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Could vet miss foal at 3 1/2 months?

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sara Zwerk
Neonate
Username: Sznanners

Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought a 13 year old mare in May. I was told when I bought her she was in fact bred. I was told they had her checked. I had the vet out this week to check her and to give her the necessary vaccinations and he palpated her and said she was in foal and wanted to do an ultrasound to determine a due date,as he wasn't sure if she felt quite as big as she should have. Before he palpated her he sedated her as he said he was not comfortable checking her without doing that. During the ultrasound she was moving a lot and was very unsteady on her feet and would lean from one side to the other. He scanned her for maybe 1 minute and then He said 'nope, I don't see a baby, Not bred?" . I was shocked. Not understanding how he could go from bred to not bred in 3-5 minutes time? Could it be possible he missed a foal at 3-4 months gestation? I don't want to take the chance of missing the 5,7,9 month vaccinations. I went directly to the vet the next morning and asked to speak with the other vet there and they paged him and he called back a couple of hours later saying her file said not bred and he will not second guess his partner? Not sure what to do next after paying a lot of money for nothing so far.
 

Veronique Dumas
Weanling
Username: Formosus

Post Number: 24
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would venture that the the foal has just past beyond the pelvic brim and the vet cannot reach it.
I would treat her as is she was pregnant in term of vaccination and have her check again at arround the 5 or 6 month mark. By then the foal will be easily reachable.
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2976
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll second Veronique's observation and suggestion.

And look on the bright side - at least now when the mare produces a foal next year you can ask BOTH of the partners in the vet practice for a rebate of the "not in foal" ultrasound charge! :-)
 

sara Zwerk
Neonate
Username: Sznanners

Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks,
I really appreciate you thoughts..I will definitely check her again with a new vet in a couple of months.
 

hedgerow farm
Yearling
Username: Lotsofponies

Post Number: 63
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I would try the ELISA Blood Test for Equine Pregnancy. Here is a link to an article about it.
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=14131
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2979
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is also the "Wee Foal" urine test, which may be more practical, as with the ELISA test centrifuged blood and shipping of a serum-only sample is preferred to reduce possibility of inaccuracies created by hemolysis.
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 2180
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeppers, do the wee foal:-) I have always been told the US is only as good as the Vet doing it. Vets are human and can make mistakes. So I second the wee foal, if it comes out positive Have the vet back out to give the 5 month shot and recheck her lol.
 

sara Zwerk
Neonate
Username: Sznanners

Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone, I will order a wee foal. I looked them up and will order one. I am going to have to wait a few more weeks as I am not quite sure on her possible date :-) Now that gives me some time to teach her to pee in a cup :-)
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 3542
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ROFL....good luck with THAT sara!!
 

sara Zwerk
Neonate
Username: Sznanners

Post Number: 8
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a link to photo bucket album...just thought I would share the picts while I am waiting for the wee foal to come. Just wondering what you all think..Have a great day!
http://s927.photobucket.com/albums/ad119/sznanners/
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 3625
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, if he palpated and said prego, then ultrasounded and said no, I'd probably bet he can't work an ultrasound machine LOL. In these photos, she does not look bred to me, BUT....if she's only a couple months along, you wouldn't be able to tell anyway. You'll know with the wee foal! I'm anxious to hear your results.
 

sara Zwerk
Neonate
Username: Sznanners

Post Number: 9
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it has been a long few days. I got the weefoal in the mail and getting a sample was not fun I took off running to catch her, dropped my phone and broke it, went sliding in to the fence knocked down the top wire but managed to get enough to run the test.....we are having a BABY!!!
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 2249
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yay congrats!!!
 

sara Zwerk
Neonate
Username: Sznanners

Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2010 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah except for the fact that when my husband came home I went running to him and told him we were having a baby he about passed out! Once he realized it was a foal he was MUCH more excited!!



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