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Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 577 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:51 am: |
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I STARTED THIS ONE FOR THE POOR PEOPLE (LIKE ME) STILL WAITING PAST 348 DAYS, AS WE ARE OUT OF THE " "NORMAL" OF THE NORMAL RANGE" MARES NAME? MARES AGE? #DAYS? MAIDEN OR NOT? POST PICS OR APPEARANCE DESCRIPTION OF UDDERS, MILK VEINS, BELLY SHAPE, MILK COLOR AND THICKNESS, LEAKING, VULVAR DISCHARGE, AND ANY OTHER ABNORMALITIES OR NORMALITIES OF HER PREGNANCY ...JUST SO WE CAN SEE WHERE OUR STUBBORN MARES ARE IN COMPARED TO THE OTHER STUBBORN MARES TO PASS TIME WHILE WE STILL WAIT!! THOUGHT IT MAY BE AN INTERESTING THREAD.... |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 578 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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I will start with my mare- Tsaharah 17 yrs old, 3rd foal, she is a registered arabian bred to a foundation AQHA. she is 349 days today. Hind end real soft, vulva long, occasional dried blood, or little red clotty pieces, plenty of milk veinson abdomen, inner thighs,and udder now for weeks! veins in her face have begun to bulge this past weekend, eyes are mattering today for no apparent reason. bagged up about 2 weeks ago, can easily express a yellow watery clear sticky fluid. She likes to play the "this is the night game", tail swishing, flicking and circles, pace, paw, bite sides, pin ears and look at belly, and very crabby at everyone and everything!!! up till friday belly was very low and pointed, and gone from the rear, this weekend now belly is fuller again, not so pointy and visible again from rear. last week she was acting like she couldnt get enough food, now yesterday and today not nearly as aggressive towards food, eats a bit, sleeps awhile, eats a bit more, ect. last week she layed down alot, now the last 5 days or so she doesnt lay down hardly at all, mostly just to roll, but she struggles to get back to her feet. hasnt ran bucked or kicked for months! pictures all taken yesterday 348 days. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6446.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6450.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6444.jpg[/IMG] |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 430 Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:18 am: |
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Kris- I had to giggle when I looked at that last photo w/T looking at you..she has such a funny expression on her face. A few of our mares went thru that period of NOT laying down right before they foaled, MAYBE, just MAYBE she's about ready to get down to business. Her udder looks MUCH better but it's still not as full as I'd expect it to be right before foaling..at least you know she's going to have milk though. |
   
Marie
Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas
Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:26 am: |
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Ahhhh Kris I can totally sympathise with you. Classy is 18yr old AQHA, this will be her 6th foal. Breed date unknown, except to go by pics of when she was not with all the other horses, stud included and when she was. We had the vet here the 3rd of Marc, he gave her 2 more weeks, then we had him back 4 weeks later and he said anytime, foal was even closer to birth canal then than on the 3rd. She has shown every sign possible that this is it, only to not do a thing. She went through 3 weeks of pointed belly, and has been slab sided from the rear for 2 at least now, she is relaxed, udder full, yellow very sticky substance from teats, waxed off and on, vulva lenghtens, then shrinks, udder and teats have been very black and shiney only to go back, veins bulge then go away, I have seen baby move in the croup area off and on for a month or more, she has almost torn down walls with butt rubbing a few nights ago, she has been on and off her feed, done the tail swishing, belly kicking, belly biting. I have gotten to the point where I do not believe any of the so called signs anymore cause she has shown them all. here is a link to her pics. The first 7 are from this morning. http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/ Looking at your mares pics she looks like she could be Classy daughter, lol. Sending Happy Healthy Foaling Vibes your way. They can't hold out for ever. But there are some of us who are wondering if Classy baby isn't gonna be born saddlebroke and ready to ride at the rate she is going. Marie |
   
Dawn Garbett
Nursing Foal Username: Stlfarm
Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:28 am: |
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I have a five year old maiden throughbred mare. She is 355 days today. She is really soft around her tail. Full shiny bag. She was waxed this morning and is now dripping milk. She has gone from sweet to totally evil! I don't blame her! I came home on my lunch break to check on her. She is pacing her stall and pawing. Hopefully a baby soon? |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 582 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:32 am: |
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Marie, that is too funny, there is defineately a resemblence between them! maybe they will foal together yeah right! Ev- thanks, yeah she has a look all right! one id like to slap off! just kidding! well see i guess...TIME will tell! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 583 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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dawn...sounds good, keep us informed! |
   
Lee
Neonate Username: Leejon
Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 11:50 am: |
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I have Glory 18 yr old Expert broodmare (10-15th). She was pasture bred by previous owner, so I have no dates to help me. She is acting almost identical to Kris' Tsahara. Although she started to form an udder over 6 weeks ago (not full yet -shrinks during the day)Milk veins are 4 inches wide and deep...milk colour unknown (she aint friendly)I saw a honey coloured drop abt 5 weeks ago...Otherwise all other signs come and go...daily....just to irritate me...GRRR she had 'V' for a whole week in March...and again this past week for 2 days...Foal is active and she is content Eating,and very active wondering, so i keep up the MARE STARE....she has to foal sometime this YEAR.... |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 585 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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boy so far i see a trend...DISCOURAGED!!!! Im glad I am not he only one!!! |
   
anita kabat
Weanling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 43 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 01:50 pm: |
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I have a 7 year old Quarter horse her name is Sonoita not sure on # of Days Kathee says I am right up there with Kris. She is not really showing any signs today, but are there really signs? i am beginning to wonder!! Three weeks ago everyone here at home was telling me she was READY yeah right, she proved them wrong. THen i found this site and she begin showing signs of rolling, stall walking, bagging up, but has never waxed yet. her vulva has been relaxed her rump is like jello, veins showing on and off. amber colored liquid can be expressed but not dripping, she starts all her signs in the evening hours. Yesterday she was in the pasture and went to lay beside the pond and got a little wet and then came up to roll in the dirt and she was a mess. her vulva is not so relaxed, she has begun bagging up for third time. It seems like when she goes out to graze she bags up quickly, and then she goes back down somewhat Last week I posted pics of her udders and some said she could nurse a herd with the size of the udders. She has made a big change in the udder size this week i will post both of those pics to show you what a change it is. I am READY for her to foal NOW!! Last weeks Udder Pic 1 [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0188.jpg[/IMG] pic 2 Todays Udder [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0200.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0199.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0198.jpg[/IMG] |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 587 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 05:12 pm: |
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boy she did shrink up...what happened? well Tsaharah is walking around very irritated right now, she puts her head down to graze and starts to back up with her hears pinned, she walks away to a new spot does the same thing...shaking her head a lot, and sneezing like crazy! she is breathing VERY fast, I counted per minute and it is between 58 and 66 breaths per minute! nostrils are flared, like she just ran a mile! lots of tail swinhing, hard to tell if all this is because of the flies that have hatched today due to the heat, it is 68 degrees and sunny, so i am not sure if she is hot and irritated, or if baby is moving around! |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 355 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 05:18 pm: |
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Kris - I sure hope she is getting down to business...you read to her didn't you! |
   
anita kabat
Weanling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 45 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 05:26 pm: |
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Kris- i do not know what happen i was hoping someone could tell me,my neighbor said hers done this 4 times |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 224 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 06:34 pm: |
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AAAHHYYYAA Kris! Sounds like that is the movement that you maybe looking for. If she really is breathing that heavy and hard then I would say you MIGHT BE STARTING into stage 1 You have said that she is not eating and doing alot of walking around. JUST MAYBE NOW she is getting really ready!! Don't want to get your hopes up but I think with a heavier breathing like that than she would/SHOULD be getting ready to be FOALING! Remember before I had mentioned to you to watch her breathing and if it is like she has gone for a run then it is close! Good luck !!  |
   
