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Help with most likely breed date?

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Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 120
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi there,
I have a mini mare that I am unsure of the breed date on...hoping someone can help me out. Last year she foaled on 3/21. She was taken to the breeder on 4/8. (20 days post foaling) I assume she missed foal heat (?), but what would be the next probable breed date...not knowing how long her cycle is? (mini gestation is 330 days give or take 10 days) She was sonogrammed in foal after she had been there 45 days (May23, 07). Can someone who knows more about cycles than me help me figure out when she was MOST LIKELY to have been bred?
 

charlene birdsall, Baby due 4/2/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Charlie67

Post Number: 632
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I'm no expert, but from the info you gave I say she probally got pregnant either the end of April or mabey the first week of May. If I remember correctly they come into their foal heat about 7 days after foaling, so I think your right in assuming that they missed that one since she didn't get to the breeder until 4/8. If I remember correctly mares cycle about every 16 to 20 days. So she probally didn't come back in until 4/11 or so, depending on how long her heat cycles last. So if she didn't take on that breeding she probally would of come back in some time during the first week of May. Do you know how many time they bred her, and exactly what the date of her last breeding was? It sure would help to pin down her due date.
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 124
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She was pasture bred...but was confirmed in foal at 45 days from April 8th. Doesn't that pretty much mean she'd have to have bred the first heat? Or how soon can they tell on sono that she's prego? Is it 18 days or so? I never can remember all this stuff. And this is the first one I just have no idea about. She's the one I thought was due in the last week of February, but I believe now that I was off on my dates. She's probably not due until March 14th or so. Does that sound right? Who knows anyway....she's so stinkin HUGE for a 28" horse. Last year she bagged up about 6 weeks in advance (as a maiden)...and this year, nothing but a small udder thus far...some nights it's fuller, some not. Many minis don't bag up, and I have no idea when to expect it. She worries me because she was very silent about it last time...and even with the cameras on her, she never gave ANY sign of labor. She ate well, didn't seem stressed at all, no temp change, no milk change. I actually went to check on her at 7 am....fed her, she ate well, then my husband went down at 7:50 and she had legs hanging out of her. NO NOTICE whatsoever!!! That's also the mare who lost her foal because it was soooo huge she couldn't deliver. So I am trying to pinpoint her breed date a little closer. Thanks for your help Charlene
 

charlene birdsall, Baby due 4/2/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Charlie67

Post Number: 633
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A good vet can detect pregnancy as early as 15 or 16 days. You've got me a little confused. How could she be confirmed in foal at 45 days from 4/8? She was at the breeders from 4/8 to 5/23. What day was she sonogramed? Also a good vet can measure the embro and give a estimate as to how many days in foal they are. At any rate I say she would most likely be due either the end of March or mid April. Have you tried using the test strips with her?
 

JackieB
Nursing Foal
Username: Jackieb

Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't it 14 days on most mares? Or is that just ultrasound?
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 129
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Charlene, she was taken 4/8 to the breeders...confirmed in foal 5/23....sorry, now I get it.....she was confirmed in foal after having been with the stallion for 45 days. The breeder did not sonogram before then.
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 130
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, knowing that she was in foal on 5/23.....I wondered
1) if it were possible she bred during her foal heat
&2) If she missed foal heat, when was the next date she would have bred....and it be detectable on sonogram by 5/23.
 

charlene birdsall, Baby due 4/2/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Charlie67

Post Number: 638
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana, I think you would of missed her foal heat. I think mares have their first foal heat 7 days after foaling. That means she would have been in her foal heat on 3/28. Therefore, having missed her foal heat, she should have come back in about 16 to 21 days later. Most mares are in heat for 5 to 7 days. Given that she would have gone out either the 4/2 or 4/4 from her foal heat. Then she would come back in between 4/18 - 4/23. She could have gotton pregnant in between 4/18 and 4/23. If not, then she probally got pregnant the week of 5/9. Does any of this make any sense. It's hard to explain. So if she got pregant between the 4/18 and 4/23 heat then she would be due approximately 4/4.
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 131
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Charlene! Very helpful.



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