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Another prego mare?

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corina gabel
Neonate
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 4
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have this mare that was bread to my stallion in june. Doent know if she had a foal but deffinatly been bred before. We have had her sence she was 4, now 7. She is mustang cross. With the sterotypical mustang attitude. Wild and teritorial, only likes women, no men.


she didnt come into heat in july. We checked every day from 14 days after breeding date untill aug. 5th. She came back in then.bred 4 times in 2 days, WE bred her again to him. Then checked every other day f/14days to mid nov.She is starting to swell. ON dec. 11 we took her to THE VET. (male mind you). She previously would not enter the stocks ( last year stitches removed tied to the trailer, by vet assistint who was female), anyway walked right in stood nicly for him didnt even glare when he shoved that thing up there :P.

he looked and looked all of 5 mins. Confirmed some fluid, but wouldnt linger on it. Said her uteris is slightly swolen, and overies arent really big but not really shrunken eather. could not find a fetis. No sound so no heart beat...

HES SAYES NO WAY.

her belly seems hard, unlike our fat mare how kind of feels like JELLO. She not really one to over eat and get fat, But seems to be growing.

I thought i seen her belly shifting the other night while she was eating, like our mare that foaled in april.

earlyest anyone has seen this shifting or moving?
what kind of growth rates are people seeing?
I KNOW EVEN ONE IS DIFFENT BUT JUST IN GENERAL.


i have heard in rare cases that a mare fenced next to or with a stallion can show signs of "fake" heat (the squating) due to hormonal changes in the 2 or 3 month and some stand for a stallion but for only a day or so. Has anyone seen this or even heard of this?
Bug seemed less willing the 2nd time and only showed heat for 2 days, instead of her normal 6 or 7 day "b-fit"}
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 550
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have seen several mares stand for and tease a stallion while preg. At about 6 months is when my shetland decided to look preg. She went from nothing to looking like she'd explode if you touched her. In my big horses it seemed that 5-7 months is when you could look and see that they were prego as well
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 491
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that my mares show pregnancy around 6 months but I usually don't see movement until around 8 months. Usually vets are right but some are definitely wrong so if you really feel she may be pregnant I would get a second opinion. Keep us posted :-)
 

Beth
Nursing Foal
Username: Beth13

Post Number: 18
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some mares that are around stallions and who really want a foal can carry a phantom foal. Without a vet, it can be really difficult if not impossible to tell between a real foal and a phantom. The mares go through all the usual signs, swelling, loose muscles etc. Some can even go through false labour! Silly mares. The last time your vet checked her was on the 11 Dec 07? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I would wait about a month or so and then get her scanned again.
 

corina gabel
Nursing Foal
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 11
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes she was checked the 11th. I have to take her about 60 miles to another vet. I am worried that she isnt then im out all this but im worried that she is. The ultrasound machine didnt even have sound.
I found out to day that he checked a mare last winter at 10 month and declared her open. The people rode her hard the next week, she foaled and died. there have been a few people who have said hes a bad vet but i didnt believe them.

She was around him for about 4 months. Shes kinda mean and wouldnt even look at him with out doing a mean little winny and dance- unless she was ready. So her standing for him has me thinking that she didnt take but her sizes makes me think that she did?
Does that admin have any thing to say about standing for stallion after allready breed?

ohh we have about 2 1/2 foot to 3 foot of snow so we are regulateing her diet and she seem to sill be growing.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 532
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only way you're going to know for sure is to have a different vet come out and check her. Pregnant mares can and do stand to be bred. Oh, just so you know (I'm not saying the vet wasn't bad) most ultrasounds do not have sound. :-) Only very expensive ones in the hospital usually do so I don't think that is anything to worry about :-) Keep us posted on what you find out.
 

corina gabel
Nursing Foal
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 15
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks. Its just so hard out here where you dont have options.
i am hoping to get some pics to have every one look at her belly
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 538
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, try to take some pics. Obviously we can't tell you for sure but it's always nice to get other opinions :-)
 

corina gabel
Nursing Foal
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 19
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

everyones horses look so good this time of year... well we have fuzzy scruffy horses in 3 foot of snow
This is jitter bug

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http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/newyearsbaby05/?action=view&current=DCA M0052.jpg

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