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Here we are long awaited photos of Dancer!

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Katherine DaSo
Nursing Foal
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alright guys these are photos of my Arab mare kehamas Wind Dancer. the one that is supposedly not preggo but I get movement from her (Wait vet says it was gas)Ill add photos of her vulva and udder too when she isnt being overly marish and pissy... I included the links on photo bucket... Jos my first shot doing this so I Hope I have it right

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/Dance4.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/Dance1.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/Dance5.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/Dance2.jpg
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 1496
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Katherine, she's identical to a little arabian gelding I used to own! I bought him for $200 and that was the BEST 200 I ever spent! She's a little questionable 'shape wise' isn't she? But she's a little thin too, which may make her look bigger in the belly
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Dad used to show Arabs, his one mare Kehama won horse of the year 2 years in a row...was the only mare to do it, she showed as a 2 and then 3 year old... Dancer is off the line. When I got her (I didnt buy her she was a gift) she was JET black!!! she faded to an iron gray, then to a sorrel then to a rose grey, the blaze she had on her face has begun to grey out though she still has black points on her legs...

the one Pic when you look at her the belly was on the right, about 5 min after it was on the left. then it evened out. her flanks are beginning to dip in and if you look you can see the muscles around the buttocks have begun to lose their shape (they USED to be round!) shes actually VERY big in person weight wise for her. Dancer is a very small built Arab shes 15 hands but VERY fine boned traditional Arab, I guess I need to get better photos. the baby rolls, I've felt it shift and move... she grows irritated will noip at her flanks.

the growth of belly like its doing has only been in this past month! she JUST now started gaining girth so its so damn confusing and frustrated! ANd Ive had this lil filly as a weanling, so its been a very antsy period for me..
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alright here are some photo shots of Dancer and her vulva, how shes holding her tail has been more frequent, shes been keeping it a little off to the side. But it stays relaxed in that photo she had it partially up and swishing, she doesn't seem to bothered by my taking photos of her.

on one of them it looks like a yellowish discharge Ive been checking her tail for any bloody show, but theres nothing with her udder, her teats are elongated and her udder is warm to the touch but she isn't bagging up again, she bagged once then lost it bagged then it goes down right now shes just tender....

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/DancerRear.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/DancerSide.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/Dancerbackview.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/celtictigeress/dancervulva.jpg

(Message edited by soarsamongstars on November 29, 2008)
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1036
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is so hard to tell.She looks big in the belly but as mentioned she does look a bit under weight.With what you have seen its possible.
When would she be due?
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

shes far from underweight. Shes fed well shes just very thin bodied. I have tried everything to 'build her up' but have had no luck. shes just a very small mare height and weight.

as for Due thats the issue. I would say Dec-Jan possibly. like I said I have felt the movement primarily underbelly towards the udder, you can feel the kicks. I'm positive shes pregnant or she needs an exorcist. But I am just not certain when she would be due. the breeding was a mistake on both parts, Unfortunately the man had his stud out and could not control him, and Dancer being in heat JUMPED her stall enclosure to get to the stud....To play it safe she has been kept utd on vaccinations ect. but she just recently started getting that dang belly. and as she started getting the belly her rump started sloping, its just really frustrating...
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1039
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understand completely, I am going on a whole year of is she and when is she due! Now I know she is due and soon. But the past year has been a nightmare!

Can you please take a pic of her udder? And even of the near underside of her belly.
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can in a bit, I need to go run errands and pick up feed and forumla (I have a 3 month old orphaned filly that I am bottle feeding on top of this!!!!!) I know she is, But ill snap a photo of her udder, like I said she hasnt bagged her teats are elongated, she bagged a few times and didn't bag, but I now have confirmation I have a foal on the way!!!! I just wish she wouldn't drive me up the wall... ill get the photos in a bit
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 1513
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh Katherine, it is her duty to drive you up a wall! There's no escaping that! Even the ones who go 'textbook' will drive you up a wall! B/c even when they're acting 'normal' it makes you wonder what's wrong, and why they're not showing more signs.
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lmfao gee thanks Diane!

