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DO OUTSIDE FACTORS DETERMINE FOALING DATE TOO?

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Kris Moos
Weanling
Username: Kris

Post Number: 24
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know 320 to 370 is considered normal, but does the size of foal determine delivery date at all? will a large foal cause the mare to deliver earlier than the "average" 340 days? does weather play a part too? less light hours, cold, snowy, etc.?

WILL A MARE PRODUCE A FOAL TO LARGE TO DELIVER?
 

Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 213
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kris,
it has always been to our experience and have been told by many that a mare will not produce a foal larger than she can handle. Many years ago we had several large ponys and would breed to a 16 hand tb and had no problems, also breeding to a large qh. We achieved what we wanted and that was a small horse normally matureing out around 14'2 .
Never have we see weather playing a true part in the average days a mare carrys. We have had the same several mares for multiple breedings and their due days always stay close to the previous years. We figure a general due day of 11 months ten days. I have a mare that is 11 months 18 days. Each mare is its own and if you have a mare for multiple breedings you can sometimes figure on the past year. My one mare is exact to the day every year. She has had several foals with the exact same birthdate. You hear people say that the weather must be doing it, but again I don't think that it is a "true" influence on it.

?? what do others think ?
Kim
 

Emma
Breeding Stock
Username: Emma

Post Number: 105
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have had all three of my mares foal this year on stormy nights, just after consecutive hot days(30 - 35% celcius). I don't think this played a huge part in the foaling dates on a weekly base, but i think on a day to day basis it may have. On all three foalings we had a run of very hot weather for 3 - 4 days and then a stormy much cooler thunderstormy night. All three mares delivered on the stormy nights releaving there babies (i believe)for a few days of the hot sticky weather. Just my opinon.
 

Lori
Neonate
Username: Lori

Post Number: 7
Registered: 09-2004
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A full moon always meant a FOAL moon, around here! If they were close to their date, that is.
Lori
 

Kris Moos
Weanling
Username: Kris

Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great, thank you for the information!
so I should not worry that my mare will not be able to deliver this foal?
This mares first foal was conceived around this same time as this one, so march 26 may be the date..thats the first ones birthdate. she was born during a thunder snow storm...yes thunder and lightning and snowing like crazy!!
 

Leonard Kistner
Neonate
Username: Len

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy has 35-45- mares foaling. Me, I stay up on stormy nights.low pressure systems,coldest nights and full moons. Best time to foal is 3:00 AM. Seems so anyway.
 

Kris Moos
Weanling
Username: Kris

Post Number: 28
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will have to check for upcoming full moons and storm systems coming in. past two foals this mare foaled at 10:30 pm and 11:15 pm.
 

Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 216
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Full moons are a good indicator (providing that it is close to their due date). And a stormy night too. We had two mares foal and a goat give birth all within the same stormy week, but again it was their time to have the babies. But again we have never seen the weather play a major role in length of gestation. It can play a immediate factor as mentioned above.

They can play a fast one and change something on you too. I have a mare that normally foals around 11 am and last year she decided to do it at 11 pm ! And another that normally goes around 3-4 am and went at 7 pm at night. So they can pull a fast one .
 

Kris Moos
Weanling
Username: Kris

Post Number: 32
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HOW EARLY WOULD BE TOO EARLY? I WAS READING THIS AM ABOUT EGYPTIAN ARABIAN PREGNANCIES (WHICH IS WHAT THIS MARE IS , HOWEVER CARRYING A qh x) AND THEY SAY 304 IS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY...THAT SOUND TOO EARLY. HOWEVER AS LARGE AS MY MARE IS I AM NOT SURE IF SHE CAN GO 2 MORE MONTHS KNOWING THAT THIS IS WHEN THE FOAL GAINS THE MOST WEIGHT! I THINK SHE WILL EXPLODE...
 

Gynna Meiller
Yearling
Username: Jw_kings_excalibur

Post Number: 89
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have always read and been told that before 320 days is a premi. So if your mare goes another week and a half she should be okay..Maidens tend to come early as well..good luck and keep us posted..
 

Kris Moos
Weanling
Username: Kris

Post Number: 34
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I WAS ONLY ASKING IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HEARD THIS.
MY MARE IS NOT 304, SHE IS ONLY 253(OR SO), JUST VERY LARGE, SHE IS NOT "DUE" UNTIL LATE MARCH EARLY APRIL, HOWEVER I AM WONDERING WHY SHE IS DROPPING ALREADY. (PHOTOS POSTED UNDER A DIFFERENT HEADING)
I DO NOT KNOW HER EXACT 3 OF DAYS SHE WENT WITH HER LAST 2, SO WELL JUST WAIT...
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Jos

Post Number: 10424
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember that the terms "premature", "dysmature" and "postmature" are relative to neonate condition, not gestational duration.... :-)

Having said that the average equine gestation is anywhere from 320 to 370 days, so one is certainly more likely to see prematurity prior to 320 days.



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