Tansy Brassfield
Weanling Username: Spccutnoak
Post Number: 40 Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 06:42 pm: |
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My palomino mare (Melody) is now 352 days today. Barely any bag and no foaling signs AT ALL!! Here is a picture of her and her very small bag. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/tansybrassfield/Melody352days001.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/tansybrassfield/Melody352days002.jpg[/IMG] |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 588 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 09:19 pm: |
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well it must have been a false alarm...or a pracitice run, she did that for about an hour and a half, then stopped and went and grazed. well see what tonight brings! |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 227 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 09:23 pm: |
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Sorry I feel for you about now with this T situation. |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 358 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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Kris - wishing you happy "productive" labor vibes resulting in a healthy foal...having to change up my well wishes because they don't seem to be getting through to Tsaharah...thought maybe if I spelled it out for her Tsaharah - on behalf of the entire Equine Reproduction board, you are cordially invited to attend and actively participate in the birth of your foal tonight...consider this your silver platter invitation |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 591 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 07:25 am: |
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well silver platter invitation was not good enough!!! still no foal, she did not eat too much all night, just lots of water! she did have another episode though, she walked aroun dher stall, munching, did a circle in her hay, walked a gain pawed, stepped in to her straw bed layed flat on her side, rolled up to her babk and got up...boy i tell you, my heart started racing at that time!!!!! she walked outside, tail just going nuts, bit her belly a few times, then the neighbors dogs started barking....and well yeah, brakes came on...screaching halt, and she went and stood fora nap, woke up and started munching on hay! AHHHHHHHH!
I swear I will be crazy before she foals!!!! but eventually she will have to give in...RIGHT?????????? udder staued full and hard yesterday, fluid thickened a bit, and vulva mushy, so i am thinking she is doing practice runs!!!! and well practice makes perfect, so she ought to have no problems...right? will post if any changes when the sun comes up and i can see! stayed gorgeous last night, 58 degrees, wishing she would have foaled! rain later today and again thursday...day before and day after full moon, so lets see if it works THIS MONTH!!!! she slipped right past the last full moon!!!! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 595 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 09:18 am: |
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well her little shenanigans must be doing SOMETHING!!!!! i went out to check her and her udder is defineatley fuller and to my surprise she had something there!!! "wax" an amber sticky little piece,[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6456.jpg[/IMG] and when i "milked" her it is very thick and amber as the photo on the spoon will show!!![IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6456.jpg[/IMG] i am excited...most progress in a week or more! lets see what goes on now!!! now i will defineatley check her more often!!! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 596 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 09:28 am: |
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forgot to put these on, under and rear view of udder. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6466.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6462.jpg[/IMG] |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 360 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 09:31 am: |
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Kris - that is what I found on Dream at 9:00 pm, about 5 hours before foaling. Maybe she is just going to be fashionably late for her silver platter invitation PS - both photos are the wax...no spoon |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 232 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 09:45 am: |
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Kris can you get me a pic of the wax on the udders. Also can i use the pic that you have of the wax? YIPPY !!!!!!! She is moving in the right direction FINALLY !!!!!! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 597 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:16 am: |
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ok ill try the spoon one again [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6470.jpg[/IMG] yep raven use them! do i need to email or can you get off here? i did not take a pic of the wax on her udder, i went out without the camera and was so excited i picked it off before getting the camera!!! if she gets more i will be sure to get you a photo! kathee- would be nice if se foals tonight, id really like to spend Easter with my families, but now since she has waxed i dont dare leave to long! so an all day holiday 40 minutes away...i dont think so!! but it would be awesome to have new baby photos to show off!!!  |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 234 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 01:06 pm: |
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Kris Thank you! I'll just get them from here, should be okay. |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 365 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 07:00 pm: |
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Kris -How is your little drama queen this evening? Is she is planning another rehersal or do you think she is ready for opening night? |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 599 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 08:05 pm: |
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well she is pretty calm and eating hay right now, i am anticipating rehearsal time between 9 and 20 pm, that seems to be "her time". she wants to be out standing in the rain for some reason! wierd horse! no waxing again, still syruip thick amber fluid, vulva a bit darker tonight. she has been even crabbier today, but eating like it is goin out of style!!! hay, grain, grass...whatever! she even nickered to my daughter when she was bringing out dog and chicken food! like i said....WIERD HORSE! Tansy- 352? she will probably foal before mine, mine thinks its cool to wait! are you concerned at all about not having much of a bag? anita still nothing? how bout Lee, Dawn or Marie? |
   
Lee
Neonate Username: Leejon
Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 08:13 pm: |
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Milk dripping yesterday at 5 pm. Waxing at 11 am. Eating Eating Eating...Vulva enlongated but still pale shade of pink...  |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 601 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 06:21 am: |
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lee- hmmmmm. no luck for me either! have not been out this am to check for waxing again or anything new, I will as soon as the sun is up. well last night she did not have her usual 9-10pm rehearsal, apparently she feels she has it mastered! she did lay soen last night though, she rocked a few times, tail was going nuts at that time, then she rested quietly, and she has been eating her STRAW off and on since than. a little bit ago she had her butt pressed up against the wall and was rocking, thens he stepped away, parked out, and leaned back and started pressing again. she just layed down again, but she is just resting...maybe she is preparing for the big event!!! (YEAH RIGHT) ill post if any changes when i go out! |
   
Lee
Neonate Username: Leejon
Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 07:45 am: |
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NUTTIN, she looks even thinner this am, but otherwise no change...her previous owner told me that she HOLDS OUT so who knows, I am busy this weekend so......maybe The good news for all of us waiting " We are a day closer today than yesterday "(I think) |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 603 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:09 am: |
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yep, just came in from feeding and cleaning and inspection before turn out...NUTTIN HERE EITHER!! no wax today, udder very firm, but she was in all night, so we will see how she is this evening! otherwise everything else is the same! |
   
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 57 Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:35 am: |
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Kris, when the milk loses the translucent/yellow goes whiteish/opaque, you're in business. Ruby's went from that to white/opaque and she foaled that night. In the pic from Apr 10. her belly still looked pretty round and up. Has it dropped any? |
   
Marie
Nursing Foal Username: Lilbitkansas
Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:42 am: |
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Nothing new here with Classy except maybe her teats have shrunk back down some. The weird bulge has also shrunk down a little more, vet is positive it is just from poor circulation due to her bag being so big. She is acting her normal self, eating non stop. here is the link to this mornings pics http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/ It is the first 6. I am wondering what new tactic she will come up with for me to finish pulling my hair out. She has done all the telltale signs except showing me 2 feet and a nose. Oh well another day of mare stare. Sending out Happy Foaling Vibes to all. Marie |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 604 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:55 am: |
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Sharon- milk this am was not as amber, but didnt really look whitish, seemed clearer than yesterday, but yesterday was consitancy of "floor wax", today is more consistancy of honey or syrup! here is a pic from yesterday afternoon.[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6488.jpg[/IMG]and side view [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6479.jpg[/IMG] she was dropped 2 weeks ago! her tummy filled back in again! that is the frustrating part! this was after it dropped [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6328.jpg[/IMG] this was before [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/1d3464ef.jpg[/IMG] she even lost her belly from the rear, this was before it was gone[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_6021.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5700.jpg[/IMG] here is when it was pretty much gone, the only time you could see it was i you stood far away, but behind her 2-3 feet it was gone! [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6231.jpg[/IMG] it came back too![IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6446.jpg[/IMG] |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 55 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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Kris- Don't Worry we will Foal soon Kathee said i was right up there with you Maybe tomarrow night it is supose to be a full Moon the weather is supose to be nicer the rest of the week here maybe they are waiting on the right tempertures i don't know. mine felt kind of clamy and warm last night and started all her signs back up AGAIN Yawning pawing, cocking up one foot could not decide on which one to stand on, scratching her rear on post and tree, and i thought i found some wax on her teats last night if it was it was very little. the horse flys are driving her crazy supose to be in the 80's the rest of this week so i may have to go get more fly spray, for my four. Keep us upated and i will do the same. |
   
anita howard
Neonate Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:42 pm: |
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My mare is at 351 days. Anita Kabat, just because you and I have the same first names, our mares will foal on the same day. How many days is your mare today ? Or did I read in another post you are not sure. I was thinking the same thing about the full moon on the 13th. |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 56 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:49 pm: |
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ANITA H- NO I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY DAYS SHE IS, BUT WE CAN HOPE FOR THE FULL MOON |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 370 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 03:08 pm: |
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Anita Kabat...I may have confused you with Anita Howard when I said you and Kris were right together in days. I must have looked at Anita Howards days. I think Kris is right at 353ish. However, Anita Kabat, by looking at your mare and her progress, your are definately close and she is showing all the signs while presenting a fabulous performance each night which puts you in the same boat with Kris! Sorry for the confusion! |
   
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 03:47 pm: |
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Kris My Ruby was nowhere near a wide as your girl...I got a good chuckle at some of the photos, but the up and round could be a good thing. A couple of days before Ruby foaled, her saggy tummy tucked up enough that we walked her pasture hoping to not find a foal. Then the day she foaled she was big again, and laterally uneven. Two bumps on the left, and one pointy bump on the right. Hopefully this means baby is making launch preparations! Ruby's 'milk' got clearer and paler yellow a day or two before it went white/opaque. In 24 hours she went from testing 0 on the foal watch test to 350ppm, and she foaled that night. Good news all around! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 606 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:08 pm: |
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checked her tonight, "milk" is clearer (on white spoon was pale yellow) but still thick!! like super thick! and so sticky it could stick your fingers together! bag still as firm or firmer than this am, talked with the vet today, he says before sunday! (hopefully BEFORE and not sunday!) he is not concerned with 351 says! so sharon you love her wide load, too bad i dont not have the photo on still of the day the foal turned...she was absolutely huge and uneven!!!! heather said she had a coffee table in her sideways! i would love to test her milk, where so you get either the water strips or the foal kit? well she is eating ever so peacefully tonight, but she is real lovey...so odd for her!!! so we have got to be closing in as that is what she did her last 2 foals (10 and 11 years ago)!!! wish us luck that it is before sat night!!!   |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 240 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:17 pm: |
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Kris ((((((((((((Healthy FOAL vibes!!!!!)))))))))))))) Hey T are you listening Maybe just MAYBE this could be the REAL THING ! |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:32 pm: |
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kATHEE, lol THATS OK |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 377 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |
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Kris - I have that picture! I kept it because it always made me smile! I will post it if you like. |
   
Cconner
Nursing Foal Username: Cconner
Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:38 pm: |
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Kris- she doesn't look like she can hold out much longer. Remember not all mares wax or drip milk before they foal, Patti was one of them. I think you have less than 2 days. Hope to hear good news in the morning. PS thanks for talking me through photobucket, I'm going to try to post pics in a minute. |
   