I think my biggest issue is weight with her I can NOT get her to fill out shes extremely thin bodied and small! she gets GREAT feed but shes always been petite even as a filly, though her Dam was small and her Sire was too. then you look at all my other guys and they have the broad chests big butts!

The baby is not as active the past few days. for the past month he had been rolling around and kicking but for three days he's been still...occasionally Dancer will kick at her flank she's holding her tail slightly to the side and swishing it despite no flies. I think I am paranoid, due to me having had her since she was weaned...but then again when I first rode her I cried..couldn't believe my baby had grown up...

I am right now recovering from an injury *sage nod* took my 2yo around a barrel and ended up clipping it with my shin...55 gallon friggen drum head on at a gallop...OUUUUUUUUCH! Sooo Diane *cough* when are we going riding hmmmmmmm???
 

Bobbi Govro
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 1050
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Katherine: I too own one of those type mares. It is frustrating...lol...and those foal bellys amplify their petite/thin builds making them look like you need to hold a telethon to send money to the Ethiopian mares. LOL! I guess at my 92 weight (have never gained an ounce since high school and I'm, what, a week from being 47) I can understand a high metabolism. I eat like an elephant and everyone always wants to know if I'm anorexic...lol...can't help it, no matter what I can't put on weight. Blossom and I have alot in common and it makes it even worse when all the others in my herd are big, fat, chunky quarter horses so when you compare apples to oranges, the poor orange always looks like it was left out to be frostbit...giggle

Katherine...did one of those shin things when I was in my early twenties and actively barrel racing all over the country...the barrel ended up getting hung up on a piece of the saddle so not only did it hurt when I clipped it, but when the barrel got hitched and swung back to smack my horse in the flank and popped back forward to bite me again...it broke the bone that time. Hurts don't it?!?!?! My husband always calls episodes like that a "Hertz Donut"....hahaha
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 1516
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still have a major scar from that very same "Hertz Donut"...Had a big gelding that would literally SLAM you into the first barrel....did it not once, but 3 times in one day....third time broke it. But I managed to correct the horse (out of sheer adrenaline from the pain)....then went laid out across the truck seat. I remember fading in and out, thinking, "Is anyone going to do anything?"...then I heard one of my friends say to another friend, "Is that the BONE?!...OMG, I'm going to throw up"....the other followed with, "Yeah, should we call someone?"....I thought to myself, "Ok, now they've got it..." and drifted off to sleep...woke up to my dad going,"Oh my god, what happened?" And Im thinkin' "what kind of fools are these people?....paramedics, dumbass...PARAMEDICS!!!!!"
 

Bobbi Govro
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 1051
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana-HA! I have that SAME scar I think! ROFL! It IS interesting how folks react. Another funny story about folks reacting...When I was but a wee girl of 17 and drove by myself (mistake #1)out to the boarding stable on a really hot August day, I was sitting on the ground under my horse (mistake #2)out of shear laziness, putting on skid boots and leg supports, he nonchalantly picked up a front hoof to stomp at a fly, of which I had put barium shoes (mistake #3)on because I was going to be doing some pavement road riding...the barium (and I'm sure that I'm spelling it wrong)welded on to the toe of his shoe, clipped my forehead and let's just say initiated the effect that I had been properly scalped by a band of indians. It was another HERTZ DONUT event. However, what hurt me more was the fact that I had bit my tongue when I got slammed in the head. I crawled out from underneath him, oblivious to the fact my brain was now exposed (not really but you get the picture), whining and crying about my tongue. I walked into the tack barn to get something and when I turned around to go back out to the horse, there was blood everywhere. I was like...who's bleeding??? And, being as I was the only one there (out in the middle of nowhere land) and about that time, what I had previously thought was sweat running down my face, a drop of red "sweat" dripped in my eye...I determined that I was quite frankly in a wee bit of a pickle. So, I call my mother at home from the tack barn and say, "I've been kicked in the head and I'm bleeding alot but there's no mirror here so I don't know how bad I am. I'm afraid to get in the car and drive in case I black out from blood loss. Can you come and get me?" (Mistake #4-panicking parents) She jumps off the phone with me, calls my dad at work, who then proceeds to rush home to get mom and rush out (a 45 minute drive: home to stable). During which, I started to get a bit light headed and thought it might be better to start walking down the road in case something bad happened maybe someone would find me laying along side the road (mistake #5). Of course, mom & dad who were worried that I might be hanging on to life by a thread decide to stop and call the fire department along the way. A full blown emergency it was. Now, in my mental state at the time, I kept my horse tied up to the hitching rail, in full saddle/gymkhana attire, before trekking off into the wild blue yonder.

