Equine-Reproduction.com Bulletin Board   Topics Page Register Profile Log Out Help     New Posts Last 1|3|7 Days Search Tree View   Posting is restricted to registered board members only to prevent spamming of the board. We regret the necessity of this action, but hope you will appreciate the importance of the integrity of the board. Registration is free and information provided during the process will not be submitted to third parties. Let's post picture of our pregnant mares-Part Two Equine-Reproduction.com Bulletin Board » Pregnant Mare and the Newborn Foal - Volume 1 » Let's post picture of our pregnant mares-Part Two « Previous Next » Author Message   windy fillmore Weanling Username: Windyf Post Number: 49 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 09:56 pm:        Hope you guys don't mind but I got tired of shifting back and forth. This should be easier. Jan H - Here are some new photos of Rosie she is at day 308. I just want your honest opinion on colt or filly since you know how much I want a filly. Mainly I want healhty. And I do know I am due a colt. Thanks so much, I do value your opinion. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/rosiesideviewatday308.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/rosierearatday308.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/Rosiefrontday308.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/rosiefrontatday308.jpg   windy fillmore Weanling Username: Windyf Post Number: 50 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 09:59 pm:        Hey Deena what do you think colt or filly? How was your week?   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 261 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:15 pm:        mmm Im thinking filly windy.Im still waiting on baby (sigh)Rosie is looking good.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 148 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:23 pm:        ummm I want to say filly but gee I hate to say this but it feels/looks like a colt she is hanging pretty low for not dropping yet. But for you I want it to be a filly because I know that is what you are hoping for. But I pray it will be healthy and strong and I know it will be beautiful!!!!!   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 52 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:24 pm:        Thanks we love her we bought her 6 years ago from a horse trader for $400 because she is blind in one eye, 6 months later we got a suprise colt. She has turned out to be the best trail riding horse. She has the sweetest foals. When is your baby due?   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 53 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:29 pm:        Thanks Jan she has started a bag so we should be down to 4 weeks.We are expecting color as she is bred to a palomino (sooty or dun) Oh by the way I got a camera from harbour feight today putting it up tomorrow. I'm real excited about that camera.   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 182 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:46 am:        Windy - I really like rosie, and she looks great - Her ears are always forward in the pictures and she just looks so friendly. Must be looking forward to your new arrival. Also - thanks for starting the new thread!!! I waited ages to get into the other and my computer just wouldnt load it. Its much easier to get into now, well done.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 151 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 05:38 pm:        Well I am still waiting on one of my mares Jade who is fully bagged up relaxed but her teats need to get a bit fuller/longer here is a link to the picture I took tonight. so I wait, could be tonight may be a week from now who knows. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/2a24bb07.jpg   Jenn Breeding Stock Username: Jenn Post Number: 134 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 05:57 pm:        Good luck Jan. I still have my fingers crossed for a medicine hat for you.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 281 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 06:21 pm:        well mine seems to have gone backwards!!! yesterday i could have swore she was beginning to bag...today...nope, she has lost her low pointy belly and is eating everything! im thinking she will be a bit yet...last week i was thinking we'd be real soon...now im thinking weeks!!! UGH!!! although she is wiggly and sunken from the flanks to her tail!!! snow just beginning...expecting 6-9 inches...we just got rid of all of it... i was hoping we could be done...and instead of 50 degrees, were looking at 30!!! not exactly good foaling weather.so i guess it is ok that she seems to be waiting!!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 153 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 07:55 pm:        Thanks Jenn, Hope it works this time, but as long as it is healthy... Kris hope you does not make you too crazy waiting for her, but maybe it is good that she is waiting for better weather for her foal.   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 55 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 07:57 pm:        Hey everyone Good Luck. I got my foaling cam up and running today. I think I'll pop some popcorn and watch MTV (mare television) I think their playing Rosie's Blues.   Lori aka " Raven" Weanling Username: Raven Post Number: 46 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:26 pm:        Good luck everyone!! I really kind of miss those sleepless nights and the excitment of watching and waiting. Wish I had another one that was FUN !! Kris not to be mean but you can keep that weather (even though I heard it is coming my way) Good luck with your foal let us know how she is doing.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 283 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:46 pm:        hey id gladly share this weather!!! or just give it away! the temps are falling, winds are cranking up and snow...YUCK!!! yes i agree, hanging onto her foal for better weather is good, also she is only 321 days...i guess ideally id like her to get to 330!   Lori aka " Raven" Weanling Username: Raven Post Number: 49 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:56 pm:        Kris I hope for your sake and the foals that she waits. BBBRRRRR if not. Do you have lots of blankets and towels for he babe, heat lamp even? We finally hit nice weather 54 yesterday and 62 today. So nice I was able to air the barn out. Now rain for the night and tomorrow, temps plumiting to 30 by mid week. Can we all say " LETS MOVE SOUTH"   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 284 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:39 pm:        I agree! id like a nice place that is 60 to 75 year round...is there such a place? I have a lot of towels prepared, a heat lamp on standby, and a baby blanket ready to be worn if needed! yeah we were nice the past 5 days...yeah that was nice, but is now history! (here spring spring spring... come back spring!) hows baby? lovin his legs and freedom still?   Lori aka " Raven" Weanling Username: Raven Post Number: 50 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 05:57 am:        Kris, MOST definatley!!! He is doing very well ! Allows all four feet to be picked up, halter no problems, brushing no probs, loves everyone that looks over at him. If you do not pay attention to him he will put his butt to the wall so you can scratch it. Then if you don't he will keep it there and hit the wall with his hocks (like he is shuffling in one spot) up against the wall.He gets the little sway going too! So funny. He has also learned he can paint the walls with his poop. Good Artist His legs, everyone comments on how tall he is. I throw a Jolly Ball in there and that is the best think since moms milk! He is trying to be a Lippazon with the ball, all four feet in the air at the same time. Hey, when you find that place that stays 60-70 year round... pass it on and don't keep it to yourself Cause I'll be right behind you!! Good luck with your foal watching. We need some ACTION with these mares !!!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 285 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:22 am:        no doubt, have not found a soap as good as yours yet! that is too funny, so you have an artist...maybe you should put paper on the walls and sell his paintings....do you think people would give good money for them? that is good that you take the time to teach all the things he will need later in life(picking up feet!) i trim horse feet on the side(I did go to school) along with home daycare, my horse and a family! I usually trim friends horse, neighbors, my own, and let me tell yo, it really stinks to come across a yearling that has never had its feet handled! and it is really bad when a yearling has been put out to pasture and not been handled, then they realize gosh he needs his feet trimmed and they want you to help catch the wild thing AND trim it!!! yes if i find that place i will share it...you too?   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 51 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:40 am:        Hey if they can sell painting from a gorilla ...why not from Chu kash??? I commend you on being able to trim feet. I have watch some farriers that have a hard time to trim feet on a horse that hads never had it done before. I do not think I would want THAT job. I know my friend has standardbreds and they do that, no handling until 9mth -year. Then they have to deal with a wild thing. Makes no sense to me especially with what they have to do with them. I tried to get them to give me a weanling to train but they would have nothing to do with it. They only place I found closest to heaven would be Arizona love it there!!   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 52 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:41 am:        Kris, p.s. I miss my soap as well   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 288 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:56 am:        i hope somone else will give the play by play like you did! ARIZONA?!?!?!?!?! oh my gosh no!!! 115 degrees...no thanks, dry or not 115 is 115!!!i have a sister in law in phoenix, yeah, needless to say we have not visited her yet. and if we do it will be in mid winter, because that is when theyre weather is best(in my book) you know those that have the theory that "let them be babies, put them out to pasture and leave them be" obviously dont do a whole lot with thier own horse, most send them out to a trainer, I think if more "breeders" had to handle teh unruly child they would rethink their training operation! I am not saying lunge and work a weanling, but handle them and teach manners and respect while they are young! my yearling that i got at 5 days old, she has been handled a ton, and had her feet done and leads and ties, and she tests!!!! she is so big and strong she would be downright dangerous if she had no manners or handling!!! ( she is a bit too friendly though, a bit pesty at times) should be interesting to see her and the new baby inteact in a few months! she is a sweet heart, but VERY playful and a bit crazy at times, much more than my arab babies(sheis a qh), and bigger,she is 10 1/2 months old and is just shy of 14 hands, and weighs around 800 pounds(maybe more). so when can we expect to see chu kash"s paintings on ebay? yeah trimming can be alot of work, but on a horse that has been properly handled and taught it is not too bad.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 292 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 08:29 am:        O.K. i just loaded pics from sat here are comparisons as to how narrow she is getting... 4 days prior [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5721.jpg[/IMG] on sat [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5773.jpg[/IMG] 4 days prior [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5720.jpg[/IMG] on sat [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5769.jpg[/IMG] udder on sat [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5778.jpg[/IMG] all normal? side view i have noticed is not as "smooth", her belly is lumpy on the bottom side. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5774.jpg[/IMG]   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 159 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:08 am:        Kris congratulations she has dropped! Looking good!!!!!!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 295 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:41 am:        ok, so now what...? wait right??? so without a bag and being dropped that isnt good is it? she is not a maiden, she should develope a bag! ugh! she did even her maiden year(although neither preg did her bag get ral big before delivery), maybe since shes seasoned she'll just bag as she delivers...i hope so...i just hope he waits till at least the weekend when the weather is a bit better(40 instead of 30) thanks jan,,,i was thinking i was seeing things! is it normal to be narrow from rear, then wider and so on?   Jenn Breeding Stock Username: Jenn Post Number: 135 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:52 am:        Kris, it looks like your mare is progressing nicely. Hopefully you will have a healthy foal to greet soon. As far as climate goes, (many of you might dissagree but) I feel fortunate in living in a place where irrigation is not needed to grow lawn, hay, and other crops. Our summers are beautiful with daytime temperatures ranging from 15-35 C (60-93ish F). The majority of days are in the mid 20s (70-80 F) and overnight the temps only drop a few degrees which make our evenings fantastic. Our winters can be cold but that is what winter coats are for. I have always found that I can dress for cold, but I cannot get naked enough for extreemly hot. Also, all winter the sun shines which really makes a big difference. I would have to agree with Kris about Arizona. I thought that it was very pretty and scenic....from air conditioned comfort.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 160 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:26 pm:        Kris I think your mare will not foal overnight (but I could be surprised) I have seen mares bag up in a day and others not until an hour after they foaled and some that bagged up a month before then stopped bagging up until a couple of days before they foaled so you just never know!   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 472 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 01:23 pm:        Jenn, you just seem to paint the perfect picture! I do like the heat though so I don't think that Az. would bother me.... Its the cold/wind chills that get to me. Its hard to keep everyone happy outside with temps like we sometimes get. You no more than get the kids dressed and before you make it out the door someone has to go potty! You undress and start all over again, and it takes a whole lot more energy to clean the barn in cold temps. We are able to enjoy the hot summers with a nice swimming pool, so you can almost go "naked" LoL.. This past winter has been real tolerable for us here in Indiana. There was maybe two cold stretches, one in Dec and one in Feb. Dec was the coldest. Jan was upper 40s and even some 50s and 60s. Now we have been in the 60s this past week with a lot of rain. Last night we got about 2-3 inches and now we are swimming in mud! Flash flood warnings for the northern area. But today the sun has finally shown its face and the wind is trying to dry up those huge water puddles(it will take a few good days to do that) and we have wind advisorys for the day. I had trouble pushing a wheel barrel with two square bales on it with the wind, kept flipping the thing over and my four year old son had to hold my hand to be able to walk! Talk about trouble, how in the world do you push a wheelbarrel and hold your sons hand! The horses are trying to catch the hay as it flys by them.My boot gets stuck in the mud the horse thinks there is something wrong with the situation and wants to go back to the barn. Well, I called it quits! Got the animals out of the barn --finally, after they kept coming back, and decided to leave the stalls for hubby this afternoon as I could only imange the story I could tell trying to get the manure out to the pile through the mud,the wind, and new lakes created on our farm. !!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 298 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 01:46 pm:        kim k.- i feel for you! i too cannot get through the pasture, wheel barrow tips over where you dont want it...you think "uh, why bother!" and now we have snow on top of all the mud, so we have brown slushy snow!!!! horse dont want to even go out of the lean to for more than 5 minutes! so i totally understand where you are coming from! Indiana from what i have heard does have nice weather though! we have visited shipshewana a few times...very pretty country!!! my hubby would actually like to move to either indiana or nebraska. im just not sure i could do without family!   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 473 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 02:53 pm:        Kris, We are about 45 minutes west of Shipshewana. We make a trip or two over there during the summer to stock up on a few horse supplies that we can find cheaper at a couple of the tack stores there. Lots of amish folk there. The big sale barn there has gotton a bit out of hand, the traffic is just mad during the summer months as tourisism is growing there--makes it real hard with truck and trailer if your visiting the sale, even without its a pain along the main stretch. They have their big livestock auction too, not just horses on Friday. The Good Friday sale got so big that they went to a catalog and then if you didn't meet the catalog deadline you were left until the catalog horses went through. Amish tend to buy up youngesters as well, work them for a few years and then maybe resell. I havn't been to the auction in years, there use to be a fellow there that knew his bloodlines and could work a good sale for you-- The kids always like going to the tack store too. Always very reasonable prices for decent stuff. Good food/good prices and lots of handmade things. One of the Budwiser teams is normally there on one of the parade days and there are horse drawn carriage rides too. Its fun for the day. Well, if your ever in the area, maybe we can meet up for lunch. I know the family thing, mine is small, but its been hard for my husbands normal job, and we have considered looking elsewhere, but I have my aunt, dad and sister... thats it, so its hard to leave,especially because of my kids and family, if it were just my husband and I we would have been gone already!   Angela Barbour Weanling Username: Angela_b Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 07:01 pm:        Kris your mare is very pretty. She reminds me of my old mare   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 54 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 08:11 pm:        Kris, OMGosh yes!! I would take the dry heat anyday compared to the high hot humitity and heat index's that we have here. YOU know it is hot and humid when at 6am your cleaning stalls and your are soaked through. When it is cooler to keep the horses in their stalls in the barn then outside.The big answer to Arizona is what part the northern part is nice and cooler then the southern. And the nice thing about it is you can get from one part to the other in 4-6 hrs. Done it, drove all over Az in 2003 on a 11 day trip. Went from desert and heat to snow and cooler all in a matter of hours. It was quit halarious to be in 60 weather and they are all bundled up with winter coats and gloves and I'm walking around in t-shirt and shorts.You want to talk about getting strange looks, they were getting right back !! They have never seen cold like we have or you have. I would have to agree with Jan on your mare, but I am a novice to this (so I guess I am learning from this board). I solved the problem of the wheel barrel tipping over as you are going through the mud and snow. I have a two wheel barrel. Greatest thing on earth for horse people. You can pick it up and drive it all with one hand and not have to worry about it falling over. It would be great for you Kim K, that way you can still hond onto your sons hand and steer the wheel barrel. They are less likely to tip. Have not had one do it yet!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 299 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:09 pm:        Raven-i have seen conversion kits for wheel barrows, have thought about getting one! maybe now i will! Angela- Thank you, although she is much prettier not pregnant and shedded out!") Jan- oh i dont think she will foal tonight, or even this week, but i guess time will tell, in the mean time i just check her often! normally she is a brush hog, wants all the attention and loves to be brushed, not now, today she snorted and showed teeth! i did get on her for that!! she is soooo CRABBY!!!   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 59 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:28 pm:        Kris you will not be sorry Much much nicer to deal with especially in the snow and mud. Don't forget the camera when she has the foal we need some more play by play pictures! any luck and she will wait till this weather passes.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 303 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:34 pm:        i have the camera ready! now we just need action! my mare hates the flash on my camera though, so we will have to see if she will tolerate it through delivery! that is assuming I am THERE for it!!! I just have a feeling she is gonna pull a fast one on me!   