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:58 am: |
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I used the Foal Watch kit, from what I'm reading it seems the strips top out too early and leave people waiting. From the way she's going, you should see the milk change no problem. Once you see it, you'll know! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 608 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 06:26 am: |
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THANKS GUYS FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!! KATHEE YO COULD POST THAT FOR SHARON TO SEE. THANKS! YOU KNOW IT WAS MUCH EASIER WITH HER LAST FOALS BECAUSE IT WAS "WHATEVER" I DID NOT REALLY CARE TO MUCH, BOTH WERE FREE BREEDING AND , I WAS NOT AS ATTACHED TO HER AS I AM NOW! SHE HAS PROVEN TO BE AN AWESOME HORSE!! MY 7 YR OLD SON WHO IS JUST LEARNING TO RIDE CAN RIDE HER DOWN THE ROAD NO PROBLEM...THAT IS HARD TO REPLACE! I HAVE HAD HER A LONG TIME...IM QUITE ATTACHED, NOT TO MENTION IT TOOK 2 YEARS TO GET HER IN FOAL TO THIS STALLION!!! AND SHE IS GETTING UP THERE IN YEARS SO I NEEDED TO HAVE HER FOAL TO REPLACE HER IN A FEW YEARS!!! YOU KNOW MISSNG THE BIRTH IS NOT THE THING I AM WORRIED ABOUT...IT IS THE SIZE OF THE FOAL AND LOSING ONE OR BOTH I AM WORRIED ABOUT!! ITS PRETTY BAD WHEN THE VET TELLS YOU TO BE PREPARED FOR PROBLEMS AND HAVE THE NUMBERS HANDY IN CASE I NEED TO BE WALKED THROUGH ANYTHING!!! WELL ANYWAY...THE OBVIOUS...NO FOAL THIS AM!!! HAVE NOT BEEN OUT YET TO CHECK HER, BUT SINCE 3 AM SHE HAS JUST BEEN STANDING DOING NOTHING REALLY, AND BEFORE THAT SHE WAS LAYING AND BEFORE THAT SHE WAS STANDING MUNCHING(ONE PIECE AT A TIME) AND PRIOR TO THAT LAYING, AND PRIOR TO THAT DOING NOTHING...SO YES I WATCHED HER A BETTER PART OF HTE NIGHT....AND OTHER THAN NOT EATING ALL NIGHT WHICH IS NORMALLY WHAT SHE DOES... SHE DID NOT...SO WE'LL SEE WHAT SUNRISE BRINGS! >>>>>>CHANGES PLEASE<<<<<<<< |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 614 Registered: 01-2006
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ok, I'm feeling pretty confident that it will be tonight or tomarrow! udder bulging at the seams!!! wow never been this full. she has made a mess of her stall! i tried to check her vulva color, she actually tightened uppher whole hind end and squealed, i repremanded her, tried to just to touch to look and she lifted a leg adn squealed, has never had a prob before this! she had a little white dard crusty on one teat, took a pic but not sure how well it will post, i picked it off and it is a whitish clear crystally crusty! (im thinking possible skim milk stage! ) tried to get some out, but she did not want to stand, and it is so hard it is hard to get ahold of! let me tell you she will be watched like a hawk tonight!!!!!! she is eating her grain right now but eating like a raging angry maniac, whipping it all over! id say she is defineately irritable today...lwts see what thsi afternoon brings! here are this am's pics! oh i started a new theread "whats this" check it out [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6504.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6493.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6517.jpg[/IMG] |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 244 Registered: 03-2006
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Kris sounds like HOME STRETCH for you finally!!!!
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Jan Owen
Neonate Username: 1frosty1
Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2006
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Hi Kris, I am new to this advice board but I feel and understand you anxiety. It looks to me like your mare has shaped up nicely. I would watch her today too. They do not all foal at night. A friend of mine's mare has foaled in the afternoon with lots of people and activity happening. They are independent creatures. I will be sending safe and successful foaling thoughts your way. Hang in there! |
   
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 65 Registered: 02-2006
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Usually the white crystals are more towards the base of the teat and the area is pretty much polka-dotted. She could be working on waxing up. But it does sound like she turned the corner. |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 378 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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Kris - hooray! She really is an independant gal. Do you have someone to help yo with the birth? |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 621 Registered: 01-2006
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kathee--- ahh uneducated squeemish hubby! does that count?!?!?!? i know several horse people...many breed but have never had to pull a foal before! im hoping hubby will be a good support when needed! i have another friend, mom and sister on standby, if i THINK it is tonight well be haveing a slumber party! i am exctied but i do not want to get my hopes up...cuz we ALL know she has let me/us down before!!! I am actually scared to go check on her this afternoon because i am afraid she regressed...i dont know if i could handle that! i am also scared because as much as I have been anticipating it , now that it seems like it could be real soon...I have to be honest...I AM SCARED TO DEATH!!!    |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 246 Registered: 03-2006
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Kris WE ALL ARE HERE FOR YOU!!!! Do not think about what it all feels like just jump in, only if you see she is having trouble after 20 minutes and nothing is coming. If you have to end up helping pull the foal out, pull only when T is pushing and watch her carefully. When she stops you stop. You just want to grab the feet and apply enough presure to help her push it out. Make sure you pull towards her hocks and NOT straight out. Normally once their front feet, head and shoulders are out the rest just spits out. They will still have sometimes the hind feet left in her. Leave her be like this when she goes to get up they will come out. Once you have the head, feet and shoulders out break the bag around the face. Do not break it until then or it could cause the bag to go back in. Make sure you bring your Broodmare book with you if you have one. The vets number, your camera, and towels. YOU CAN DO THIS!!!We all have faith in you. If you can survive having three kids you can survive having a foal!  |
   
Kim k
Breeding Stock Username: Kimk
Post Number: 563 Registered: 04-2005
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Kris, we have pulled foals in several different situations. Most the time, just finding that the mare is really having to work, so with those siutations we tend to step in and give a hand while the mare is pushing to help her along a bit faster so she doesn't tire out and then have trouble. We will let them work at it for a bit and then give a hand. We have some mares that really produce good size foals, but firmly believe that a mare can normally deliver the foal that she grows. If I can help a mare deliver a baby while 2.5 months pg myself(and it was gross to me at the time, as I was still getting morning sickness myself and smells bothered me) then I know you can do it too. I think you are finally getting closer to the big event! good luck Kim |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 431 Registered: 10-2005
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Kris- just wanted to jump in for a minute and let you know the surgery went ok. he's doing well and is supposed to be coming home tomorrow afternoon. Sorry T hasn't given you that baby yet. Our mares are still holding out too. Ev |
   
Kim k
Breeding Stock Username: Kimk
Post Number: 564 Registered: 04-2005
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Ev, glad to hear that your hubby is doing well. I was wondering. Surgery of any kind is hard on the family. In my prayers. Kim |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 247 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 02:44 pm: |
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Ev- very relieved to hear your hubby is doing well.The worst is over. |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 622 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:23 pm: |
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Ev- hey thanks for the update!! was not sure when we would hear back from you! glad he is ok, and glad those mares held off for you! mine on the otherhand...well dont hold me to this...but im thinking tonight...no later than tomarrow! just went and checked on her, is acting fine, udder did come down since this am, pressed on her belly, baby pressd back(kinda funny), the thing i was worried about is EDEMA>>>MASSIVE EDEMA!!! I press in about 2 inches and it stays indented....ISH!!!! seems to bother her too! any way the reason i think it will be tonight is MILK IS TURNING MILKY!!!!!! yeah!!!! pics here. SAME SPOON BOTH PICS 2 DAYS AGO- [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6470.jpg[/IMG] JUST NOW- [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6523.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6518.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6521.jpg[/IMG] Not totally White, but defineately not clear!!!!
wish us luck ...and tune in...ill update if anything progresses!!!!! and ESPECIALLY IF A FOAL IS BORN TONIGHT!!!! oh and i will keep you guys in mind if i need any advice...like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of TSAHARAH!!!!(get the connection sand-tsaharah (desert) ) |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 432 Registered: 10-2005
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sorry girls, I spoke too soon, since my post I called the ICU and he's leaking cerebral fluid from his incision, they had to put in sutures (vice the glue they HAD used) I'm going back to the hospital as soon as I can drop my mares off at the breeders. I'll be in touch on Saturday as FOR SURE I'll be in the office by then. Kris- good luck, post photos if you get that baby before I'm back! it's 88 here today, the mares are MISERABLE and they are on their own again tonight.. our luck surely cannot hold out. Ev |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 624 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 04:09 pm: |
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oh Ev- Im sorry! hes in my prayers! good luck! |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 249 Registered: 03-2006
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OMG Ev- my heart goes out to you and your hubby! Will keep both of you in my thoughts...... |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 382 Registered: 12-2005
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Ev - I have been thinking of your family the last several days. We will continue to keep you in our prayers. Kris - I can relate to your fear. I was sooo excited when I was convinced she was serious and I was sooo scared knowing it was really here and Dream would be counting on me to handle any problems. I had to help a little with Dream's delivery. She just seemed to work and work and not get anywhere. She presented about 10 to 12 inches of one leg. I kept saying "we only have one hoof, where is the other hoof?". I actually slid my hand in to make sure the other hoof was there and I was very happy to find it and a little nose, also! I guess that since the second leg was not streched all the way out it made the shoulders wider and harder to deliver. Anyway, I pulled some when she was pushing. All this to say...even though I had read everything, my fist instinct was to pull the foal out directly away from Dream. Then I remembered they should curve down towards the mares back legs so the motion is really more at a 45 degree angle until the shoulders are delivered and then it is kind of straight down. You may have this etched in your brain, but I know you said you have not assisted a birth before. There were several things I "knew" that didn't automatically kick in like it would with the pros. PS - I also had to break the bag, but that one kicked in automatically! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 628 Registered: 01-2006
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news!!! vulva is puffy, gapping opena bit, i just went out to wrap her tail, had to fight with her to do so, normally she does not care, she actually trotted to get a way from me, i did get it done, anyway while i was doing so i inspected, outer edges ar almost blood blister looking, inside medium red, she wants to be brushed everywhere but hind end, she just hangs her head and stands there. udder is as full as this am, milk same cloudy clear/whitish, was stomping her hind leg and swishing her tail pretty frantically, a few minutes before i went out, not sure if it is flies or what. part of me feels really that its going to happen tonight...other part says, yeah right shes messin with ya! well after dark if any changes ill let you know, i have decided against her 15 minute walk...i think i will take the yearling out instead,a dn let her ponder delivery!!! well Im off.... |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 253 Registered: 03-2006
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AAAAHHHHH SOUNDS GGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD!!!!! Your gut is the only one that can tell you if it is going to be tonight or not. Hope it is for your sanity sake! You probably should have taken her for a walk and get those contractions moving quicker. Is she really soft on either side of her vulva in the muscle area? If she is then keep your eyes glued to her! The muscles will kind of ripple there. (((((((((Good Luck! Happy Foal Vibes))))))))) |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 629 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:43 pm: |
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yep. skin wrinkles because it is so relaxed...oh trust me i plan to watch very carefully! I just put down a nice new bed of straw...i will watch her for the next 45 minutes while she is outside, then i will put her in for the night and watch some more! one thing is she ate all her grain and she munches grass for a few minutes, naps again repeat...she has not pooped hardly at all today...like 4 times since 7:30 this am...that kind of scares me! do you think i should give her some bran? (to get things moving inside?) ugh .... |
   