As I walked down the road for a fer piece...one of the distant neighbors happened to be coming home...in their white cadillac (mistake #6)...and immediately pulled over to the side of the road of which followed a "Do you need some help?"...ummmm, nope, just going to bleed to death taking a little afternoon stroll-don't worry yourself that I look as if I was the major star in a Chain Saw Massacre movie...so I walk up to the car, hand on the ole head like THAT'S going to solve my bleeding problem and this big, heavyset woman starts in with..."OMG...OMG...your whole top of the head is peeled off!" Nice...THAT put my little teenage heart at ease. So they make me get in their WHITE leather upholstry cadillac to rush me off to the local hospital...handing me little kleenex every 2 seconds while I apologize the whole way there about how sorry I am that I'm ruining their white seats and white carpeting and this ole woman is wailing about how I'm gonna die before they get me there.

In the meantime, back at the ranch...the fire department shows up and there is NO Bobbi to be found...just a horse tied up like he's going to the National Rodeo Finals...and what appears to be enough blood to claim it as a major crime scene investigation. The entire fire department is combing every last inch of the 140 acres looking for some STUPID 17 year old kid who's wondered off somewhere and passed out. My parents join them shortly thereafter and they are freaked out! Finally, in the meantime, the ER at the local hospital is listening to the emergency frequency and determine that the girl who just walked in their doors coated in red goo is the same girl that everyone is frantically trying to find in the wilderness. So, they contact the fire truck who in turn, escort my parents to the ER, who in turn show up in the surgery room to lecture me about "deciding to wonder off down the road" without anyone knowing where I went. It ended with me going under anesthesia with my dad mumbling something to the doctor about how I was going to be just fine since it was my HEAD that got kicked...if it were any other organ...I might have been in trouble. LOL!

I want you to know that from this day forward...I no longer sit on the ground under ANY horse nor do I ever go riding without someone being home. Thank god MY brain is not a vital necessity to my health!
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 27
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LMFAO, I have one for you....

I compete at times hunt seat equitation (Dad wants me western mom wanted me english nuff said) at any rate I was practicing on base, cleared a jump but the horse hit a nasty patch of dirt and rolled on me, he broke several ribs busted up my arm and busted up my leg....at any rate I was numb on the left leg couldnt feel a damn thing was more concerned with my horse being hurt possibly then my own pain (gotta love adrenaline) So at any rate they call the base F.D and the EMS company I worked for as a paramedic and F.F...the stupid Security force woman starts asking me these questions I look at her and the Firefighters (every womans dream rescued by hot men in bunker gear)I in medic terms explain whats goin on that Im PMSx3 (Pulse motor sensory in 3 limbs the fourth I couldnt feel ie left leg) get carted off by my paramedic team to the hospital...
the wing commander, his wife and a general show up AT the hospital to check on me and find out how my husband is holding up, fast forward 2 days later on a Monday during a briefing when its all over the base that a Pilot's wife was paralyzed during equestrian activities please say a prayer for her and her family...and for a month I had wives including commanders wives bringing me and my husband home cooked meals due to being laid up in bed with damage to left leg (thank GOD it was numb because it was busted up!)and my arm.... i even think I blacked out...

