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Laurie A Beltran
Breeding Stock
Username: Prophecy_ranch

Post Number: 226
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JOS,
My mare foaled on 05/07/08 at 10:43 pm after being in stage 1 for 24 hours, delivery was textbook, she expelled everything at the same time it was evaluated 2 days later by my vet. Right before delivery I noticed alot of idema under her belly all the way to her udders I chalked it up to her pregnancy. Spring didnt have much signs during her pre delivery,she bagged up the day of foaling. Everything went fine I helped just a little. when she tried to get up she collaspsed 3 times finally on the last try she did get up I noticed her back legs where quivering, again I thought she's sore. This was really hard on her for her age (22 years old)My concern was she was so sore she couldn't move, she pivoted around her right hind she is in a 24x24 she has been only having a bowel movement }a day she is not eating to much she is drinking TG. Vet had to introveinously give her banamine, she is on full dose now. NO Temp, Good Gut sounds- I walk her 3x day due to her pitted adema which has gone down some, still not eating great! Now here is what the Vet Thinks Pre Pubic Ventral Ruputured Ligament?? She has progressed slowly...I just want to know have you heard of this? If so what can I do to inprove her overall condition? Is walking her ok? She still grunts a little when I do I am also masaaging her idema 3x per day.

JOS! Any Suggestions??
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 1907
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is an article on abdominal musculature ruptures in the pregnant mare in the articles section (follow that link).

Without actually looking at the animal it would be impossible to comment, so if you are not comfortable with your current vets diagnosis, you would be well advised to get a second opinion form a second vet who can evaluate her.
 

Laurie A Beltran
Breeding Stock
Username: Prophecy_ranch

Post Number: 228
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jos! Today she finally looks better walking eating and pooping! I think after reading the above article I don't think that's what the problem was it might have been a ventral rupture in any case she is being monitored!
 

Marilyn Lemke - Dora due 7/31/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 1334
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Laurie, it looks like you mare is on the road to recovery. Yippee! I'm very happy to hear the good news. How's that new filly doing? More pictures please, when you have a chance.
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 1561
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Laurie~I am so happy to hear that Spring is coming around. When you get some time post pics of your new little one!
 

Laurie A Beltran
Breeding Stock
Username: Prophecy_ranch

Post Number: 229
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*********JOS*********
I'VE UPLOADED HER BELLY AS OF YESTERDAY? wHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS? I REALIZE YOUR NOT A VET i JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT HER IDEMA, IT HAS GONE DOWN AND SHE IS WALKING BETTER AND EATING!

http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/equinewmn/?action=view&current=springsu mmer.jpg

THIS WAS TAKEN RIGHT BEFORE SHE HAD HER BABY!
http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/equinewmn
/?action=view&current=042408spring1.jpg

THANKS JOS!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 1910
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I said above "
Without actually looking at the animal it would be impossible to comment
" I guess I should have been a little more specific... :-)

Without actually physically examining} the animal it would be impossible to comment.

In order to evaluate pitting edema to be such, one has to press on it to "pit" it. Additionally, ultrasound is commonly used to determine presence of abdominal tears and damage.

Still can't comment... sorry! If you have doubts, then get your vet back out or get a second opinion form another vet (who can examine the mare!:-))
 

Laurie A Beltran
Breeding Stock
Username: Prophecy_ranch

Post Number: 230
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Will get Vet back out.

Thanks
 

Marilyn Lemke - Dora due 7/31/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 1340
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Laurie, how's your mare doing? Has the vet come out yet? Please let us know what the vet says, I worry about her. Thanks, Marilyn
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 1580
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Laurie...I am right her with Marilyn wanting an update...How is Spring and Summer?
 

Laurie A Beltran
Breeding Stock
Username: Prophecy_ranch

Post Number: 235
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi You Two!
Well I'm happy to say SPRING is on the road to recovery. She is eating better and pooping better most of her idema is going way way down.

Jan, You were right No Pre Pubic Rupture-TG!

Vet informed me that the pregnancy was harder on her due to her age!

Thanks for all your concern
 

Marilyn Lemke - Dora due 7/31/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 1349
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm glad to hear that. I'm guessing no more kids for Spring?
 

Laurie A Beltran
Breeding Stock
Username: Prophecy_ranch

Post Number: 236
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are correct, At his point Spring has earned the right to go into retirement, although yesterday I saw her eyeing my stallion! She is about to come in heat!

LOL
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 1593
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Laurie~PTL....so glad that Spring is recovering...You were blessed with a perfect little filly :-) So relieved that it was not the other! Just takes the old girls a little time to bounce back. I know even my mare at 17 years old had a tougher time so she is done too....
We can enjoy watching our fillies grow up together..mine 9 months ahead of yours and hopefully Marilyn's following yours :-)



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