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 60 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:46 pm:        What was it all you gals were telling me " DON"T TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF HER FOR A MINUTE!!!"   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 162 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 06:55 am:        No foal here either, bag has shrunk down some but vulva is much more relaxed as well as the tail/croup area is very relaxed. So we still wait. Oh well its just part of the process! Full moon is tonight I thought, am I wrong or was it last night...hmm I am losing more then sleep these days!   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 57 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 08:34 am:        Full moon is tonight Jan I was always told it is the pull of the full moon which is 1 to 3 days before and after. Good luck if this is the mare you want the medicine hat paint from I'm sending you vibes to get one, Rosie had one 3 years ago and we didn't even no what we had. He was blk/ white but he didn't have blue eyes he had every other marking though. So good luck it should be any time now. Windy   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 229 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:11 am:        Hey gals, it seems like forever since I've dropped in, just wanted to let you know we STILL don't have any new babies.. <sigh> I thought for sure I'd have some photos to share this morning, but instead, I have a barn full of fat, miserable, cranky mares.. I keep telling them, the longer they hold out, the harder that it's going to be..lol. Jan- did you ever get any babies? Kris- how's your mare doing ??   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 311 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:08 pm:        E Watkins- posted a note for you on other thread, but check out my mares most recent pics on this one. she sure looks ready, but the little bagging i thought she was doind has since gone away, were back to pretty much nothing! we'll just wait! im thinking she may just go 340+ and is gonna be nice and soft to let the giant monster out!!!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 234 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:31 pm:        Kris- I think you are right, she just doesn't seem like she's in a big hurry yet, the foal is nice and low but it still looks like it's not back very far yet. Our mares look like the foal is at the back door ready to come out any minute..lol. Daisy even is so flat across the hip that I swear there's a lump that could be a front hoof waiting to make it's appearance.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 315 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:41 pm:        we'll just wait! i at least have her seperated now, so IF she does a sneak attack there is no other horse to harass her, she is kind of the bottom of the totem pole. ill let you know. OH..what is "NORMAL" respirations for a late term brood? she seems to breathing quite fast this afternoon(one nice thing is i can count resp from my room because it is so cold i can see her exhales) she is 30 to 38 per minute right now, and thats just standing there, not eating or anything, just chillin! normal? (i am not sure what her normal is, i am beginning to check that and her temp today)   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 268 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:57 pm:        LOL a kris you sound like a worried mom.My hubby feels neglected cause my horses get so much attention.Heres a little poem my hubby says fits. My Wife and her Horse My wife she has a quarter horse, with flaxen mane and tail. She thinks he is the finest thing that ever jogged a rail. She calls him Dandy Darling, and if the truth I tell, that fancy pampered quarter horse has made my life pure hell. My wife she used to cook for ME and serve it with champagne. Now she'd rather feed that horse and fix his special grain. She rides him every morning, and grooms him half the night. The last time that she kissed ME it was just to be polite. He dresses better than I do, with matching wraps and ties, my wardrobe's so neglected now that I attract the flies. One day my wife was shopping, she was down at the mall, and fancy pampered DANDY was just standing in his stall. He looked so smug and sassy, that I began to grin, I'd saddle that fat sucker, and take him for a spin. I've wondered since if cues I gave, he might have misconstrued, for when I climbed aboard that horse, he rightly came UNGLUED. He bucked and spun, and snorted fire, and threw me through a fence. I saw big stars and there are teeth that I ain't heard from since. My wife came home and saw me, just a lying in the dirt, she rushed up to her HORSE and asked him, "Sweetheart are you HURT?" He'd scratched his nose a little bit, and the memory galls me yet, she left me lying in the mud, and ran to call the VET!!! so sad but true lol.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 318 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 02:20 pm:        deena- that was awesome!my hubby feels the same way!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 239 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 02:25 pm:        Kris- did you find out what normal respirations are? gosh, it's chilly here too, figures, we'll probably have foals tonight when it's dang cold..all the warm nights that have gone by and they'll pick the cold ones to foal on!! grrr. Deena- that is too funny, I had to share it with some friends..   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 269 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 02:33 pm:        kris normal respiratory rates are 12-24 breathes per min.normal heart rate is 24 to 36 beats per minute.normal tem is 99.5 to 100.5 for an adult. for a foal normal temp is 100.5-101.5 heart rate 40-60 beats per min resparation 32 to 54 breathes per min.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 143 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 03:19 pm:        Deena - I love the poem. My husband feels the same way. In fact, I have been worrying about finding hay to foal out on. There is a complete shortage here. I have a connection that saved me some for feeding, but the prices are at peak. Well, the hay man knew I was worried and called me the other day to say I was welcome to rake up the loose hay from his hay barn. This is great since his barn is huge and has about 10" on the ground. But the real point is that my husbad looked this man in the eye and thanked him because he said I was so worried about her bedding that I had taken our mattress out to the barn and we were sleeping on box springs! Men...   Megan Diehl Neonate Username: Megand Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 08:39 am:        I am glad to announce that our soap opera had ended! We had a beautiful colt at 3 this morning! Mom and baby are both doing well! I will post pics tomarrow!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 249 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 09:08 am:        Yeah Megan!!! Good for you, I guess the full moon worked for SOMEBODY. <sigh> still NO new babies in our barn. I'm ready to take the mares out and give them a hard work out to see if I can get something going !   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 321 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 10:17 am:        cant wait ot see pics Megan!!! no baby here either Ev! but i am anticipating it being a bit yet, although a bit a scare last night, was showing some "irritation" signs or foaling signs-minus MILK!!!! but nothing, however her belly is even lower and more pointy today! points towards her hocks...wierd... im guessing baby is just practicing! anything new in your mares? hows sages big guy doing?   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 253 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 10:27 am:        Kris- He's doing well, I think I may call him Cisco, but that will just be his barn name, for his registered name I'll use Stripe Olena something or other..lol   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 323 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 10:52 am:        cisco, thats cute! is he growing like a bad weed? yeah im so board waiting i have a whole list of possible names already, just no foal to give it too! cant settle on a final name till i seethe lil one, has to have a name to suit it! (im trying real hard to not say "him", as much as I really want to!) well hopefully one of the girls foals soon for ya!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 254 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 11:02 am:        thanks, I kind of like it, and I think it suits him. He's really pretty friendly, and full of energy, I wish I could get him out to run more, but we have some really sick horses in the barn and I'm afraid to let him spend much time in the arena for fear he'll get sick too. He has really put on weight since he was born, I'll get some updated photos this week to post.   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 73 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 08:26 pm:        Congrats Megan!! Excited to see pics of a baby draft, never seen that before!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 08:31 pm:        Well I am still waiting on Jade she is 345 days now. here are pictures from this evening. She had not V'd yet but everything else is there. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/b3118391.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/b7e30f73.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/bfc9f5c3.jpg   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 152 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 09:19 pm:        Since my are is doing absolutely nothing new, I have now had to amuse myself with my friend's mare. She thought this mare would foal for the last two nights, but she is also a novice. Can everyone have a look and provide feedback? Her tail head is showing, udders are partially filled, jelly like in the rear end, no wax or milk drops, vulva elongated and partially separated at the bottom. Eating like a horse! Anyone want to take a guess at how much longer for her? http://photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/Kaylas%20Dream/?action=view&current= KaylasDreamudders.jpg   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 153 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 09:24 pm:        Jan - what a difference a few days makes. I can't wait to see what she produces. I soooo hope my girl finishes cooking hers before 345 days! I tried to do a side by side comparison of her from 300 days to 318 and she looks exactly the same - better udders, but no body change.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 171 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 09:41 pm:        Kathee your friends mare looks like she could go tomorrow or not for two more weeks she is in that half way stage which depends on each individual mares own specific time table. Its all up to the mare and foal how long she will take to foal it's an inexact science to be sure. as far as your own mare is concerned, I hope she does not go that long either, but i hope she cooks it long enough for a healthy foal. My mares never change too much during 300 to 320 days give or take a week. but when they do start to change it seems to happen very quickly. Good luck and I will let you and everyone know what she has. Happy foaling!   Amber Tedford Weanling Username: Amber Post Number: 48 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 11:42 pm:        I agree with Jan. My girl didn't change for weeks, and then BOOM she had sunken/softened even more and started dripping milk! She foaled 1-2 days later. Let us know about both of you guys! Jan, your girl looks close! Do you expect her to wax any? I'm very excited for you-you definately deserve a rest from your watch! Let us know!! (Message edited by amber on March 15, 2006)   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 172 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 07:32 am:        Thanks Amber, she waxed yesterday in the morning but I do not see any this morning. She did not eat her morning feed so I am hopeful that the wait will soon be over I do not expect her to last through the weekend. I will keep you all updated. She is restless today and stands away from the other horse in the corner of the paddock, so I hope it is soon.   Amber Tedford Weanling Username: Amber Post Number: 50 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 08:29 am:        I'll be thinking of you today. It was so wierd w/ my mare yesterday-I went into her stall and she came right up to me and loved on me. I checked her bag and saw what I thought was wax, went into the clinic and got one of the girls; we came back out and Baby Doll started bearing down while she was standing up! At first it looked like she was rubbing her tail, but she curled her body into almost a C shape. She layed down soon after and had it (well, with help). Please keep us updated. I hope all goes well for both of you guys.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 173 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 09:16 am:        Amber I just love your little filly she is gorgeous!!!!!!!!! I am so glad everything went well and the delivery was easy on your mare and her foal, you did the right thing having her foal out at the vet office! She is so beutiful, enjoy her and give her a hug from me!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 333 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 12:14 pm:        Jan- I have got to ask...still say colt? looks to be a bit of udder developement starting...yaaaaaaa! these are fresh off the camera from this am! side view [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5790.jpg[/IMG] udder [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5794.jpg[/IMG] she is losing her hind end muscles now, her hips are straight up and down, not rounded any more, she is beginning to look pretty pathetic! has lumps on both sides up toward her front legs(you can see it in the pic), seems like itis her ribs. normal?   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 269 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 12:32 pm:        Kris- I'm thinking elephant! Avery is big, but that mare is enormous! Ave has a pretty big butt, but her belly sticks out on either side from behind, her chest is pretty wide too, but it looks tiny now compared to her midsection. I don't expect a huge foal as it's her first, but it looks like it will be a decent size. Were you able to locate some collostrum just in case? Jan- any luck with the mare that was waxing?   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 335 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 01:24 pm:        no i have not, i am actually doing that today while all my daycare kiddies are sleepin, i have a few resources to use, so well seeif it works...is there sucha thing as powdered? or only frozen...also i was told bovide (cow)colostrum is acceptable...i find that far fetched... so elephant huh?!?!?!? LOL that was my thought too! what do you think, she keeps getting lower and lower, im thinking shes gonna drag her belly by time she gives birth!!! you know she is a full 15 hand and weighs 1000 when not bred, so she is not a "little arab" who shows a belly, im thinking HUGE or multiple (pray its not multiples!!!) so you really think i should have colostrum on hand...is that a hint that she is looking more ready than her udder is letting on to? i am real nervous...yes i know its obvious!!!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 271 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 02:51 pm:        Kris- I know I keep asking this (sorry) how many days along is she? I don't know about powdered but I have heard of frozen, also I don't know if the bovine will work for horses or not, you'll have to ask Jos that one, or someone with more knowledge than I have. I bet I can find out though, there's a lady I know who has raised a lot of orphan foals with success, she'll know what works and probably how to get it too. Honestly, your mare looks pretty far along to not have any more udder than what is in those photos. ( I'm a worrier though ) I'd spend the $$ and have the colostrum ready just in case. Loosing a foal that way isn't fun, we had it happen a couple of years ago..it was terribly sad.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 155 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 03:32 pm:        Not exactly the new family I has hoping for, but since nothing else is happening with my mare, I guess it will have to do! The one has been around for about a month. Today she introduced me to her children. I know I am an animal lover, but don't you think they should at least pretend to be afraid of me? http://photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/Video/?action=view&current=TheNewFam ily.jpg   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 491 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 03:36 pm:        Ditto ! Ok, now that I said it Evie., I too believe that she should have more of a udder developed at this stage in the game, but I have to say I don't know the mare, or her past. Every, and I mean every mare that we have ever foal out, has developed a decent udder prior to foaling-some develope more wax or drip more milk than others, but always have a decent one. I did see at the other post though a pic of a mares udder that looked under developed as well , as it seems that she is doing fine. ?? HOw far is she Kim   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 492 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 03:39 pm:        Yikes! Wheres those barn cats when you need them! Well, congrats anyways Kathee on your new family.   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 274 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 03:58 pm:        Kathee- you ARE short on things to do if you are taking photos of mice..lol. I think the mare stare has finally done you in! (and that IS quite a family, you need a cat!) Kim K- way to go! you used my word! Kris said she's at least 340 days.. if she were my mare I get her started on the domperidone.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 338 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 05:15 pm:        she is 324 from LAST breeding date and 340 something from FIRST breeding date. I am working on hte colostrum thing! domperidone is for the fescue issue...correct? ugh! I just dont know what to do! I talked to my mom about her first foal, we figure from hte time we saw her bred one time to foaling was 342 days, so wellsee, but even if she goes 340 and she is324 now she should be doing something...correct?   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 05:38 pm:        Kathee- love the new family!! What are their names. They will ne easy to imprint on don't you think!!! I always understood that you go by the last breeding date. Back when I was certain that my other mare was pregnant even after I bred her in two different months they always said to go by the last breeding date. So then your mare would only be 324 days. I do not know if this is true but tha is what I was always told. the others can correct me if I am wrong??   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 113 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 06:04 pm:        Well back from the equine repro class, AMAZING! Anyhow Kathee I love mice. I think they are so cute. And I wish I had some to take pictures of while I am on mare stare lol. But my cat keeps them rare. Well Dallas is 300 days today . Fatter than ever, eating slower than ever, and waddling more every day. Awww the perils of pregnancy. Anyhow I noticed today she has starting filling out in her utter. It was just kind of saggy and loose, but now it is feeling like it is filling out more and kind of has a little bit of fluid in it. After that class I am going to try the milk test with hard water testers and then over to the Foal watch test in the latter part. I want to see how it works for me. Oh I wanted to ask, have any of you had a problem with your mare having a loose stool at about 300 days? It has lasted about 2 days now, but I was thinking it might be because we wormed her a few days ago. Any input?   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 177 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 06:16 pm:        Updaten our mare Digger, we have some sad news, the vet was called out today because our mare Digger was down and passing alot of fluid and some putrid green mucus, the vet arrived after she aborted a fetus that was mummified, it looked to be the size of a small dog, she continued to have contractions which we thought was the placenta but it was another foal but this one looked regular sized but very very thin, skin and bones, the first one was a colt, this second one was the filly of our dreams it looked just like Digger! We are very saddened by this loss. I just thought you would like to know. Jade has waxed and looks ready to foal at any time. Thanks for your support. Digger is on antibiotics and was infused and lavaged. We had her ultrasounded three times and these twins were never seen. I am mad and sad at the same time. Will let you know about Jade. take care.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 117 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 06:31 pm:        Jan, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I was worried my mare was with twins, since the people we bought her from never did an ultrasound, and she is so BIG. I feel so bad for you. Hang in there, and hopefully your next mare will have a beautiful stong healthy foal. keep us posted about how your mare is doing.   