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Maiden bagging early - to worry or not?

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Jennifer Webber
Neonate
Username: Jennywho

Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My maiden mare is at day 277. She started bagging up about a week ago. She's maybe a 1/4 of the way bagged. Do I worry? She seems fine - No temp, no discharge, urine is normal color, attitude and appetite is normal.

My vet is a good gp, but not a repro specialist and unfortunately the closest repro vets are over an hour away. I will talk to him tomorrow, but of course I am worrying NOW.

Do I start her on antibiotics and/or regumate as a precaution or do I just keep an eye on her and hope for the best?

I had a horrible foaling season last year and I think it's got me more on edge than normal. Thanks in advance.
 

charlene birdsall, Baby due 4/2/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Charlie67

Post Number: 303
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer, what do you consider bagging up? Do you have any recent pics of her udder? This is my mare's udder at 258 days and everyone said she looks fine(she is a maiden also)[IMG]http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa97/mollytomale-photos/P1010045.jpg[/IMG] I wouldn't start her on anything until you talk to your vet. What happened last year that has got you so worried? When is your mare due?
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 989
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer~sorry to hear you had a bad year last year. Makes for an anxious year this year I am sure! My mare starts to bag up about 6 weeks before she foals. So I actually use that as a indicator. If possible post pictures of her udder. I am glad you have a call into your vet...It sounds like she is just starting to shape up. Keep us posted and I will keep my fingers and toes crossed!
 

judy cervantes
Yearling
Username: Judy1

Post Number: 75
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/judycervantes/003.jpg
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/judycervantes/011.jpg
THIS FIRST PICTURE OF HER UDDER IS FROM TODAY,THE 2ND ONE IS FROM 6 DAYS AGO.WHAT DO YOU THINK???
 

Jennifer Webber
Neonate
Username: Jennywho

Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone, I brought the camera out, but the darn batteries were dead so I'll try again tomorrow. We're one day closer to 300 anyways.

My vet said to just watch her, if she's going to abort she's going to abort. Unless of course I want to take her to WSU for diagnostics, but that's a 3 hour drive in the snow that I'm not quite ready to make.

Last year I had four mares in foal, two maidens. The first maiden foaled on day 290, baby lived only a few hours. Second maiden started bagging up about 7 weeks out, but went to 337. I was stupefied as to how such a teeny tiny foal came out of such a hugly pregnant mare until baby #2 showed up. We had the mare checked at 14, 30 and 45 days and the twins were missed all three times. Long story short, we lost both fillies by the time they were two weeks old. Of my two seasoned mares one had a filly with an umbilical abscess that required surgery and 2 months at WSU (she made it!) and the other had a colt that got really sick at about 2 weeks old but made it.

I just want three healthy babies this year.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 578
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer, you've already used up all your bad luck! You have to have a good foaling season this year! :-)
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 758
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer healthy foaling prayers being sent your way.
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 998
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer~Healthy foaling vibes!! This year will be a better year for you. So you have 3 mares in foal right now? When are they due?
 

Jane
Breeding Stock
Username: Dizzykizzy

Post Number: 116
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aww Jennifer, I really feel for you. We lost undiagnosed twins last year too then the mare slipped her next pregnancy...she scanned in foal again late August and I haven't had her scanned since but fear she lost that one too.
Our other broody tore her deep flexor tendon at around 8 months and lost her foal then we lost her too.
My arab mare had an early foal (325 days, so not too early) but he had a really bad tummy for a few weeks and we feared we would lose him as well.

So I know how you feel to an extent though I am giving up on breeding!
 

Marilyn Lemke - Dora due 7/31/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 793
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer and Jane, what hard times you've had. I feel so badly for you, but that's all in the past. And things will be much better this time around.

I've had some bad luck also in the past, so I've smudged my barn and house. I know you'll all think I'm crazy, but I didn't want to take any chances. So far so good! Hey, I even smudged my horses. They didn't mind a bit. I was rather surprised. I think they're used to me doing weird things around them like hanging nails over them. I think they think, "as long as she keeps bringing me food, that's all I care about. Let her have her wierd idiosyncrasies". LOL!

Anyway, I pray that all of us will have a fantastic foaling and pregnancy year.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 583
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marilyn, what's smudging? I need every bit of good luck I can take, I don't think your crazy at all!
 

Marilyn Lemke - Dora due 7/31/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 794
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Tracy, I hope I'm not crazy. I looked it up on the internet, I hope this helps. It's kinda hard to explain and it's easier to let you read the proper way of smudging.

http://www.wehug.com/smudge-sage-ceremony.html

Let me know what you think, if you would.
Thanks, Marilyn
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 586
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marilyn, I like it, I want to do it :-)
Where do you get the sage to burn?
 

Marilyn Lemke - Dora due 7/31/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 795
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got it in Arizona. I'm not sure otherwise. Let me know where you get it. I'll look tonight on the internet and see if I can find it.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 772
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all my mother does this ALL the time. she goes and collects it from the field she lives in eastern mt. Any plains state has it growing rampid. you can also grow it in a herb garden, or go to the grocer and buy sage from the seasoning isle.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 587
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys, I'll check into it too :-)



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