Posted From: 18.104.22.168
|Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:17 pm: ||
I have been wondering about pasture breeding and the frequency of a stallion covering a mare. We would only want to inseminate a mare once or twice per cycle and yet a stallion(mine) would probably cover a mare many,many times if left with her. Is there any evidence that there is more incidence of infection etc. with pasture breeding?
Posted From: 22.214.171.124
|Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 02:10 am: ||
My first mare was pasture bred. I didn't have any problems and she took on the first cycle. The stallion will only breed as many times at the mare will let him.
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
|Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 12:07 pm: ||
We turned my mare out in March with my first year stallion so he could figure things out. He bred her A LOT! He would cover her several times a day as she was the only mare available and she was willing. Aside from the inflamatory response that it causes (she didn't get in foal because of it) she showed to him so much (squatting and urinating) and leaned on the fence while doing this that she scalded her backside from the urine running down her! It was a sad site! She was only out with him for 4 days but had no hair in between her back legs it was all burned off, it swelled up and looked so sore! I put diaper rash cream on it as she picked up her feet in protest and tried desparately not to kick at me. I felt so bad. I would not leave her out with him again for longer than an hour. I can tell you from observation that my stallion can/would cover her 4 or 5 times in that hour. It was good for him as he got experience and isn't clumsy breeding now and knows what to do. But my mare isn't in foal as she got bred too much (inflamatory response) so I will have to breed again next year. I am going to have my vet follow her via ultrasound rather than just breed every other day, give her HCG etc. I also think we will use the Oxytocin protocol on this site to see if we can get her in foal. I've had problems with her in the past but she was so good to my young stallion stood like a pro while he fumbled around and figured it all out.
Bottom line from me, I wouldn't turn a mare out with a stallion again if she was the only mare in heat in the corral/pasture.
Posted From: 188.8.131.52
|Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:09 pm: ||
I wouldn't pasture breed period. It's dangerous for both the mare and stallion. My stallion is a show horse as well-I won't even do live cover with him. Not even with my own mares. I think you're just asking for trouble when pasture breeding. It's just not worth the risk. I've seen stallions with broken bones and other injuries because of it, then the owners are crying that their stallion was hurt and they don't have the money for surgery...it's not right and they knew better.
Mane Tyme Morgans
Posted From: 184.108.40.206
|Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 07:31 am: ||
I agree. I don't pasture breed but I do hand breed and only hand breed. (AI is too expensive for us small breeders tho my stallion is reg for AI)
Pasture breeding IMHO can seriously hurt the mare and stallion. I would rather control the breeding and know when the mare was bred then guessing.
Posted From: 220.127.116.11
|Posted on Monday, January 05, 2004 - 10:53 pm: ||
I taught my 3 year old stallion to pasture breed because he was impossible for me to handle since I had just had surgery. He was normally well-behaved and still is, but when we approached that first mare and he was getting out of control, I stopped the process there. I waited until she went out of heat and then about a day before she was to come in again I put them out together. He was a complete idiot, having been a show horse and never out with other horses since he was with his dam. He was a little scared of the mare, but then got really aggressive. She was a experienced mare and stood well when in heat, but would not put up with his aggressiveness. End result, he bred her finally after the first day and then I took her out and put her back in on the third day. I then took her out and kept her out until she was just going out of heat. She stood for him once that time and then let him know she was finished. I left her in with him for 2 weeks after that. The next time I tried to hand breed a mare, he approached with caution, took his time and did his job with no problems. He has been that way every since. He did get some swelling on his chest, but it was a small price to pay to have a stallion I can handle and is well-behaved. I prefer hand breeding as it is safer for the mare and the stallion, but my doctor had told me not to lift more that 5 lbs. for 6 months (what a joke) and I had mares to breed and a untried stallion I couldn't control.