Angela Barbour Weanling Username: Angela_b Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 08:25 pm:        I am so sorry to hear that...   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 58 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 08:46 pm:        Jan words can not express the sorrow I'm sure we all feel for you just know your "sisters" are here and we share your pain. Big Hug to you and Digger. Windy   Elena Vieira Weanling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 11:48 pm:        I am sorry Jan... Elena   Amber Tedford Yearling Username: Amber Post Number: 52 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:43 am:        Jan- I am sooooo sorry! I'll be thinking about you tonight. You have been through so much w/ your girls. I'm betting Jade's is going to be extra special. ((((hugs))))   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 341 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 06:13 am:        Raven- I usually go by the last breeding date, but E Watkins uses the first breeding date, thats why i posted those numbers...(e watkns had her large dun foal at 320 days using first foaling date, she said that is what she prefers to do because she has missed too many going by last breeding date) So she is 325 days today, and little to none on the udder part, i have two other vets going to call me today to talk to, i will get their opinions on where she should be udderwise and if they think they (one or the other) would like to see her, or start her on domperidone or whatever. last night she was biting her sides again...ugh, she cant have this foal with no milk!!!! I am especially worried about twins now too, i had her ultrasounded, but after what has happened to jan ( i am so sorry jan!!!) i am concerned because of her size!!! ill let you know what the vet(s)say.   Lori aka " Raven" Yearling Username: Raven Post Number: 82 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 06:46 am:        Kris I guess you would have to go by what Ev says she is more knowledgeable than I in breeding. Good luck   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 346 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 06:53 am:        every one uses last day, that is the standard, so when people refer to # of days it would be from last date...with the exception of Ev, however she has lights on her horses (well lights on IN barn not necessarily "ON" the horses) so that may affect her breeding dates and could be why she misses foals using last breeding date. my mare is under no lights (beginning today she will be, im putting in a heat lamp...just in case... for these cold days and nights were having 30 degrees daytime, 5 at night (F).)   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 179 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 07:41 am:        Thanks everyone, I think it finally got to me last night, I just cried and cried, I think it was just plain shock before. Now that I am a bit calmer, I just cannot believe this could happen how in the world can a twin be missed after 2 ultrasounds?(explanation is below on why 2 and not 3 US). As for the Infected fescue causing the abortion at full term umm I just do not know, the last time I felt movement was not often on Digger, but I did feel it about a month ago, and the vet feels like the fetus (filly) died about maybe 1 to 2 weeks ago due to placental insufficiency, the other twin (colt) he felt may have died at month 6 or 7. I decided not to have a necropsy/autopsy performed because it is pretty evident the reason they died. I do have to apologise I made a mistake, Digger was not bred by my vet (the one with 37 years experience) Jade was but not Digger. Digger was sent to the breeding farm in Texas, she was supposedly Ultrasound at 16 and 21 days only, but I did have her palpated by my regular Vet at 9 months due to her size which seemed small to me, but she is a very big mare and carried wide but not low. I am wondering now if she was even ultrasounded by the farm at all. I feel sad for Digger, Disappointed at having lost this pregnancy, and to tell you the truth I am questioning if I should continue to breed anymore. I am heart broken. I need Jade to foal and pull me out of this well of dispair. Thanks everyone for your support and kind wishes.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 156 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 07:58 am:        Jan - I can't even imagine...My prayers are with you.   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 493 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 09:38 am:        Sorry Jan for your lose. Kris, Raven, we too go by the last breeding date. I was always told to go 11 months 10 days. and then when i saw last year everyone posting days I had to figure it out!LOL... that would figure out to be 340 days. A few of our mares go 11 months 18 days=348 days. We normally start the lights on in the barn the first to middle of december to start breeding by the end of Jan on..The horses get about 12-13 hours in the barn with lights and then what ever daylight they get. for us the addition of lights in the barn don't seem to affect the length of gestation. My husband has gone to the extent of figuring out the lumins/square foot in the barn, making sure that there is addiquate lighting for the mares to cycle. He has lights every so many feet in the barn making sure each has the light required. Kim   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 278 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:03 am:        Kim- if I remember correctly, (and my mind does get things mixed up) in order for the lights to make a difference, they need to be on about 16 hours a day. Ours are on from about 7 in the morning to 9 or 10 at night..maybe that's why our mares seem to have shorter gestations? (although this year, I can't say that as we have several that are approaching 330+ days. Last year we had probably half of them have at 330 days or less, I think only one of the 7 went 340 and she was a 13 year old mare which may have made the difference. With regards to maiden mares, do they typically come earlier? or are they often later gestationally? (again, I cannot remember what I've read)   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 495 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:50 am:        E Watkins, the lights for us in the barn are on that amount of time, that does not take into affect of the natural lighting that the mares get during the day. This lighting is what we turn on in the late afternoon when they come in and stays on until the next morning when they go out, then they get all the daylight from the natural light durning the day-which starts to drastically increase come Jan. ???-- this has worked well for us. We normally can start breeding the middle/end of jan for a mare that is not in foal(some could have been sooner -gotta make sure that baby is born no sooner than Jan. 1st !!) For us it seems like those maiden mares like to bake those babies a bit longer! I don't know, it just may be our minds playing tricks as we worry about them. But on a serious note, keeping track of many mares , most the time if seems as if they are close to the same pattern that they then follow in the coming years, for the most part. I wonder if the part of the country you are in , how that affects your gestation. ?? Food for thought ! Gravity and the equatior ? What about food intake and quality and quanity ? Work load too ? Your horses have a good work load if I remember . Kassie, normally the change is stoll from my experince is just a change in how baby is positioned., when they move they can put pressure on the different orgins and cause a change in the stools., keep a eye on it, it will probabally change again. Kim   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 283 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 11:02 am:        Kim- the mares do work a lot, (some of them, my personal horses have it pretty easy..lol) so they are in very good physical condition, they do get well fed, maybe that's the difference? last year I had them all on Mare Care Plus as well, this year, only my two are on it.. Sage did foal at 320 days with a nice healthy sized colt but Avery (who is a maiden and does not work much at all ) is now 329 days. For the record, Sage foaled at 330?? last year.. or there abouts, which is still earlier than the average 343 days. I bet the maidens we have due this year will come between 330-340 days which is about right on schedule. All of them being so early last year (and we even had one at 311 days, and I was certain of that because the mare was only covered one time) just has be being anxious for them to do the same this year. I'm just not patient I suppose.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 347 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 11:21 am:        Ev- I think i have progress! i checked onher this am and her udder id firming up, not just hanging skin, sheis firming behind the bag (behind hind legs) and in front of the udder. not a lot but enough that i could tell by looking and more so by feeling!!!!yeah!!!! I am still waiting for a call from those vets though!   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 498 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 11:29 am:        Wow, 311 days, that would be a record for us. I do have to say that we breed for the early babies, which I believe that Jos has posted too that the mare that is bred early for a early baby seems to carry longer. We normally are done by March for foaling, sometimes with a late baby , but agian , with having several of the same mares for many years, it stills seems to be close to the 11 months 10 days ! Most of our mares are not worked enough! Their biggest work load is eating and pooping, running to the barn at feeding time and baking that baby. With a once in the while ride for the kids. They get fed plenty and a good mix grass quality hay and grain 2x day. Itsn't weird how things are differnt for everyone. I know that everything we look at are not done in a controlled scienctic way, so results are not perfect.   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:10 pm:        Kris- that's good news! I am hoping for the best for you..I'll keep my fingers x'd. Hubby says he thinks the mares will go another week, I sure hope not, I don't want the added stress of being away at the hospital and worrying that they are laying home with a foal stuck 1/2 delivered! I'm going to have an ulcer before this next week is over and done with. ( I hope those mares are happy ) Kim- I was really doubting that the foal would be healthy, but she's fine. ( she's small, but then so is her momma ) When my hubby told me that afternoon that the mare was waxing, I said, "it's too soon!", before I coud get her stall stripped, she was dripping milk and her water broke! I was rushing to get clean straw down for her to lay on and I accomplished it in the nick of time. Good thing I didn't put her in cross ties while I cleaned but rather worked around her, or we'd have had a foal in the hallway that night! It sounds like your mares have it good! our poor horses really WORK for a living..though most of them don't mind it too much. I like to sell them after a year or two of use though, not many of them will just work in classes for years on end without getting a negative attitude. (though Peppy the wonder horse has been at it 12 years now, her only vice is she'll kick a horse that crowds her too much..otherwise, she's a gem )   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 499 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:41 pm:        boy, sure hope everything goes ok for you Kris...Will be thinking of you. and you to Ev, with your husband. Ev(E Watkins)--how do you want to be addresses ? Dont' know how alot of people want to be addressed. where did you say that you live ? Ya, most of our horses have it made, especially once they have been shown and move into the "brood mare" (although the kids show them too in mare and foal classes), I imange they will see the most work this coming year that they have seen in a long time. The kids are getting old enough to really begin to ride and take interest in showing and such. I will be in seventh heaven as I can start spending more time in the barn than changing baby diapers! Kids are 9.5, 6.5 and 4 years old. We had considered selling out about 9.5 years ago, with work schedules, farm and new baby, it was reaching its limits! But hung on to hopefully have the kids interest and keep them at home on the farm. Girls and horses and then the boys will be here instead of the girls out and then the youngest is a boy so all his friends will want to be here because of the girls.. Boy I hope our plan works. We have alot to work on this year, with a couple of two year olds and a couple of yearlings, the mares might set open one more summer. After loosing our stallion the fall of 04, we have done some reorganizing and the last foals (were fillys ! thank goodness out of him-so we kept them)and now we have rebuilt our breeding program.Have a beautiful chestnut overo colt-that is out of coosa breeding, Scenic jetelito/jetelito breeding. (Very excited!)l have 4 out of our past stallion and three other mares. So hopefully the spring of 07 we might have a couple of babies and then the spring of 08 could have up to 5 babies and then the spring o09 could be up to 7 babies, depending on how things go.Whoa! getting to far ahead of myself. \ Oh, how they accumulate ! Its a addiction! Kim   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 286 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 01:53 pm:        Kim- you can call me Ev (short for Evie which is my nickname) We live in northeastern Kansas. ( U.S.) Charles and I had upwards of 30 head of our own till a couple of weeks ago and then we sold off 7 to get the numbers down while he was off with this surgery. I work 30 hours a week, have a teen at home (crazy sports schedules with that one all year long) and then we have the horses too. (did I mention there are about 20 boarded horses that need fed every day too?? I let go of some of my youngsters last week to lighten the load, I have a 4 y/o a 3 y/o, a 2 y/o and three yearlings of my own..I like to do my own training so believe me, my plate is overflowing. I hope your kiddos enjoy the horses, I have two boys and when they were younger, they road and raced ( barrel racing ) now, they just see the horses as work and don't have much appreciation for them at all. We lean towards the working cow/cutting bloodlines and try to breed for smaller sized horses as those work well for children and ladies which make up the bulk of our students. Our new stud is a grandson of Peptoboonsmal out of a Col Freckles/Doc Olena bred mare. He's a beautiful golden palomino but also has the roan gene evident in his coat. ( his sire was a red roan and the dam was a buckskin ) This will be our first year of breeding with him, I'm anxious to see what color babies he'll produce. I have a bay roan filly that I may breed to him, that could turn out a buckskin/roan.. that would be way cool. Our old stallion was an awesome gray Doc Bar/Peppy San bred horse, he was 14'2 and probably weighed close to 1200lbs..what a powerhouse, he threw about 90% gray babies too. We probably should have kept that horse. The first fillies out of him will be having foals this spring and then we'll cross them back on this new stallion (and their foals as well in a few years if we are lucky enough to get some fillies ). You would be correct, it's an addiction of sorts, we had to quit going to the auctions, it was too tempting to keep adding to the numbers! it's just hard to pass on a horse that you know has potential, that just needs some training and some groceries to be a useful and good horse.   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 289 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 02:43 pm:        Kim, Kris and Jan- I'm out of here till Monday, maybe with luck we can swap some photos when I get back! Have a great weekend, and good luck to you all! Evie   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 500 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 02:57 pm:        you sound about like us here. We are only houseing 10 right now. That is plenty of work , between trying to keep stalls done, a bit of riding , making our own hay in the summer and holding down jobs outside the farm. I altough have only worked pt for the past nine years, my husband is a commerical printer so he normally stays real busy with that too! Someones gotta foot the bills ! The kids are starting to get involved in the farm. The enjoy the animals. Before we got married and started our own family, we hit a high of 25 most were mares that were either ours or being leased for productions. I know the feeling when you say we should have kept that horse! You always sell the good ones. The fellow that we lost was mark iv, sonny dee bar bred, matured much larger than we thought he would. Was a red dun overo and matured at 16.1-- a bit tall but built nicely. This fellow I am hoping matures out no more than 15.2, and we should still get tall babies out of him. Would love to see some of your horses.There are some of our babys and stallion from the past , the pic of the black and white is the sire of our new colt. Enjoy! http://photobucket.com/albums/y108/kijopainthorse/ password is horse Kim   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 190 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 08:55 am:        Hello guys - Well I finally got the photos working - Dont ask me how, after nearly another 4 hours if trying, I wasnt going to argue the point when they finally appeared on the screen and I had done nothing different!! Jan, I would appreciate if you took a look and gave me one of your predictions - Thay have been so accurate so far. Also, I really hope you are feeling better today, and that jade will give you a bundle soon to keep your mind busy with that baby. Kim k - I know people with many horses but that has to be a record. The people I know have under 10 and dont work on top of that - Either that or the are a riding school/livery yard, so that is their job. Im impressed, You do a fantastic job keeping it all together! Now - here are my piccies - I didnt realise they were getting so old Exactly a month ago now, this is 257 days along, now we are at about 28? and still growing!! Im sure it lays in her flanks nowadays. Excuse the backround in one of these - Its still a bit of a building site at the moment!! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/257%20days/right.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/257%20days/left.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/257%20days/resting.jpg Not her best angle!... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/257%20days/frontview.jpg   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 191 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 01:24 pm:        Im sorry - Im so impressed with myself for managing to get those pictures on, I went out today and took some up to date ones. This is the belly at 285 days (today): http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/285%20days/belly18mar2.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/285%20days/belly18mar.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/285%20days/hippo.jpg And this is the ummmm, udder, today: (There isnt one at all really, but at least Ill be able to compare before and after at a later date) http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/285%20days/NoUdder.jpg I know youve probably seen enough of her, but I havent been able to get any pictures on for such a long time........   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 504 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 02:02 pm:        Kim, glad to see pics ! I know sometimes its not easy figuring out the computer stuff! As for me , well, sometimes, it seems like its falling apart. Like last summer. The chain on the hay bine broke, the chain on the bailer broke, and we were roofing the house and just doing normal kids stuff. rrrr... then I had emergency appendix surgery and was in the hospital for a week. The hay equiptment isn't that old, just time for repair work. Oh, we manage, sometimes feeling like throwing in the towel, but we keep going. The kids are getting older to make things a bit easier, if they want to participate in it they have to help too. The 25 head was easy ten years ago. Just adding the three human kids made ten even hard! Glad to see your pics. I have to get some new ones up myself. Kim   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 160 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 04:30 pm:        Kim W - is she really 285 days or is that a typo?   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 183 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 06:00 pm:        Hi Kim, Your mare looks to be carrying a colt, should be a very nice looking foal, that is a pretty mare you have, thanks to everyone for the well wishes and your kind words, I plan to continue to breed, but from now on I will only do AI here at my barn with my own Equine reproductive Vet, no more sending my mare to a stud farm and take a chance of them missing a twin. I never want to go through that heart ache ever again. Jade is doing ok still waiting on her. she is not in a hurry and it might be the Fescue that it making her go long on gestation. Here are a couple of pictures of her udder today, she has all the signs for foaling but the important one...a nose at both ends! http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/ce3afd10.