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Mare doesn't get in foal

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Dee
Yearling
Username: Dee

Post Number: 71
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a mare that is 10 years old and is still maiden. For the past 4 years I have tried and tried and tried again to get her in foal. Every time I think she is she turns out not. I took her to my vet and he checked her, so I know she is 100% breeding sound. I tried this year to and still no hope. I don't want to just give up on her becuase she has an excellent pedigree and she is so beautiful. I would really like just one foal from her. But I can't get her in foal and I am getting so tried of knowing that she is never in foal.
If anyone can give me advice I would listen and take the ideas.
Please HELP!
 

Jennifer D
Nursing Foal
Username: Jennifer

Post Number: 17
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dee, Need some info. What have you tried so far? I have a mare that is 13 this year and been bred for 2 years and so far not able to keep her conceptus. Concieved twice and lost them twice, so I have tried the oxytocine protocal that Jos suggests with more difficult older mares. Have you tried this? Is your vet following your mares? Do you breed her before she ovulates? etc...
 

cathy Cook
Weanling
Username: Razmacat

Post Number: 39
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly, what have you done? Have you cultured her? Done blood tests? Does she not have a progesterone producing ability where drugs may help? We need more info as to the extent you have gone to.
 

Dee
Yearling
Username: Dee

Post Number: 72
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I have cultured her and I have flushed her. The vet said that there is nothing wrong with her but, I know there has to be becuase the foal that she was supposed to have this year never came. She was pregent in the being and somewhere in the middle of the 11 months she lost the foal. I really haven't been able to get her in ovulation or before becuase she is silent when she's in heat. I don't have a stallion around so, I can't check her regularly. That's why I haven't tried the drugs and I am not sure what the blood tests are for. The vet said the drugs and tests weren't needed and that she is fine.
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 902
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, the confidence of your vet is pleasing, but perhaps a little puzzling seeing as the mare is not pregnant and you are having a hard time breeding her.

You might like to try for a second opinion from a veterinarian that specialises in equine reproduction...
 

Dee
Yearling
Username: Dee

Post Number: 73
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay I will try that. Is there anything else I should do or maybe try?
 

Jennifer D
Nursing Foal
Username: Jennifer

Post Number: 20
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dee,

Don't lose hope before switching to a repro specialist. My tricky mare was bred June 30th, held a 40mm folicle for 3 days causing me to ship three times in a week. I didn't have much hope this time either, BUT...she suprised me at the 17day post breeding she has a 17mm conceptus (last ones were really small for the time she was being u/s) and the decision to put her on Rugumate 3.5 days post ovulation was made. We are hoping this may help her. So if you have the resources... keep trying. I was done for the year and I still have a shot at 2007 foal!
 

Dee
Yearling
Username: Dee

Post Number: 74
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jennifer!
Sometimes I feel like giving up. Then I think of it and say to myself that it would only be the easy way out. If there is something wrong I would never know so I keep up the fight. Maybe some day she will get in foal and until then I am still going to love her so it is okay that she don't get in foal.
It would be nice if she did!
 

Jennifer
Weanling
Username: Jennifer_d

Post Number: 38
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The heartache is worth the reward! I am keeping my fingers crossed as I am not out of the woods by any means. Keep trying if you can afford to!
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 147
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dee,

I am in the same boat you are. Very frustrating I know. My mare delivered a full term foal in this past April that died during delivery due to Placenta detaching too early. We have tried twice AI to get her pregnant. Everything, her prebreeding workup, cytology, looked great. We tracked her with US and inseminated right at ovulation. The second time we even douched her with an antibiotic followed by shots to make sure the uterus was perfect. Nothing. So I am going to try one more time. We moved her from her stall all by herself to one in between two geldings. One that is proud cut and studdy. So that hopefully will set the mood. We are going to short cycle her and continue to moniter her daily with US and do the fertility dance and hope the third time is the charm. Good Luck to you and I will keep looking for good news from you. Jan
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 930
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you tried the oxytocin protocol? It's cheap, easy and truly works wonders with some mares!
 

Dee
Yearling
Username: Dee

Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not yet but, I will try it.
 

Holly Mullenix
Neonate
Username: Rosie1

Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasted 2 years prior to seeing a repro specialist. He found some micro-size debris in my mare's uterus that was attached to the uterin wall. He cleaned her out and she was pregnant the next spring. She did't catch right away--it took about 6 months for her system to settle down. Prior to the repro specialist--she has very irregular cycles--this took some time after the treatment to settle---but they eventually did and then she conceived. These guys are expensive--but well worth it in the long run.
 

Sharon Malmberg
Breeding Stock
Username: Ryu2832

Post Number: 203
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with the advice above. I went through two vets before finding a third that knew what she was talking about, then we spent a year cleaning up her uterus and getting it ready for this year.

Find a specialist, then start the clock.



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