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What to do with mare next ?

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PMK
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Username: Pmk

Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mares first couple of season were right timing wise but we missed them due to ordering semen on time.

When taken to stud again she was pg'd a couple of times,eventually came into season and was inseminated and came home.

Due to possible double ovulation she returned for 16 day scan but was not in foal and had retained fluid (which we expected) but not infection.

It has now been 24 days since and she appears not to have come back into season,she has been teased and scanned and has an old follicle and CL present.

She has not been pg'd this time due to possible ovulation with the old follicle.

Don't really know what to do now as she was expected to be back in season before now.

Don't know wether to wait a bit longer and see if things change,bring her home and get own vet to look at her or give up and use free return next year though may encounter same problems.

Confused.
 

Jos
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would say that the first thing you need to do is have the mare pregnancy checked again! Pregnancies do get missed...

In the event that she is confirmed not in foal, there are a couple of possibilities for the delay in return to estrus. She could have had a mid-cycle ovulation which is not unusual at this time of the year and which can interfere with the timing of the return to estrus in some instances; or she could have undergone early embryonic death, which can delay the onset of the next estrus. Either way, more evaluations are needed to determine what is happening, and then you can make an educated decision as to where to go from there!
 

PMK
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks,I'am are under the impression that she has been regularly scanned and teased whilst she has been away and can only assume that if a pregnancy was missed first time then it would have been picked up by now.

The only thing i have been told that has been noticed is an old follicle,she has not ovulated that is known of since she has been away(25 days)and i would like to think that she has been checke frequently enough for it not to have been missed.

she is to be re-checked in 2 weeks to see if she is cycling normally again but i feel this is leaving things to chance.

What other evaluations would you think could be needed to get to the possible bottom of what is going on with her.it has been mentioned that some mares can go of at this time of year only for things to return to normal given time.

thanks again
 

Jos
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Certainly a follicle that hangs on before ovulating is going to produce reduced fertility. The question appears to be whether there was anything on the other ovary.

You might want to use a blood-progesterone assay to determine if she has indeed got a functional CL present. If she genuinely does, the Prostaglandin F may be of use seeing as you appear pretty confident she is not pregnant.

Other than that, a little tincture of time seems to be the Rx...
 

PMK
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Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 04:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks again,have been reminded by a friend that there was signs of stranding on the scan so i now belive she has what i have seen called an autum follicle.

It would seem your suggestion for a little tincture of time is most likely the best way forward for now,I personally just need to develop a little more patience :-)
 

PMK
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Post Number: 4
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Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our mare did eventually come back into season and was AI'd but still no pregnancy and more fluid built up.
From the invoice we recieved she was given Reprocine,Quadrisol 100 syr (30ml),Reprocine(2),saline(2),reprocine,penstrip and giving set over a course of 3 days,but to be honest i'm not sure what any of this means.

We were told by one of the partners at the time of her scan that we would likely not get her back in foal again due to the amount of fluid she is producing and the other said to get her tucked up and thin and she should get in foal again.

Two different sets of advice from the same place leaves us completely confused as to what to do with her next year.
She has a free return to the same stallion but do we use it on her if there is a possibility she won't hold a pregnancy again.

She is 16yr old cob x and a very good doer,she has 3 foals previously and her last foal was 3 yrs ago.

(Message edited by PMK on August 30, 2010)



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