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Submissive mare or phantom heat? Urinating to stallion a week after breeding

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Anonymous (206.228.14.1)
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a 16 yr old mare who was bred on foal heat last week - full standing heat for 5 days. She and her foal are pastured next to our stallion's corral and she keeps running past him and literally spraying urine. We don't see how she could be in heat again as she was bred last week. Just in case, we haltered her and tried to tease her. She was most definitely NOT interested. She is a submissive mare and I'm just wondering if this is submissive mare behavior rather than a heat issue. This is our first time breeding this particular mare ourselves so I'm not sure what her "normal" post breeding behavior is. She is very visible with heat - urinating and sqatting to the stallion, mares, whoever may be around. This is also the first year we've had a resident stallion on our farm and she does not behave this way around the mares.
 

Kelly (63.172.47.219)
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that you are right about her being submissive. I have had mares that acted that same way until actually presented with the stallion. They would throw off and act as if they were in heat, but then not stand if the stallion were to touch or attempt to mount. Your instincts are most probably on track.
 

les joiner
Posted From: 152.163.189.231
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I concur with kelly's opinion. She's just submissive, there may also be some passive aggressiveness hidden below the surface, usually it is harmonaly based, be carefull
 

Jess
Posted From: 207.179.135.61
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a similar problem. My mare foaled 18 days ago and never seemed to come "out" of her foal heat! I have had her long enough to notice this is unusual. She did have a minor infection post foaling. Could it be recurring??
 

Jos
Posted From: 142.177.79.4
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is most likely that you are seeing either a prolonged estrus - and indeed, note that "foal heat" ovulations can occur anywhere from 5 to 15 days after foaling on average, so it may in fact not be abnormal at all, depending upon when she started displaying estrus; or a submissive behaviour if you are teasing to a stallion.

If in doubt ultrasound will tell you.
 

Sammie
Posted From: 12.145.186.66
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have had three mares like this. WIth foals at their side. Urinated winking etc.. We were checking one mare all week and we missed her.. This is driving me crazy.. Even with a 4.0 she would let the stallion near her.. We are short cycling and A/I next week.

GRR



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