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Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 613
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:52 am: | 
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OK GUYS...
new changes warrant new pics this am...what is this? is this swelling(edema) or baby or what?
JOS?
it is very hard, not squishy like the edema she has had...HELP!!
[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6516.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6509.jpg[/IMG] |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 560
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:19 am: |
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Kris, it is hard to see due to the angles at which we are trying to view! But I know that I have had a few large build mares, that when their milk veins fill in and the swelling is happening , it gives that kind of look. Like a little step in the the shape of their tummy. There is also another problem that can happen, There is a article here in the article section of this site, http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/rupture.shtml it is a ventral rupture. Make sure you keep a eye on her. |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 615
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:28 am: |
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it is mostly on one side, bigger than a vein it talkes up whole lower abdomen. look at the pics i just posted on the 348 still waiting thread, if you look closely you can see itit runs whole lenght of tummy, and almost as wide, but has a rideg in hte center...its wierd. looks ugly! |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 561
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:19 am: |
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Ya, Kris, that has happened to my mares as well, sometimes it seems that one side fills in first and then the other side follows, and runs the whole length of the tummy from the udder all the way back to the chest. My poor mare was so full and wouldn't even lay down for nearly three weeks prior to foaling. Looks pretty much like your pic you show. ?? Watch her. 
Kim |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 617
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:28 am: |
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thanks...watch her for what? |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 562
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:43 am: |
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Did you read the link that I posted ? Just make sure that she is doing ok and that the swelling that you see is not looking like those photos on the link. Every mare is different. My poor mare last year even developed a pin hole leak in her udder. Worried us but things turned out ok and the foal nursed and thrived. The leak did stop and must have filled in with something ! My mares that are good milk producers normally end up looking like your photo posted, even more so the experienced, year after year producers.
Kim |
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling
Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 64
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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Ruby had a little swelling like that the day before she foaled. |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 619
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:00 am: |
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ok, so if she is acting "normal" which i am not totally sure what that is anymore, doent seem depressed not rapid breathing (unless seems to be in labor ) then just keep an eye on her...ok i can do that! (yes i read the article, she looks similar to the draft, but not the others)
sharon i think i remember you posting on this too...so im hopefully a day away...sweet...that would be good! |
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling
Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 67
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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This evening, try the warm towel treatment on the udder, that's what I had to do with Ruby to get her to let me check milk. They really relax into it after a minute or two. I bet if you check tonight it's off-white opaque. |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 620
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:45 am: |
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if that is the case she SHOULD foal tonight...past two pregnancies the night (i only checked at night because they were not at my house at that time)i checked and it turned white was the night she foaled...so HERES HOPIN!!!
last nights sample i left on a piece of black pastic, this am it was clear looking crystally adn flaky, reminded me of dried up milk...so like i said...HERES HOPIN!
one good thing...I dont have any daycare kids tomarrow tillnoon, they will eat luch and then take naps, and leave an hour afternaps...so if it is tonight that would be GOOD!!! |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 623
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:25 pm: |
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 OK IT IS EDEMA I BELIEVE...MASSIVE!!!!
if i press on it my fingers easily sink 2 inches in and it stays indented! ISH!!!
Is that normal?!?!?!?!?!
or should i ask, should i be concerned?!?!?!?! |
Melissa Collins
Neonate
Username: Ccr
Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:37 pm: |
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Kris,
I had a draft mare that had severe edema and that is how you test for edema. If you put a finger into it and it stays indented, that's edema. It's just something heavier mares do, it will go away after she foals! She must be getting close! Poor girl! |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 565
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 04:16 pm: |
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It is hard to explain, but if it looks like "normal" swelling-(Edema) then dont' worry at this time. If the sweelling has problems with it then be concerned. All the vets keep telling me things like this are normal swelling(I had swelling 1 out of 3 babies). You naturally retain more fluid, there is more blood, and other fluid naturally occuring in the body. I would say that she will soon foal and return to normal. What did she do with the past foals ?
Good thing to keep swelling down is not to keep her stalled up. So if you can have her out and about the swelling seems to be less in most mares. Freedom to walk around keeps all fluid moving and not pooling up in the legs and other spots. I have to say to Melissa's comment about "heavier" mares i find true. A big bulky foundation bred mare too seems to show more edima than a fine boned slimer body type mare.
Good luck!
Kim |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 626
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 04:32 pm: |
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she is an arab! her legs are ok, its just her whole lower abdomen from just behind her front legs almost to her udder! she is out 12 or more hours per day, she walks around grazes, comes to the barn goes back to grazing, she is moving lots. I may take her for a walk tonight, just a 15 minute one.
she did not have this AT ALL with the other two! even her first one where she was stalled 20 or more hours per day!
i hope this is over SOON!!!!! |
Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11
Post Number: 178
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:51 pm: |
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Kris,
One of my mares got edema much like the one you showed but WORSE within 1 day of foaling.
I swear, it would be 5-6 inches wide, and 2 inches think...and would run down both sides of her.
Keep your eyes peeled friend...no bathroom breaks for you How far along is she now? |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 634
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:20 pm: |
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heather she is 353 today. hers is whole belly, and is about 4 inches thick today! look at her belly pic on the 348 thread. its rather gross if you ask me! trust me she is being watched!!! |
Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11
Post Number: 179
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:23 am: |
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Have mercy! Bless her heart Kris and yours! 353 days...boy was I spoiled...we only went 327! What a good mare, she must be miserable.
I can't wait to see what she has!! Don't forget your camera (I did!). |
