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Regumate? JOS

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jamie neel
Nursing Foal
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 19
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello everyone!

i have a quick question. i have an older broodmare, she is 23 this year. she has had four foals previously, last one was 6 years ago. for her first three pregnancies she had to be put on regumate so that she wouldnt abort the pregnancy, but on the fourth foal she didnt. since it has been so long since she carried a foal, does that mean that she will probably be back to needing the regumate? would it be better to just put her on it until 120 days since it is proven to work with her?

she has already had a culture/cytology that came back clean. the vet said she has a nice tone uterus and shouldnt have any problems there..

thanks
jamie
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 3133
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you know she needed the Regumate so "she wouldn't abort" on the first three pregnancies?

Seeing as the chances are good she didn't need it for the first three...

Read our article about progestin supplementation for more information.
 

jamie neel
Nursing Foal
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 20
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she aborted several. i am in contact with her original owners and they said that she caught the first time they bred her every time, but that unless she had regumate she lost the pregnancies.

jamie
 

Jos
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Post Number: 3136
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 03:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why did she abort? What did the necropsies show?

Regumate is not the cure-all! It would for instance have no impact if the abortions were related to EHV-1.
 

jamie neel
Weanling
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 21
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont know that info. she lost them all within the first 30 days as far as i know. i dont believe that necropsies were ever done. once they started to put her on the regumate she never lost another one (or at least that is what ive been told)

jamie
 

Jos
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Post Number: 3138
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Loss within the first 30 days is considered embryonic death, not abortion, and can be caused by a myriad of things that have no connection to Regumate use. One of the most common factors for embryonic death is a uterine inflammatory situation - commonly caused by the breeding itself - and which can be managed with a few dollars worth of oxytocin correctly used (follow that link for details). While I obviously cannot say that is a definite cause of loss for your mare, it is probably worth considering that we breed a huge number of mares each year and very rarely (read once every couple of years) use Regumate to maintain a pregnancy, and when we do, it's for a specific known cause such as an incompetent cervix.

As we said in the article: "if you don't know why you're using Regumate, you probably shouldn't be using it" - at least, that's the philosophy we follow... :-)
 

jamie neel
Weanling
Username: Ladyfaile15

Post Number: 22
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 03:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, after talking to you, think i may just wait and see what happens. we are already planning on the full oxytocin regument and flushing too.

we shall see!
jamie



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