Post Number: 5
|Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 01:52 pm: ||
I am using a reusable latex liner for the CO AV. I have an AI book and the cleaning procedure in here seems completely impractical. Using deionized water for five rinses along with other solutions. I have been advised to just use cold tap water. any other ideas or suggestions? Do I need to be concerned about hard well water? Thanks
Post Number: 2347
|Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 07:25 pm: ||
You need to be concerned about using anything that leaves a potentially spermicidal residue, and/or anything that carries bacteria.
That rules out using regular tap water, and distilled water. It also means that you have to ensure complete removal of any cleaning agent like Alconox.
If you don't follow the above, then you might get lucky and be OK.
It's why we always use a disposable liner. It's easier, cleaner, cheaper (in the long run), and even though we constantly hear "well my stallion won't collect in a disposable liner", we collect between 300-500 stallions a year, and probably half of those supposedly don't collect in a liner (they do though! ).
If you don't wash out and reuse condoms, why do you expect your stallion to?
Take another look at disposable liners...
Post Number: 34
|Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 01:02 am: ||
Jos, as mentioned in another thread, my stallion tends to tear disposable liners consistently. Is there some reason for this?
I have a Missouri AV, and find liners rather difficult to install. Add that to the rip, spilled semen, etc. and it boils down to my using the latex only also, and cleaning it after each collection. I soak, then scrub it out good with an AV brush several times, then rinse with very hot tap water several times, then spray with alcohol, and hang it to dry. I've not run into any problems doing this. Maybe, as you say, I've just been lucky. I will say, however, that I learned how to clean an AV at a major stallion station, where they collect, without liners, and freeze many stallions per day.
Right now I'm having a problem as the latex in my AV has partially bonded together. It's not enough to affect my stallion, but a concern to me.
Post Number: 2425
|Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:07 am: ||
Distasteful as this question is, would you wash out a condom and reuse it? And if not, why would you require that your stallion does so?
I am opposed to not using disposable liners for a variety of reasons, cleanliness and simplicity being at the top of the list.
Contact Minitube and purchase a roll of their AV liner, or a bag of precut liners from that roll. It is a good liner and will not be likely to rip.
Store your latex AV in corn starch during the "off" season. It will increase longevity. Once it starts sticking together, it's lifespan is limited...
Post Number: 36
|Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 04:19 pm: ||
Jos, thank you for the suggestion about the Minitube. I'll try those.
As for distasteful, I think those of us who have been around breeding this long, can't be offended by anything sexual. It's just part of our routine day, at least with our horses .
This reminds me of a funny story. A few years ago we had a very well known female veterinarian in our area and circle of friends. We were out to lunch one day at a crowded little restaurant. The pay phone was right in the door, in a tight space where people were not only congregated to get in, but also to pay at the register.
The vet had gotten beeped... went to the pay phone and called the client. The client on the other end of the phone was complaining about some problem she was having with her stallion breeding a mare. On this end, all the entire restaurant could hear was this nice looking lady, telling the lady on the other end... "well, he does have an enormous penis, that's probably why he's having trouble getting it in." Every head whirled in her direction, and I do think there was a gasp or two. We just don't stop to realize how shocking this every day talk can be to everyone else.
Back to the AV... it is sticking inside, where the water goes. I've started blowing it full of air after each use, but there is a section stuck together that won't budge. I'll certainly consider a new French model.
Post Number: 29
|Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 11:30 pm: ||
Barbara, that is hilarious!! I couldn't stop giggling as I could picture the whole thing in true living color! It's so true... we do have quite a bit of lingo in the horse world, not just the breeding world, that could really be misconstrued!