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How does gastric movement differ from foal movement?

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Christy Rawls
Neonate
Username: Christy

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am one of those who just can't accept the fact that my mare is not pregnant, I guess. U/s at 16 and 26 days by two different vets said no.

Okay, I said.

When she would have been about 4 1/2 months along, I really began to suspect that she may be b/c the shape of her abdomen had changed. She is a narrow, small trak/arab. There was a certain roundness where there wasn't before, so I called the repro vet who had inseminated her. He palpated her at two days shy of 5 months and said she definitely wasn't.

I was like, okayy....

And I really let go of the idea. But then, two weeks ago, I poured her feed and turned around to look at her, and was like, gosh, her belly looks big. And then, i saw a movement in her lower abdomen. Of course, I was all of a sudden excited at the possibility that she may be after all, so I got closer, and I definitely saw her belly move right in front of her udder.

I am seeing movement pretty much only when she eats. It occurs right in front of her udder, and it's very quick--but you can see the belly move down in that area when it happens. The other movement I see is kind of a "whole belly" move, and I tell myself that with the size of the foal at this time (if there was one in there), if it was moving in there, it could make her belly "jump," as the small size of the foal wouldn't allow it to make an obvious "kick."

Now, I know I very much want her to be pregnant, but I also think these movements are suspicious.

Just how forceful are normal gastic movements?
Where are they normally seen?

Am I just losing my mind?

She would have been six months along Nov. 6.

As it is, I am spending lots of time watching her belly, and I always see something, and some days it's more active than others.

I am not going to bring her back to the vet b/c they are only going to call me nuts, but my gut has never really believed that she wasn't. That could be due to the fact that my (a different one from my repro) vet said after u/s and palpation that an aged mare we bought at auction that was supposedly bred wasn't pregnant. Turns out she was, but we didn't know until two months before she foaled. She would have been five months along when we palpated her.

I guess I just want them to be wrong!
 

Christy Rawls
Neonate
Username: Christy

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JOS, please! I have been waiting forever (it seems ) for your response. I went ahead and posted at UDBB, and about 1/2 think it's a foal, and the others are skeptical.
 

Jos
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Post Number: 1066
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The two are often indistinguishable. That's why we have ultrasound and blood tests...

Have an estrone sulfate (or total estrogen) blood assay performed on your mare and then you'll have your answer.

And remember - as long as you pay your bill, your vet won't mind thinking you're nuts... :-)



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