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Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 342
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 04:19 pm: | 
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The vet will be out at 7:30 tonight. I will let you all know. Thanks for the continued support!  Wish me luck! |
Jenn
Breeding Stock
Username: Jenn
Post Number: 186
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 05:43 pm: |
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Stormy, we are all waiting to hear the news.  |
Joanna
Breeding Stock
Username: Joanna
Post Number: 151
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:28 am: |
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Any news yet? |
Marci Nadler
Weanling
Username: Shadowsfire
Post Number: 22
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:34 am: |
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Waiting with bated breath. |
Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy
Post Number: 172
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:42 am: |
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Stormy indicated in another post that it might be morning before she posts. I hope she isn't posting because she is disappointed. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 346
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:56 am: |
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Honestly, there is no news to tell. I just got home and sorry to disappoint, but I am too. The thing is, I got there early like I said I would and waited and waited. At nearly eight I decided to check my cell phone for messages because I saw it was roaming (the property is out of town and only occasionally picks up a cell site). There was a message from the vet's wife on there wanting me to verify that I was on the property with Missy but it was an hour after she called me. I called her back and she said they would come as soon as they could and they made it a little before dark. Doc says he's not sure on anything without a palpation and will only do that at his house because he has a shute there. He wasn't even able to touch Missy tonight. I had wanted to get her on the lead rope before he arrived but my husband told me to wait and I listened to him. I knew better, since Missy is scared of strangers, especially men since the way she was bred, but I waited anyway. I couldn't catch her once Doc went down to check her out. So we are here, where we need to make an appointment for a palpation and pay MORE money which my hubby is a little po'd about since things are so tight! I would rather have heard a FOR SURE YES OR NO! I'm going to see what I can do to come up with the palpation money but tonight alone cost me just for the call. Sorry  |
Joanna
Breeding Stock
Username: Joanna
Post Number: 152
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 01:17 am: |
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That is too bad Stormy, I can imagine how dissapointed you are. 
Did the vet say if she looked at all pregnant, or give you any idea what he thought of the whole situation? And what did Missy look like tonight? Has her belly dropped, did you see any movement, is she acting different?
Hoping for some good news in the morning,
Joanna |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 347
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 01:53 am: |
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I am lost right now. I could handle NO! I could handle YES but what I can't handle is being flat broke and paying for a "I DON'T KNOW!" And I thought this would be settled tonight. I have been crying because I am SO frustrated only because I still don't know a thing. What he said is "she is small compared to other mares who ARE pregnant; she MIGHT be pregnant, she MIGHT NOT be and I will only know for sure with a palpation which I only do at my house." He did say she is the most beautiful Mustang he has ever seen and looks like she could be a great horse! What he did leave me with, besides a bill, is that she could have been bred later than I think on a surprise date and could very well be pregnant, just not as far along as I think but HE has never seen this long of a gestation before, if that was the "only" breed date. I left that open for a possibility. That really is all and everything I know to tell. I am sorry I can't give something more. I am spent! |
Marci Nadler
Weanling
Username: Shadowsfire
Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 02:44 am: |
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Wow, that is frustrating. I'm so sorry. |
Marci Nadler
Weanling
Username: Shadowsfire
Post Number: 24
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 02:51 am: |
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Hey look at what I found...http://www.equiworld.net/uk/ezine/0303/promar.htm |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 348
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 03:17 am: |
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Thanks Marci, It is! I feel like I've been hit in the gut. I just knew the waiting was going to be over today and had butterflies in my stomach all afternoon, watching the clock. Everything went wrong from my friend who was going to help me with Missy not showing up to me missing the vet's call to him being late, to not finding ANYTHING out, to paying for nothing! I am sorry if I sound a little bitter. I'm afraid I am and I hate feeling like this! I just want to know! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 349
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 03:22 am: |
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Thank you for the info Marci. I may just try that! Is there ANYTHING else any of you know of that can tell me at least partially for sure, besides the nail test (which said yes and filly, but could just be a game thing)until I can get her in for the palpation? I am now more stressed than ever! |
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 492
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 09:36 am: |
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Sorry, Stormy...I can not imagine what it is like not to have reliable, professional help nearby. I suddenly feel very fortunate. Do you own a trailer or how can you get her to him? Is that even an option? |
Jenn
Breeding Stock
Username: Jenn
Post Number: 187
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 09:40 am: |
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Stormy, I am so sorry. I know what it's like to be strapped financially and then have to throw money at nothing. Hopefully you will know soon. Does your mare have some udder developement? I am hoping for the best for you.
