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Bred one day apart, but on rectal exam one is farther along than the other?

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Cjskip
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Post Number: 924
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both my mares had ultra-sounds at 14 days gestation. One had a twin pinched off. They should now be 63 and 64 days gestation, respectively with one last bred on April 19 and one on April 18.

Another vet's evaluation, per rectal check yesterday, was that one is further along than the other. So I am confused.

Unfortunately, the vet does not know the history and I didn't know he was going to be there yesterday, so wasn't there to give it to him, so he had little to go on.

He said that one of the mare's fetus, is, "up farther," than the other mare's, to the point that he could, "not tell if there was a twin." As I said, neither has a twin, I'm just describing what he said he felt, as relaid by someone who was there.

Do I need to be concerned about the health of either fetus? I'm waiting to ask him any questions, until I see if this post generates any that I need to ask him, so I can do it all at once. I don't want to bug him to death.
 

Jos
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Palpation really doesn't tell much at that stage. Ultrasound will give you a comparative measure - if you can still reach the fetus (it's typically about to fall over the pelvic brim and out of reach anytime now).
 

Cjskip
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Post Number: 928
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank-you Jos. I might just wait until they are further along, to re-check, unless there is some reason I ought to have it done now? I do know there are no twins. The mare that was not pinched off, had two or three ultra-sounds up until she was 24 days, so I am confident neither is in foal with twins.

The breeding dates should certainly be accurate, since they were hand bred. That is what is so confusing.

I was worried that one may be dead and so didn't develop and that might be why he felt the difference? If you think there is a medical reason to warrant it, I'll get it done right away.

I am going to try and talk to the vet too, tomorrow. He might have been under the false belief that they were further along than they were.

I plan to read some of the articles on this board during this week sometime. I've read some of them before, but as I learn more, they make more sense to me.

Thanks again.
 

Cjskip
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Post Number: 931
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeeezzz, I think I just realized what you were saying, Jos. You were simply saying that a vet can't really feel the position of the fetus at that age, right? I was trying to think in complicating terms, instead of keeping it simple!



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