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Blood test , wrong?

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Bonny
Yearling
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am going to cover the whole story in hope of an answer. I am at a loss with this mare.
4 years old
34 inches at wither
52 inch belly
I bought the mare Dec 28 07
She was in a pasture with a stallion. She was very thin. I got her home wormed her and fed her. She has continued to grow in the belly since. Her belly was 43 when I got her it is 52 now, thats in 3 1/2 months. I tested with the wee foal urine in Jan, neg result tested again in Feb and got a positive. March had an US external done and no foal to be found, so did blood work estradiol, negative, well a 352.0 on a 5000 scale. Is Estradiol Estrogen sulfate?
My mare was exposed to a stallion in Feb as we assumed not pregnant before the second wee foal. There is a possibility she bred then. That would make her almost 60 days.
Please look at the pictures and tell me what you think. I am so confused!
This was early January with a thick fur coat:
side
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/rside-1-1-08.jpg
looking down
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/newb053.jpg
side and shaved Feb:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/3-20-08006.jpg
looking down:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/3-20-08007.jpg
Side and shaved yesterday
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/4-8-08033.jpg
looking down
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/4-8-08042.jpg
 

Bonny
Yearling
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 56
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And sorry more from today And I am wondering why she has been standing like this off and on lately?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/4-9-08028.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/4-9-08027.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/4793ShyAnne/4-9-08029.jpg
 

Bonny
Yearling
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 57
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone have any thoughts at all?
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 1131
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How soon after the exposure to the stallion in February did you have the ultrasound? If it was over 14 days something should of been seen. If it was less than 14 days ultrasound might of missed it.
 

Emily West, Gracie Due 04/11/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 525
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bonny, She doesn't look very big to me. Plus if she was skinny and you are putting weight back on that could very well account for her belly growing 9 inches. Not being an expert I really couldn't say one way or the other for sure.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
 

Emily West, Gracie Due 04/11/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 526
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, yes. I should say that it doesn't mean she might not have been bred in Febuary. So she just might not be all that far along. Good luck and keep us updated. :-)
 

Dorthy Brown
Breeding Stock
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 268
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My vet missed a pregnancy on ultrasound 18 days post cover(last cover) insisted she was n't bred even though she did not come back into heat--said i must've missed the heat even though she went right back to the studs after leaving the vet--never came into heat. stud owner brought her in to their vet about 2 weeks later and seh was confirmed 35 days bred
 

Bonny
Yearling
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 58
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats the thing we dont know if she was bred by the stallion she was kept with before we bought her in December. We didnt think she was preg so we bred her in feb. She could be preg from either one.
The reason we tested in Jan was to check for preg before we bred her. It was neg so we did. Then after stallion left we realized she looked big and we tested and the wee foal said positive. In March my vet came out to do an abdominal US on her and we didnt see a foal( it was his first time Us on a mini) and doing it trans abdominal he wasnt surprised. But I asked for a blood test to check and it came up 352 on a 5000 scale indicative to non preg status. But I also read that minis can have lower levels.
Then later I did a pregnamare and it came out with 2 dots but one was faint. So I was wondering if the test could be wrong She is only gaining in her belly. I just dont know what to think.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 1135
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would redo the Wee Foal test and maybe the blood test again. It doesn't sound like she got pregnant back in December, if she's pregnant I would say she took in February. Keep us posted!
 

Gina McMahon
Weanling
Username: Moonlitpaints

Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My vet missed a pregnancy on my Quarter horse mare at 35 days, so it does happen.
 

Bonny
Yearling
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sometimes it seems determining the pregnancy status of these mares is the hardest part!



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