(((((HUGS)))))
Jenn  |
Chasity Price
Yearling
Username: Chasntom
Post Number: 55
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 10:15 am: |
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Man, I'm like Kathee. I'm feeling VERY fortunate to have a GREAT equine specialist that only cherges $17.50 to make a trip to my farm. WOW. I have never heard of a vet who wouldn't palpate on your farm.....wow. I'm going to appreciate my vet man a whole lot more now. (already think he hung the moon!) I"m really sorry stormy. Would have been nice if you'd known he wouldn't palpate before you had him to come. You poor thing . |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 10:17 am: |
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Hey Stormy,
Sorry that you did not find anything out... i was really hoping i would check messages this morning and see a Missy's pregnant thread.
When you called him did you let him know that you wanted him to palpate her to begin with? If you did and he came out and knew you wanted that and then he didn't because he felt uncomfortable than he may not charge you for the next visit or you can get him to give you a discount. But that is only if you told him to begin with that you wanted a palpation...
Seems wierd that he knew you wanted to know IF she was pregnant and the only way you can find out IF one is pregnant is by palpation or blood test at this far along....and then came out and just looked at her. Doesn't seem to be the best vet.
What did he expect? that he was going to come out and ask Missy if she was pregnant and she was going to tell him?!! If that was so you would have known a long time ago...
On the other hand, i thought you said there was no other possible dates because you had already gotten her and knew she had not been bred past the last date you gave us.
I am sorry that you did not find anything out.
I am also afraid if she has NO udder development at this point, you don't have a pregnant mare.. Even if she had been on fescue you would have some sort of an udder by this time and it looks to me, the more i look she is just fat. I'm sorry.
witha realy fat horse you can feel gas and other things moving around in there and you may have mistaken it for a foal. her vulva is not elongated at all which means she is not anywhere close. She did have some awful bites on her rear so that may be why she is rubbing on anything she can find. also horses tend to rub on anything they can find if they can reach the spot with a tail or a leg, so that may be why the face rubbing on everything else.
I sincerely hope she is, but the longer this goes i am doubtingmore and more and not to mention you finally got a vet out there and he doesn't do anything?? You needed to be more assertive and tell him you are paying for him to come out there, you expect him to do something.. he could have taken blood or something or sedated her. Just doesn't sound right!!
Good Luck.i am sorry this is soo long, but had to voice my opinions and again that is all it is...an opinion.. |
Rousseau
Weanling
Username: Epona5
Post Number: 33
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 11:09 am: |
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Like Beverly, if he knew you wanted her palpated, and he doesn't want to do these on site, then why didn't he tell you on the phone ?
on the other hand, maybe he does palpate mares when they are calm, in a stall and with a bale of hay between her and his legs, I do that often, and maybe he thought she would be too difficult for that...