as for Dancer, it does drive me crazy, like holly who i KNOW meant well saying she looked underweight. and Im like "She isnt!! and if you think you can feed her better then do it" it took a long time for people to realize how well my horses ESPECIALLY HER get fed. so that preggo belly just does not help... right now shes really hard on the underside of her belly its real tight, but no udder developement now...she eats and eats and eats, and gets the BEST as does the orphaned filly that Ive had since she was a week old (And shes growing!!!!!) Ill have to post pics shes too damn cute and to think i thought I was all alone again *Huff*
 

Bobbi Govro
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 1053
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Katherine: HAHAHA! Hey...the meal thing...not a bad idea to "milk" that situation. I could stand to be laid up with people carting in meal after meal thinking I was paralyzed...hehehe! The older I get, the less of those HERTZ DONUTS I want. I think I'm at a point in my life now where healing up takes ALOT longer. *Giggle* I had ONE time that I had a horse go over on me...they're a bit heavy they are and the human body is not made to do much cushioning of the blow for them as they pancake us to the earth's surface. LOL! Owee!

You are not alone with one of those thin built horses. Blossom gets ultimate care and is outgrained and outhayed of any animal on the place. She just has a metabolism that burns and churns and doesn't ever reach "heavy or plump" on the ole weight-er-meter. Problem with these types of horses, when they're in foal and they carry those babies low in their belly, it "pulls" EVERYTHING down emphasizing that "rippy, hippy, ganty" appearance. Well, we can only do what we can do. If I fed Blossom much more than what she is getting...lol...I'd be dealing with founder laminitis and honestly, one big round of that fever laminitis was enough for me in a lifetime.

Blossom as a maiden last year, got absolutely zero udder development until AFTER she foaled. In fact, I was worried right after the birth but upon milking her I got colostrum...within 24 hours, she had a good sized udder. Might be typical for these high metabolism type horses...not sure.
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 28
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobbi thank you SO much. I honestly have dealt with text book pregnancies and she by far was not one. she looks hippy (As you can see) but her vulva and rectum are relaxing out shes 'swollen' and it is usually pretty prominant. Ill try and get more photos of her, but this weight JUST started this month on the belly!!! one day she was thin and the next BAM she was fat n sassy! Her belly is firm and hard underneath not at all soft now...and the milk vein is distended. she keeps driving me crazy all I want for her is a healthy pregnancy with a healthy foal so I try to do what I can. I leave her with my gelding because the both were raised together so he and her are pretty tight. He looks out for her with the other horses...

you wanna talk about ribby? we took in a rescue Appendix QH who was rain rotted on 98 percent of his body and so emaciated he couldnt stand hardly, he'd fall vet told me to just put him down.... I spent nights with him running an IV in his neck to hydrate him feeding him caring for him. He's alive but even after 500 pound weight gain (we have only had him a short time) he still looks thin... hes getting there but the vet says he would have never believed this guy would make it. so between him and my bottle baby filly I had my hands full and now with Dancer its added...

you telling me blossom did the same thing makes me feel tons better, YOU understand! but do you think you could do me a favor? post pics of her as a pregnant maidan from 7-11 month?? and back end too if you have any?? I'd REALLY love to do a comparison and watch the changes of your gal
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1044
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"as for Dancer, it does drive me crazy, like holly who i KNOW meant well saying she looked underweight. and Im like "She isnt!! and if you think you can feed her better then do it" it took a long time for people to realize how well my horses ESPECIALLY HER get fed."

Katherine, Firstly, I know you mean well, and I never said your mare isnt fed or I think I could do a better job. I do think she looks thin and a bit underweight.Not only because of the belly but her ribs are pronounced as well as her hips and tail head which very well could be from the pregnancy. BUT in your original post it semmed as if you were not sure if your mare was pregnant and asking opinions which I gave, Sorry you took offense to my post. But the flame of "and if you think you can feed her better then do it" was unnecessary. And I was not the only poster who thought she was thin.
I have rescued mare and put weight back on them and completely understand how feeding horses work. I also have friends with Arabs and understand they can be tiny framed, look thin, And not be easy keepers. I wasnt flaming you for being a bad horse caretaker. But I dont like getting chewed on for trying to help.
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(Message edited by Bonny on December 02, 2008)
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 29
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Holly you mistook it and I didnt realize HALF my damn sentence was out of that I am SO sorry!!!