Angela Houle
Nursing Foal Username: Rageninvestment
Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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Good luck- I am working all night so going to hope you post as soon as she foals. My mare foaled yesterday!  |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 254 Registered: 03-2006
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Kris you could, it would not hurt anything. Nice hot bran mash. I'm sure she would enjoy it. Has her poop changed shape or consistance at all. Like softer, not really soft as a cow pie but softer more wet. They will also poop and urinate frequently the day of delivery. To empty themselves out for the foal to come through. |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 255 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:35 pm: |
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Congrats Angela! Post some pics. |
   
Angela Houle
Nursing Foal Username: Rageninvestment
Post Number: 16 Registered: 04-2005
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I would if I could. haha  |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 384 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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Yeah, Kris! Sounds like things are moving! I will be thinking happy foal thoughts for you! |
   
windy fillmore
Yearling Username: Windyf
Post Number: 77 Registered: 08-2005
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Kris M. I have seen that crystal that you picked off on two of my mares both mares waxed the next day, one foaled the night she wax and the other was waxed for 3 days I would say you are very close given the other signs she has. So good luck. I will be on foal watch for the next 11 months as Rosie is now going backwards instead of forwards. |
   
Angela Houle
Nursing Foal Username: Rageninvestment
Post Number: 17 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 04:06 am: |
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Kris? Anything? Angela |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 630 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 07:46 am: |
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horse for sale, has one bad habit, pretends to be in labor/will NOT give birth!!!! NOTHING!!!!!! except sleep deprived!!! she did her usual shenanigans...then stood and slept...I am to he point that she has cried wolf one too many times...I think tonight I am going to a surprise b-day party for a friend over an hour away, i will leave at 4:30 and return when i do...foohey! (O.K. so if anything progresses today i wont but if she is hte same i think i will) I knew last night she would not have it...it was too convenient...i had a friend come stay the night to help me stay up, my own kids were not home, no daycare kids this am...would have been perfect...all hte more reason NOT TO!!! anyway unless there are more changes.... oh i forgot to tell you, udder is lumpy and hard, edemas worse, had coudy whitish sparkly drips/crust on both teats...thats it! |
   
anita howard
Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2006
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353 days and udder development this am. Baby appears to be in birth canal, mare looks slim this am. Vulva was long last night. Still no white milk. Kris go have a good time, and when you get back home you will have a baby. |
   
anita howard
Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 08:31 am: |
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How about Anita K. anything this am. |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 64 Registered: 03-2006
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Good afternoon,looking back at pics has her belly got bigger or has she dropprd more? These were taken 4/11 [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0219.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0215.jpg[/IMG] these were taken this morning [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0223_0001.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0222.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/26de8da0.jpg[/IMG] excuse her she is a mess she decided toohead to the pond earler this morning. (Message edited by akabat on April 14, 2006) |
   
anita howard
Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 01:26 pm: |
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She definately looks like she he not far from foaling. The tail head and the flanks are the most noticeable for me |
   
anita howard
Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 15 Registered: 03-2006
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353 days. Her udder deflated later on in the morning, but her vulva is swollen. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/mofoxtrottr/gypsy.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/mofoxtrottr/101_0355.jpg |
   
Jan Owen
Neonate Username: 1frosty1
Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2006
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Hi all, I am hoping that one of you with all your wealth of knowledge can tell me a little more about the change in color in the vulva area? That is a new sign I have not heard of before. Is it pretty reliable? and does a drastic change in color mean foaling soon? My mare is 364 days and full udder, loosie goosie in the hind end, creaking and miserable. She went 377 days with her last foal. thanks for the help! |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 07:30 pm: |
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I have read many of your postings but this is the first time I have asked questions...so here goes...I have a 10 year old Mustang Mare named Missy. She is 365 days pregnant with her first foal. I am a little concerned because I have had many people tell me that an overdue foal can have complications. Missy looks plenty healthy, very pregnant and has showed MANY if not ALL of the signs of going into labor, but no luck yet. She has been biting and looking at her sides for over a month, her hips have sunken in, tailhead is more prominent, she swishes her tail back and forth, rubs her face on her front legs, goes off and on the feed then eats compulsivly for a day or so, and so on. I have kept a journal so I can give more examples if need!(lol) My main concern is, is it true that overdue foals have a harder time or are less healthy than those born within the "normal" range? |
   
anita howard
Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 18 Registered: 03-2006
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There was an article that a member on this board posted, I can't find it, but it basicly said that 340 days is the average for foaling. A mare can foal anywhere between 320-370 days and that just because she is beyond 340 days does not make her late. I also was worried about my mare at 353 days, but after reading that article, my mind is at ease. I even read where mares have given birth after 370 days, and no problems with mom or baby. "Jos" posted that article, and I believe she wrote it. If she reads this post, please Jos please put a link to that article, it relieved my mind. Thanks |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 388 Registered: 12-2005
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Stormy - echo of what Anita H said. Also, does she have an udder? That is kind of key if she is this far along. If she has an udder, then she is still within the normal range. If she does not have an udder, there are other concerns you need to rule out. I will look for Jos article and post the link. It should help you feel beeter about "normal", not about you stubborn mare! Mares that are over due do tend to have problems, but not all mare that go past 370 are considered overdue. |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 389 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:10 pm: |
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Here is the link to "is My Mare Overdue?" by Jos http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/overdue.shtml |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 390 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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Uh...Kris...um...I just re-read Jos article on overdue vs normal and the longest gestation on record is ...um...417 days. How is you gal looking tonight or did you opt for the surprise party! |
   
Jos
Board Administrator Username: Jos
Post Number: 10582 Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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Is my mare overdue? And Jos is a "he" BTW...  |
   
Deena
Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1
Post Number: 347 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:21 pm: |
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Now jos are ya sure you know we could use a nice picture of ya just to make sure. |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 258 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:38 pm: |
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Kathee now, now be nice to Kris ! If T goes that long I think Kris will definatley take the vacumm to her!! I don't know Kris can you handle THAT many more days ?!?!?!? Hope either way, you are enjoying yourself tonight! |
   
Jan Owen
Neonate Username: 1frosty1
Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2006
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Hi Stormy, In 2003 my maiden 11 year old mare gave birth at 377 days. I was a nervous wreck. I called the vet constantly and he would say "we won't worry till she hits 365 days", then he would modify that as the weeks clicked on. Bottom line was she delivered a healthy stud colt but he was on the smaller side. Which I guess for longer gestations is "normal". The vet told me the genetic code was there for his growth and he would grow to his size perfectly normal and he was right. He is now 3 and a terrific trail horse. My mare is 364 days and it is much easier waiting this time. Hang in there. You want the baby cooked and ready to take on the world. |
   