I am really sorry for you, it would have been better if it was No ! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 350
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 01:24 pm: |
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Yesterday when I called, I reached his wife. She is also the one who called my cellphone to make sure I was on the property when I missed the call. It was her I finally reached again when I got the message and called back. What I told her is that I wanted to have my mare checked to see if she was pregnant because the breed date I was given would make her VERY overdue and told her the number of days. I explained that she was bred without my knowledge, much the same as what I've posted. I guess I just figured that he would palpate when he got there. The fact that I didn't listen to my gut and hook her up before hand didn't help anything since we couldn't catch the little brat  so maybe that is why he wouldn't do anything there, because we couldn't even catch her. Missy is shy of men since that breeding being handled the way it was, and never was too fond of them to begin with. I do understand the shute thing for everyone's safety and to make sure the vet can give her a good feel over and then give me a real answer. As far as other breed dates, that is the only one I know of but many people on here and from what I'd heard from other horse owners in town is that a stallion will sometimes jump the fence to get a mare then leave the same way or the owner will just take them back and not say a word, so anything is possible. I'm at a loss other than that! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 352
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 03:45 pm: |
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As far as taking Missy in to the vet for palpation, I do not have a trailer. I can probably get one but she is not trailer trained at all. I am going to try to work these things out and get up the money for the visit but right now I am at a loss and feel pretty numb. I am just praying for a sign that she's either not pregnant or a foal to drop just to have it over with! My biggest mistakes last night were not knowing what to expect, therefore not asking outright on the phone for a palpation, and not hooking her up before the vet got there. I think the outcome was in all honesty, my fault as much as his. The only good that came from it all is that I have gotten very close with my mare again through this "pregnancy" and that will be the same whether she is pregnant or not. I would love to have a baby out of her but either way, if Missy's ok then I'm ok. I would just like to know one way or another so that I can move on from here and either expect a foal or start exercising the crap out of the little fatty! and finish my training so that I can make her into the good horse the vet says she has the potential to be! Again, thanks for the support. At this point, I am not quitting or giving up but you may not seen me on the forum quite as often, although I will check in from time to time. I am going to try to get back to my normal everyday life and leave it in God's hands until I can do something about getting her in for the palpation. Who knows, maybe I'm not supposed to know and just have faith that this will all work out pregnant or not!? |
Marci Nadler
Weanling
Username: Shadowsfire
Post Number: 25
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 05:20 pm: |
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At this point I would go ahead and start exercising her. Free lunging and round pen work and things like that will not be that hard on her even if she is pregnant. Now I'm not saying it would be OK to go out for a 2 hour ride or workout (wouldn't be good for ANY out of shape horse) but I don't think a little light work will hurt her either way-and it might tone her up so she doesn't look pregnant anymore and then you would have your answer.
All but my last foal I rode the mares right up until a week or two of foaling. The only reason I didn't with the last is because I have gotten so heavy myself I didn't want to overstress the mares back. |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 142
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 06:41 pm: |
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Hi Stormy,
Don't mean to sound sooo condescending, but if she is not trailer trained why would you "try' to get money up for palpation.. If you can't get her there and he won't do it at your place, then whats the visit for?
I know you want her pregnant and i know you just said leave it in god's hands, but what if she is pregnant and something is wrong witht he foal and you loose both of them.. You owe it to Missy to call that vet and make him palpate at your house with Missy under sedation or you find another vet...
that is all there is to it....
Sorry you won't be on the boards as much. even though missy may not be pregnant, i had fun learning all i could and helping out any way i could...
Good Luck with Missy and hopefully a baby foal... Either way I would excercise her. She still has that cresty neck which means she is way over weight... Cut out the alfalfa all together.. just grass hay is all she needs. doesn't even need grain.. And since you don't know if she is pregnant She doesn't need the "extra" food that she would be getting if she were pregnant... |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 354
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 07:09 pm: |
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Hi Beverly, My husband's family has friends not too far away that have a horse trailer and they would possibly be willing to help us transport Missy to the vet. Talking with them and getting up the money is what I meant by "while I figure these things out" We got a stubborn doneky into that very same trailer so I think we might be able to do it with my headstrong Mustang I'm not giving up yet! As far as feed goes, I have weaned out the grain all together. She hasn't had any for nearly a week now. We have also done the switch from alfalfa to grassy, as they just don't carry the other two types you suggested. That was mixed with the alfalfa as we made the switch but she has been on nothing but grassy since Sunday. The rations have also been cut back. I had started to cut them a few weeks ago and dropped even more over the past week or so. The days have all began to run together but I would say the feeding has been reduced and switched over the last three weeks. I am going to post one picture from over the weekend and just see if you can tell any difference. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 355
