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Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 29
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 08:54 pm: | 
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Does this look like really enlarged milk veins or some sort of swelling under her belly? I just cant tell. It was like this when I checked her this morning, but is much bigger tonight. I would hate to dismiss it as nothing serious, if I need to have the vet look at her. She is at 346 days.
http://photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/?action=view¤t=325tummybump.j pg |
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock
Username: Raven
Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 09:10 pm: |
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I would say they are not milk veins. How old is your mare? Not to worry you but the only other picture I had seen of a mare like that is when I was looking up prepubic tendons. It said that older mares some times get that just before they are to foal. If I can find the article I will put it up here. If not maybe Jos can help on that. |
Joanna
Yearling
Username: Joanna
Post Number: 100
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 09:28 pm: |
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They don't look like milk veins to me. I agree with Raven, they kinda look like prepubic tendons. If I were you, I would call the vet. |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 114
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 09:30 pm: |
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http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/rupture.shtml
check this site out... This is what prepubic tendon ruptures look like.. Your mare looks nothing like that.... If your mare had that you would not need to ask if you should call the vet, you would KNOW to call the vet.
Your mare looks fine except that she looks a little underweight.. her back bone is really high..
after the baby i would make sure to do an IGG on the foal 12-18 hrs after it's birth to make sure it got enough colostrum and then slowly start adding food to your mare because the baby will drain your mare.. It will pull the mare down in a hurry and then you will have a hard time trying to get it back on her....
Good kluck and i hope your mare foals soon for you.. i am on foal watch also.. My mare was due on the 15th.... she is at day 345 now...
www.freewebs.com/outlawpaints/
This is our site... and our horses... Good luck! hope these links work for you!! |
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock
Username: Raven
Post Number: 142
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 09:39 pm: |
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Beverly if you look at all the pic that Dianne has the one labeled mar 25 profile you can see that the swelling is farther back close to her udders This can all be the begining of a prepubic tendon or just edema. The mare is also short in the back which may make it more pronounced looking. Just my opinion on what I see in comparision in those two pictures. Who knows I could be wrong! |
Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 31
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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She is about 11 or 12 years old. I dont have any history on her, except that the man I bought her from said she had lost a foal right before I got her 2 years ago. She is underweight, she has had a very stressful pregnancy. She was bred in April and hurricane Katrina came in Aug. She weathered it in the pasture, all our fences were down, we had about 40 or 50 trees down on our 80 acres. She and Drew the foals dad got out and were lost for 2 days. We had no electricity for almost a month so fresh water was short, had trouble getting gas for the generators, feed and hay. They both lost weight, we moved to Arkansas to finish the school year and have been trying very hard to build them back up and it has been a challenge. The other 5 horses are looking really good, but it has been harder on her I guess because she is pregnant.
I had seen the above mentioned website, I guess that was part of what concerned me. The swelling is actually around the front of her ribcage, it is like two humps, one on each side about the side of my hand. She is a short stockly horse. She has been very active in her pen the last 36 hours, having no problem standing or walking, trotting, moving around alot, very vocal. She doesnt seem to be in pain. I just dont know. The barn is a mile from the house we are living in so it is kinda hard to keep an eye on her. I check on her 5 or 6 times a day.
I am going to check her again. |
Danielle Roosen-Runge
Yearling
Username: Rolling_hills_quarter_horses
Post Number: 69
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 11:48 pm: |
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Looks to me like she has edema... pretty common towards the end of pregnancy... I would just be feeding her extremely well to make sure the foal gets the maximum out of her milk.
I hope everything is alright with her! Good luck, keep us posted! |
Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11
Post Number: 144
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 12:48 am: |
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Hiya,
My mare had episodes of edema like the ones you pictured frequently during the last few months of gestation. It would develop when she was stalled for longer than usual, reduced exercise, etc.
After getting her out and moving around..it would go down.
One note, years ago I had a mare that would get 4 inch wide edema along her milk veins, lots of 'pitting', right before she foaled. It was quite dramatic, but went reduced w/in a few days of foaling.
Let us know how she does. So excited to see that more mares will be foaling soon. |
Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock
Username: Raven
Post Number: 145
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:33 am: |
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Dianne, sorry to hear that you had to experiance Katrina first hand. Very glad to hear all made it through and your were able to get and keep all your horses. Hope you did not lose to much.
Have you tried Cocasoya oil for those two. It should have been given earlier but it still will not hurt now to give it to them. When ever I have had a horse that is too skinny or just not up to par in the grocery department I use that product. Within two weeks you will notice a difference in their appearance. To find out about Cocasoya oil go to www.uckele.com . They are a equine health and nutrition place. Good luck with your mare, heres hoping for a foal soon for you! |
Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 32
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 05:20 pm: |
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Update, the swelling is still about the same, no better but no worse. Her bag is noticeibly fuller today and her vulva seems to be swollen. She was yawning and is eating well. She is friskier than she has been is weeks, the weather is beautiful today---it has been in the 30/40 for the last week and raining alottt. It is about 60 and the sun is shining, I think she likes it as much as I do. I was going to put her out in the pasture with the other horses for awhile, but the man we are renting pasture from is putting out ash topdress on the field---that is not dangerous for the horses is it?