what I was trying to say is I know you meant well.

apparantly I accidently deleted half of it (I NEVER start a sentence with a lowercase 'and' much less start with an or ect the original post was (Please note the bold..Holly I am SO sorry I totally did not proof it nor did I flame you I use a laptop sometimes and the mousepad is sensitive I suck with it and either end up starting a sentence in the middle of a setence or unintentionally deleting forgive me I was not chewing you I was saying you meant well and meant to include that post as for neighbors and people I used to know at the barn that were around when she was young I am sorry)

as for Dancer, it does drive me crazy, like holly who i KNOW meant well saying she looked underweight.NEIGHBORS MENTION IT, and Im like "She isnt!! and if you think you can feed her better then do it" it took a long time for people to realize how well my horses ESPECIALLY HER get fed.
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 1518
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here....kitty, kitty!
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 1519
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, let me just say that I was the one who said she was thin in the first place. She does look thin.....so what. Different horses, different situations....it's ok. I was slightly offended for HOlly when I read the "If you think you can do better " post, but I'm glad y'all got it figured out.
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1045
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for clearing that up. I accept your explanation, I couldnt imagine why you were flaming only me for saying she was a bit under weight.( when I am on foal watch and get sleep deprived I get extra sensitive ask Diana)lol.

I had a rescued mare who was a very hard keeper, and was 250 lbs underweight when I got her. The reason I mentioned the weight was because as I was putting weight on her she grew this "pot bellied" look. It was weird, but being a rescue I assumed she could be preggers and sent of blood. She wasnt the belly was a "stage " of her gaining weight. I recently sold her and although they are feeding her she is thin again. ( I have this thing about seeing ribs, forgive me, I also have "healthy kids" lol)
I was thinking it may be an option for your mare, but now dont think so as you have had her and she is maintaining, not gaining weight so to speak.
I didnt realize that you really believe now her to be preg, but there is something to be said for gut feelings. All along I felt my mare was bred and the vet kept telling me she wasnt, she is and due in the next few weeks. He was surprised when he finally realized she was by rectal U.S. ( I had him out 5 times, no joke!)
As for your girl, who is she bred to?
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 30
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you and I are BOTH sleep deprived, I have Miakoda who is on a bottle...and with her being so young I am constantly up with her, plus the paranoia. She didnt really gain she did the "am I am I not game" for awhile, and within the last month have actually begun gaining now to where its notable. her tummy is becoming firm underneath to the touch and you can feel the foal... (not as much as it was but more prominant) I didn't realize the whole mess of missing words, I have no mean bone in my body to flame people trying to help!!! I have her on feed shes on hay 24/7 gets alfalfa and supplements. Dancer isnt a rescue in the least bit though for the potbelly look *Looks at lakhota*I am going through that with him he has a major hay belly!!!!!! but at least he is up and walking and not dead.

When she got out she ended up being bred by a black Arab stud. It is the only stud I saw her with and we rectified her escape. he is a look, stockier then she is dished face but short, no taller then her. he is a straight black and I feel she is a true gray (she was black with a blaze as a colt NOW look at her) the vet she couldnt even get a full palpate and for awhile I believed her, but now its to the point that she is either pregnant or needs an exorcist...

wouldn't it be great if ours foaled the same time?? which mare of yours is due?? and who is she bred to?? and thank you for understanding and accepting my error, I really had no clue I fubarred until I read your post and was like "wtf is she talking about?" I reread and went "Awwwww crawp man way to make a good impression Kat"
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1046
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sh#T Happens! Thats the one thing we can count on, really, I am ok with it now that I know what happened, and a bit ashamed for getting twerped.
My Mare is Bonny, she is due end of Dec beginning of feb as far as we know, lol. She is starting to show signs, but still a flabby udder, you can see her in the foaling section. My big concern with her is she is very young, the people I got her from told me she was 4 yrs lat Dec, then recently I noticed she had grown 4 inches this past year AND her front Adult teeth were coming in, so she is about 2&1/2 yrs old.
If I had known I wouldnt have re bred her. Its ok though we just have to do the best we can., Thankfully I have this board and good members to get us through it.
I am starting to foal watch her now even though I do believe I have time, just me being cautious!