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/0ae696a8.jpg   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 351 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 09:10 pm:        Ev, Jan and others, my mare is making pogress! I am so excited! in two days she has changed a ton! 324 days [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5794.jpg[/IMG] today 326 days [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5988.jpg[/IMG] were on the right track!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 352 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 09:22 pm:        Ev-WARNING LONG POST! I fogot to update, so I have talked to 3 different vets now, all 3 say no need to see her if I am seeing foal movement(and yes its defineatley there! it "kicks" her udder area, pretty funny, the movement is low and back now instead if between udder and flanks), and one said naa, dont worry about it i have never had to treat a mare who did not make milk while foaling ( i figure i will probably not vall him again! he also said she is too old to be breeding...umm NO she is only 17) the other said well yah she should have an udder at least starting, si she on fuscue? then he said in the 4 yrs in MN he has never seen case, and no vets even carry domperidone around here they have to order it, but he said he saw it constantly in MO. he said let her go over the weekend, if she has not started to show significant progress to call and he would order domperridone and then to find colostrum, and the third is my regular vet who said she will begin this week (last week) and if not call, he said he thinks she will go into april before foaling...we'll see... so...is her progress considered "significant" enough to let her go...or should i still find domperidone and colostrum??? ill post more pics monday and we'll see then, i really cant order anything over the weekend anyway...so...   Robin Culbertson Nursing Foal Username: Murrini Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:31 pm:        Kris, I was doing the same at about 320-330 days. My vet said the same thing, call in a week if she still has no bag. I started to see a tiny bit of change by then so didn't call. We are now at 364 days with a HUGE bag & full teats. I did take my mare completly off of grass hay when I talked to the vet that day, she has just been getting alfalfa as a precaution but he didn't think it was Fescue toxicity. My other vet had already said he thought she would go long because she didn't look big enough at 10 months. Hopefully she is just baking longer like mine (not that I envy you the wait, it has been agonizing!) Here are some pics of her udder development, if you go to page 2 the first is at 327 days (no bag at all), to 3 days ago. http://photobucket.com/albums/e184/murrini/Serina/?start=0 I'm hoping she will go tonight, her milk turned from barly cloudy white at 6pm to fairly cloudy white (but still a little see through) at 7pm, so... Fingers are crossed!   Heather Kutyba Breeding Stock Username: Heatherck11 Post Number: 116 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:40 pm:        Kris Heya, boy do you sound like me!! Don't know if it will make you feel any better, but when my mare was if foal, I consistantly saw the baby kicking near her udder (and in between her front legs...swear). That colt got to bangin around in there ALL the time. I'd put my hand down there, lean against her, and enjoy his romping (how neat is it??!!!). Oh please me on the "too old to be breeding"....I know of more than a handful of mares over 20 who have foals every year. While it is always a good idea to know where/how to get colostrum if you need it, your mare will most likely build that bag when her body tells her to do so. I have a mare that bagged WHILE she foaled...and not a minute sooner. No IGG problems, Domperidone is good stuff, and it ought to be as much as it costs. I do know of a pharmacy you can get it from in a peppermint paste form (in a de-wormer like syringe). It's likely your mare still has several weeks to go, but I'm not sure YOU can make it. We all need to have a wine drinking night on-line for our nerves   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 353 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 11:07 pm:        ROBIN AND HEATHER-i am sure I wont have a foal for a minimum of 5 days! she is just about what she was with her 2nd foal about 5 days prior...so we will see could be another 50 days! (man i hope not!) She is very irritated tonight though! she is biting the gate, walking circles, tail constantly raised, and she will turn look at her belly and then squirrel flick her tail (straight up and down swishing), walk another circle, stand take a couple bites of hay and repeat! the past couple days she has been VERY quiet and very hungry! i just came in from checking her, bag gets firmer and bigger every am and again every pm for past two days! im so excited! im thinking she will defineately build one...in time...   Heather Kutyba Breeding Stock Username: Heatherck11 Post Number: 117 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 11:23 pm:        Kris, Bless that poor 'ol mares heart! She sounds miserable. Well, if nothing else we can all say with all certainty, that foaling is NOT an exact science! Hay, I got it....plan a nice night out...good clothes (shower too), lots of friends, all the extras. Then, go into the barn and tell that mare all about this while you're cleaning stalls and ranting at her about how she'll not have that foal for another 2 weeks+. Figure if you cut the night short and come home you'll find a wet foal in the stall   Danielle Roosen-Runge Weanling Username: Rolling_hills_quarter_horses Post Number: 47 Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:33 am:        OK I finally got batteries and took a few pics of the mare I think is closer tonight she is 342 days as of today... tell me what you think. Also a picture of what I expressed... Jan --- Can you give me your prediction. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/islandhorses/Maggie3-18-2006005.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/islandhorses/Maggie3-18-2006001.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/islandhorses/Maggie3-18-2006002.jpg (Message edited by rolling_hills_quarter_horses on March 19, 2006)   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 192 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 05:36 am:        Hi kathee - Yes she is 285 days (well 286 now ) Why did you think it was a typo?? Jan - I reallt wanted you to say filly... Ive had a feeling most of the way through it was a boy, but I was still hoping that Id get a lovely little filly ata the end. Doesnt matter though - because Ive been getting used to the idea that it is a boy and I always tend to say 'he' and then correct myself.And, Thankyou, I think she is quite pretty too ; ) Glad to hear your continuing - sounds like the best idea, stick to doing how you know it works best. GOod Luck with your next one..! Kris - Corr, I hope she doesnt go on for another few weeks Im not sure you could stand the wait yourself And im looking forward to seeing what your foal looks like aswell now. My mare is grumpy now too - She wants company, but she doesnt want you to touch her, she keeps kicking at her belly, shaking her neck, lifting her front leg... I have a feeling that in a months time when we are on foal watch, Im going to be feeling VERY guilty. poor baby. Heather - I bet your probably right there, If she thought you werent waiting and that it was an awkward time, shed probably have it right away! Danielle - Im quite embarrassed by my photos now, Your mare has such a lovely shine to her, maybe I should have groomed mine before the photos yesterday   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 185 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:11 pm:        Danielle, did your mare carry high and wide? It can be more diffecult to predict once they have already dropped. but by the pictures you have I want to say filly on her. I am sure what ever it is, it will be loved! Kim I am sorry I wish she does have a filly I always want to be wrong when the sex I predict is not what the owner wants, so here is to a filly for your gal! Good luck everyone.   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 65 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:39 pm:        Okay Jan I won't ask again after this.... Do you still think a colt. It is okay if it is I've decided to name it after my favorite tv show, Grey's Anatomy. His name will be Doctor McDreamy- Doc for barn name. But if you see a filly I'll have to think on that. Here she is at day 316........ http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/rosierearday316.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/rosiefrontday316.jpg Thanks in advance for another predition. Take care, Windy   Danielle Roosen-Runge Weanling Username: Rolling_hills_quarter_horses Post Number: 50 Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:53 pm:        She did carry high and wide... my results on the nail test was a filly as well. How long do you think I have? Kim - Don't be... I was actually quite embarrassed cause she is filthy... I might as well call her pig pen with how she goes out and rolls!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 354 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 06:25 pm:        things are really changing now! my mare looks small from one view and huge from another! rear view (one of the larger ones today) [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_6021.jpg[/IMG] a smaller view [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/e770368c.jpg[/IMG] and udder today...change from yesterday even! [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/c8482a6a.jpg[/IMG] I let her out in to the pasture today with the others for a few hours...they were absolutely fascinated with her, sniffing her hind end and udder area...too funny, she liked being out, it didnt take her too long to find a nice big mud puddle to roll in! (i had just cleaned her up right before turning her out) now she is resting quietly. eating hay. she is getting irritated at her belly though, it is quite comical to watch...she pins her ears, turns and looks at it, swishes her tail up adn doen and shakes her head, then walks a circle...ooohhh poor baby! she is getting so big...i just dont know ho much more her legs can carry!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 355 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 06:39 pm:        oops-didnt realize the side pic was so dark, heres a new one [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/1d3464ef.jpg[/IMG]   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 08:22 pm:        Kim W - I am sorry. My brain must have frozen from staring at my mare. I know it said 285 and I responded questioning 285, but for some reason my brain translated it into 385. My foal needs to be born quickly before I totally lose my mind!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 188 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 09:16 pm:        Kris your mare seems to look like she is carrying a filly and windy by the look of yours now she looks to be carrying a filly too but my gut still says colt so its a coin toss just to be safe wendy pick out a filly name too.   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 195 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:58 am:        Oh dear - Is that sleep deprivation kicking in... I thought you thought she looked too small to be 285, I couldnt beleive it though - I thought she was a bit of a hippo! Hope yours foals soon for your sanitys sake : )   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 360 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 06:34 am:        Jan- you think it looks like a filly now? oh man...i guess i better work on some girly names..just in case, what is the criteria? (high and wide is a ? low and wide is a ?) up till these pics all others you thought colt, so maybe she is too fat and far now for accuracy...but knowing her past (2/2 fillies) it is probably a filly...(i know dad helps on that...but i just have this feeling she'll always give me a filly and always a chestnut... two hings i dont want...so this is a real test!) I guess it is not a big deal, i just want a healthy happy mom and foal in the end! does she look dropped any more and getting closer? (other than milk....grrrr...   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 189 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 07:24 am:        sorry Kris, high and wide is filly usually and low is usually a colt. but that can change after the foal drops they all look like colts to me. Kris I am still going with a colt for you, but it is a guess like all the others so always prepare for another outcome. like predicting foaling it is an inexact science! I am guessing a colt for my mare too But I am hopeing I am wrong I want a filly.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 364 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 08:17 am:        i know it is not an exact science! its just like guessing a two legged pregnancy based on carrying and heart rate! thanks!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:36 pm:        Kris- no babies here yet either, we've got a snow storm right on top of us though, so maybe.. but I'm not holding my breath. Update to all on my husband, the surgery has been postponed for 3 weeks, he came down with the flu last night. ( perfect timing ) So, I have a sick spouse, a barn full of crabby, pregnant mares, and a blizzard about to descend on us.. lucky me. Jan- did your other mare foal yet?   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 369 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:47 pm:        WOW! i guess surgery postponed is ok, that gives those mares 3 weeks to do what they need to do!!! but i bet he is not looking orward to hte wait!!! well low pressure from a snow storm ought to be what it takes! did you see her recent posted pics? what so you think? progress? now today she is realy ribby feeling, she wasnt that way yesterday!   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 102 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 01:17 pm:        Ev- WOW is right! It could be a blessing in disguised. What is it that is said" When all hell breaks loose that is when the foals come". So Ev your hell has broken loose ...take advantage of it and enjoy those foals when they start popping out! Good luck with all!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 292 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 01:33 pm:        Kris- it's probably a blessing, his mother also took a major turn for the worse, I really expect that she'll pass this week, better that he's not trying to deal with surgery and the loss of his mother. I'll check out the photos and let you know what I think. Lori- lol, you hit it right on the head, let's just hope I don't get it too, I'm taking tylenol and refusing to acknowledge the "icky" feeling in my tummy. I just don't relish the idea of puking and pulling foals at the same time..lol. (and the smell of the amniotic fluid could be the last push to put me over the egde!)   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 190 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 02:04 pm:        Evie I will be praying that things turn around for you, poor thing, but God does not give us more then we can carry, your a very strong woman I believe, thank goodness! Hang in there, we are here for you if you need us I am sure I speak for most of us here! No foal yet to report and we are looking at a snow storm too but not too much I hope anyway. Kris sounds like your mare has dropped by the sounds of it. but watch out those mares can get in one heck of a holding pattern, you see changes every day then boom nothing for a week or more so I hope that does not happen to you, but be warned...It has happened to me and I think Evie too. Good foaling vibes to all.   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 505 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 02:33 pm:        Wow Ev, you have your lap full. We will include you and your family in our prayers. When it rains it pours- I know that feeling-we lost my mom, then 5 weeks later lost my grandmother, and the day that we burried her, my mother in law passed away-all after recovering from a c-section myself. Stay strong. I know that smell too. I was 4 months pg myself when I had to deliver a filly on sunny January morning. Oh, that is all it took for my morning sickness. Birth never bothered me until I was pg myself and the smell, the bag, the wet foal, it was all gross! Keep all your bugs your way too, my family of five is finally healthy all at once! We are ready for spring. We are thinking of you. Kim   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 372 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 02:34 pm:        yes evie I believe it probably is a blessing!! God works wonders! tell your hubby i am thinking of him through this trying and difficult time he is going through, (mom,himself,and yur foaling schedule) I hope for your sake you are not coming ill!! but then you know at least one would foal...right? Jan i was looking out and watching her today, i think she has dropped, she is wider at the base than she has been but boney on top. she will probably hold out a few more weeks on me! (oh well whats a few more?) she is only 328! we'll see. I have been turning her out for a few hours with the other horses for excercise the past few days, but i think today is the last day. they will not leave her alone, constantly sniffing and when she wont let them they will chase her. i am just getting rady to put her in...and there shell stay. ill take her out and walk her everyday instead. nothing for you jan?   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 293 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 02:52 pm:        Thanks to all for the well wishes, we'll get through this one day at a time. (don't know if you were aware be we also have strangles in the barn too, when it rains, it pours!) The delay in surgery may be best, if the mares will cooperate and drop those foals, it certainly will be. We'll have two more that need watching due the first part of April, those will be my next cause for concern but I just want to get these three foaled first. On a bright note, little Cisco is growing like a bad weed, IF I'm not ill tonight, I'll try to get some new photos of him, he's two weeks today.   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 202 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:13 pm:        Hi ev, Sorry that it all fell in your lap at once! I didnt get here to join the posts earlier, but it sounds as though you a managing well all things considered. And, looks like by the law of sod, you will have some foals by the time the month is out : ) Good luck! I got an email today from my mares last owner - who foaled from her last. She said the colt foal was a week early and the night before she started streaming milk, then the next day, in the afternoon, when they left to get lunch, she foaled in the field on her own... Which of these things is likely to pattern. Will the milk trend generally be the same in one mare from one yr to the next, and what about whether they foal during the day or night? Is that usually the same in the same mare from yr to yr? And gestation length too?   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 203 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:17 pm:        Sorry! Also....If she DOES stream milk, should I collect it up in a steralised baby bottle, and if I should, how should I store it?   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:30 pm:        Ev, I think you win the AWARD for the biggest cherry on top of your cake!!!Some one is going to have to let go sooner or later. Keep hanging in were all behind you in this one!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 294 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:33 pm:        Thanks Kim- it'll all settle down and even out eventually. (let's hope I don't stroke out in the meantime, lol ) The strangles are not so bad, one horse was really ill but he's on the mend now, I just worry about the foals getting it. One of the pregnant mares has it now, I'm not sure how that may affect her, she's not due till May so hopefully, she'll be ok. With regards to the mare, they often repeat the birthing patterns, but being bred to a different stallion can affect gestation length as can her age. I would just about expect her to drip the milk again, I'm not sure if you should save the milk or not, I've heard you should/shouldn't, that would be one for Jos to answer. ( we've had some mares drip and even spray milk out before they foaled, but never collected it as they foaled shortly after this started occurring)   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 507 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 05:43 pm:        Ditto ! (I did it again Ev!) I agree with Ev too. I have never saved the streaming milk, birth is real close at that point normally. Kim   Diane Blanzy Neonate Username: Pda_diane Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 03:23 am:        My girl isn't due until August 1st according to the calculator. She was bred last minute to our blue roan Percheron stallion before we sold him out to Idaho. This will be his only foal for this year and the gentleman who bought him plans on breeding him to his blue roan Perch mares. Definately hoping to chalk one up for the blue roan color in the Percherons. Rare as it is it could use all the help it can get. I have a 100% chance for a black foal, and a 50% chance for a blue roan. I'm crossing my fingers for a filly, seems like a filly year is dominating everywhere I go. The wait is what is killing me, not the fact that I want August to be here. lol. