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Help, trying to teach stallion to live cover after AI....

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Lori Blatter
Neonate
Username: Kmkpaints

Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2011
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

6 year old stallion, Has always been collected AI. Probably has been collected 30 times in his life overall. No problems during collections, most the time ejaculates on first mounting. He did require a mare very "in heat"... Not real aggressive breeder.

Due to change in circumstance he is now being asked to live cover. Mare is standing great, he will mount, does a nice job mounting correctly, he is able to penetrate and will thrust several times but seems to just give up. He will dismount and stand, and if allowed will get another erection and remount but the same process occurs. We allowed him two trys this morning, and then put him away.

We brought him back out, and while he was a bit more aggressive about breeding, again he just seemed to give up. Almost like "this is too much work"

I gave him a couple tries again and put him away.

I have never had this problem before. The closest repro place is an hour away and as a last resort I would imagine I could take him to collect each time I had a mare to breed but would rather not when I can do it for free at home!
 

Baraaks_Storm
Weanling
Username: Baraaks_storm

Post Number: 49
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope someone can help with this as I am no expert. My boy is going on 6 but I use him for both. He's mostly for my own mares and they are live cover but I've used him for AI a few times as well and he's never had a problem.

Maybe the mare isn't showing enough?
 

Lori Blatter
Neonate
Username: Kmkpaints

Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2011
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she is being really patient and showing pretty well (better than most) I have beat my head against the wall all day.

He is of a shorter stature (14.3) and she is a bit taller 15.1 or so.

We tried several times this day and honestly during one of the times I actually noticed he wasnt penetrating completely and I have to wonder if he isnt getting enough stimulation and that is more the issue.

Tomorrow I am going to try and put her on a downhill, and see if that helps. If it doesnt I broke out the colorado AV and will attempt to collect him off her...

I did notice he was belled out a little when dismounting but not like my other stallion and only once was he breathing hard. He did also kind of start having some muscle trembling the one time, so again wondering if he is just reaching to much and since he is not a high libido stallion, just too much NOT RIGHT to get our desired results..

So one by one I guess I will pick off each issue .. I was hoping someone would have some other ideas here...



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