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60 day ultrasound - foal smaller than to be expected

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Debbie Burnett
Breeding Stock
Username: Horselady

Post Number: 137
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the vet out to do a pregnancy check by ultrasound at around day 60 for my mare. She lost her foal last year by the same stud at around 3-4 months.

The vet told me that the "foal" was smaller than it should be at that gestation, though I don't know by how much.

Friends of mine have said that maybe the mare needs to be hand bred and not AI'd to hold onto a foal (her first foal was no problem and arrived at day 339). Second foal AI'd and Lost, and now this one which looks like it is going down the same path as last years.

Another opinon was that maybe this mare and the stallion were not a good match and it was nature's way of keeping a foal from being born.. Any opinions?

Is that anything that I can do or feed her to fatten this baby up before it is born?

She is on grain and free choice hay, and all the water she will drink. She gets TizWhiz Broodmare 1 lb, and 1/2 lb of the 12% mix, twice a day, plus the free choice hay and lots of water.

Any ideas? I would hate to lose another foal off this mare again this year if there is anything I can do to prevent it.
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 892
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Friends of mine have said that maybe the mare needs to be hand bred and not AI'd to hold onto a foal

Rubbish! Pregnancy and foaling rates are actually higher with AI than live cover.

Another opinon was that maybe this mare and the stallion were not a good match and it was nature's way of keeping a foal from being born.. Any opinions?

Yup - also rubbish! If there was a stallion incompatibility the pregnancy loss would occur at the earliest pregnancy stages, not once there are billions of cells reproduced!

Is that anything that I can do or feed her to fatten this baby up before it is born?

It's up to the mare to "fatten up" the gestating fetus, and if there is insufficient nutritional transfer in utero there is really nothing one can do about it. In the event that the mare does abort, it would be worth (a) having the fetus and placental tissus necropsied to determine if there was a problem with the fetus; and (b) a uterine biopsy perfomed on the mare before rebreeding to determine if there was a problem related to the uterus.
 

Debbie Burnett
Breeding Stock
Username: Horselady

Post Number: 139
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jos. Will do my best to keep an eye on her. She is now 3 months along. Last year we did not find any foal to necropsy but I walk her paddock every morning and night just to be sure I don't miss it if she does abort. I guess I will just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.,
 

Jennifer D
Nursing Foal
Username: Jennifer

Post Number: 18
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos,

A question reguarding your reply about stallion incompatibility... My mare has lost two fetuses very early in pregnancy. The first was deteriorating at 16 day check and the 2nd was after the 16 day check sometime before the 30 day check. Could this be related to a compatibility issue? All else normal with this mare except she was determined to be hypo thyroid last year (this was when she lost the first of the two and since has been treated for hypothyroidism)
 

Jos
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Stallion incompatability" generally refers to what is also known as "antisperm antibody production". This is where - as it sounds - antibodies against the sperm are produced. Consequently one is not going to get fertilisation.

Your mare sounds like a pretty typical case of EED or ED. Pre- Peri and Post-breeding work-ups for fertility issues, especially those relating to endometritis (the leading cause of EED) would probably be of value.
 

Jennifer D
Nursing Foal
Username: Jennifer

Post Number: 19
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos,

I thought that she wouldn't have any fertilization if that was the case. Do you have any articles on endometritis that I could read? Thank you.



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