Maybe it wont be long now. New Moon is wed, does that mean anything?????
thanks for all the input, it has keep me from worrying myself to death.
Dianne |
Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11
Post Number: 146
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:07 pm: |
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Dianne,
"supposively" yawning, at least repetitively, is a sign of impending foaling....
I watched for this in my mare this year, and well...she did seem to yawn alot (now I am  ).
I have no idea if there is any truth to it, but it is certainly interesting if nothing else!
Between the yawning and continual butt pressing....my mare did eventually foal (no kidding huh?).
Let us know when she has it! |
Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj
Post Number: 198
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:50 pm: |
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Dianne - we did the Katrina thing first hand, too. The barn lost it's roof and they ran to the pasture and weathered it out there. This season is just around the corner...I hope it is better, but they are predicting worse, not that I can image worse than Katrina.
My mare has been yawning for about 2 weeks so I wouldn't put too much weight in that being a "soon" sign, just more of a late pregnancy symptom. The swollen vulva and large bag sound like more reliable signs. |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 115
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 07:36 pm: |
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Diane,
this is not my best picture to show you about the edema, but this mare had it really bad.. she walked around for almost a month after the baby was born with the edema still.. I don't think you have much to worry about... If she is that close, i wouldn't worry too much...
From what i could see on the picture (really dark) I would have to say edema. I have some other photo's i could send without links if you want to see. what i am talking about... just feed her good and keep her warm and make sure you have the baby tested (IGG) soon after birth..
Don't get overly worried. if you do, you will run yourself crazy.. IF IT BOTHERS YOU AND YOU WORRY SO BAD, FOR YOUR PEACE OF MIND, CALL YOUR VET!!
Besides this is basicaly a been there dont that or I heard it can happen this way board.. VERY GOOD BOARD, but people's opinions.
Nothing beats ayour vets opinion. Free opinions are always GREAT but not always what's best.
If Jo's was on this board he would tell you.. i trust in him.
If it bother's you though seriously, call your vet. It's best to spend money on a call or even an emergency call than to wait to long and say well they said it was this or that and have doubts.. Do what feels right to you..
Good Luck and hope your mare foals soon (mine too) and it is uneventful other than being really excited. LOL.
Keep us informed and let us know how it turns out.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/2342603760060158556rWJtXP |
Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 34
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:31 pm: |
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Beverly,
I am aware this board is just people talking about their horses. I was raised on a dairy farm and have been around animals all my life, but never a pregnant mare. I also know you learn alot by talking to people who have been though the things you are going though. If I felt Zorro or her baby were in danger I would call the vet in a heartbeat(my sons girlfriends mother and father are both vets), but she doesnt seem to be in distress. I do like to learn everything I can about what is happening to my horse so I will know what to watch for and learn about it for next time. I have learned alot from the board by reading post and then doing research on the web.
Thanks to all you guys who have been willing to share with me.
Zorro is still holding on day 348, seems to be feeling well, still swollen, eating everything in sight. |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 116
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 02:28 pm: |
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Hi Dianne,
I know you would call if you were worried.. i just wanted to express the way i felt about it... not venting just letting you know ( as i am sure you already know) you know your horse better than anyone, and i don't think you have any problems with your mare. she is a beautiful mare and i am sure she will have a gorgeous baby... what is she bred to?
The "bumps" are basically like "skid plates" (lol) she will flatten out on the bottom and will be having you a gorgeous baby in no time....
good luck! |
Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 36
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 02:18 pm: |
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The wait is over! Zorro delivered all by herself in the wee hours this morning. A little paint stud!! She seems to be fine and the baby is fine. Had the vet out a little while ago. The edema is alittle worse but not terrible. Took care of both of them and all is well. The stud is a Tovera sorrel, Beverly. His pic is on our photobucket too, here are a few pics
http://photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/?sc=1&multi=3&addtype=local&media=i mage
Thanks for all your support guys!! |
Beverly Outlaw
Breeding Stock
Username: Outlawpaints
Post Number: 117
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 09:23 pm: |
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Dianne,
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! He is just sooooo adorable.... He looks like a pali, like his mom.
So glad everything is going great!!!! |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 469
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 06:35 am: |
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Dianne- I would say palomino paint as well!
he is too cute! congratulations!  (boo hoo when is it my turn!) |
Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 41
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:35 am: |
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Kris, hang in there, it will be worth it! I know exactly how you feel. The minute you walk in that barn and see that baby you will forget all this misery of waiting. Then the new obsession takes over watching every move that baby makes, calling everyone, emailing pics. It is a rush!
Good luck!
Dianne |
Dianne Edwards
Weanling
Username: Mamaedwards
Post Number: 42
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 12:30 pm: |
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New Pics of baby!
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http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/?action=view¤t=z.jpg
http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/?action=view¤t=shyz.jpg
http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/?action=view¤t=curiousz.j pg |
Kris Moos
Breeding Stock
Username: Kris
Post Number: 482
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 01:29 pm: |
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DIANNE- HE IS CUTE, HE LOOKS SO LITTLE, YOU COULD JUST HOLD HIM!!! BTW YOUR PICS WERENT BAD AT ALL!) |
Kim Winter
Breeding Stock
Username: Clafairy
Post Number: 253
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 02:58 am: |
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Ahh, What lovely colouring! Ive never seen one like that. Thats great, well done!! |
