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Doubtful, but.....

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Sarah Glasgow
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Username: Ffagirl1214

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been trying to breed my mare for months, but have finally given up until next year. Just wanting to know something out of curiosity though...

My mare WOULD NOT get pregnant, even though everything looked right. Finally discovered she was dirty. A few days before the culture came back the stud bred her again, and the vet gave her a shot "just in case" the culture came back dirty. He did a uterine flush (3 liters), injection of oxytocin, and gentomycin sulf. (100mg). To me this sounds more like a "clean out" instead, especially with the uterine flush. There's no way a pregnancy could survive after all this, is there?

Just curious, because she stopped cycling after that cycle. (I realize it could be due to the heat or any number of other factors though)
 

Jos
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Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How long after the breeding was the lavage?

I am correct in that he injected Gentamycin rather than using it intra-uterine? (An injection incidentally would be pretty useless at the uterine tissue level).

What did the pregnancy check show - you did have her checked didn't you? And when?

If the answer to the first was 3 hours or greater, and the second was "yes", then there is a possibility that the mare is pregnant.

BTW, when you say she was "dirty", what did the cytology smear show? You did get a cytology smear done in addition to the culture didn't you? (As the culture would be useless by itself, in fact worse than useless as it might show a false positive, which would mean that the treatments were unnecessary). Follow the link for more details on the importance of uterine cytology.
 

Sarah Glasgow
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Username: Ffagirl1214

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Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe it was at least a day or two. They did a pregnancy check, the stud bred her the day or two after, then the next day is when they did the culture. I assume it was an injection....just going by the detailed bill as I was not there. Not sure about the culture specifically, just that they told the breeder she was really "dirty". Sadly they did not do a cytology smear, though I agree they should have. I guess it was more so to figure out why she wasn't taking, to know for next year.

So I guess if she ends up not in foal this season, we'll try again next year, and will definitely do the smear to make sure and go from there.
 

Sarah Glasgow
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Username: Ffagirl1214

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Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2011 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And I know it's probably just wishful thinking, especially since mares don't usually show much of a belly until the last few months in pregnancy, but my mare has been getting a somewhat larger belly. She looked great when she went to the breeders, but lost a lot of weight when she was there. Since then I've given her a little extra food, but she's not gaining it on her ribs, hips, or even withers, just her belly.



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