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Phantom tip I discovered yesterday

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Chris Taylor
Weanling
Username: Galaxy

Post Number: 28
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had a stallion here to collect & extend. Was his second exposure to the process on my phantom, the first time was unremarkable & everything went well. yesterday although 90% erect, displaying flehmen, dripping from nose and penis he still wouldn't jump up onto the phantom. As we were working to air freight times I introduced his penis to the AV while he was still standing...that got some action..he began to thrust them leapt up on to the phantom and the job was done. He has previously done lots of collecting overseas as well as natural service.
 

Jos
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Post Number: 2668
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When faced with this situation and sliding the AV on in this manner, be aware that there are typically several possible outcomes:
  • The stallion mounts as described, and collects. Note however that in some cases the mounting will be extremely enthusiastic, and one needs to be careful that the AV does not get trapped between the stallion's abdomen and the breeding mount as the stallion descends onto the mount, in which case it could get broken (been there, done that!). The other aspect to be careful of is your toes as the stallion steps forward to mount! (Yup - been there done that too!! :-));
  • The stallion leans forward against the mount and starts thrusting without mounting, and in many cases collects while all four feet are on the ground (or perhaps the front feet leave the ground slightly and the front end is supported by the mount). This is fine! Simply because one has a mount doesn't mean one needs to have the horse mount it as long as he collects safely on the ground!
  • The stallion looks at you with a puzzled look on his face and loses his erection. Oh well, time to try something else! :-)
  • The stallion becomes fractious and may even cow-kick at the AV handler.
Hope this might prevent some unexpected responses!
 

Chris Taylor
Weanling
Username: Galaxy

Post Number: 30
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jos,I made a careful appreciation of the situation first and briefed the lady holding her stallion about what to do if it started to go wrong. He was VERY ENTHUSIASTIC once intromission occurred and we got about 60ml of ejaculate. I always wear a riding helmet and military flak jacket when collecting too. I've never ground collected so was very wary of a possible cow kick, fortunately the plan came together nicely.



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