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 07:21 pm: |
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Ok, I lied...two pictures. They were taken Sunday. The first is of Missy with her new love the quad I will also take some this weekend just to see if you can tell whether she's losing weight or not 
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Megan A Brown
Breeding Stock
Username: Fabmeg
Post Number: 140
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 01:03 pm: |
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Looks like shes lost a little Stormy. I think her hindend doesn't look nearly as fat. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 358
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 02:01 pm: |
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Thanks Megan, I thought she had lost a little too but it's hard to tell when you're with them a lot. I did feel that her crest isn't nearly as hard. I was able to pinch skin at the root of the mane (if that description makes any sense)where it had been solid before. I guess a better way to describe it is that I ran my thumb and forefinger up the crest in her neck while squeezing as my fingers slid up and then they pinched ahold of looser skin there at the top. She has been full of it lately and has been sprinting for a while each day I'm with her, making a game out of it. I think the exercise has been good for both of us! She will prance the gate until I come in, nickering at me like "come on, let's play!" I'll stomp my foot playfully at her and she will start walking in circles, so I go in and she takes off to the other end. She will wait for me to walk near her and then she prances on by. She thinks it's funny. We always do it in a playful manner and it is very different than when it's business and I am going to hook her up on the lead rope. Besides the day the vet was out, I never have a problem getting her to hook up. She seems to know when it's a game or when it's time to come to me. I have decided to start up her training again. At this point, I won't get on her until I'm able to find out whether she's pregnant or not for sure but I will start putting the blanket and saddle on and lunging her for a little while at a time. I will try to get pics tonight for comparison on body structure and weight loss. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 361
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 01:17 am: |
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Here are some pictures of Missy from today and yesterday (the four from yesterday are first, then four from today). {First pic is of her hip area where it is becoming flabby. I have my fingers pushing down in the soft flesh} We have started our training again and I am happy to report that all is going well! She seems eager to pick up where we left off.
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Jenn
Breeding Stock
Username: Jenn
Post Number: 195
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:08 am: |
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Stormy, does Missy have any udder developement yet? |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 363
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 01:38 pm: |
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Sunday's pics. I just haven't had time to post them until now.
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Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 364
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 01:41 pm: |
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Jenn~ to answer your question, Missy's teats had changed shape on Sunday and felt fuller right above the teat itself. I tried to get pics but my camera just won't pick up the under shots. I even tried the flash and came up with nothing. I am going out today so I will try again. |
Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1
Post Number: 120
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 01:54 pm: |
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Hi Stormy,
Glad to see you back on line. Missy looks good. She sure is a pretty girl. How are you doing? Hanging in there. How is her back to work going? My mare was inseminated on Saturday and I will find out if she is pregnant on June 21st.
Hope you have a good day!
Jan |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 365
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 02:51 pm: |
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Hi Jan,
I have been wondering how things are going with you and your mare. I am glad to hear she got the AI over with. I hope she took!
Thank you. Missy seems to be doing fine. She has picked back up on the training real well! I haven't seen her since Sunday but am going out tonight. I am trying to hang in there. I wish we had better vet service here in town, that's for sure! Right now, I am just trying to leave it in God's hands until I can do something else. I have to admit, my patience is wearing real thin these days but I'm trying. That's all I can do!
I hope all works out well for you and your mare. Good luck!  |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 369
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 07:09 pm: |
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For those still sticking it out with me....THANKS! I am on my way to see my girl. I'll have an update tonight |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 370
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 01:42 am: |
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Well, I pleased to say that Missy's training is going great above all else! She seems just fine and although I have noticed a body shape difference since I dropped the feed, her belly is getting bigger if anything! Here are some pics from tonight.
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Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 371
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 02:00 am: |
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Well, since the pretty girl picture above didn't turn out, I will post it again. Now I'm bragging! The thing is (and I know it's not a big deal for most horses but for Missy it is) that I have been able to brush her lately without hooking her up to the lead rope so she is shiny and pretty!
