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Breeding on Foal heat

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Roben Grenier
Neonate
Username: Roben

Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard that this is to be avoided. Why?
(other than to give Mom a rest and build back vitamins...)

Thanks for any answers
Roben
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10639
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Potential for lower than normal pregnancy rates.
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 223
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
My mare Annie and her filly are at the stud farm this week. I was told it is okay to breed on the foal heat cycle by my vet.My mare foaled May 3, 2006. My mare went to the stud farm on May 11,2006
The stud farm breed her on May 11,2006 thurs. and May 13, Sat and May 14, Sunday, because the helper grandfather died. My husband is going to try to go help breed her today. I was told to breed her until she kicks him off.We usually breed every other day. What is the best way to make sure she is breed? About how long is a mare in foal heat cycle?I live about 45 min from the the breeder.The stud we are breeding her to is 22yrs old does it matter about the stud's age for breeding. This stud is not breeding to the outside folks next year.You can see the stud on
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e329/MBhorses/ChiefCasanovao/
Thank you for your help.
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 238
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
My mare Annie has been at the stud farm since THURS. May 11,2006. The stud farm has been breeding her every other day since thurs.We are hoping to pick her up today May 19. I taught the foal heat cycle didn't last long. My mare has been in foal heat since may 11,2006. The stud farm last breed her on May 17, 2006. Should the stud farm breed again today, before I pick her up?
Thanks MELISSA
 

Chasity Price
Weanling
Username: Chasntom

Post Number: 32
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Melissa. I'm no expert, but that is a RATHER long foal heat cycle, but as we know, there are NO rules :-). If she's still showing estrus, I'd definately NOT bring her home without having her covered again. I had a mare last year that did not come in foal heat, or 30-day heat but then a week and a half AFTER the 30 day should have happened, she came in heat. Bred her twice (she was in heat for three days) and she is ready to foal ANY time now. I didn't feel like she would have settled with the timing being so "off", but she checked in foal 19 days later and is ready to pop now :-). So as we see there are no rules and just because our mares don't follow the rule books all the time, doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing! Good luck!
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10672
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ideally you should have an ovulation confirmed by ultrasound before you pick your mare up. She may have been showing submissive behavior to the stallion rather than true estrus. Excessive breeding to submissive rather than estrus mares can result in reduced pregnancy rates.
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 241
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The stud farm called this morning, said the mare would not have anything to do with the stud today. I think she didn't actly go in foal heat til Sat May 13, when the foal show signs diarrhea.We took her to the stud farm on Thurs. May 11, the foal was 8 days old.The stud farm breed her that night, she act like she was in season big time. The stud farm breed her again May 13 Sat, the day the foal had signs of diarrhea(does this mean she was not in good on the Thurs?)The stud farm breed my mare again on May 14(because his helper had a death in his family, so he wasn't sure he would be back for the breeding on Monday May 15. )The helper was back on Monday 15 so they breed my mare again, then breed her again on May 17 wed.The stud farm said Wed she did a little kicking, but still let him breed to her(I am guessing maybe she went out then)What do you all think?If my mare was in heat all those days it was 7 days for the heat cycle. They tease her this morning she wouldn't have anything to do with the stud._The stud farm said we could pick my mare and the filly up today, if she didn't breed he will breed her again on the next cycle. I just didn't want to take the mare and filly back again, if I didn't have to. The stud farm says LIVE FOAL Guar.I hope it took, we wanted a April foal next year. My mare was due April this year and foaled May 3.The foal is now 16 days old.
Thanks for your help.
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 260
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
My vet came to check my mare to see if she was breed. The vet said she is about 22-25 days along. The vet said that a little blood came after he check her, he gave her a shot. Has anyone else had this happen before?
THANKS melissa
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10749
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blood from where?
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 261
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos,
My vet ultrasound on my mare today to see if she was breed, after he pull his hand out a little blood was on the glove(blood from her butt). He gave her a shot of Gnetocin. What is Gnetocin stuff? He said she is about 22-25 days along. He told us to watch her for the next couple of days. We like our vet, but she was fine before that.What would cause a little blood after a ultrasound? He also said he felt a sharp area in the area as well, maybe she was born with a sharp area in the pal area.I am not a good speller sorry.The vet thinks she is fine. We hope.
thanks MELISSA
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10755
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Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gentocin is an antibiotic - Gentamycin.

Blood after palpation has the potential to be a very bad sign. There has been damage of some sort to the lining of the rectum. In minor cases, it might only be a scratch as a result of a little piece of undigested grain scraping the lining as the manure is evacuated. In the worst case scenario the rectum is torn through and manure is passing into the abdominal cavity - which will be fatal.

Monitor your mare closely for signs of discomfort, and if there are any, or you yourself are uncomfortable about it, seek veterinary assistance.
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 268
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos,
Thanks for the help. My mare acts okay. My mare is eating, drinking and passing manure fine. I haven't see any blood. Will I see blood in the manure or not? My vet thinks she will be fine. He only gave her one shot of Gentocin to be safe. What does the Gentocin do really? The vet came out June 7, 2006 to check her to see if she was breed. I was worring if maybe the vet did something by mistake is this possible.When the vet took out the manure to ultrasound her I didn't see any blood, only after the whole thing was over. It was only a little blood on the glove.Do you think the mare and the unborn foal will be okay.My children would be very sad and so would I if something happen to her. My mare acted fine before he came as well. This is the first time this vet check her, the other vet check her last year no blood.How long should I watch her for?What are some of the signs?
THANKS melissa
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10764
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You may or may not see blood in the manure. The Gentocin is an antibiotic which is given with the intention of fighting any infection if it occurs. Giving a single dose is a little less than desirable though - a course is better if it's needed.

What has happened is that there has been damage to the inside of the mare's rectum. How much damage cannot be predicted on this forum and requires an evaluation. The vet may o rmay not have done anythign wrong - that is also impossible to determine without knowing exactly what happened - and only the vet who had his hand in the mare knows that.

There is not a threat to the fetus. The threat - if present - is to the mare. The fact that she appears to be OK still is good, as it suggests that it was a minor scrape rather than a full tear. If she's OK after a week from the incident, you should be fine.
 

melissa
Breeding Stock
Username: Mbgirl

Post Number: 270
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
My mare Annie is doing great. Thank you all for your help.
thanks MELISSA



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