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/PDA_Diane/WixomMarchPreg.jpg   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 193 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 08:44 am:        Kris I woulds say yes she looks dropped to me. Good for you! Jade has been fropped for a week and a half now and still no foal, but I have had others last year that foaled a day or two after dropping so you just never know. Jade is dripping milk when she walks so i think we may just have a foal by at least tomorrow. time will tell. Hang in there Evie!   Jenn Breeding Stock Username: Jenn Post Number: 139 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 09:46 am:        I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for your medicine hat Jan, but this suspense is killing me (I not very patient at the best of times). Good luck Evie, it sounds like you are having quite a time. Diane, I hope time flys by for you. Also, I didn't realize that Percherons could be blue roan, I thought that they were just black or gray. Huh, you learn something new every day. Good luck.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 195 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 10:01 am:        Boy do I know about suspense!!!!! Time will tell what we get, but I just want a healthy foal, lost two right off the bat, so my luck has got to turn,hint hint wink wink that this foal is born strong and healthy. Anything else like a filly and/or medicine hat is gravy. Thanks for your well wishes!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 296 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:09 am:        Jan- it sounds like you are very close indeed, I sure wish you the best of luck, keep us posted. Jen-thanks for the well wishes, we'll get it all ironed out..the sick horses are improving, the surgery has been rescheduled ( 3 weeks from now ) and we may just have the bulk of the foals on the ground before then. Kim- high five, I'm proud of you for utilizing that little word..lol. I'm doing ok, darn tired today, I'm not sure how much longer it'll be before I just sit down and collapse..I posted on the other thread, we had a horse colt ( bay ) at 2:30 a.m. this morning. Nasty old Daisy did a decent job of it, and though she really had to push, she got him out all on her own. (she'd have made it easier if she'd not laid down up against the corner with her behind UNDER the feeder..what a smart horse. NOT. Anyway, he's lively and fine this morning according to my hubby. I'll post photos tomorrow as I was too tired to even consider trying to get them in the wee hours. Kris- still waiting for that elephant your mare is carrying to make it's appearance!! tell her to hurry up!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 386 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:09 am:        Jan, with luck she will wait longer, it is tto cold here, and still no milk! her udder as actually regressed back to about nothing! but hse sure LOOKS ready otherwise! she is real hollow ahead of her hips, but thick in hte flank!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 197 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:20 am:        Kris, Keeping fingers crossed and prayers out that your mare waits for a nice warm day to foal for you. also added to the prayers that she gets a bag full of milk by the time the foal hits open air. Thanks Evie for the well wishes, Hope you recover soon and gain much needed rest! hang in there!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 297 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 12:12 pm:        Jan- will do, one way or the other..lol. Unfortunately, we're headed for breeding season, this year will be easier than last though, no trips to outside stallions, we can do it all at the barn.. YEAH! (though I'll miss seeing those foals out of that stud next spring, he sure puts some pretty babies on the ground) How's your mare progressing? Kris- I sure hope that udder gets busy for you. This mare that foaled last night did not have a huge bag but there was a definite change when I looked at her yesterday early in the morning. Maybe, just maybe when I check Sassy and Avery tonight I'll see that same sort of change. Sassy has had wax/honey colored something or other on the very tips of her teats for a week now..but she's still holding out.   Elena Vieira Weanling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 48 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 09:18 pm:        Hey Everyone I just have a few questions. My mare will be 320 days on friday. Her croup/butt area is getting all soft, it feels like she's not flexing at all. She is very sensitive around her udder. i can touch but can't try to milk her. She is still eating her grain, she's becoming very possesive about her food by the goats and dogs and even chased my dog away. She ate 3 flakes in a hour and a half. (she gets fed a lot so I don't think she's starving). She is running around a little bit, more than she was. What do you all think? Should I start checking on her at night? I don't know if she's waxing but there are little drops of milk at the end of her teets, but she did that a while ago too. Any suggestions? Thank You! Elena   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 202 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 07:42 am:        my mare is 350 days today, she cocks her leg in a weird angle when it is resting, stops and looks startled then shifts legs back and forth and when she walks she looks like she can not pick that foot up very high she almost partially drags her toe as she takes a step, she does not want to walk around unless she has too. Her bag is so tight it looks like it is going to burst and she was pawing alot and laying down getting up pawing and laying down again last night I thought for sure "this is it she is in labor" But NO. I am still waiting and waiting and waiting....one thing I did notice today is that her vulva looks very swollen and actually 50% of it gapes open and it looks very red inside, so the pressure is there and I see movement in the croup area and know the foal is in position. but I wait and wait some more. we will see. I may have to threaten her with the industrial shop vac giggle. Elena I do not think it is time yet for hourly watching of your mare from the sounds of it. My mare has had that relaxing along the tail area for about 3 weeks or so. when you say flakes of hay is it grass hay or alfalfa? has she dropped yet? got any pictures? Good luck everyone!!!! Hope these ladies foal soon. I know what you mean about breeding season, we are breeding two maybe three this year ourselves of course by AI so its all the Ultrasounds teasing and of course the inseminations etc. But you just got to love the byproduct of all that hard work, it's why we keep doing it year after year!.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 395 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 08:23 am:        jan- it has GOT to be SOON!!!!! mine is 330 today, still nothing! yours is probably by the weekend huh?   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 279 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 08:30 am:        (I may have to threaten her with the industrial shop vac) mercy Jan if ya do that threaten mine too.Ive threatened to name the baby little heifer if it doesn't hurry up...   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 306 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 10:02 am:        Well gals, no new arrivals and alas no photos today either. I took my camera to the barn last night only to discover that the battery was dead... it just figures. Avery and Sassy are still holding on but all this waiting means there are other mares getting closer too. Peppy had a very full udder last night, she's not 332 days..but she's 14 and I don't expect her baby before 340 days.. The little foal born on Monday is looking much better, we named him "Drew".. his momma is still a fruitloop..so I bet she doesn't get to keep him for too long as we're afraid he'll pick up her crazy habits. Kris- still nothing? Jan- what IS your mare waiting on ?   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 396 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 10:13 am:        Ev- nothing? another false alarm huh?...nothing here either...but a bigger udder!!!yeahhhhh!! progress to the good...im cool with that! i know early in the day it is usually bigger, but i check it every am, every afternoon, and every night before bed! and it is rounder and firmer! (not much but a bit!) im thinking april 6-8th! not sure why just am! but that dont mean ill change my watching habits!!! she sure must be biting at her sides...wet spots everywhere! and she is a pig!devouring hay like she hasnt eaten forever! now thats wierd!   Peggie M Neonate Username: Peggie_m Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 10:14 am:        Jan H - Boy, I think our mares have been talking to each other. Telly is at day 352 today and doing all the same things as yours.... We'll have to see who finally gives in first. I've had her tail wrapped, udder and vulva washed FOUR TIMES!!!! Then everything stops!!! Does anyone know if you can post video on the photobucket? I've been taping Telly but when I tried to copy pics onto the memory card, I realized the card is "stuck" in my camera and I can't get it out. I'll have to take it to the "shop" but I don't want to do that until this baby is born....I'd really like to share some of the video. She is so huge   Dianne Edwards Neonate Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 10:15 am:        Just read your post about your baby, Had to tell you--My studs name is Drew. His APHA reg name is Rayburns Drew and he is a joy! He is a sorrel and white Tovero. The mare we are wait on and watching is pregnant with his foal. His first since we got him, and her first since we have had her. It is so exciting!!!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 311 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 12:08 pm:        Dianne- let's hope this "little Drew" turns out as well. His momma is pretty much a spazz and she's mean to boot, but at least his sire is good natured so he's got 1/2 a chance of being a sane horse. I'll post photos of him tomorrow. Kris- nothing.. can you believe it? Sassy had her butt pressed up against the wall last night like she's holding the foal in there..lol. Crazy mare. they'll not keep me waiting too much longer..that much I'm sure of.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 179 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 12:47 pm:        Peggie - you can post video on photobucket if you sign up for the next level membership which is $25.00 a year. They just sent me an e-mail on it and I signed up. Let me know if you want me to forward the e-mail to you.   Peggie M Neonate Username: Peggie_m Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 01:35 pm:        Kathee - that would be great! Thanks so much for looking into that. Would it be possible for you to cut and paste it to the message board? Just in case anyone else has the same question. Thanks again!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 180 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 02:05 pm:        Here is the link to upgrade for photobucket. This will allow 3 min videos. http://photobucket.com/upgrade.php   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 126 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 03:03 pm:        Hey, I have some new pictures of my mare. Here they are take at 306 days: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20156.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20159.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20152.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20151.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20150.jpg   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 06:10 pm:        Man oh man this mare is gonna be the end of me LOL Kassie I have a mare named Nebon (means number two in japanese) her name is "angels nebon of troheus" her mothers name is "angel of tropheus" she looks very much like your mare. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/PICT0022.jpg Evie I am sure Drew will turn out just fine...I have faith in that. Besides he has you to show him the ropes. Peggy I hope both of our mares go soon! I need the sleep! I am sure you do as well. The Industrial shop Vac is available to rent if any of you folks need it. Here are some updated udder pictures she has been leaking some as she walks. I just got done milking some off to save since her udder was so hard and painful. it is in the freezer in case I need it. I am afraid she may not have any colostrum left if she does not foal soon. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/c19361a0.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/438c916c.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/d4cc8ae1.jpg   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 183 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 06:47 pm:        Jan - your baby is coming tonight...I feel it...   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 121 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 08:10 pm:        Kris great to hear you have progress. Would not doubt that she probably is closer than you think.IMO she may not bag up fuller till just before since she is acting the way that she is. Question though, do not a lot of Arabs foal earlier than most? And would she not be considered like a maiden since it has been ALONG time since her last foal?? Correct me if I am wrong on this? My guess within the week.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 404 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 06:49 am:        Raven, you know part of me wants to say she will have it by sunday(especially since hubby will be out of town and i will have no support should i need it, ...going back to those foaling rules), but i guess because i am so concerned bout milk that i feel she will wait longer! I am just at a loss...I dont know...but it is kind of funny, not only am i waking to check on her, but the hubby is too (i think he may be catching the bug!) yesterday when my hubby got home he asked, whats wrong with Tsaharah? I said why he said because she looks like an old sway backed nag! (she normally has a very full flat back) last night as i looked out at her i realized that yes she does look like an old nag!!!! when i was massaging her yesterday she actually enjoyed it (last couple months she has not wanted to be brushed let alone massaged) that is another of her signs she is getting ral close, she gets very lovey and friendly! and it is starting! about being a "maiden" type because it has been so long...I dont know...i have wonderedmyself...maybe i will post a thread on it and someone willhave an opinion, maybe Jos even! HELLO JAN>>>>BABY OR WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 281 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 06:51 am:        Ok im gonna take up a collection so I can rent Jans vac.....Jan hows it going?baby yet?I think my mare has her leggs crossed waiting on warm weather if thats the case it will take awhile (sigh)   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 185 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:04 am:        I'm hoping Jan is preoccupied snapping lots of baby pics for us to see!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 207 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:49 am:        Umm sorry to disappoint you gals, but nope no foal yet, although she has wax that is an inch long on her teats right now, but no foal yet...Gonna plug in the shop vac tonight and suck that foal out so help me elvis I will LOL I trhink by the time the foal comes I will be seeing double, if that happens I may have to turn myself in for bigamy...since i will see two husbands...yikes that is a scary thought, might as well put me in the looney bin with two husbands once too many as it is!!!! Deena you tell your mare that horses are not supposed to play twister!! Hopefully tonight! Fingers crossed and eyes crossed (not for good luck, just from lack of sleep).   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 320 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:54 am:        Jan- I think ours may go today, of course she will, I'm tied to the desk/computer.. she'll foal, she's completly ungrateful for my attention. GRR.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 413 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:05 am:        WHAT??!?!?!? no baby Jan? boy those mares are defineately stubborn arnt they?   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 283 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:14 am:        Jan I feel for ya.Reba is 343 days today and it seems as if she has joined the up and down udder club.GRRR shes an old maiden and to say the least youd think she would show some mercy but no I swear she seems to be going backwards......   Dianne Edwards Nursing Foal Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:38 am:        Thanks to Terry O and Deena I think I can post pics of Zorro and her boyfriend. Let me know if they dont work please! http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/cleandrew.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/eZorrooct04.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/322profile.jpg   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 187 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:10 pm:        Dianne - your pics worked fine. Congrats! Do you have any idea what to expect from this pair - is he homozygous Tovero or are the possibilities open?   Danielle Roosen-Runge Yearling Username: Rolling_hills_quarter_horses Post Number: 59 Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 01:12 pm:        I think my mares are definitely holding out just to spite me. They are at 347 and 348 as of today... I bet they foal by the weekend. Both are having signs beyond signs.   Peggie M Nursing Foal Username: Peggie_m Post Number: 15 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 01:36 pm:        No foal for me yet either (day 353 and counting...) Telly started to drip grey-white milk from her udder at 3:00a.m. this morning. She paced most of the night, biting at her sides, swishing her tail, didn't eat her grain yesterday but devoured the hay.... Jan, should I be collecting the milk or wait to see if she foals within 24 hrs???? Maybe we'll both have foals on the ground by tomorrow am   Dianne Edwards Nursing Foal Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 18 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 01:51 pm:        Dont know what to expect,previous owner of stud said he had not been checked for homozygous gene, but had only produced paint babies for him. When bred to black or dark mares babies were black & white toby, dont know what we will get with a palomino. Just gives us another thing to be excited to wait and see!!!!!!!!!!! Any predictions from any of you guys?   Peggie M Nursing Foal Username: Peggie_m Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 04:28 pm:        Dianne - I'm going to make an "uneducated" guess and say you'll have a bay or chestnut and white toby..... Our stud is a black and white toby as well and has had all paint babies except one solid chestnut. The mare was grey... Telly is a chestnut so we'll see what we get....If it ever arrives!!! (Day 353) There's a picture of the stud we used on the web at: http://www.ironhorseequine.com/html/warmbloods.htm You have to scroll to the bottom of the page. His name is "Upstart" (if you want to have a look) (Message edited by peggie_m on March 23, 2006)   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 132 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 06:19 pm:        Dianne, has your mare ever had a foal before? If so did she pass on her dilute gene? If she does pass on her dilute you could get a palomino or buckskin toby. Those are soooo pretty.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 133 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 06:22 pm:        Dianne, I just saw the picture of your palomino mare. She is so pretty she looks a lot like my palomino mare Kadi http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20110.jpg We bred Kadi the first of march to a Buckskin Stallion, and yesterday they did ultrasound and found you she is pregnant, so now we just have to wait it out till next year.   Dianne Edwards Nursing Foal Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 07:48 pm:        She has foaled before, but dont know what she had. I was told by the "broker" we got her from she had just lost a baby when we got her 3 years ago. She is my sons and he wants a palomino paint, I hope she has it for him. I am sooo mad my friend just called her mare that was bred later in the same week we bred Zorro just had her baby. Misty is black, the baby is a black and white filly. Im not really mad, just doesnt seem fair, they were not even on mare stare yet. She doesnt have a digital camera to email me pics either, I'll have to send someone over to take pics tommorrow. When I get them I will post them.   