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Marci Nadler
Weanling
Username: Shadowsfire
Post Number: 30
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 02:38 am: |
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Can you take a picture of her like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/shadowsfire/fatshadowteats5-17-06.jpg
You can tell a lot of how soon they will foal by milk bar pictures. As you can tell by this ne-my mare is no where close. |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 145
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Hi Stormy,
Missy is looking better.. she has lost a little weight. Her belly looks the same from the side view, but from the back view it does not stick out anymore.. the hay looks really green that you are feeding. is it still alfalfa? If it's not is sure is pretty hay....
Vulva is still not elongated..Does she have any udder at all?
congratulations on passing that barrier of brushing without haltering!!
Even if she isn't pregnant, this time you spend with her is working wonders. Good Luck! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 372
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 03:57 pm: |
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Hi Beverly, Thanks
The pictures from behind were taken yesterday and Missy wass standing parked out in the rear with her front legs up on a ledge which is quite a bit higher than her hind end. That is probably why she looks so flat in the sides from the rear. Here are a few picture taken on Saturday and Sunday of last weekend from the rear on flatter ground. She is walking in these but on the trails through her pasture is where the ground is most level.
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The hay is Grassy Alfalfa. It is really green and smells good. The crops have been good this year I guess...but I could not find either of those other types of hay you suggested. I have cut out the grain all together though and she hasn't had any at all in the past couple of weeks. As far as udder, I don't know why I can't get the pictures to turn out. I have even tried the flash but come up with a blur and nothing more. Feeling wise, the area above the teats seems fuller and the teats themselves have changed shape in the way they hang.
The training has been going great! We have worked on quite a few things and she is picking it right back up. The time I've been able to put into her has made a world of difference! My favorite of all is the "come" command where I tell her "Missy, come" and she walks right to me so I can grab her halter. When I went to brush her yesterday, she actually started to walk away and I told her to come. She walked slower but kept going until I said in a stern, not loud, voice "Missy, COME!" and she turned to look at me then came right back and stood out straight for me to brush her. She never moved a muscle until I was done with everything including her tail. It took a while too because I used the pre-grooming and finishing brush and then the tail brush. The next thing I want to accomplish is being able to get the halter on and off without a problem. That way I can leave it off. I do know the dangers involved with leaving it on and that bothers me but the way she has always been, it's get it on and leave it or fight...that is going to change! |
Susan Lea
Nursing Foal
Username: Brandysgrandma
Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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Stormy, with point-and-shoot cameras, the focus distance is pre-set. If you get too close, the pictures will be out of focus. Can you try to take a picture from a little farther away, say, from by her forelegs? The udder will be smaller in the picture, but should at least be in focus.
I've been following your story since April and was so upset lately when we lost our internet connection for a week--no idea what was going on with Missy! I can't imagine how you've held on so long, but I'm wishing you both the best! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 385
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 01:47 am: |
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Thanks Susan, for the info on the camera and the support! Our girl seems to be doing fine. Her belly changes shape often. Some days she looks wide as can be and like she'll pop then the next, she'll look slim from the front and rear. I don't know what's up with that! She did have some strange belly shapes today but I didn't have my camera handy. It was to where I could see her rib then she had a huge indention and her belly was hanging low, then she filled back out in the flank. Hard to describe but I wish I had got that camera shot! I will try that with the udder like you suggested. It has only been recently that I can crawl under her. I (my lil secret) use to have the gate between us and try it but since I've been working with her, I can just go in and do whatever I want pretty much! 
Well, I'll keep the updates coming for everyone who's interested! |
Marci Nadler
Weanling
Username: Shadowsfire
Post Number: 37
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:55 am: |
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LOL my mares tummy does that too! I swear I get the camera out and I have to chase the bulge around my mare! LOL
I don't get under my mare for boobie shots I use my phone camera and put it aiming up towards those little titties and snap away. Or from the side shots put it at the flank, although you might have to step back a step with your camera. I find though that the digatals work better the closer I get, more in focas-andlet me tell you mine is the cheapest. So take a whole bunch and see if you can get one decent shot out of the bunch.
I know my mares bag was not as big today as yesterday but then they do go up and down before staying swollen with milk. Good Lord I sure hope so. I hope I get some prewarning.
