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Darcie Oakley
Neonate
Username: Dars
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 06:55 pm: | 
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This is not my first foal however it has been 7 years and I never noticed straining on the others. At 7Am I watched my mare give birth to a very late colt. Reflecta Spark AKA Bruiser A black and white paint colt. Everything went smooth and quick. I gave him an enema he went. Hours Later I noticed him back hunched straining so I gave a warm water enema and he went a lot. well it's almost 4 here and I have taken him and mom out to play. But he still seems to be straining once in a while. When he strains not much comes out but he trys frequently. Is a little strain ok? He doesn't seem to be uncomfertable he is nursing, playing, and sleeping. I will be checking on him through the night. However I don't want to be obsessive and go over board and give him another? Should I go ahead and give him another in the morning or late to night if he is still straining?? My vet is on vacation until Monday. Any suggestions? |
Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy
Post Number: 168
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 07:48 pm: |
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Have you seen this foal urinate? If you haven't and he continues to strain I would have him seen ASAP. |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 774
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 01:51 am: |
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I would say if hes nursing and urinating then give him a warm water nd soap enema, adn get it in deep, way in there to help soften the meconium...I am speaking from experience...mine wetn right away, gave him an enema went more, wasa fine all day, that eve strained a bit, but was ok, was urinatinf good and often, by morning he had started shivering, was thrashing and rolling and lethargic...vet out with an emergency call and he had 6 hard meconium balls lodged, i didnt think it was that because he was going, dn it was ornag/yellow watery poop, but upon rectal palpation theywere discoverd,and the vet gave another enema a a little while later a full enema bottle of warm soapy water, about 15 minutes later he shot out he hard stuff adn did goo, he would strain momentarily, and flag his tail, but hte vet said that was from irritation from hte enemas, and to just keep his butt clean and dry, put desitin ointment on hit and watch him...
keep an eye on the poor baby...hope hes ok!!! I know i was terrified when i found mine beginning to crash! |
Darcie Oakley
Neonate
Username: Dars
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 03:23 pm: |
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Still concerned. I have not noticed any straining since last night. I did a soap, warm water enema. I'm now finding normal green baby poops. I cleaned his bottum and put desitin. He is not acting at all uncomfertable actualy quite the rebel today. He has mastered the art of kicking up his heals. No one has seen him urinate including myself. We are all taking turns watching him today. How long after birth should he urinate? How frequent? If he is having a problem wont he start acting uncomfurtable?? What should I watch for? I could be missing it or so I hope. My vet will be here tomorrow AM or so his answering service says. I feel lost without being able to get a hold of my vets. Everyone says I shouldn't worry but I can't help it I havent seen him complete all functions yet. Besides everyone that gives me advice are ranchers they don't beleave in enemas or checking the after birth. |
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 469
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 12:12 pm: |
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Darcie - If you don't watch for them to urinate you probably won't find the evidence. The bedding will suck it right up because it is so much less for a foal than a full grown horse. Watching until you see something is the best plan. The good news is that he may be going regularly and you just haven't seen it. |
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock
Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 427
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 01:18 pm: |
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Darcie - I hadnt seen my baby urinate for 2 days, the vet said if there was a problem it should have shown up quite quickly and he could see no obvious sign of a problem there, just that I should watch for one while I was around her to be sure. Sure enough I have seen three since then and they were all fine!! Think about it - How often do you see your mare pee compared to how often you see her poop, its just less regular so It highly likely you have just missed them all - Try not to panick yet. : ) |
Lindsey
Neonate
Username: Whitcomb
Post Number: 8
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 01:59 pm: |
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our foal in not here yet, but we are getting ready. where can you find the enema's. My vet is a little pre ocupied whith a very large animal crulty case (32 horses) |
Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy
Post Number: 169
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 02:16 pm: |
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Lindsey I use fleet enemas that you can buy at any pharmacy. |
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 475
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 01:32 pm: |
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Lindsey - I used Fleet also. They are inexpensive at at most pharmacies. When you buy them, the clerk will look at you very sympathetically! |
Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy
Post Number: 171
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 07:45 pm: |
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Kathee you ought to see the looks when you go in and buy six.  |
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 480
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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Good point! |
Lindsey
Nursing Foal
Username: Whitcomb
Post Number: 20
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 07:31 pm: |
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For a soap and water enima what kind of soap do you use. I dont want to use something that might be to strong. |
Gynna Meiller
Breeding Stock
Username: Jw_kings_excalibur
Post Number: 125
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 07:32 am: |
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I use a fleet enema as well as a round of PRO BIOTICS!! You need to not only get them going but get some good gut flora going in there as well. The mares colostrum usualy provides the it but some foals still need a jump start.
You can usualy find a tube of the Pro-Biotics at your local feed store and it not very expensive( under $10 and it has directions on it. Its also good for a horse that has had several doses of antibiotics and such to help prevent colic..gynna |
Rousseau
Weanling
Username: Epona5
Post Number: 32
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 08:09 am: |
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you can also dilute a little manure from the mare in it, that's really inexpensive, and it's appropriate ready made flora ! |