Elena Vieira Weanling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:15 pm:        Hey Everyone, I've finally get pics loaded on photobucket, from 4 days ago. She's even bigger since. what do ya'll think...still a colt jan? http://photobucket.com/albums/d111/Opheliaimmorttal/ Elena   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 208 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:15 pm:        Elena she still looks to be carrying a colt to me, but of course it is just a guess. Sometimes I get lucky. Jade still has not folaed yet, she is in a holding pattern I can not wait to get this foal. I need a baby to play with since losing Diggers foals. I need my foal fix. Speaking of palomino's I have a 2 and a half year old gelding he is 15 hands already. He is a pretty boy, but thats just my opinion anyway, here he is at 2 years old. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/PICT0041.jpg and here is another the mare behind him is 17 hands tall (digger) who aborted twin foals http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/PICT0054.jpg I hope everyones mares who are due or what seems like over due, foal now or this weekend! I would love to see more foal pics and share the experiences with everyone Happy foal Vibes and hugs all around!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 188 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 12:15 am:        Jan - since I have no baby to show either...I will show you my palomino gelding...he is 5 yr and 16.5 hands...he kept showing up while I was taking Dream's pics (she was 321 days in pic)don't you just love the big horses! Your guy is gorgeous and Digger is awesome...is she doing well? PS - feel like updating your baby prediction? You said colt first time...maiden mare. http://photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/?action=view&current=321frontview.jp g   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 218 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 03:46 am:        Wow jan - hes impressive!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 214 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 07:41 am:        Kathee hard to tell by that picture how she is carrying, she looks high and wide like a filly but my gut tells me its a colt. I hope i am wrong for your sake. Your gelding is gorgeous! such a big guy. my gelding I am not sure how big he is going to get, his sire was 16.3 his dam is 15.1 he is still rump high and growing so we will see. Digger is acting like her old self again culture and cytology came back awesome! She is clean as a whistle. we will be looking to breed her late April or early May doing the AI and sending for her boyfriend in a bag via UPS Air. We will also seek to breed Nebon at the same time if we get them cycling together. I like to have at least 2 or 3 mares bred nearly the same time.   Dianne Edwards Weanling Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 11:06 am:        All these palomino pics, had to show you our other guy. He is a gelding,looks alot like yours Jan. You guys have some really pretty horses! Dianne http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/pal.jpg   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 191 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 12:22 pm:        Jan - at 15 hands now, it looks like he's planning on taking after daddy. He sure is pretty. Dianne - he is very striking. I am looking at a palomino stud for next year's baby. I think they are so attractive and eye catching.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 134 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 03:16 pm:        I walked out this morning and had to run get my camera after I saw all the horses. It was nap time at our place today at 10:00 am. Hope you enjoy the pic. http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20161.jpg   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 428 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 03:33 pm:        Jan- was it you that wanted a medicine hat paint? i have a friend selling a gelding. (in Minnesota though) Kassie-that is too cute!!! looks like at my house today at 1:30! i love thdeard guards! they looked like they were wishing it was their turn to nap!   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 520 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 04:49 pm:        Ahhh! Baking in the sun! Sure wish we had some around here Kim   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 192 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 04:55 pm:        Kassie - really cute - they usually stop doing the 'cute' thing when they see a camera - nice catch!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 137 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 08:51 pm:        Hey, I worked with my 13 month old cremello colt today. saddled him for the first time just to see what he would do. he did great, and gave me some really cute photos. Anyhow I thought I would share: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/kodas%20first%20time%20undersaddle.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Kodasaddled1.jpg   Dianne Edwards Weanling Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 10:29 pm:        Kassie, your babies look very content. Love that colts eyes. Zorro (our pregnant mare) seems to have decided she does not want a baby after all, at 345 days she seems more comfortable than she has been in weeks. Im beginning to think shes never going to have this baby. Dianne   SDS Weanling Username: Whisper05 Post Number: 38 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 11:30 am:        Here are 2 of my mares that are due soon: Fancy at 330 days,she is miserable,not the greatest pic: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/majestiq2003/detail?.dir=/e6fc&.dnm=aacb.jpg&.src= ph Lea at 316 days, she is 23 years old and seems content as usual: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/majestiq2003/detail?.dir=/e6fc&.dnm=7975.jpg&.src= ph   Dianne Edwards Weanling Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 01:10 pm:        well, what do ya think? This is Zorro this morning day 346. There seems to have been a change in the shape of her belly. See the bump behind her front legs, looks like that baby is going to drop out from there. She is doing well, has more energy and her hind leg she was limping on seems to be better. Any predictions colt or filly, what do ya think? http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/325profile.jpg   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 01:20 pm:        Hey Everyone, Yesterday night, or morning..i realized that my mares udder has really changed. It is really full and right around the nipple is a circle that is bigger than the udder(does that make since?) She doesn't have any milk in her nipples but today it they looked almost halfway full but still a circle of more milk above it. Her udders bigger than I've ever seen it. She's at 321 days today. I gave her Bran mash today because i was out of her grain and she wasn't as usually enthusiastic about it and didn't eat it all and ate some of her hay. I went to check her tail, and it was loose, her croup/butt is loose feeling and her poop is loose too, it was on her vulva. She's also huge. How long do you think I have? I am going to try to take a picture of her udder if it stops raining today. I am going to work on my foal kit all day today! i am soo excited I hope it's soon! Elena   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 52 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 02:40 pm:        Hey Everyone-Again! I went outside and took some pictures.... Aspen at 321 days http://photobucket.com/albums/d111/Opheliaimmorttal/?action=view&current=DSCN027 8.jpg Udder at 321 days (excuse the mud) http://photobucket.com/albums/d111/Opheliaimmorttal/?action=view&current=DSCN027 9.jpg What does everyone think? http://photobucket.com/albums/d111/Opheliaimmorttal/ I am gonna try to clean her today I think.. Thanks! Elena   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 229 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:04 am:        Elena - you have a lovely looking mare, is this her first foal? Shes seems to look so neat and tidy carrying that bump around - Mines is large and awkward looking in comparison to those photos you have!! Ad she is less far along. Dianne - there is no use having me make a prediction - I have little to no experience to judge from! Sorry! SDS - Yours look far along to me. Fancy would have me on foal watch big time just from looking at that picture - Is her croup real soft? Thats what I saw in the photo. Hi Kassie - Well he doesnt look too bothered huh. Good luck with your training   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 230 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:10 am:        Oh, I wanted to post some pictures - This is my girl at 291days (now at 293, so they are recent) Her looking large and awkward : ) http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/291%20days/291days.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/291%20days/291bump.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/291%20days/291belly.jpg What do you think - Does she look very big to you? Elena, Like you said, I took the pictures friday - Saturday I gave her a clean. If you see dirt, she is free of it now! Next time Ill clean her BEFORE I take the pictures!   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 144 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:22 am:        Kim looks like she is coming along nicely. p.s. I did not see any dirt on your mare. My motto "you see dirt, you clean dirt" I really do not have time to come to the UK and clean your mare so she looks fine to me   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 199 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:54 pm:        Kim - she has growin since your other pics. After Kris's mare, they all look small! She looks like she has grown, but she looks good for 10 months.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 436 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 08:34 pm:        Kathee- scary thing is she is even BIGGER now!!! i am downloading right now to post them. (dial up is so slow!)   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 439 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:12 pm:        this is the only one to load tonight...being difficult i GUESS! REAR VIEW [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6131.jpg[/IMG]   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 153 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:29 pm:        Oh Kris- hard one to say! There is something LARGE growing in there   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 442 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:34 pm:        heres the rest. front view i got impatient and cut off her legs, but the belly is there. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/5a67cba9.jpg[/IMG] saide view [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/5610dfa4.jpg[/IMG] BIG OR WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 201 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:59 pm:        Kris - as stated on the other thread...elephant   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 233 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 02:43 am:        Oh my god kris : ) I dont want to upset the poor girl so dont tell her I said this but WOW - Shes huge!! Form the side - she pregnant, from the front, how does she stand up : ) Ahhh, I hope you get the foal soon - itll burst its way out soon huh. Shell love it, just because shes grateful she can see it, now she wont have to carry it around all day!   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 234 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 02:47 am:        Thankyou also those who looked at my girly, She has a healthy sized bump there, but no udder to match yet mind it is still 4-7weeks (earliest date - 'due' date) I refuse to consider the possibility she might hold out longer on me ; ) Im soo excited already - Ill burst before she does!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 444 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 06:49 am:        kim, i know what you mean! from the side she has gotten smaller looking, more and more every day, but front and rear shots, UGH!!! she literally waddles! she will love be able to run and kick at the other horse again! right now if someone upsets her it is only about 2 steps with teeth bared, she dont stand a chance, and if someone chased her allseh can do is a couple quick steps and spin her way out. she would probably do better if she rolled! kathee- i personally have only seen one very LARGE pregnant mare, fom side view she almost drug, but front and rear not too bad...now mine HOLY WIDE!!!!!! she makes all others ive seen look "just pregnant!"   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 447 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 07:39 am:        OK NOW THERES PROGRESS!!!! udder pics from this morning...the sleepless night paid off...[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6148.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6143.jpg[/IMG] big change from yesterday! [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_6045.jpg[/IMG] see ravens thread to rad about her restlessness last night!   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 238 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 07:44 am:        Oh yay kris - milk at last, she was just trying to add to the pressure, she intended to make it all along. Theres one more sign down then, shouldnt be many more to go now until the new arrival!!!!!!!!!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 448 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 07:45 am:        BETTER LATE THAN NEVER!!!!!!!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 340 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 09:59 am:        Kris- that's good news..I'm glad she's finally getting busy. Sassy foaled on Saturday after 3 days of dripping milk, we've never had one go that long once they started to drip. She had a little bitty bay colt. I had photos all on a disc to bring to work with me, and grabbed the wrong disc! Maybe tonight I can add Avery and Peppys' foals to it and bring it tomorrow..(and you can bet I'll mark it so I get the right one this time!)   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 450 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:22 am:        SO YOU HAVE TWO EXTREMES? LITTLE BITTY AND BIG!? IM THINKING SHE WILL PROGRESS FAST NOW, JUST BECAUSE I CHECKED HER AT 6:30 AND AT 8:30 THIS AM, AT 9:30 IT WAS SUPER FIRM! SHE IS TURNED OUT ALONE IN A SMALL PASTURE SO SHE CAN ROLL OR WHATEVER IF SHE FEELS THE NEED TO, WELL SEE IF HTE UDDER SHRINKS OR GOES DOWN THIS AFTERNOON WHEN I PUT HER IN! MAY BE A LONG NIGHT AGAIN.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 216 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:39 am:        ANNOUNCEMENT JADE IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE A BEAUTIFUL TOBIANO FILLY BORN AT 3:35 AM THIS MORNING! PICTURES TO FOLLOW LATER TODAY! It was not a medicine hat though. Of course I missed the whole thing have had the stomach flue for 2 days and I knew she would foal because she was rolling like crazy the afternoon before the foal was born! It is finally over Thank God. Will post later. Happy foal vibes to all!!!!!!   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 155 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:40 am:        Kris this is GREAT progress looks like a couple of more days though. She looks to have the milk veins starting on her legs, how about her belly any there? Lady was like your mare on her second false alarm with the laying down pattern. OOOOOOh your getting closer !   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 239 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:44 am:        Jan! Well done - Im soooo pleased for you - I wish it could have been perfect and been a medicine hat but at least its safely on the ground now. Congratulations. I cant wait to see the pictures!! thats really good news! Ev - Exactly the sort of thing Id do - Memory like a fish! Hope you can get the photos on soon. Well done both Jade & Sassy   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 341 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 11:04 am:        Kris- no kidding, extremes everywhere it seems! I'm just so thrilled to see your mare producing some milk, that was a worriesome situation! Jan-Congrats, I'm so happy (as I KNOW you are) that things went well with Jade and I'm jealous that you got a filly..lol. Kim- I think this is where the exhaustion is taking over, 4 nights straight in the barn, I sleep some, but wake up every little bit and check the monitors to see what the mares are doing. Avery was down for almost 2 hours this morning, apparently just resting..lol. Peppy is the one we really thought would foal last night, she didn't. I just hope she spits it out today so that I can get some sleep! IF she and Ave would get it over with, we could relax for about a week till the next bunch come into that 320+ window. If they don't hurry, they will overlap the others and I'll not get any rest till May!   Virginia Tache Neonate Username: Painted_acres_farm Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 11:45 am:        Well what do you all think of my mare we are sitting at 322 days today , this is photos of her udder taken March 25th 2006 what is she having I hope for a filly but no matter what it is as long as its healthy ! Should add Cinnamon mare at 322 days is obviously the little lady on the right http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/RomeosMom/cinnmarch25.jpg Here she is with her pasture mate Patti who is due late june . begining of july . http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/RomeosMom/mygirls.jpg (Message edited by Painted_Acres_Farm on March 27, 2006)   Virginia Tache Neonate Username: Painted_acres_farm Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:15 pm:        Just checked Cinnamon , and just overnight her vulva has completely changed , is more relaxed , enlongated and opened at the end another good sign were heading in the right direction !~ Virginia   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 451 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:43 pm:        AWESOME JAN! I WAS SO HOPING!!!!! PHEW, A FEW MORE HEALTHY BABIES ON HE GROUND...AND MANY IN THE SHADOWS... YES EV I TOO AM GLAD TO SEE HER PRODUCING! IT IS A HUGE WEIGHT OFF! I DID LOCATE COLOSTRUM THOUGH SHOULD I NEED IT! RAVEN-THE MILK VEINS INSIDE HER LEGS AND ON HR ABDOMEN HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, SHE IS JUST SHEDDING HAIR NOW SO YOU CAN SEE THEM BETTER NOW! IM THINKING PROBABLY 3-4 DAYS MINIMUM OR AS MANY AS??????? I HAVE PICS FROM PREVIOUS PREGS, SHE IS AT ABOUT THE STAGE OF 5 DAYS BEFORE, BUT IT TOOK LONGER THAN A DAY TO GET THERE THOSE TIMES TOO, UNLIKE THIS TIME! SO WE WILL SEE! SHE IS OFFICIALLY AWAY FROM THE OTHERS, I PUT HER OUT TODAY SO SHE COULD GO ROLL IN A NICE SANY SPOT, AND THEY ALL STARTED TO CHASE HER AND BITE AT HER, I GOT HER OUT QUICK...THEY KNOW SHES DIFFERENT NOW I THINK WE'LL WAIT NOW TILL BABY IS A FEW WEEKS OLD.   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 344 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:48 pm:        Kris- we had to move Sassy right after she foaled too, there was a gelding stalled next to her and he was going bonkers.. (which of course upset her) the baby was still wet when he went for his first little walk down the ilseway to a more isolated area..they are happier now. Hubby went and swapped out the 2nd spy camera and bought a 2nd t.v. so we're watching two stalls now in color. We'll have a fortune in electronics before the last mare foals! We have a plan for next year though, two foaling stalls and we'll cycle them in and out as they get close to delivery..that might well be the easiest thing to do (and easier to watch) What is T bred to Kris? sorry, I've forgotten.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 453 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:54 pm:        SHE IS BRED TO A 15.3 HAND YELLOW ZEBRA DUN 95% FOUNDATION BRED QUARTER HORSE THAT CARRIES THE CREAM GENE (ZAN PARR BAR/SKIP SHOT/DICK BADGER/SETTA HANCOCK/PAULA GEORGE/WILD WASP/ANITA KING LINES) A BIG BOY...I AM NERVOUS! MY 11 MONTH OLD FILLY OUT OF HIM IS 800+POUNDS AND 14 HANDS! (QH MARE) I AM EXCITED FOR THIS CROSS, AS IS HTE STALLION OWNER!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 347 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:56 pm:        wow, you could get a dun, a palomonio..I'd think you had pretty good odds of getting something other than sorrel. I have a yellow zebra dun filly from last year but she's going gray. Her dam was a yellow dun/roan and the sire was gray. I just hope she keeps her dorsal and tiger stripes on her legs when she grays out, wouldn't that look cool?   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 01:04 pm:        Kim- Thanks. She still acts like she's miss priss, prim 'n perfect even though she's walking around with her big belly. I hope she foals soon.This is her first foal! Jan- CONGRATS! I am glad you got a healthy foal-even though it's not a medicine hat I have been busy lately because yesterday we built a 16 ft long by 7 ft deep leen tube for Aspen with about 30-40 feet of pasture. It's nice. I think it will be soon. Her vulva(is that the right word) is really loose and is a darker pink. I am already waiting anxiously and i am only at 323 days. Hehe Well I hope everyone has healthy foals! I am already having dreams/nightmares about her foal. lol. Good Luck everyone. I want to see pictures! (Jan!) Elena   Amber Tedford Yearling Username: Amber Post Number: 57 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 01:09 pm:        CONGRATS, Jan! I was wondering where you've been. Hope you're feeling better. Can't wait for pics!