I noticed today that my mare has started with the tail scratchings on our tiny tree in her corral, hope it survives. I took her out and gave her a bath and I know that flys or skeeters weren't a problem at that time. But now she is sparkly clean everywhere. In the sun blindingly so.
So the wait continues- for both of us. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 386
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 04:16 am: |
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Here's to keeping up the foal watch with ya Marci!  |
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock
Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 478
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:28 pm: |
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Stormy, how far are you now? |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 388
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:30 am: |
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Kim, I've lost count! I will get back to you on that  |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 389
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:37 am: |
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well, Missy was in an annoyed mood today. I made an unexpected trip out to the property so I went and saw her for a while. I didn't have much time but I noticed that she was acting a little more rambunctious than usual, especially more than she has been lately. She was running about the pasture and tossing her head at times. She didn't want to be handled much, which is just the opposite of how she's been acting. I couldn't really stay long enough to tell what was going on but she ate fine when I fed her and I was able to get some pictures. I am going back on Wednesday. Things have been really busy lately but our training has been going well (besides today, which was partially my fault for not having more time)so I'm pleased with that!
I'll post pics in a few.... |
Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy
Post Number: 180
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:43 am: |
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Stormy do you have a vet appointment made so you can finally quite worrying and waiting this year?
I hope so, I hate seeing you so anxious and uptight!!!! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 390
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:54 am: |
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Here are the pictures from tonight
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Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 391
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 01:07 am: |
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Thanks Cathy. I wish I could say yes but to say things have been tight would be a major understatement! I haven't really wanted to get into this much but it might help some to understand. My husband is the only one working and he even missed some work recently due to being sick. We have both picked up odd side jobs the last few days just to make ends meet and keep on the lights and the rent paid. Without going into the whole thing...that's where we're at which is partially why I'm so uptight. I'm also reeling from a very long weekend with family in town and on top of everything, one of my two year olds flipped over head down yesterday in a floatie in her wading pool and was hidden behind the other kids. I did see her and managed to get her out of the water but it scared the hell out of me and her! Then the thing with Missy on top of it all has added some stress. I am hoping to make a vet appointment just as soon as I can squeeze some blood out of a turnip! (j/k) but really, hopefully soon. Seems like when it rains, it POURS!!! I'm hanging in the best I can  |
Jenn
Breeding Stock
Username: Jenn
Post Number: 202
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 01:01 pm: |
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Good luck and best wishes Stormy. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 393
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 02:17 pm: |
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Thanks Jenn |
Susan Lea
Nursing Foal
Username: Brandysgrandma
Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:28 pm: |
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Stormy, my deepest sympathy for all the stress you're under. It's amazing you can even stay sane with all that going on. That's so scary about your 2 year old. When one of my daughters was 18 months old, she walked off the side of a pool in the deep end after I had--stupidly--asked someone else to watch her!!! Never again! By God's grace a 10 year old girl saw her and jumped in and pulled her out! I know how scared you must have felt. Hope it helps to know that we're all rooting for you and Missy and hoping everything will work out. |
Jan H
Breeding Stock
Username: Jan_h
Post Number: 342
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:58 pm: |
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Stormy I am so thankful that your two year old is alright! Thank God for that. As far as missy is concerned I pray that she is NOT pregnant, sounds like you are not really in the position to care for the financial burden of a foal, vet costs for its care such as shots deworming as well as the IGg check and after foaling exam of the mare could further burden you financially. Sounds like this may just be a blessing in disguise (if she comes up open) hope you see it that way too. HANG IN THERE! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 394
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 01:45 am: |
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Susan~ Thanks. Sounds like things turned out ok for both of us, but how scary it is! You had a 10 year old angel on watch that day!
Hi Jan~ I have been wondering where you've been...haven't heard from you in a while. It's nice to hear from you again! I know what you're saying..... We usually aren't in as hard of times as we've been but some things have happened this year to set us back. Hopefully it's only temporary! Either way, I'm trying to keep my chin up. Missy seems to be doing fine. Not much to report but I will once I have some news either way. I have made some really cool friends on here so I'll be sticking around!
