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Should I have any hope...?

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Cindy
Neonate
Username: Cweber

Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare is ~195 days "supposedly" in foal. She was last checked at 55 days in foal and everything looked good. However, she wasn't looking overly pregnant (granted she is still early in her pregnancy) but decided to have an palpation or ultrasound done. This mare does have a Grade IIB biopsy so I do know the odds of carrying to term are not the best.
Vet palpated and did an ultrasound today. She feels she is not in foal but it was really hard for her to be 100% concrete about her decision. She said there was a lot of fluid in there but felt it was her bladder since there were some "curly Q's" in the fluid she said was usually indictive of mucous which is seen in the urine. She could not find the umbilical cord but did at the end see one empty horn of the uterus. She said even if she was pregnant in the other they are usually both stretched??? She could also not get a good feel of the complete uterus she said due to her full bladder. Overall she does not feel she is in foal. We saw the left overy and there were a few small follicles but had a hard time seeing the right overy and not sure if she ever did (though she commented the ligaments felt stretched there??).
We are going to recheck her in a few weeks just to be hopefully 100% certain but I am pretty bummed. I guess is there any hope or would you say from that info it doesn't look good?
 

Samantha
Breeding Stock
Username: Dressage_diva333

Post Number: 919
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do an esterone sulfate test. 195 days is a very hard time to palpate due to the foal being dropped over the pelvic brim. The blood test is much more accurate.
 

Cindy
Nursing Foal
Username: Cweber

Post Number: 11
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did a blood test last year with this mare and it came back positive when she was not actually pregnant. She would have been about 7-8 months along at the time. We ultrasounded her a week later and confirmed she was not in foal and since she was caslicks almost right up I know if she had lost it it had been really early in the pregnancy. Kind of lost faith in them now though I know they are usually really accurate. We are going to reultrasound/palpate in a few weeks and if it is still not difintive I will look into the blood test. Thanks!
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 2786
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would not lose hope! If your vet cannot view BOTH horns of the uterus, they can't know for sure. It's a hard time to palpate/ultrasound for sure. You could always do a wee foal test as well!
 

Ann
Breeding Stock
Username: Northernperch

Post Number: 176
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would do the blood test...progesterone and estrogen if you are not sure how far along she is. I put more stock in those tests then a vet's arm. Nothing against vets but to me, an arm in the rectum can be subjective, a blood test, not so much. Good luck!



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