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 454 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 01:13 pm:        I AM RALLY HOPING FOR A DUN OR PALOMINO, AND A RED DUN WOULD BE OK TOO, MY LEAST WANTED IS A CHESTNUT/SORREL, JSUT BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE 2. BUT T HAS BEEN BRED TO A BAY AND A GREY AND BOTH TIMES GAVE A CHESTNUT, BU T THE ONE BRED TO THE GREY(ROSE GREY) IS A DARK BROWNISH RED CHESTNUT, AND TO THE BAY WAS A FLAXEN(ALMOST WHITE MANE AND TAIL) CHESTNUT. SO IM THINKING CHESTNUT/SORREL..BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING! A DUN WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE!!! A DUN QUARAB COLT HAS BEEN MY LIFELONG DREAM!!! SO WELL SEEIF IT COMES TRUE!!! GRAY WITH THE DUN MARKS WOULD BE AWESOME!! (MY LITTLE FILLY IS ROANED TO THE POINT OF LOOKINGREY AND IT IS A NEAT COLOR!)[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/100_5696.jpg[/IMG] WELL IM ABOUT TO GO CHECK ONHER...ANY NEW ILL BE IN TO POST!   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 01:27 pm:        Hey Everyone, I wrote this for all of you who are at 340+ days! I feel your pain/anxiousness and I am only at 323 days. Tell me what ya'll think!Elena Vieira Waiting On A Pregnant Mare My pregnant mare is 345 days, I’ve been counting since day 321, I’ve woke up every hour, I thought this was suppose to be fun… My pregnant mare is 346 days, I’ve almost lost my mind, What happened to the maiden mares, That have their foals in no time. My pregnant mare thinks its funny and tells her friends to watch this, She lays down and rolls and shows some signs, I run from my house and watch anxiously from the gate, She gets up and smirks, “she’ll do that every time.” I don’t go to work, Because I fear that she’ll foal when I am not around, My husband and I are not that great, Because I now sleep outside on the ground. My friends think its funny, Because all I do is sit at the stable, I am seriously considering, Installing cable. My mare is 360 days, I read that the average is 320-345, I guess they’ve never had a mare, Who loves to laugh at you when you run outside. I hope she foals soon, Because I don’t know how much longer I can take, I get 4 rough hours of sleep a night, And even then I am partially awake. My mare is 365 days pregnant, And I can’t see, Why she doesn’t just up and hurry up, Delivering my baby.   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 218 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 01:56 pm:        I am so glad everyones mares seem to be making progress!!!! about time. I have missed everyone here! Hope everyone is well even though I know many of you are without sleep...been there done that NO FUN!!!!! Hang in there because after all that wait you get something like this! http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/395d99ad.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/0e262027.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/316e465e.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/cmpsp1/a1337b27.jpg   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 157 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 02:17 pm:        Kris love your little filly! If you bred to a FQH that is probably why she is so huge? Jan JUST LOVE YOUR LITTLE FILLY SHE IS GORGEOUS!!!! You are so lucky getting a filly! I'm so sorry that your were sick during this foaling but that is when they decide to deliver. Glad all is well!   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 241 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 02:41 pm:        AHHH Jan she is very cute - Im also jealous of you having a filly - But you never know, I might have no need to be, Mine might surprise me! hmmmmmm. Kris - I was going to ask you the breeding too! Id forgotten and I was thinking abot it this afternoon. Have you got any pictures of the stallion? Ive never heard of a zebra dun, not sure if I know what they look like?   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 352 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 03:10 pm:        Kris- she is very pretty, I'll be happy if Sable turns out that color. She's shedding her dun coat now though and she seems almost grulla color underneath, which is entirely possible, but I have no illusions that she'll stay that way. <sigh> she'll be gray like her sire, the best I can hope is that she'll keep her lovely stripes! (eww, what an attitude this filly has, we went round and round this weekend..I won in the end, I can only take pleasure in knowing she's got to be as sore as I am!)   Virginia Tache Neonate Username: Painted_acres_farm Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 04:07 pm:        Ohhhhh How adorable Jan H she is just lovely Bet your glad its all over with and everyone is happy and heathly ! Good Job to mom and sorry you were ill ! Thats a bummer. Virginia   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 202 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 04:49 pm:        Jan - great news! She sure tried to be a Medicine Hat! She is just beautiful. Well I have been feeling poorly since yesterday, maybe I should go and tell Dream. Ev - congrats to you! I can't wait to see the pics. Virginia - they are both pretty mares. No doubt which side your closest on is carrying on! Aren't they funny when they are so lopsided!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 356 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:14 am:        Kathee- photos are posted on the baby link..still just have the three boys, I'm waiting anxiously for that filly I'm praying that Avery is carrying..   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 533 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:26 am:        Jan, love your filly. She is just beautiful. sorry to hear that you missed it ,but glad that everything is ok. --Gotta love those spots! Kim W., what Kris is probabally referring to is the primitive markings. The stripes on the shoulders, legs and even some tipping on the ears is commonally called "zebra" markings often a zebra dun! Kimk   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 466 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 01:40 pm:        yep! and stripes on the ears, outlined in black with black ear tips. also stripes above and below the eyes(looks like a poor makeup job), what looks like cob webs on the face (forehead), "shadows" on the neck.   melissa Breeding Stock Username: Mbgirl Post Number: 160 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 02:08 pm:        All things cute foals, it making me want to see my foal born soon. I should have one soon. take care, melissa   Kim k Breeding Stock Username: Kimk Post Number: 534 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 02:22 pm:        My fellow was a red dun overo, with the primitive markings, so his were in a darker shade of red compaired to the rest of the red dun. His ears were tipped in a darker color, and we didn't have the eye thing as his face was bald, but gues that we would have if it were a solid color due to his other markings . Everyone always liked him, thought that he was neat! Kim   Briana M. Lueker Neonate Username: Missbri Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 05:29 pm:        Well it has been a few weeks since I have been on here. I wasn't for sure if my mare was pregnant or not. But now I am for sure. It is so cool to feel the baby kick. I rub her belly and talk to it. I keep calling it a He, but I would much rather it be a filly. I just hope it is a healty baby. What is everyones thoughts on imprinting?   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 216 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 07:20 pm:        Imprinting makes a geat deal of sense to me. I was worried about having to do it as soon as the baby was born, but now I have two friends that were not there for the birth and they imprinted as soon as it was light. They did not go to the extremes of the Imprinting Video's recommendations and they can touch their foals everywhere. I am planning on being present (oh please, oh please) and touching the foal right away, but waiting until the next AM to do the full body routine. This was my vet's recommendation and it has worked well for my two friends.   Terry O. Weanling Username: Ksfarmer Post Number: 41 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:25 pm:        I think that imprinting is a must do if you can get to them safely. It takes a lot of time off of training them.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 468 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 06:28 am:        Ditto! i have always handled mine immediately! much friendlier and they are alot more trusting when it comes o later years of training and riding.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 474 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 09:32 am:        HEY GIRLS- CHECK OUT UDDER PICS THREAD FOR PAST 3 DAYS PROGRESSION. AND SIDE VIEW SHOT.   Dianne Edwards Weanling Username: Mamaedwards Post Number: 46 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 01:13 pm:        The idea of imprinting makes perfect sense to me, I wasnt there when our colt was born yesterday morning, but got him away from mom about noon(mom is very protective and a biter). He was very calm didnt buck or kick or try to run away, there were three teenagers and myself there. We all rubbed, patted and kissed all over him. I made sure to touch feet, ears, mouth, face, hindquarters, well just everywhere while we had him out. Later he walked over to check out my son sitting by the fence and let him pet him. He is so sweet, hope mom doesnt ruin him. With her pinning ears and biting. I just wish I could do it everyday. Good luck with your mare. Dianne   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 292 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 07:34 am:        Jan congradulations what a pretty filly.   Marie Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 09:40 am:        Hi All, I have been a lurker for awhile now and love the site. I live in SW Kansas and have an 18yr old AQHA mare that was pasture bred sometime in May last year. She was a hussy and jumped a couple hot wires to get with the stud. This is her 6th foal and I have only owned her through one other foaling, her last one 3 yrs ago. This one is totally different, she started bagging up around the middle of Jan. The vet was out March 3rd (after one of her numerous teasers) and said the foal was in postition at that time, he figured 2 more weeks well needless to say that did not happen. She has had us all convinced a few times in the last 2 weeks this is it but nooooooo. Yesterday afternoon she scared the bejeebers out of me, watching her on the cam I swore her water broke looked like about 10 gals of fluid came out of her, but nothing happened, called the vet, he said if she had not done something in an hour call him back (he was almost 3 hours away on a call) nothing happened so I called him back and he got here as soon as he could, he checked to see if she was dilated, barely, and then checked the postition of the foal, he said it is still in the right position and a little closer to the birth canal than a month ago. Apparently baby had been pinching off mom's bladder and when she got him moved she just opened the flood gates. She has also had a weird bulge on the lower part of her belly on the left side, he said she has slight edema but the bulge is the baby's butt. He also said she can go anytime. She has gone through the whole V-shaped belly already, I have seen the baby move in the croup area off and on for the last 2 weeks. We have had every type of wild weather and nothing is prompting baby to make an appearence, lol. My guestimate for her due date by going through all my pics from last year is she was bred in May, previous to that she was seperate from the stud. Her last foal she went 11 days early and showed NO signs of imminent foaling that's why this one is so different. Sending HFV to everyone playing the waiting game. Below is a link to her pics at my photobucket acct, newest (today) first. There are also pics of our other 5 horses, stud included. I want to thank everyone here for all the great info you provide. Have a wonderful day Marie http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 73 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:34 pm:        Okay everyone here's Rosie at day 323. These are from last week. She has dropped since these were taken. Will post more tomorrow. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/100_0398rosiefromthefrontday3 23.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/tripleffarms/100_0401lookatthatbootyday323 .jpg Healthy foal vibes to all. Rosie's "due date" is April 12th (340 days) the full moon is on the 13th and it is my daughter's birthday Rosie is her mare so we ( she ) are hoping she foals on day 341 that would tickle my daughter to death. our last foal was born the day before my mother's birthday. So just maybe it is a tread for us.   Jan Kous Neonate Username: Jan_kous Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 12:56 am:        Hi all! I want to share a photo of my pregnant mare, Rutta. Yesterday was the 300th day of her pregnancy. I think she is pretty big, huh? http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?img=91658&usernum=96033559 (Message edited by Jan_Kous on April 02, 2006)   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 268 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 03:38 pm:        Marie - Corr she must be driving you crazy with waiting - Hope she doesnt hold out too much longer for your sake Windy - Rosie is looking pretty big now huh? Much different from the last picture I saw. Hope you get your little guy on the ground safe and sound : ) Jan Kous....... Wow...Is she crossed with a mammoth? That thing is huge : ) Mine is 300 days today also, take a look at her front view below and check out the difference. My mare though, is 16hh, yours looks as though she is a pony, is that right? http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clafairy/300%20days/Front300Days.jpg Good luck all....   Angela Barbour Weanling Username: Angela_b Post Number: 43 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 05:42 pm:        Jan she is pretty   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 275 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 06:02 pm:        Jan K - It looks like someone doctored a pic! Man is she huge! How tall is she? P.S. She is also adorable!   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 304 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 06:03 pm:        jan shes huge.....   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 185 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 07:47 pm:        Jan K- I'm sorry but when I seen your picture of your mare I instantley thought of that little cartoon of the pony years ago that was always getting into trouble with it's rider. Some of you might remember what I am talking about. The little girl always rode engish. There use to be a whole series of her cartoons. She is VERY HUGE are you sure she has only one in there????   Tansy Brassfield Weanling Username: Spccutnoak Post Number: 38 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 10:05 pm:        Here is our palomino daughter of Mr. Melody Jac, Melody, this is her first baby and she is 344 today. She is bred to our palomino stallion, SPC Cut N Oak. She barely even has a bag yet. [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/tansybrassfield/Melody344dayskoysbabyatho me002.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/tansybrassfield/Melody344dayskoysbabyatho me003.jpg[/IMG]   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 277 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:18 pm:        She is a very pretty mare. (Very pretty background also!)   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 187 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 05:39 am:        Tansy- Ditto for me!   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 274 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 08:44 am:        Thelwell ponies Raven - Yeah, I know 'em. I have a thelwell mug for my coffee at work!! I see what you mean too - Very cute : )   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 526 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:36 am:        WELL STILL NO FOAL, BUT BIGGER UDDER AND BELLY... SEE PICS FROM THIS AM 342 DAYS! [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6306.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6305.jpg[/IMG]   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 281 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:52 am:        Kris - this was a side view of Dream 7 hours before foaling when she started flying through her changes. She never got the really pointy V look although I knew her shape was different. She is(was) a maiden and in good muscular condition pre pregnancy. I guess that helped her stay tight. http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/?action=view&current=339daysside view.jpg   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 392 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:29 am:        Kris- still no foal for Avery either.. she's not a happy camper these days though, and neither am I at this point. Peppy foaled at 2 this morning, a huge horse colt, so were' 6-0 on the colt/filly count. He looks rather silvery like he could be a roan, but his base color is bay just like his momma. He's HUGE. At birth he's taller and longer bodied than Cisco is now at a month. I'll get pictures tonight, I was too tired to fool with it after he was born. We have 3 other mares looking like they are getting close now so the "barn watch" will continue. Sadly some friends of ours lost their foal on Saturday night, she was a maiden mare bred to our roan stud (who apparently is producing mammoth size colts) they didn't realize she was going to foal and didnt check her after 9 pm. At 7 am the found her with the colt 1/2 delivered and dead. After pulling the colt it took 4 shots of oxcytocin from the vet to get her to deliver the placenta. They have her on antibiotics now and she's going to be fine, but it was sad for them to have lost such a nice colt. He was a red roan with a blaze face and two white socks   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 188 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:35 am:        Kim W thanks those were the ponies I was thinking of. Does it not remind you of them!! Kris lot more improvement still have my fingers crossed for you! Kathee in that pic she does not even look pg. Great shape she must have been in.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 527 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:50 am:        EV- CONGRATS AGAIN!!! too bad it was not avery! cant wait to see pics!!! i cannot believe you still have not gotten a filly!!! thats what avery is waiting for...MAYBE?!?!?!?! peppy beat her...shes just going to hold you in suspense!!! (as is mine!) hubby is hoping for a foal on wednesday, 04-05-o6 date, if she does he wants to name it "Tsequence", (in case you had not noticed Tsaharah's blood lines names have a T in the beginning but sound like S) for the sequential date!! i thought that would be cool, so that is what we a re hoping for! well when i went out to check her i checked her udder tried "milking", did not need to work as hard, it is now squirting when i check it, so it defineately has internal pressure! still yellow clear and watery, but VERY sticky! one of these days!!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 394 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:08 am:        Kris- I didn't look at your last photo, has her udder continued to increase in size?   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 282 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:16 am:        Kris - past the milk stage...yeah! She must be a very thorough horse taking all this time...she must be cooking up perfection!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 283 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:22 am:        Ev - congrats on Peppy's boy! What is considered huge? My girl looks large to me, but I really don't know how to judge. I'm sorry about your friend's foal. When you say he was half delivered, did they just find him during the delivery or she was unable to deliver and they didn't know how long she had been like that? Was the sack broken or unbroken? I hope you are OK with these questions - I am just trying to learn what can go wrong and why.   Marie Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:28 am:        Well MS Classy is still hodling out on us. Not sure what she is holding out for, we have had all kinds of weather changes and nothing seems to make a diff with her. This morning checking her milk she is also at the yellow very sticky barely touch her teat and it squirts out stage. She already went through the pointed belly stage and it is now gone as well as last week her udder and teats did the very shiney black almost could have used it as a mirror stage. I have no idea what to expect from her anymore. Congrats to all with new babies & Good Foaling Vibes to all who are still waiting. Hope averyone has a wonderful Monday. Marie Here is a link to her pics from this morning, the first 9 pics. http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 285 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:34 am:        Marie - she can't hold out much longer looking like that...make sure that watch kitty doesn't take his eyes off her!