For those of you who read and don't post...just say hi every now and then so I'll know you're out there! |
Kerri
Neonate
Username: Kerrit
Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:48 am: |
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Hi Stormy.
I've been following your story, and I'm glad that your mare seems to be okay. My maiden mare Cricket (she's at 343 days today) came down with a case of Strangles on monday. It seems to be very mild (hardly any snot, only coughs 2 or 3 times at night, and no swollen lymph nodes) so we're hoping she gets over it ASAP and has the baby! I think it's wonderful that you've started your training back up w/ Missy. She's is sooo beautiful and seems like such a wonderful horse. I'm sure she's going to go far. My mare Cricket is half Mustang, and she is the most wonderful, athletic horse I've had, so I know how very special they are. It also took me a loooong time and lots of "training" to get her to trust me, but now she's just like a puppy dog (a very FAT puppy dog LOL) So keep up the good work!! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 395
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 02:28 pm: |
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Thank you for the kind words Kerri.
I hope Cricket gets well real soon and has that baby for you! I do believe Mustangs are special horses. They can also be more difficult to work with, especially with getting them over their fear and tendency to take flight every time they spook, but it's well worth it! Missy has been doing real well with the training. I got the saddle blanket on her the other day without ever once hooking her up on the lead. She walked away when I first sat the blanket on her back but I told her to come and she did. It was a big step for her. I use to have to hook her up on the lead rope and then fight her to be still so I could put the blanket on. It helps that I've learned a few new tricks along the way! I start every day the same, brushing her all over before doing anything else. She now knows what to expect with that, so that's where I start and then I add new steps following the brushing. She is more receptive that way than if I just went in and started trying something new. It takes patience but the payoff is huge! Congrats on getting Cricket trained! I love her name by the way! |
Kerri
Neonate
Username: Kerrit
Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:32 pm: |
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Thanks! When we first got her she was broke, but you could barely handle her. I don't know if she was abused or just handled roughly, but it was obvious she was mistreated in some way. You could put a saddle on her back, but couldn't tighten the girth, or pull down the stirrups or do anything like that without her flipping out. She certainly LOVES to bolt at absolutaly nothing when I ride her in the ring(everyone around here thinks she's a little crazy in the head but I still love her!). But she is an amazing trail horse - absolutaly dead quiet on the trail. I made the decision to breed her b/c she has the most amazing movement...she literally seems to float, and she's SUPER athletic (she can jump 2 1/2 feet from a dead standstill), so we bred her to a dead quite stallion hoping the baby will be alittle less flighty then it's mama |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 396
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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Kerri~ I hope you get the quiet natured foal that you want! I honestly don't think that "broke" necessarily means "trained" I have seen quite a few "broke" horses that lacked manners and some were just broken spirited. Missy gets disciplined but she has never been abused by me in anyway, yet she still has that Mustang spunk and sometimes flight. I think she always will. I do hope to accomplish that "dead quiet on the trail" like what you've got with Cricket. A part of me believes that the wild part of the Mustang makes them freak more easily than a domestic horse. It also seems like once they get a flight notion in their head, it's hard to break. The way Missy's breeding was handled alone set me back some. I do have her trust now but it took work. Another thing I personally have learned is that they (at least Missy) seem to be one owner horses. She loves my husband but won't let him command her like I do. It's the same with everyone else too. I am so happy you've been able to make Cricket into an awesome trail horse, it gives me hope! |
Jan H
Breeding Stock
Username: Jan_h
Post Number: 345
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:21 pm: |
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i AM SURE IN TIME EVEN MISSY WILL SETTLE INTO THE ROUTINE OF BEING A GOOD TRAIL HORSE, TRUST GOES A LONG WAY WITH A HORSE AND ONCE TRUST IS CREATED, YOU CAN DO MUCH MORE WITH THEM THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE, I HAVE A MARE WHO WAS A WILD RANGE MARE NEVER HANDLED I GOT HER (Excuse the caps) at age 6 and worked with her for 2 years, she is now one of the sweetest and tamest mares at our place and even allows others to lead her and touch her (something that was a big NO NO a year ago). there is always hope, I find that those type of horses once they develop a trust bond learn very quickly and adapt to change much quicker then a horse which has trusted and had that trust broken by abusive actions of an uncaring owner or inexperienced handler. so hang in there I have faith that as long as you keep that trust in good stead you will make great strides with missy in turning her into a great trail horse! |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 397