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 70 Registered: 02-2006
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I've read the the vulva color isn't a great indicator. When the mare lays down it darkens, then lightens after a while of standing. My own observations with Ruby back it up. She was a nice bubblegum pink 6 hours before foaling--no scarlet to be seen. The milk change was the best indicator for her. |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 631 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |
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all right, i just got home, chose to go to the surprise party for awhile...left her out to pasture with the theory she wont feel safe enough to foal out here. well no foal so that is good...but she is one upset girl!!! not sure if it is because i left her out later than normal or what, she actually ran away from me, did not want to be caught, then came to me, i put her in, went to look at her and she ran from me again! WOW!!! CRABBY!!! well udder is defineately full, stayed that way all day today, never went down at at all. earlier this afternoon i went to look, she had the sparkly "drips" on her teat ends, if i rubbed them i got wet streaks,so she is FULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! her edema is now about 4 inches thick...GROSS, her hind end UNDER the tail is loose! (watch it wiggle, see it jiggle...jello!) as well as her area around her tail! took pics this afternoon(have not had time to post) belly a lot less sticking out (wide) and a bit lower, SOOOOOOOO>>>>another LONG night!!!! ill try to load pics and post a couple here now. |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 633 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:14 pm: |
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belly shot!!![IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6571.jpg[/IMG] |
   
Jos
Board Administrator Username: Jos
Post Number: 10583 Registered: 10-1999
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Yup... I'm pretty sure I'm a "he". You can ask my wife though if you like - that's Kathy over on the Chronicle of the Horse reproduction forum... The longest getational duration on record changed this last foaling season in the southern hemisphere to 445 days - check the front page of the web site for the new information. |
   
anita howard
Weanling Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 23 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:36 pm: |
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Kris, I can't imagine your mare will hold out much longer, she is almost dragging the ground. |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 65 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:46 am: |
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Kris- Good Luck tonight!!!!!!!! |
   
Angela Houle
Nursing Foal Username: Rageninvestment
Post Number: 18 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:46 am: |
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I can't see the pictures as they are blocked here at work. Sounds like your mare is ready, Kris.  |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 66 Registered: 03-2006
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Hey Kathee, Deena, Anita, her udders are almost full again, Big change from this morning and tonight i posted a pic today and just looked at it and could not believe how much she has filled over a 6 to 8 hour period. Her vulva is open while standing she will not let me check her udders tonight could it be baby is on the way? |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006
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I was really surprised by all of your answers. Thank you all so much! I have been driving my friend nuts with all the questions, I am sure, but she has been the only one to bounce off of lately. It's nice to find this site. On the udder question, Missy does have a bit of one...it's is (forgive me, this is my first foal on the way!) somewhat full in the front, as in you can see it when looking at her from the side, but the rear, near the teats, is not dropped. Her teats are reachable but I can't see them unless I am right under her. Yesterday, they felt very "flaky" and are a gray color. Also, she has some swelling on the left inner thigh, near her milk sack. Her vulva is getting longer. I was wondering about that "color" thing too so thanks for answering that one for me also! She is bubble gum pink too but she looked a little darker today... I never knew how much stress an expectant mare could cause! Best of luck to all of you too! |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 67 Registered: 03-2006
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Stormy this may help you a little here ARE A COUPLE OF WEBSITES YOU CAN LOOK AT. http://www.lifestylefarmer.com/articles/032e_foaling_signs.htm http://www.geocities.com/crayonboxminis/foalingsigns.html |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 260 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:02 am: |
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Kris......ANYTHING YET!!!!??????!!!!!???? |
   
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 298 Registered: 07-2005
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hi - Raven, I see you are checking in on Kris aswell! SUre is keeping us all on our toes hey!!? Hope your getting on well with your little one : ) |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 635 Registered: 01-2006
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you will not believe this...NOTHING!!!! all I can say is the #$$&@(*&@#& better have it tonight!!!!!!!!!!!! sometime last night she waxed again, but not amber, it is milky white hard drips? she must have also leaked because she has crystal white dried crustys on one of her legs from thigh to mid cannon bone. she did not lay down at all last night, but was pretty quiet, just ALOT of hind leg shifting. she has gotten real clumsy too...SHE HAS GOT TO GIVE IN SOMETIME!!!!!! well any thing new ill let you know, if i get a chance i will go out and take pics of her drips for you raven!!! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 637 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:41 am: |
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heres a few pics from this am udder shot and side view [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6579.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6583.jpg[/IMG] |
   
Deena
Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1
Post Number: 348 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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Aw shucks Jos if we dont pick on ya who is going to????? |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 391 Registered: 12-2005
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Kris - she has to give in sometime...I can't believe she has looked so completely ready! It would be one thing if she wasn't showing all these signs, but to drag the performance out for so long...try not to yell at your family or kick any dogs! |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 262 Registered: 03-2006
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Kris thanks for the pics! Ditto to what Kathee says! Kim W thanks for asking about Chu kash, he is growing like a weed. Sorry I have not gotten back to the journals. His week away set him back some. So I have just been going over what was done before with him. I'll try to get it started again.  |
   
Jos
Board Administrator Username: Jos
Post Number: 10585 Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:45 pm: |
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Deena... I'm married - who do you think???  |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 640 Registered: 01-2006
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ITS SHOW TIME! 1:00pm well she is pacing the fence, leaking milk all down both legs, and apples have turned to pies(poop that is ) She HAS to give in now...ill update with more as the news comes in!!! wish us luck! |
   
Deena
Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1
Post Number: 349 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 02:12 pm: |
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hmmm kinda figured she needs all the help she can get.... |
   
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 301 Registered: 07-2005
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Bout time Kris - Good luck to you both, hope to hear the right news and see some piccies VERY soon |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 68 Registered: 03-2006
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Hello everyone, well she is full again check this out yesterdays pic [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0222.jpg[/IMG] Todays pic [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0241.jpg[/IMG] now this is about the third time this has happened. |
   
Sharon Malmberg
Yearling Username: Ryu2832
Post Number: 71 Registered: 02-2006
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I was going to say that Ruby got clumsy the day she had Berry. Moving very slow and deliberately. Yeah! |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 434 Registered: 10-2005
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KRIS- how exciting !!! I sure hope that everything goes well, I'll not be in tomorrow so I'll have to wait till Monday to read what you got!!! BEST OF LUCK ((( hugs ))) Ev |
   
SANDY WEIDEMAN
Neonate Username: Codiie
Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2005
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kris, i have been watching and reading, i hope all goes well for you, I have 2 coming up very soon myself... sending good vibes for you... I will attach a link to my mares that are due [IMG]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/codiie/100_0151.jpg[/IMG] IMG]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/codiie/Copyof100_0154.jpg[/IMG] hope they work.... |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 393 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:26 pm: |
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Sandy - that first one is a big girl! She kind of reminds me of Kris's Tsaharah. They are both pretty girls. Kris - any update? An Easter baby would be nice! You could name her Tsabbath! |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 01:01 am: |
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Hey Sandy, how far along is your mare on the second pic. posted? She looks about the size of my Missy, who is 366 days today. She is a maiden Mustang. She doesn't look big compared to the other mares posted, which is kinda worrying me! Do maiden mares not fill out as much as those who have foaled before?? |
   
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 303 Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 03:21 am: |
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Hey guys- Stormy, maiden mares tend to stay a bit 'tidier' as they havent been stretched by pregnancy before, their mucsles are tighter so they tend to hold it all up better... Mine, compared to others on here, seems fairly small too - As far as I know she has only had one foal before. I was almost sure she was shrinking - I was starting to think I might get that filly after all, then I found some pics of before sahe was bred. She definatley looks pregnant now : ) Sandy - You mares a very pretty, I espeially like the first one posted - Its her facial markings - I love it! Hope you get two lovely looking healthy foals. Kris - Im just going to do the morning check - But when I come back here this afternoon, it will probably be morning for you so I will be expecting some good news : ) You seemed very excited and hopeful, fingers crossed for you.... |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 397 Registered: 12-2005
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Stormy - this is a pic of my maiden 6 hours before she foaled. This is her full dropped position (notice the lack of a V shaped stomach!). She never got very big. If your maiden looks pregnant at all, she is probably just fine. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/339dayssideview.jpg |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 398 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 06:45 am: |
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Kris - I am up playing Easter Bunny and thought I would check for an Easter baby! |
   
SANDY WEIDEMAN
Neonate Username: Codiie
Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2005
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Was checking for an easter babyalso, I hope everything went okay for you kris. Storm: The first pic is of my 15 yr old mare she is at 336 days, and the 2nd pick is my maiden mare, she is at her 331 day.. Thanks for the compliments, I do love my mares, these 2 are mother daughter and are my babies.. |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 641 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 08:34 am: |
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well my easter baby was born at 3:10 am...after quite some time of pushing...IT'S AN ABSOULUTELY PERFECT LIGHT BUCKSKIN COLT!!!!!! (ANOTHER ONE FOR JAN!!!) she leaked milk all day, kept rolling ,pacing not eating just a bite hear and there, tail going nuts...at 1 am she was just standing looking out at the other horses and biting the gate making all sorts of noise with it...was really beginning to irritate me! i gave up fell asleep, at about 2:45 hubby woke up, wheres your horse? i looked out half asleep, standing there, (*foggy eyes), then she rolled and i realized she was stiff and pushing...she was trying to push a full bag feet and nose hanging out, bag had not broke, then she rolled and stood and rolled and stood, i panicked, called vet, he talked to me till he was born. baby just nursed...that was a chore, HE knew what to do, but mom kept spinning circles. she kept pushing him everytime he got on a teat, finally he started kicking her, she left him alone and he chowed...he is napping now. HEY! how much meconium do they usually pass? he did some about 2-3 inces long...how much more? i cant post pictures yet... hubby went to sunrise service at church and took the camera to show off the new arrival!!!! as soon as he gets back i will he is beautiful big eyes, black points, LONG legs! PHEW>>>ITS OVER>>>> thanks guys for all your support! |
   
anita howard
Weanling Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 08:38 am: |
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Kris, congrats, what is his name ? Can't wait to see pics. |
   
