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Teasing a mare into early heat for live cover?

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Jill H
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Username: Goldhorse

Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The breeder whom I will be taking my mare to (again) for live cover insists that a mare can be brought into heat sooner if she is exposed to the stallion, that is, placing her in a "teasing" stall next to the stallion a few days before she is supposed to come into heat. Basically he thinks the entire cycle can be shortened. Perhaps she would show heat sooner, but will she ovulate sooner? Seems to me if you know when ovulation occurs, then you can plan accordingly without trying to speed up the process and possibly miss ovulation.

Last year I took her a 4 days in advance, she did not come into heat early, but came into heat when I said she would. We bred her 3 times that week and it took. (unfortunately I just found out that somewhere along the line she absorbed it, so back again in a couple of weeks).

Anyone have any insight on the validity of this approach?
 

Kim k
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Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jill,
you are correct, this will not bring a mare into a true heat. Sometimes a mare will show signs when taken into a new enviroment with a stallion as this is natures way of saying to the stallion that the mare is willing to be part of his herd.Depending on the mare, some will accept the stallion upon arriving at the farm because of natures way, but she will not be in "true standing heat"

good luck
 

Faye Gallagher
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jill
The only way I know of shortening a cycle is through chemical manipulation (PG). The stallion owner needs some education one would think
 

Jill H
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Username: Goldhorse

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Faye
It would seem so, but he's been breeding this stallion very successfully for 20+ years. Fortunately I have my mare's cycle pretty well mapped out and will take her when the window of opportunity is imminent. I was right on the money last year, and interestingly this year the dates are identical to last year. Unfortunately she lost it somewhere along the line so no baby this season.
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone have any insight on the validity of this approach?

Sure! It's rubbish!! :-)

Take a look at the article about the mare's estrous cycle for more details about the hormonal cascade required to achieve regular cyclicity - and perhaps a better understanding that standing a mare next to a stallion will not suddenly cause this intricate ballet of hormones to change speed into a sprinting race!

If one has a mare that does not display well, then placing her next to a stallion may be beneficial, but all one is doing is encouraging the display - it's not changing the hormones.
 

Jill H
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Username: Goldhorse

Post Number: 10
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos - I agree...and I did read that article, which reinforced what I already thought.
Last year I took my mare 3 days before she was due to come into heat and no way was she having anything to do with the stallion...until she came into heat, 3 days later, exactly to the date I predicted. I know my mare. Fortunately she seems to be pretty regular, which allows me to plan my trip over there and not have to leave her as long.

Thanks for your response.



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