Any changes in your gals udder yet?
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh man

well it wasn't your fault that the people lied to you in the least bit. Some people really suck! and not in the good way either. I remember now your story ~nod~ I read it on the forum and I felt for you that has GOT to be frustrating but you have NO reason to blame yourself! it was the fault of others and I am sure she will do wonderfully.

Not yet, she bagged up and down and bagged up and now she just has long teats but the udder is still flabby though the milk vein is large. I check her daily, since I have had her from a foal she is pretty okay with me touching them I wash them with warm water handle them check her, she is all lovey dovey and 'touch me pet me kiss me hold me' the only blessing?? she hasnt had a cycle (Shes a PAIN!!!) I felt bad for awhile because after the vet said she wasn't and she didn't look it... I started her under saddle and rode her hard one day walk trot walk trot...then about a week late she started gaining more girth and her belly doing the lopsided bit one day pregnant the other day not...finally I was curled up with her (I have her and a colt that I broke that i cuddle with) they lay down and ill curl up and read a book, and I told her "I wish you could say yay or nay' she laid her head on me and that was the first time I felt the bump. now its become prominant and I know where to feel (the baby sits in the low belly if I feel JUST in front of the udder and rare on the side I can get a bump but the baby sits usually in the bottom of her belly and it stays firm I can get a good feel, though he/she isnt moving as much I had a dream the other night that it was a chestnut foal with stockings and a blaze)
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1047
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am jealous. I have never felt any of my mares foals. I have seen Bonnys baby poke a hoof out ONE time( even got a pic) but by the time I went to feel it was gone...
Bonny had an udder blow up last July but nothing since. Any day now I expect her to start.....

I haope your mare throws you an awesome foal. The friend of mine that has an Arabian is one of my favorite horses to ride. He is so spook proof! He is a chestnut with a white blaze and 1 stocking!
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

omgs!! well that is cool! see? you have a photo of a hoof! I don't have that!!! now -I- am the one that is jealous!!!

My APppy colt is a good boy, he is two and starting on barrels, but he is offering NO resistance or spooking we truely are one when we ride and for his age he does remarkable things, but I love him. Dancer is learning the last time was my 3 ride on her back, she has never offered to throw me but is still uncertain about being out... I cant wait to see what Bonny throws though! and can NOT wait to see pics!!!!
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

Post Number: 1051
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea me too! I hope for a pinto out of her....
But the foal is already sold so it doesnt matter.
I also am waiting on my Paint mare to throw a paint foal! Welsh size, that will be my new ride.
I went and checked and Bonnys tiny udder got a wee bit wider in the center! So maybe we will see more tomorrow.
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wooohoooooo!! gues I should go check on my fat ole preggo mare one last time tonight. Poor gal she is going to be sick of me!

welsh sized paint?? I totally want to see photos on that one..and you already have the foal sold?? wow.... before its even born you have some great luck!
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gah no change in udder development, I felt her mid belly right around her 'belly button' pressed and got bumped back, I think I woke the baby up right after wards Dancer turned with a slight snort. shes uncomfortable she isnt as active lately sorta drags her back legs and swishes her tail...the poor baby
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I spoke with my vet since Dancer is due for vaccines (Had to take a kitten in for a denutting) Explained to him I am not sure the due date so he wants to make sure. Tomarrow she goes in for vaccinations, a U.S, and an initial physical to make sure the foal won't be a problem (Since she is a small mare he wants to make sure she is healthy) at any rate I will FINALLY get an idea of how far along she is!!! YAY!!! (Or whether she needs an exorcist ha ha) Now I am all nervous and giddy and nervous and Gah what if I find out she isn't preggers and what I have been feeling is something else??? I think I will have nightmares all evening
 