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:23 am: |
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Thank you Jan, that means a lot to me! I have missed hearing from you and am glad you're back on. |
Jan H
Breeding Stock
Username: Jan_h
Post Number: 347
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 07:51 am: |
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Thanks Stormy it is great to be back and see you too! ((((Hugs))))) |
Kerri
Nursing Foal
Username: Kerrit
Post Number: 11
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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I agree with Jan. It took me 2 years to get Cricket to trust me completely, and there are still times when she will just absolutaly REFUSE to do something. But they know when you love them, and take care of them that they are safe with you, and that's what makes all the difference. If I were going to give you any advice (and you may already be doing this) it would be to spend as much "quality" time with Missy as you can. Keep up her training and all, but whenever you get the chance just sit out in the field with her and watch her be her, or groom her, or rub her back, or even hook her up on a lead rope and walk around with her. I think that's what really bonds them to you...they begin to really feel like you are a part of their herd, and they rely on you to be there for them and watch over them. Then when you get on her back, she'll feel more like you're a team rather then you're someone forcing her to do something she'd rather not do. It may sound silly, but that's what I did with Cricket and that's when she really started to turn around...when I stopped worried about doing all the training exactly right, and started worrying more about her mindset, and what she was feeling, and just spent a lot of time with and around her. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 399
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 01:10 pm: |
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That's so funny Kerri because those are all of the things I have been doing with Missy. She doesn't live with me but every time I go out, I stay by her. There is a stump that I go sit on quietly and just watch her, the birds and the squirels in the pasture. I brush her and rub her neck, which she loves...she gets her neck bobbing and lips moving. She also loves to be scratched on her front shoulder blade. My husband says she looks more like a puppy dog when I do that! We also go for walks. It's funny because she knows how to lead but when I'm not training and just walking her for fun, it's like she knows. She will get right behind me and walk with her nose to my back but when it's training time, she's all business! Those are the most rewarding moments. The thing I love most is to just go into the pasture and walk along with her as she grazes and does her normal everyday things. She doesn't mind my presence at all and it allows me to see what a beautiful creature she is overall. I'm going to see her this afternoon. I can't wait! |
Bonnie Christian
Neonate
Username: Bonnienin
Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 07:52 pm: |
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I'm still here, Stormy. I check the MB at least once a day and sometimes twice. |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 400
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 01:31 am: |
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Thanks Bonnie. The support helps!
Missy was doing well tonight. We did some leading after her grooming and she did real well. I am going back tomorrow. I'll update you all when I know more.... |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 401
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 02:12 am: |
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Here are some pictures from tonight. I did notice while grooming Missy that her hips seem to jiggle even more than the last time I was out to see her. I wasn't brushing that hard but they would sink in a bit when I'd rub the brush over them. Anyway, here are the pics....
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Emily West
Neonate
Username: Paintlover
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 06:14 pm: |
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Stormy,
I had to just say that although I have been lurking on this forum for a few years I now check almost daily to see if anything is happening with Missy. Keep coming with those updates. Hope everything goes well.
Emily |
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock
Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 402
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 11:53 pm: |
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Thank you Emily and everyone else who has been reading! Now that I know you are all still checking in...I will try to do better on posting! Things have just been hectic lately. You will love these new pictures from today...no tricks, I took these right in the pasture and she was big as a house (for Missy anyway). This is kind of what I've been trying to describe but she changes position so much, it's hard to catch. Sorry everyone...but I'm having some computer trouble tonight...check out my new thread "The Missy Connection" for the pictures. They will be up in a few. This thread is getting long and I'm having trouble, sorry  |
