Post Number: 1
|Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:38 pm: ||
Long story short! We got a new mare about 3 months ago, and she's older, 25. She has had foals before. I have read all the discussions about witch's milk/fluid being in some older mares all the time. A few yrs ago, being new to foaling, we had a mare foal and she didn't look pregant. This current mare is starting a small bag, and so we have been testing it. The "fluid" is extremely sticky and honey colored, she is also producing a little "white" milk that mixes with it. We tested this and is very high in calcium and the ph is 7 or below. In contrast, our other two mares (not preg but foaled before)who we also tested, had watery, skim milk type stuff in udder, and they were way basic...so- is she pregnant or is it hormones. She has a weird shape she has had since she came, kind of football shaped, and was low in weight, but her stomach seems to be about the same. She has been wormed. Does colostrum only come in if they are pregnant?Is it only amber and sticky? Or otherwise if it is diet induced only white milky? thanks for any comments...
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Post Number: 3526
|Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 03:33 pm: ||
Hi Julie, do you have any pics of the mare you can post? Typically, in prego mares, when the milk calcium tests over 300, and the ph falls below 7, you'll have a foal in 24 hrs....I'd assume if you don't have one very soon, that she's not prego.
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 02:26 am: ||
It seems I am not alone in the "Is she pregnant or no?" debate! We bought a mini mare on june 19, who appeared to be very pregnant- did some background on her, and she was with a stud from early July to October of last year. The previous year she was with another stallion, but never foaled. She had her first (and only) foal at least 3 years ago. To me she LOOKS pregnant, full in the flanks, wide, large milk vein, bit of a bag, relaxed vulva, bit of a V belly and she IS producing some fluid from her teats. (Will she do this after only one foal so long ago, and still not be pregnant?)Not knowing a due date, and the information I'm gleaning on mini mares, they can trick you and mess with you like no other. I have asked our vet to palpate, or ultrasound, and she won't on a mini.(she was out the other day for a cow, looked her over, did some feeling around, and said her best guess is pregnant, but "I'm no horse vet" so not to go by that.) (Thanks!) Phoned around, none of our other area vets want to either. She has been beside our stallion since she came home, and now is in with him, and HATES him.She has not shown signs of heat yet, even to her regular gelding pal. The kicker is, the first stallion she was with at the breeders, apparently beat her up and she now hates other horses. The only one we've seen her "hate" is the stallion Thoughts?Suggestions? I have been checking her nightly, (just got in from my last check) and I think I'm seeing changes, but...............I have many years of experience with foaling regular mares, but we knew dates and had ultrasounds, and being new to minis, and just NOW learning of all the foaling issues they can have, I'm getting a bit jumpy! I also have experience palpating the mares- should I do it myself, or does this stress them like crazy as I've been told? All the breeders in our province that I've talked to tell me that they have a wait and see policy. Help!