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E-mail Horse Scams??

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Mary Greer
Breeding Stock
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 117
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didnt know where else to put this... I have a colt for sale and my stallion is up for stud also.. I recieved the e-mail messages below.. Has anyone else recieved anything from this person?? The e-mail was origanally about my 7 year old QH stallion(who is for stud not sale)

hi,
i am glad you replied my mail.i am okay with your offering price $225 and i would like to believe that the horse is in a good condition.
i have a shipper and a vet doctor who would be responsible for the transportation to my location in england.so you do not have to worry about that.
as regard payments,a client of mine would be making payments to you through money order.kindly get back to me if this is okay by you.i would be expecting your reply.thanks



On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:00 PM, mary greer <barrelracer73533@cowboyway.com> wrote:

Hi,
He is not trained in any way. He is not halter broke or broke to the saddle. BUT he is gentil, You can pet and love on him he just doesnt know anything at all. He has had a halter on 1 time. and he is short. Here is his picture, The last offer on him was $225. Thank you for your intrest

Mary


--- franklenal@gmail.com wrote:

From: "frank lenal" <franklenal@gmail.com>

To: barrelracer73533@cowboyway.com
Subject: description
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:47:00 +0100


hello
thanks for your reply to my email.the horse that you have for sale,can you give me a brief description and details of it including a picture and the last offer price.expecting your reply


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM, mary greer <barrelracer73533@cowboyway.com> wrote:

Hello,
The only horse I have listed at this point is for a stud service only, I do however have a 2 year old stallion for sale.
Thank you
Mary Greer

--- franklenal@gmail.com wrote:

From: "frank lenal" <franklenal@gmail.com>
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
Subject: YOUR HORSE FOR SALE
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:34:56 +0100


GREETINGS TO YOU
I WOULD LIKE TO BUY YOUR HORSE YOU PLACED FOR SALE.
KINDLY GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR LAST OFFERING PRICE FOR THE HORSE
IF IT IS STILL AVAILABLE.
KIND REGARDS
FRANK LENAL
EMAIL:franklenal@gmail.com
TEL:+447024085741/+447024086850
--
MARKETING REPRESENTATIVE
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 837
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have babies for sale every spring, and get these mails all the time. They are scams. If it sounds like someone doesn't know what they're talking about, it's probably a scam....anything where they say they've already decided they want it, and ask for your bottom dollar....I usually put a strange title or name in the subject line of ads...then when people write to you about your horse named: "BEST OFFER IN AUGUST TAKES HER"...You know it's computer generated. I have found that scammers are mainly on NetEquestrian.com....and I usually don't pick them up anywhere else.
 

Phyllis Schroder
Breeding Stock
Username: Shadowbend

Post Number: 120
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mary,
I'd say scammer for sure. I've gotten many of these in the past and it amazes me how they want to purchase a horse without asking any pertinent questions, without coming to see him in person or so much as speak to me over the phone.
They are always from someone overseas and they always have their own transportation and so on.

If you reply I would be certain to make it understood that the money order must be for the exact amount of agreed purchase price, made out directly to you and must clear the bank and funds be deposited to your account before the horse can set one foot off the property. Chances are you'll never hear from them again.

I haven't used net equestrian but think most of mine came from dreamhorse.com. I usually just delete them and don't reply but on the few occasions I have replied the above method proved to get rid of them.
 

Mary Greer
Breeding Stock
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 118
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana and Phyllis,
We will see what he does here are the 2 replies I sent back to him this morning. I have not gotten anything back as of yet,I will let everyone know when I do.

The first one::
I am sorry, I only accept cash in US dollars. I do prefer to meet the buyers and require a contract and bill of sale to be signed. I love that you have a vet in charge of shipping but I cannot allow this as you have not met the horse so you cant know if you really want him or not. He does not lead on a halter or anything so it would be had to quarentine before shipping over seas. I do know the horse has to be quarentiened before and after leaving the United States. Now if you would like to travel here and meet in person with cash payment and pick The horse up yourself that is fine with me. Thank you

2nd one:: (I sent it immediately after the first)
Hello again, I forgot to include in my last email that my colt is in very good condition and needs no special treatments or feeds, Just normal feed and hay will do just fine for him.I would like to know the name of the shipper and vet that would be in charge of his shipping. Also I would very much appreciate photos of the stable he will be in and the feild he will have access to. Also what do you plan to use him for? Will he be gelded or left as a stallion? What are your training methods? If you plan to use a training professional could I have his or her name so that I can contact and let them know how the horse responds to different ways of training? Sorry for so many questions I just like to know what kind of people my horses are being adopted by. Thank you again
 

Bobbi Govro
Breeding Stock
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 711
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mary: I have gotten those ads as well. My responses have been from the US (OK to be exact) but these are mass shippers of the meat market. I was horrified that my babies would be sent to the nearest Alpo plant via a crammed livestock semi. I don't even respond to these folks anymore...well, I do...but it goes something like a cleaned up version of "You can't afford my horses!" LOL!
 

Mary Greer
Breeding Stock
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 119
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well the last e-mails I sent were apparently asking too many questions so he has not responded back. I would never even think of doing that to my babies! I hate people like that I couldnt even imagine it.
 

Bobbi Govro
Breeding Stock
Username: Hh_farms

Post Number: 715
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good going Mary! That's the best way to handle it! Backed them right on off.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1140
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scam for sure youll loose your horse and money as the check isnt good i get about 50 of them a wk when i have horses listed. never take anything but cash or money order in person. my responce is CASH in hand only and i never hear from them again.
 

AG
Yearling
Username: Tilly

Post Number: 62
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've had many of these also, and from what I believe they send a false cheque or money order for more than the agreed price, and when you send back a real cheque for the difference they make off with your money before you realise the cheque you were sent was useless. or something to that effect. They have no interest in getting anywhere near your horse.
 

Cjskip
Breeding Stock
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 703
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, I think AG is right. And this takes place with other ads as well. My daughter had a similar e-mail from someone who wanted to rent her room and they lived overseas. They wanted to arrange payment, without any pictures or anything. Probably would send bad check and then back out, asking for a return of their money. The bad typing is a tip off too.

But maybe with horses they are in the meat business. Shoot, all they have to do is put an ad in the paper and they'd get plenty of "cheap" or "free" horses these days.



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