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Is it possible?

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jamie neel
Neonate
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it possible that a mare be completely shut down reproductivly for the season at the begining of july? i got a new mare at the begining of last month and she hasnt shown heat the whole time, had a vet palpate her today and her ovaries are completely inactive. so is it possible that she will only cycle early in the season? or is it more likely that she has something reproductivly wrong with her? he said she had good tone, just no activity on her ovaries at all. small and dormant.
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 2566
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess anything is possible....is it then also possible that your vet misdiagnosed your mare and she's already bred? Just something to think about.....you might consider a second opinion from an equine reproduction specialist...
 

jamie neel
Neonate
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

unfortunetly, no it isnt possible she is bred. i thought when i got her she looked that way, but she would be at least three months pregnant and there is no way he would have missed that, he is very good. i would rather she be pregnant, cause then i would at least know there isnt anything wrong with her....:-(
thanks,
jamie
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 2568
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

um, MANY vets miss pregnancy by palpation after 3 months! This is because the fetus drops below the pelvic brim and is not palpable......can you get your vet to ultrasound her? That's what I would do!
 

jamie neel
Neonate
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 9
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hhhmmm. never thought of that. about how long after it drops does it become easier to feel the foal by palpation? i have to get her teeth done next month, so maybe i will have him ultrasound her then...
thanks,
jamie
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 2572
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Around 7 months or so! If you want to know now, I'd have her ultrasounded. I've had and known of many pregnancies missed at this stage of pregnancy.
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1825
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jamie, Have him ultra sound or palpate her BEFORE the teeth are floated. I know a lot of equine dentists and Vets wait till after the mare foals to float the teeth, just to be safe.
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 2573
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yup
takes much less sedation to do an US...and the sedation used to float isn't as safe during pregnancy
 

jamie neel
Neonate
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmmm. well the vet that i uses would probably just dorm her up. pretty much none of the other drugs that have been tried on her work like she has a tolerance to them or something. also it isnt so stressfull cause he just hand floats too, he doesnt use the big drill thing like most other vets, and even with difficult patients he just takes his time and tries not to sedate them at all. i know some vets that wont even examine a horse without drugs, thank god he isnt like that, but i will ask him for sure just to be safe.
thanks guys for all your help,
jamie
 

Samantha
Breeding Stock
Username: Dressage_diva333

Post Number: 826
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The other option is that the mare was pregnant, and slipped the foal after the endometrial cups had already formed. Meaning that she wouldn't come into heat for another 120 days or so.

Actually, I just had one of my mares checked at about 60 days in foal. Vet couldn't *feel* anything, but we saw the heartbeat on the ultrasound so we knew she was still in foal.

The mare really needs to be sedated if you don't have a set of stocks to put her in.... it's much too dangerous for a vet to palpate an unsedated mare just standing there. Especially a mare that isn't a seasoned broodmare and doesn't know what's happening.
 

jamie neel
Nursing Foal
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she was just palpated day before yesterday just standing in her pen with me holding the halter. she has had foals before and it doesnt really bother her. that was when he told me she wasnt cycling and her ovaries are dormant. when he comes out next month for the fall clininc i will ask him about all the things you guys have suggested and i will ask if it is okay for her teeth to be done..
jamie



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