SANDY WEIDEMAN
Neonate Username: Codiie
Post Number: 8 Registered: 05-2005
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congrats Kris, cant wait for the pics, he sounds wonderful, now you can get some long overdue sleep.. |
   
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 304 Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 09:13 am: |
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Yay! Well done to you and to T!!!! The wait is over - Im soooooooooo pleased for you!!!!!!!!! Cant wait to see pictures - I just love buckskins too, so thats a bonus in my books.CONGRATUKATIONS Im really excited for you! |
   
Lee
Neonate Username: Leejon
Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 09:41 am: |
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Congrats Kris!!! |
   
Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock Username: Heatherck11
Post Number: 181 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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Kris FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We didn't hear from you all afternoon and I was getting worried. Can't wait to see the new boy Congrats on your Easter baby! I had one on Easter years ago. Enjoy your day. |
   
Jan H
Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h
Post Number: 235 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 11:35 am: |
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ALRIGHT KRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad he finally made it....umm I better quit getting the sex of these foals right or I am gonna get a big head!!!! well at least it will fit my big butt. LOL I can not wait to see the pictures! I love buckskins! enjoy your new baby!!!!!! |
   
Deena
Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1
Post Number: 350 Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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Congradulations kris. |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 399 Registered: 12-2005
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HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!! Buckskin!!! She was cooking up something extra special...it takes a little longer to blacken the legs and points without burning the middle ! I am soooo glad you were there after all this wait. Can't wait for the pics!!!! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 642 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:14 pm: |
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ok here is a couple pics. one at about 10 mins old, the other about 5 hours. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6596.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6618.jpg[/IMG] hes so cute!!! |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 400 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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Wow! Well worth the wait, Kris! I am so happy for you! My entire family has been locked into the Tsaharah drama as I keep them updated on the board happenings. Everyone here is relieved for the healthy delivery and excitied for the color! |
   
anita howard
Weanling Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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Very handsome guy !!!!! |
   
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 402 Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 01:35 pm: |
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Kris- sorry I forgot about the meconium question. My girl passed a lot more than 2 or 3 inches total - more like 2 or 3 inches 4 or 5 times. On the last, she was really straining so we gave her a Fleet enema and whoosh! she was done! We probably should have done that earlier, but the others passed easily. Next time, I will probably just give the enema up front. |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 267 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:41 pm: |
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CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!!!! Kris and T it is about time she gave you that extra secial delivery. That is the best Easter present the bunny could ever have left you!!!! Very handsome colt and a BUCKSKIN too boot!!! Enjoy your day with the bundle of joy! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 643 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 03:09 pm: |
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thanks guys!!! i like him. he did go more, was getting loose the last timehe went. he is pretty friendly, will come to you when you walk in...pretty neat. right now i am actually at my moms, driving me crazy cuz they are at home! hoping to get home early enough to check them before dark. well ill pst pics again when i get some better ones. again...thanks guys! |
   
Jan H
Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h
Post Number: 237 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 03:24 pm: |
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He is gorgeous!!!!! yep my foals all usually passes the meconium for about 5 or hours, then the mustard comes. good luck he is a beautiful foal and I know you just cant wait to get your hands on him again! get some rest too Kris. |
   
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 310 Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 04:19 pm: |
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Ahhhhhhh - He really is a cutie. Glad to see/hear both are doing fine - Enjoy them tomorrow : )After you had some sleep.... Beautiful colour by the way!My dad was impressed with that colour - and normaly he say 'well, a hores is a horse isnt it?' Very useful!! |
   
Marie
Nursing Foal Username: Lilbitkansas
Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 05:15 pm: |
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Congrats Kris!!!!!!!!! What a handsome fella he is. Love the color. That is such a great Easter gift. Now I just wish Classy would follow suit. She is still playing the games. Here is a link to her newest pics. Oh the password is kiarra I had to redo all her pics apparently someone complained to photobucket about the vulva shots that were showing the inside of her vulva. ROFL I guess even though they were all in her pregnancy album someone took offense. http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Poise%20Sun%20AQHA%2 0Mare%20Pregnancy%20Timeline%20Pics/ Hope everyone has a great Easter |
   
Elena Vieira
Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal
Post Number: 80 Registered: 11-2005
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CONGRATS KRIS!!! He is sooo cute! Love his color. Do you have any names? My mare was due today but nooo. Well at least you have a great easter present.
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Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 645 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 10:09 pm: |
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thanks guys! he is so friendly and curious, checks everyone out, even the cat...hes a sweetie, the family is calling him JUNIOR... for whatever reason im not sure...but hubby says well until he has a name its junior! hes so little looking compared to all your qh, tb's and paints!!! i feel like i have a midget! but a cute one! he is a bit dropped on his rear fetlocks today, if he is tomarrow hte vet will come out and splint him for a couple days. He was out running around trying to rear and kick...we just played with him for about an hour...yes tonight will be some well earned sleep...had 1 1/2 hours last night and no nap today! thats what im doing as soon as i am done here! no real names yet, still thinking,,,suggestions welcome...trying to find something to do with Easter and start with an "S" (actually T bus S sound)...any ideas? well ill post pics tomarrow of him up and running...he sure knows how to do it already...it is so darn cute well im probably partial but you know... well off to ZZZ land... talk to ya tomarrow! |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 11:42 pm: |
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Anita H- Any Luck yet with your mare? My mares udder came back friday and now she has a thicker liquid coming out of her looks like fried milk when dried on black plastic. It is so weird she deflated 4 times at this point, I wonder what is next for her? |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 12:19 am: |
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Happy Easter everyone! Can someone please tell me how to use "photo bucket"? Congrats Kris! Mommy and baby are both beautiful! |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 12:22 am: |
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Kris, here's a thought.."TsEasterbunny" |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 73 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 01:23 am: |
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Stormy- to use photo bucket go to photo bucket.com create user name and password to down load pics you can select the # of pics you want to down load then click the browse section it will take you to your files click on the file your pics are in select pic then when finished with that click submit to post to this site or anyother site highlite the IMG under the pic by left clicking then right click and select copy and go to place you want to post and right click and select paste if you need more help let me know. Anita K |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2006
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thank you Anita! |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2006
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Here are some pics of my Mustang, Missy...sorry for the under the tail shot (taken today) but I've heard that's a good indicator? She seems to be getting longer by the day and is somewhat wrinkly around the vulva area. How much bigger do they get?? The other shots are from yesterday and today... [IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i299/StormyRood/7855ba27.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i299/StormyRood/0e2d49a6.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i299/StormyRood/Apr16747.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i299/StormyRood/11b686b7.jpg[/IMG] |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 435 Registered: 10-2005
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Kris- it's about time !! I'm SO glad that everything went well. As far as I know ( didn't check before I left this morning as it was O dark thirty ) we still don't have any more babies. Charles is home after the scare he gave us on Thursday but still not himself, I think maybe the steroids they have him on are affecting his mood somewhat. Today he gets to cut the dosage in half again so maybe I'll see some improvement over the next couple of days. I'm not sure why, but when he had the leakage of fluid it appears to have affected his facial muscles. (rather like a stroke might have) his left eye does not blink sometimes and his mouth sags on that side as well, this could be part of the reason he's not himself too, I think he's worried that he looks odd. Anyway, I'll update on the horses when something happens. EV PS they didn't sell Listolena after all, he brought $33,500 at the sale and they passed.. lucky for me, Avery and Sage will definately have his foals next spring now! |
   
anita howard
Weanling Username: Mofoxtrottr
Post Number: 30 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 07:10 am: |
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Anita K. Things are status-quo. Her udder has been up at night and down in the morning. She was really sluggish this moring. I moved her out of the round pen during the day, I hate her being in there all the time. She is a maiden mare at 356 days today. Stormy-nice mustang. Does she ride ? |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 649 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 07:47 am: |
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Ev- Is ot possible whats called bells palsy? which is inflamation of the nerve that runs through the bony canal of hte ear and affects the face? I had that 13 years ago, just all of a sudden my eye started watering, noise seemed louder and my face had feeling but felt like it was numb, and didnt work, it was paralyzed, only one side, CT scans done because they thought it was a stroke. The treatment is steroids(prednisone) and sometimes it (the use) comes back completely, other times not at all, and other times like mine, partially, but with mine the nerve partially died and when it regrew it reattached wrong, so now if i smile my eye closes, and if i close my eye my corner of my mouth raises, if i try to raise my eyebrow my nose moves. I totally sypmathise with him, I was crabby, felt like i looked rediculous, was self conscious about how i looked, I still do not like photos of myself because I do not like to see my face this way. I hope his comes back. Thankfully he is out of immediate danger of his life anyway!!! that is good news. yep she finally had her baby! and he sure was worth the wait! YEAHHHHH!!!! so cisco will hace siblings next year! that is awesome!!!! I hope you get your wanted filly!!! have a good day! new pics from yesterday eve on hte foal brag pictures thread. |
   