Bobbi Govro
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 1074
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Katherine: Hmmmm...you might want to do the US first, then decide on vaccinations. My vets always have me vaccinate my mares in the last 30 days of pregnancy so that they pass on those immunities to the foal...just a thought you might want to ask your vet.
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 37
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heh alright so all that but not nessicarily in that order.... We only basically discussed it today because he wants to get an idea of her due date...I'll ask him tomarrow Bobbi thanks. I am a paranoid Mama Im hoping everything will be alright she is such a small mare, and I am so hopeful. I KNOW I feel things moving but thanks to the dingbat of a vet last time I am ALL sorts of paranoid yanno??and this is my baby having a baby and the first one of MY horses foaling
 

Bobbi Govro
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 1075
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm right there with ya! My horses (prior to starting THIS breeding program) were on an annual vaccination/float teeth/maintenance program in June of each year (shoot...my small animals got their rabies vaccinations at the same time...hehehe...why pay the office visit when the vets are already at the farm!).

I learned when having them prego that everyone's vaccination schedule would then be "on the move". Even though I run a closed herd, I actually vaccinate with pneumabort in the 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th month, with a full set of everything; including rabies and west nile, at 30 days prior to foaling. Now, with that said, hahaha, no one ever foals textbook but by doing that, I give everyone a good shot at getting the immunity (I believe the immunity passes to the suckling foal up to 45 days past injection).

Then, when the babies are weaned, they get a dose of their own.

The two guys are the only ones that stay on an annual schedule with the dogs & cats. So the mares are always a month or two or three or so behind every year.

I even do this vaccine schedule with the cows and pigs because they too will pass along immunities to their babies using this techinique. Its a "bookkeeping nightmare" actually to keep everyone straight. LOL!

She's a little mare but those Arabs are built like TB's so its their thin hip structure that certainly makes one be a bit on their toes at foal time. Blossom's baby got hip locked and human intervention at foaling is a necessity for her at baby time. I would handle Dancer the same way. The better idea that you have on her due date, the better you can care for her when the time comes. These little first timers certainly should have maximum DUHH care! LOL
 

Katherine DaSo
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Drum Roll please....

Dancer is 10 months along!!! healthy but LARGE foal. kept kicking at the U.S I have a full head shot of the baby (Minus the ears lol) she entered first words "healthy blood flow through the cord" I asked "So theres something in there?" she said "Probably an alien" allowed me to watch I got to see the head and all. they even froze it and saved me a head shot of the baby. they said the baby is healthy and so is the mama that her flanks are dropping because she is maiden and so near... said shes small but the baby will be a large one so guess what??I get to join the foal watch board now!!! YAY ME!!!!! but on a serious note I am SO nervous now!!! they said it should be a cut and dry delivery the baby is facing towards the vulva in the canal now but is upside down, they say they dont see any problems the pregnancy is progessing like clockwork and the baby will hopefully roll... This makes me feel so elated and happy and great!!!! Im excited! and now everyone in the house that said she wasnt is looking at me like "you were right" My Vet told me a womans instinct is an amazing thing, but I explained to her the stall I had set up, as well as when i had vaccinated her wormed her and the fact she loaded easily because I work my horses once a week in and then out of the trailer I was told I was a good owner and can do nothing more for Dancer...

I just wanted to share the news NOW I am going to foal watch!!Gah..now I am a nervous wreck...
 

Bobbi Govro
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 1079
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congratulations! And, yes, I would also recommend that because of her build that you do the best you can to ensure you are there. Those little narrow pelvis bones can be tricky with these leggy foals. I'm sure everything will be just fine!
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 2003
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Katherine~Congratulations!!!
 

Katherine Kehamas Wind Dancer Due Jan
Weanling
Username: Soarsamongstars

Post Number: 43
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys, its a breath of fresh air to know FOR CERTAIN, but now Im worried and hoping it all goes to plan..How the hell do you guys sit and wait like this?? Im more antsy now then I was when I DIDNT know!!!



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