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New mare,23 years old, Pregnant?!?!

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Mary Greer
Breeding Stock
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 113
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just went and picked up 2 horses one being a 2 year old POA/quarter horse stud and the other is a 23-24 year old appendix quarter mare. The little 2 y/o is the only stud that has been with her for 2 years, But the trick is that she was taken 2X about 6 years ago to a stud and never took, Now when I got them home I noticed the vien on her belly that swells while a mare is pregnant (Feeder vien) is very noticable. Due to her old age she is "ribby" but otherwise is healthy and sound and also has a good size belly on her. I will take pics tomorrow so she will have time to settle in but any advice would be great! I will be seeing about a vet appointment soon to get her checked. The only reason either horse was sold was due to lack of grass and hay being so expensive. By the way... How hard will it be on this pretty girl if she is in foal? I will have her up to weight by the time she foals.
 

Mary Greer
Breeding Stock
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 115
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are "Annie's" pics, she wouldnt be very far along but has anyone else had good experiances with determining pregnancy from the "Feeder" or "Baby" veins on the mares belly to the udder? This mare has not had a foal in years... tell me what you think...

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/cowgirlup07/Annie%20and%20Stoney/Annie2.j pg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/cowgirlup07/Annie%20and%20Stoney/Annie.jp g
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/cowgirlup07/Annie%20and%20Stoney/Anniefee dervien.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/cowgirlup07/Annie%20and%20Stoney/AnnieUdd er.jpg
 

Jane Whritenour
Nursing Foal
Username: Quarterhorsetimestwo

Post Number: 12
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm new to this- but wouldn't it be easier to have a vet check her-(although right now i have my doubts with vets) I have never heard of feeder veins- Our mare has the same veins and I don't know if she is preg. either( long story)
I'm just waiting - too see if she goes back into heat. Ours was bred in the begginning of June
 

Bonny
Breeding Stock
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 384
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello, those veins are not the milk veins, they are just veins on the mares tummy. These are milk veins...They are under the mare and run forward from the edge of the udder.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/7-21-08060.jpg

I dont see her as pregnant, how far along would she be? If she is at least 60 days a vet would be able to palpate quite easily.
Keep us posted!
 

Jane Whritenour
Nursing Foal
Username: Quarterhorsetimestwo

Post Number: 13
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Bonny,

Would the base of the teats begin to get "puffy" if the mare were expecting. Penny's
have begun to be a little - they werent that way before. And as far as the vet palpating her He said you couldn't at 60 days.- His Ultra Sound thoughts were it wasn't a normal 60 pregnancy - looked to him like re-absorbtion. But Jos says they don't actually re-absorb
But I can tell you for sure she is not the same horse since we bred her. She has NEVER come to me for affection of any sort- Always get the backend. The last few weeks and even today she comes to me and closes her eyes with her head at my chest I guess time will tell.
Oh by the way , how far along is the mare in the picture?
 

Bonny
Breeding Stock
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 385
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok My mare is much more affectionate when preg. And in the pic I believe she was about 5-6 months preg. She has foaled before. Some mares have that puffiness if not preg.
You can palpate at 60 days, if you wait to long the fetus can fall over the pelvic brim and be out of reach.
How far along is your mare? When was her last US? I would suggest a second US to see whats going on.

I will post different stages of my mares udder and milk vein development, although all mares are different. But I knew my girl was even before I had the palpation because of her behavior and her lack of cycle. But if she aborted after the cl was formed her body would still act preg for a while. I think about 120 days but dont quote me.
April 14th about 60 days
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/4-14-08029-1.jpg
May 12th at about 90 days preg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/5-12-08011.jpg
July 21 at about 160 days
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/7-21-08060.jpg
 

Mary Greer
Breeding Stock
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 116
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The pic of her udder doesnt show much but she is looking like the mare in the picture(not as swollen) she wouldnt be very far along maybe 30 days if that. With my gray mare her veins on her belly swell more while she is pregnant than when she isnt. I didnt know if it was just my gray or all mares that did this. but Annie is swelling more by her udder I am waiting to get the money to take her to the vet as my colt got hurt and I spent what I had to get him stitched up..Oh another thing my gray shows no signs of being pregnant until the bitter end(even come in heat)She did it last year and is doing the same thing this year.. She has been confirmed pregnant visually with the ultra sound,Is this normal is pregnant mares?



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