Darlene Folkersma
Neonate Username: Edanddar
Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2006
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Kris congratulation on the colt. He's beautiful. Ev, I really hope your husband feels better soon. Stormy- really nice mustang, I think I missed when she is due? |
   
Jan H
Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h
Post Number: 243 Registered: 01-2006
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Stormy she is a nice mustang, she looks like she has some time to go I guess a filly for her but maidens are hard to predict so I am going with my gut on this one. Evie I hope your husband gets better soon and ends your worrying...I know what that is like my husband is losing his sight in one eye and I have been worried sick about it. Hang in there! Kris I have a good friend that had Bells Palsy she has recovered about 90% back but still has the inner ear problems with her balance. I hope everything goes well for your husband Evie. We love you just the way you are Kris! Your beautiful in our eyes! |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 436 Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 10:28 am: |
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Jan, Darlene & Kris, the tumor was laying on top of the facial nerve and we knew that there could be damage to it with the surgery. (as well as many other vital nerves that run through that same area) there is a chance that it could become stronger and more normal with time..we just have to wait and see. (lucky for us his balance is ok) it worries me a little about his vision not being the same and with the fluid that is pooling in his facial and neck area there is a chance he may have to go back into surgery again. Keep your fingers crossed for us, I'm getting worn a little slick now. ( poor horses might be holding out till things settle down as they know they won't be getting a lot of help with deliveries at this stage in the game!) The remaining mares due to foal will hit 320 days this week, when they start coming, there could be several at one time! Ev |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2006
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Thanks. Missy's my "other" baby. I have three daughters too; one three year old and two year old twins, who are about to turn three in July. My oldest won't be three until September. Between them and the horse, I am quite busy! Missy is in the process of being broke. I have been on her quite a few times but she still needs some work. I have had her for nearly seven years now but it seems like something else has always happened just as I was in the process of training her. I have had quite a few surgeries over the past few years (2- C-sections, a hysterectomy and my Gall Bladder removed) as well as a lot of serious female problems to where if I did somehow get thrown from her, it would REALLY mess things up! I am happy to say that at 28, I finally have a clean bill of health and we will start the training process once again once the foal is born. We have really bonded the last few months to where she follows me around and rubs her head on me constantly. The scary part of her being ready to foal soon is that she lives 15-20 minutes away at my in-laws out in the country, so I'm only with her about four days a week. She has nearly an acre to herself (soon to be shared by the foal). One set back we occured on the training was actually the way the breeding was handled. A family friend had rode a beautiful paint up to my in-laws house in March of last year. Missy had been in heat and causing quite a stir on the property so I jokingly told him to take the paint in and breed her. I was amazed when he agreed! We let the paint in the pasture and although he was rearing to go, Missy didn't want a thing to do with him! It just figures she was out of season by that time! We planned to try again once she started showing signs of being in heat. Around that time, I was scheduled for my hysterectomy and breeding my horse was about the last thing on my mind. On April 14, 2005, my in-laws took it upon themselves to have the paint brought up (WIHTOUT my knowledge or consent) and tied Missy to a tree. She broke the rope and threw my father-in-law, who had been holding her against her will) over the fence (which he deserved!) They left the paint in with her over night and didn't tell me anything until days later. I was furious! Mustang's are a little more timid by nature, and Missy was scared of even me! It took weeks for me to earn back her trust even though I did nothing wrong in the situation. The only good thing that came out of it was the foal! That's why I'm so emotionally attached to this pregnancy, besides the fact that it's mine and Missy's first. Sorry for the long posting but maybe this background will help. She is 368 days pregnant today. |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 10:49 am: |
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Ev- I wish your husband a quick recovery. That must be so scary! You poor thing, I bet you're not getting ANY rest at all between him and the horses! Take care of yourself too...best wishes |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 438 Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |
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Stormy- thanks for the well wishes, I am a little on the tired side at this point. Hopefully, all will come out ok with him and I'm hoping mother nature takes care of the mares and fillies.. I'm not sure I'll be able to lend them a hand at this point! |
   
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock Username: Raven
Post Number: 280 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 04:15 pm: |
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Ev I hope you do take it easy and relax if you can. You have been through alot lately and we do not want to see you go down hill as well. If it is only seasoned mares that you have left then.. yes.. do let mother nature take care of them. Your health and well beening is more important to both you, your hubby and then horses! Take care and best wishes for all!  |
   
Nicole Burrows
Neonate Username: Sevenhorses
Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 05:23 pm: |
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Hi everyone! My mare is on day 356. This is her third foal. The first foal (a colt) was born on day 347 and the second foal (a filly) was born on day 344. Some folks around here (Southern Oregon) are reporting that their mares are going close to a year this time around. They're blaming it on the weather! Evie, my husband had retina surgery recently and now, this week, goes back for a simpler cataract surgery. I just want you to know that I sympathize with you regarding the worrying about our husbands' well-being. My husband's worst fear is of going blind, so this has been hard on him. He's a little older than me, so I'm getting a real look at the aging process. How come it doesn't happen when we're young and have the energy to cope with it? Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I'm losing sleep over this "late" baby. This is the surviving twin from last spring when my vet pinched one of the twins. It was a hard decision to let him do that. I wonder if that had anything to do with this long gestation? Now I'm going out to look for those "slab sides" you all have been talking about. This morning I remember thinking it was good to see how huge her belly was, but that was before reading about the slab sides being a sign of imminent foaling. Goodbye for now, and best wishes for all of your horses and husbands! |
   
Stormy Rood
Neonate Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 07:02 pm: |
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I have a quick fescue question...I know Missy has not been fed fescue hay but how do I tell if it's in the grass in her pasture? I live in Northern California; North of Sacramento, South of Chico. |
   
Stormy Rood
Nursing Foal Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 01:28 pm: |
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Nicole, Welcome to the forum. Everyone on here is really nice and informative although there hasn't been much activity on this one site for a couple of days. I too think the longer gestation may have something to do with this strange weather we're having this year! I live in Northern CA and we have had more rain than sun. It has been nice the last two days and our forecast here looks like mostly sunny throughout this week (knock on wood). I am hoping and praying for a nice healthy foal sometime real soon. My mare is over a year now, day 369. I'm sorry about the twin situation. That must have been hard! I don't know anything about twins in horses or much on pregnant mares in general as this is my first. I do wish you lots of luck with the foaling though. Hopefully knowing you're not alone on the "late" part will help some! There is an article that you may find helpful. You can find the link above. It was posted by a few people, one of them was Jos, who wrote it. It's titled "Is my mare overdue?" Hope this helps... |
   
Nicole Burrows
Neonate Username: Sevenhorses
Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 02:36 pm: |
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Thank you for the welcome, Stormy. Gosh, I thought my mare was late but yours is REALLY giving you sleepless nights and weeks! Everyone says they have to foal eventually, though! I looked for the V shape of my mare's belly but she's still a great big huge O. What are you hoping for -- a colt or a filly? This is our 5th foal (in 6 years) and we hope for a colt this time, because the sire died a couple of months ago, and there are lots of hopes and dreams tied up in his last two foals -- both dams were due two weeks ago or so and are later than they've ever been. These are Quarter Horse cowponies. What's yours? |
   
Stormy Rood
Nursing Foal Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 03:36 pm: |
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Hi Nicole, Missy is a Mustang. This is her first foal. I don't much care what I get so long as it's healthy. As far as colts go, at what age do you need to separate them from their dam so they don't try to breed them? This is my first time so I don't know too much on that stuff yet. If you go up just a ways on the forum, I have a LONG posting on Missy and the breeding, etc. and there are some pictures farter up from April 17. Sorry to hear about the sire. I hope all goes well with the foals and that you get your wish! good luck! |
   
Cconner
Nursing Foal Username: Cconner
Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 04:21 pm: |
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Ev- hang in there, life is always throwing new challenges at us (keep your chin up and throw it all back). I'm keeping you in my thoughts, my husband had open heart surgery when he was 22 and his main valve was replaced with a mechanical one. Like I said try to keep your chin up ( I know you and your husband are in everyone'e thoughts)!!!!!!!! Kris- congratulations, what a beautiful baby. Sorry I missed the posts for the last few days, it took me forever to get caught up. Post more pics when you get some, they change so quick. Ev- are your babies out of Listolena this year? Is the sell that you were talking about in Missouri? I will have to find my sell catalog again but I am almost positive that he was consigned at a sell about 45 minutes from my house. I usually make to most of those sells but was too busy last weekend. Anyways, Listolena is a nice stallion, I am really partial to cutting and reining horses. If you are familiar with reining, I used to work for the late Randy Cutbirth from Willard, Missouri, what a great trainer!!! He passed away almost a year ago and my yealing stud colt is out of his Great Pine stud. |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 660 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:09 am: |
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cc thank you! I think hes absoulutely adorable, but i think i may be partial! nicloe B-mine never got slab sided! up till an hour prior to birth ( i did not see her her last hour until she was down to push) she was as wide as ever, she just got a litte narrower the day or two before, but was still a cow! she did drop low though from the side view, but it was deceiving, if i looked at her as a whole it did not look real low and v'd, but then i took a pic of her just bottom line without her topline, and that is when i saw it!!! |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 446 Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 08:42 am: |
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Cconner- thanks for the well wishes, we will make it through this, things seem to be improving by little bits daily. 6 of our babies are out of Listolena this year. You are correct, he was consigned to that sale in Mo last weekend but they passed him out and brought him back home. (the high bid was $33,500) So far this year we've had 4 stud colts born out of him, & we have two mares left to foal Listo babies. All the colts will be for sale with the exception of my dun colt, I'm keeping him to see if he'll make a future stud prospect. Kris- are you still on cloud nine? I think that baby is well worth the long nights that you put in waiting for it! |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 88 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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she has white milk as of this morning her stools look like cow patties ( Loose) she has been scratching and rubbing her rump all day. I hope this is a good sign I am ready for her to have this Foal. She still will not let me check her vulva and she is not dripping milk but it is white.  |
   
Stormy Rood
Weanling Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 26 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:05 pm: |
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Good luck Anita! I'm sending you well wishes and good foaling vibes! love, Stormy |
   
anita kabat
Yearling Username: Akabat
Post Number: 91 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 01:20 am: |
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thanks stormy it looks like we are the night owls on this site |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 663 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 06:47 am: |
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Ev- yep still on cloud 9! hes jsut so cute and friendly...cant hepl but to love him! his hind fetlocks look pretty good today, his knees are still a bit bucked though, but he is only 4 days old! doesnt seem to slow him down. yesterday when i went to go get them to put them in she ran from me, and ran and ran, and of course he followed... they ran for 30 minutes straight, he stood and napped for 10 minutes and then they ran for 10 more. It was so good for T, she is eating and drank last night, she is also beginning to push out a bit of that brownish slime. so nice to see them both feeling good and enjoying themselves!! |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 452 Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 11:43 am: |
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Kris- I'm so glad it went well and they are all feeling better. Don't fret too much about his front legs, they'll straighten out in time with exercise I bet. We had one like that last year and he did, it just took a little while. So are you going to breed T back this year? |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 666 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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oh man Ev that is a tough one...i origionally planned to, and vet told me i should just to sell, sine he is " a nearly perfect foal for a cross beteen QH and arab" accroding to him. but I tell you, she seemed to have so much trouble, Im just not sure it is worth it! Also when he was so sick, laying on hte ground shivering, rolling onto his back legs tucked up to his body, neck stretched out chin exposed I said lots of prayers like this "Lord just make him ok, Lord if you can do that I dont think ill breed again this year!" so I am not sure after making a deal like that with the man upstairs Id better not push my luck... I may keep the QH mare that foaled last year and breed her, she is younger, but id like to sell her too and buy one with a bit more stocky build, she is built more like a TB, no offense to TB owners, but I am heavier built so I like a heavier built horse, thus the reason I bred my arab to a QH, to try to thicken it a bit! so I am unsure what I will do...but I tellyou seeing what a beautiful baby she made with a QH, it is defineately tempting!!!!! I turned them out today for awhile, to run a bit before it rains, I spent 20+ minutes chasing her around trying to catch her to bring her in as hte rain approaches, finally i walked away and waited till he layed down, I knew she would not run off if he was laying...ha! it worked, she tried to get him up, she nickered and walked, he just looked up, I got her then he got up...PHEW! so they are in now, and i am building a small pasture to put her in...lots less chasing...till she dedcides to let me catch her...thats 2 days in a row i had to chase her...and i dont want Jericho to learn that crap! UGH...she has not done this for 10 years!!! (i guess since her last foal...part of hte protection thing i suppose). so in the meanitme she has to eat hay...pasture grass will have to wait! |
   
Stormy Rood
Weanling Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 46 Registered: 04-2006
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Kris, I'm happy to hear that T and Jericho are doing better! I know that takes a load off you. That was scary just reading about it, living it would be a nightmare! Especially after all the waiting you had to do just to get Jericho! Missy used to play that chase game after the way she was bred. It drove me nuts! It would be at least a half hour of chase before I could catch her, usually longer. Her pasture is almost an acre so I was tired afterward! I needed the exercise anyway, but come on...now I bribe her with a little handful of grain or another goodie. She's gotten much better lately. I hope she doesn't start that game again once she has the foal. I can't imagine chasing two! I couldn't lock her in anywhere if I wanted to though, so I just let her have full pasture access. That's all she's ever known. As far as you breeding T again, I get both sides of what you're facing. How old is she now anyway? Good luck with whatever you decide! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 668 Registered: 01-2006
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Stormy- she is 17 years old. So not a spring chicken! I try to bribe her, i feed her grain afteri catch her with the theory if she dont get caught she dont eat...no luck, tried applesm treats...she knows the drill, she just wants to be outside, that is what she is used to, she has not been penned up for 10 years. If it were 70 and raining i would not worry, i would just let her be outside, but with 46 degrees (F)and rain...thats just too cold for a 4 day old! I will be builing a fence that attaches to her pen and barn, so if i chase her she has no choince but to go inside and i can shut hte gate...taadaaa! caught! theres olenty of grass in that area anyway, soit will work fine... just have to do it! If hte rain subsides a bit i will start it today while the daycare kiddies are napping...thank goodness for monitors! and i am only 20 feet from hte house. I have a few weeks to decide, i will not breed on foal heat, and i may even wait another cycle too, this is borderline early for not having a heated barn...soo....I will ponder! |
   
Stormy Rood
Weanling Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 47 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 02:43 pm: |
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Good luck Kris, sounds like the plans are laid...but the rain is such a pain in the butt! I am in Northern CA and it has rained and rained here. We finally got some nice weather but are looking at more rain this weekend. YUCK! Wow, with the temp. and rain, I see your point...don't need Jericho out in that! Day care kids, your own kids and horses...my, you are one busy lady! Good luck.. |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 454 Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 07:47 am: |
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Kris- I know what you mean, I really did not want to breed Sage again this year, she's young and I have plenty of time.. or I did till they planned to sell Listolena. I'll take her in another week or so and see if she stuck. (this was the first cycle after her foal heat) I bred Avery on her foal heat and I have a feeling that she's pregnant, her cycle shut down pretty quickly after she was covered. Sage had a prolonged heat so she may not have settled. I'll let you know when I find out something, Ev |
   
melissa
Breeding Stock Username: Mbgirl
Post Number: 186 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 01:55 pm: |
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Hello, My mare is now 340 days today. I hope she foals soon. I got up with her for the last several nights no luck. I was thinking after the heavy rains on Friday we would have a foal this morning. I check on her this morning for the final time before feeding time, she was laying down at 5:15am I just knew she was going to foal. She didn't have the foal yet,after she was laying a little while she got up went to eating again. I think she is playing games with me. I would love to put there when she foals this time, but I don't think she will do it while I am there. I miss her foaling last year.Maybe she will foal tonight. I was told that some mares foal close to the same time as before, if so she should foal about 5 am something. Do you if this is true or not? THANKS melissa |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 678 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 07:22 am: |
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EV_ I have officially decided to NOT breed Tsaharah again...as beautiful of a baby as i got and all with the problems over the last week...SHE IS OFFICIALLY RETIRED FROM BREEDING!!!! sad...sad...sad!!! but she just has had one prob after another!!! Ill just have to buy another mare to breed!!!  |
   
E Watkins
Breeding Stock Username: Evie
Post Number: 463 Registered: 10-2005
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Kris- sounds like you've made the right decision, and where's the down side to buying another mare? LOL I'll know later this week if Sage is back in foal, I'm keeping my fingers crossed! |
   
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock Username: Kris
Post Number: 681 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:47 pm: |
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I hope she is ev! another cisco would be good! see my post under skinny foal, after yesterday i dont even want another mare...i am ready to sell half of what i have now due to the stress this last week!!!! |
   
melissa
Breeding Stock Username: Mbgirl
Post Number: 195 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 06:58 pm: |
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Hello, My paint mare Annie is now 349 days. We have been watching her closely. I don't understand why she hasn't foaled yet. We wanted a April foal, but if she holds out it will be May in two days. I hope Annie and the foal are okay. The vet does not sound worried about her yet. I gave her the shots back in March 19, 2006. Will have to give the shots again if she don't foal soon? When will you have to give the shots again, if they go to long?We live in Mississippi. We are going to have rain tonight, so we will see.The weather might get bad, I hope not.This is Annie four foal, she has done great before. HELP!! Melissa |
   
melissa
Breeding Stock Username: Mbgirl
Post Number: 196 Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 06:59 pm: |
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Hello, Annie is 10 yrs old by the way. thanks MELISSA |
   
melissa
Breeding Stock Username: Mbgirl
Post Number: 207 Registered: 01-2006
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Hello Everyone, My mare Annie foaled at 351 days, she foaled May 3,2006. Annie had a bay and white tobiano filly. www.photobucket.com/albums/e329/MBhorses/MBAnnie2006filly Take care and those who are still waiting hang in there.I have one more mare due in about 2 weeks. melissa |
   
Stormy Rood
Breeding Stock Username: Stormyrood
Post Number: 149 Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 01:33 am: |
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Melissa, Congratulations!!! Both mommy and baby are beautiful. I love their markings! |
   
anita kabat
Breeding Stock Username: Akabat
Post Number: 150 Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 03:14 am: |
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Congrats very nice looking filly |