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 528 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:38 am:        Ev- oh yeah a lot bigger! yesterday to today not a ton, but friday to today a huge diff! but it is hard,and rounder looking, the dimple between her bag and teat is fuller,not so indented, so i know we are closer!!!! (this am anyway, we will see what afternoon looks like after being out all day) looking out at her i would say yeah hse is defineately pointy! she has a leaner look in general, but her belly is kind of angled back towards her hinds with a bit of a peak at the lowest point. not as extreme as some pics ive seen (like maries), but she is pointier than she was yesteday!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 287 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:57 am:        Kris - that is how Dream was...not so much pointy, but kind of a strong angle from the middle to her flanks - like the stomach of a greyhound dog or other racing dog.   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 397 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 12:08 pm:        Kathee- he's huge as in he's bigger than my colt that is a month old ! I'll get some pictures of him soon, I was just too tired to do it last night/this am. The colt that died aparently died from being constricted in delivery. His head/shoulders were out, his midsection and hind quarters were still inside of her. the sac was broken, so he didn't suffocate from that as far as we know. The mare was checked at 9 pm and not again till 7 am, he was not stiff, but was cold so he must have been dead a little while. From the size of this other colt, my guess is it took all she had to get his head and shoulders delivered (and maybe THAT took too long and he did suffocate) and by the time she got those out, she was just too tired to continue pushing out the hips. She is a 4 y/o maiden mare (and a little on the lazy side like Avery is). Even Peppy which is an old pro had to work to deliver her colt last night. My hubby pulled to help her, I don't know how she'd have done on her own. She had trouble standing afterwards, but appears to be fine now.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 530 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 01:44 pm:        OH BOY DEFINATE CHANGE NOW! sheis really dropped now, it will be interesting to check her udder and put her in to have a looka t her, (as soon as i get all the lil darlins(daycare kids) to bed...15-20 minutes. shes just standing, ears layed back, tail is swishing, switching hind legs quite often..hmmm maybe she will do something tonight...if any changes ill post after i get her put away and tucked in for the day! wish me/ her luck!!! that tonight could be the night!!! or day!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 290 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 01:54 pm:        ((((((healthy foal vibes)))))) - sounds like you can feel it in your gut! You know her better than anyone!   melissa Breeding Stock Username: Mbgirl Post Number: 172 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 02:11 pm:        Kris Moos, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR MARE FOALING TONIGHT. How many days is she? I noticed you watch children as well. How long have you been watching children in your home? We closed in our garage, I watch the children it that room. I have a waiting list for childcare. I can't believe how many people want inhome daycare. My church refs me as well.My little children are napping as this time. What time is it where you, it is 1:12pm here in Mississippi.I decide to watch children in my home, so I would be home when my children get out of school. My oldest is 16 yrs old(Son)Nicholas, Justin 14 yrs,daughter(Ashley)11 yrs, neice(who lives with us(Skylar) 8yrs old. We have a house full of children and animals. TAKE CARE, MELISSA   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 398 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 02:43 pm:        Kris- it certainly sounds promising! Keep us posted! I'm itching to get home and check on my girl myself. Unfortunately, I have to meet hubby at the vets to get Sage sonogrammed to see where she is in her cycle. ( going to breed her back to Cisco's father this week ) We'll get one shot at this, if she doesn't catch on this cycle, her boyfriend will likely be in another country and TOO far for a repeat date.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 531 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 03:50 pm:        oh boy ev, hopefully she is close in her cylce and her "date" goes real well!!!! cant wait to see if avery had hers! and pics tomarrow...right?!?!?! Melissa- she is 342 days. I have been doing in home for 4 years, and i worked at a center for 5 years before that, and for 4 years before that i watched my 2 neices and nephew, so ive been doing this quite a while. I live in Minnesota, not sure if it is same time zone or not, (i think it is) well Tsaharah is eating her afternoon dinner, a little slow, but shes eating...I am curretnly loading her afternoon pics so you guys can tellme if YOU think shes changed since this am, or if im seeing things!!! (wishful due to impatience!) her udder has come down after being turned out all day, but im not too concerned, after seeing her pointy belly, i am sure that she is at least progressing forward, and that at least i know she has something in her udder now!!!!(unlike 2 weeks ago when it was nothing still!!) thank you kathee! i feel it is close, not sure about tonight, but close!!! ill defineately be watching her VERY closely now!!!!!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 532 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 04:04 pm:        O.K. IS THIS THE "V" THAT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT OR WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?! [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6333.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6333.jpg[/IMG] here is 3 days ago [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6230.jpg[/IMG]   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 189 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 04:56 pm:        Kris It looks like even a bit of a change from this morning. Fuller in the flank area. I could not see the V shape to Lady until I look back now at her pictures. I would think that is probably her V shape. Hope it is for your sanity sake!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 293 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 04:57 pm:        I would say: V is to Validate that she is Very close to Victory! That's a V!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 533 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 05:00 pm:        ok well now it is going to be fun!!!! will update any changes... "stay tuned"   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 190 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 05:24 pm:        Kathee you are WAY TOO MUCH !! Kris ?????maybe a sleepless night or two......   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 191 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 05:30 pm:        Ev- Congratulations on Peppys foal. Can't wait to see some pics! Just think someday Avery will decide to give you your foal! Hopefully not the last one born! I think by then you will have had the vacumm out and chasing her around the arena!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 154 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 06:54 pm:        Hi, I have had a hard time keeping up with everyones post sorry if I have not said congrats to any with new foals. But if you have a new foal contragts and I hope everything went well. Anyhow here is an update on my mare, she is at 318 days and yesterday I finally noticed a change her her belly here are some pictures taken today, and then some pictures taken about a week ago: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/dallas%20day%20318%20side%202.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/dallas%20day%20318%20udder%202.jpg And here is some taken at 311 days BIG change: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dalls%20day%20311.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Picture%20098.jpg Anyhow what do you all think, are we getting close?   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 295 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 07:46 pm:        Ooooooo! Kris and Tsaharah may have some competition tonight. Big difference in the stomach and udder look full. Does she have milk yet?   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 192 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 08:20 pm:        OOOOOh is right Kassie, Big change in udder and stomach in only a week!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:02 pm:        Kris - how about an update!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 535 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:16 pm:        well she is irritated, her flanks are bulging, belly hanging, i checked her "milk" still clear watery yellow, but sprays, dimple gone on one teat, almost on other. she is biting the gate,the plywood and tried me! (did not want to be brushed), only munches a few bites of hay then stands there. watching her closely! area between poop hole and vulva a bit pushed out, rather flush back there. otherwise...still waiting!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 299 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:21 pm:        I can still feel the excitment and doubting from the other night. Is she or isn't she...don't want to get too excited but, everything looks like it is heading that way...I am so hoping she will have this for you tonight!! Do you have a cam or are you walking to her?   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 300 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:28 pm:        One other thing that shocked me, but I have since found out is common. I expected one hoof and the other about 6 or 7 inches behind based on all the reading I have done. After my girl gave me about 12 inches of only one leg, I felt inside to make sure there was another hoof. Happily there was but it was much closer to the head than I expected. I asked my breeder about this and she said it happens frequently and is still considered a "normal" delivery. The second hoof was in front of the head, but just barely. Also, when they deliver this way, you tend to get a lot of loose bag with the first hoof and you can see the fluid inside. I expected the bag to be kind of strecthed over the hoof. That is most likely why the bag did not tear. Anyway, it's just different from what I had read and scared me a little.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 537 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:29 pm:        she is rigth outside my bedroom window, i am not disturbing her! i have a light in the barn and an open door that my window looks directly into, so i dont even need to get out of bed to watcha nd check on her. she has only one spot in the barn where i cannot see her, i have no straw there so i am hoping she does not lay there, anywhere else i can see her! and i have a baby monitor on tonight for sound! i know i am excited and i feel she is not herself, but she could hang like this for days! (BETTER NOT!!!!) she is not showing the same signs she did the night she foaled the last two, but then a lot has been different this time! (previosly she was almost fully bagged 3 weeks prior, not this time, unless she holds out another week and a half!!) i just dont want to be too excited and be disappointed!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 156 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:48 pm:        Nope still not milk. Just a honey color fluid. But her udder is still firm and it is warm. I have seen some relaxing at the back end but not a whole lot. She is more grumpy today, and would not stand for me to mess with her, she kept walking away (not like her at all). But so far thats it.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 301 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:17 pm:        Kris - I am really, really hoping for this toight...it sounds like you are already mentally syked for the event. I can't imagine going up and down for several days. Dream was so kind to me in that respect. It sounds like she is really off her norm and you know her best. Good luck. I will check in perodically!   Heather Kutyba Breeding Stock Username: Heatherck11 Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:28 pm:        Marie, For crying out loud, that mare is screaming "THERE SHE BLOWS!!!" She's massive, and I'm betting (I'm a betting woman these days apparently) she has that baby in 24 hours. Get pics!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 538 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 06:35 am:        well being off the norm was not good ehough...STILL no baby!!!!I am at a loss now! waiting for the sun to come up to check her out! she is out there quietly eating hay...BRAT!! last night she walked and walked, thought maybe she was starting, then she munched a while, stood in the corner, layed down for 20 minutes, gort up pawed the ground with both feet, walked to her hay, took a couple bites, stood there, kicked her belly, the whole time swinging her head side to side as if to threaten somone, then nothing! so i went ot bed, got up every 1 2 hours and checked on her...eating peacefully...GRRRR and this morning layed down for a quick nap, now up eating hay a again...so i guess she is holding out to have it on my daughteres birthday...04/05/06 and will be given the name "TSequence" (notice the date?)also it is supposed to be stormy again, Wednesday and Thursday...thats in the "foaling rules"...right? well if any changes upon inspection i will let you know!!!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 302 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 08:04 am:        Wow...She doing this on purpose! She sounds like she gets full blown into it and then changes her mind. Maybe she wants to be Tsequence!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 540 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 10:25 am:        when i checked on her this am...nothing...no changes at all! hungry as usual! and as crabby as ever!!! were at 343 now!!!UGH! i know thats not too long, but shes been ready forever!!! seei have to be gone this evening from 5:30 to 9:30, im guessing she ll so something then!!!! and ill be mad! MAYBE JUST MAYBE shell do something different today! shes out grazing on nubs right now, so we will see if her udder changes! so IF there is anything to report ill let you know!!!! otherwise...later or in the morning!!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 400 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:11 am:        Kris- Avery went 341 from her last cover, had some trouble which I posted on the April 1st race link. Hopefully, she's going to be ok..it would stink to loose my mare for a bay colt.. REALLY stink!   Marie Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 11:12 am:        Well Classy is still holding out. Yesterday afternnoon she had drippins on her legs, her butt looks like is just going to fall off, last night she actually stood around more than she ate, which for her is a rarity, was a little on the restless side, laid down once, but that was it. This morning we have wax on one teat, she is out in her pasture for the day. This mare has shown every sign possible except water breaking or 2 hooves and a nose showing. I have a friend who has said she was going to bring over some "Do Not Open Till Christmas" stickers to put on Classy's butt, I think she may just have a great idea. EV, Congrats on the new baby Kris, Is she related to Classy? Heather, We been saying "Thar she blows" For awhile now. To anyone and everyone else, HFV and hope you all have a great day. Here are the latest in Classy's daily stills. http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/ Marie   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 542 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:03 pm:        Marie- apparently so! however mine has not waxed, or leaked, but it sprays if you check it. but all else is pretty much a go! yours cannot go MUCH longer!!! WOW!!! how far is she?   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 402 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:21 pm:        Marie- thanks, I'm still disappointed it was a colt, but, that's the way it goes.. he's a pretty one and he'll make someone a nice gelding! (any interested parties, just let me know!) Your mare looks pretty close, surely you won't have much longer to wait. Kris- what color is her milk? I noticed Sassy's changed from looking bluish like skim milk to very white right before she foaled last week. I think Beth will be next to foal, (could be wrong though) she's miserable and 320 days today. Frosty is 324 now but Sophie is acting like she's not far off eiter. ( she foaled at 311 last year and she's 306 now )   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 544 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 01:59 pm:        Ev- it is a yellow clear VERy sticky fluid, but semi watery! with her past two pregnancys the day it went from that(maybe a bit thicker) to white marbled in is the night she foaled, i would like to rely on that and say shes not going to foal for a while, but about the time i do that... she will!!! she has been totally different this pregnancy, so i guess i do not know what to expect...part of me feels she is REAL close, but then part feels she may go another week!or more! (MAN I HOPE NOT!!) she is not herself, but not totally acting ready to foal except for an hour or two at a time. we will see, ill be checking on her and putting her in for the day in about 30 minutes...hopefully some changes, but looking out at her she is awefully content!! (GRRRRR!!!)   Fred H. Moyer Nursing Foal Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 04:40 pm:        Here is my pregnant Qtr Horse mare, she is due to foal a mule baby May 24th. Side shot of Bri looking at camera http://i2.tinypic.com/szd9bo.jpg Bri eating http://i2.tinypic.com/szd9u0.jpg   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 318 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 04:44 pm:        Fred I couldnt see the pics could you repost them please.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 545 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 04:57 pm:        KATHEE- well I am convinved she will go much longer than origionally thought...(was thinking early this seek), today it is 52 degrees so i finally went out and washed her vulva, and between her udder(YUCK!!!) and by time i got done it was half the size as when i started! it shrank up! i was so dissappointed!!! i would think being handled with warm rag would let more fluid down and it would be bigger...but NNOOOOOOOO!!!!! I am at a loss! I think shellmake me suffer another week or two....SERIOUSLY!!!   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 319 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 04:58 pm:        http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/morganslil1/reba4-4-06003.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/morganslil1/reba4-4-06004.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/morganslil1/reba4-4-06008.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/morganslil1/reba4-4-06012.jpg Reba is at 355 days she is a maiden ....how much longer????   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 195 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 06:11 pm:        Fred- gorgeous mare!!! I just love the roans! Kris- seriously WHAT DID YOU DO TO T to piss her off!!!!   Fred H. Moyer Nursing Foal Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 07:21 pm:        Deena, try again, I think Tiny Pic was having issues earlier. Seems to be working now. Thanks Lori she's a real nice mare!!   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 321 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 07:25 pm:        What a doll I love your mare. Awsome color.Would it be possible for your little mule to take its moms color?Bet your hopeing for a mollie huh?   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 68 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 08:38 pm:        Hey Everyone, I was looking at my mares vulva today and i could see the reddish/pinkish color from outside and so I opened it and she squeeled and jumped....hmmm... dont know why. maybe my hands are cold or she didn't want me looking in there. it is a darker pink. she has wax beads on her nipples. Thinks shes close? Elena P.S. She's a maiden, 330 days.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 307 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 10:24 pm:        Fred - how pretty! Is she an Appaloosa Bay?   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 406 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 11:18 am:        Kathee- that's a bay roan that Fred has, I have one too, except mine is a 2 y/o with a blaze face and two white socks. I love roans.. Kris- you might have started out with a warm rag, but that probably turned pretty chilly pretty quickly in 52 degree weather. (rather like when you step out of the shower and the bathroom isn't exactly warm) Don't fret, T won't keep you waiting TOO much longer.   Fred H. Moyer Nursing Foal Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:12 pm:        She a registered red roan Qtr Horse. Daddy is a red roan Mammoth Jack, so you folks tell me what color am I going to get   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 324 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:19 pm:        Oh my fred sound like its gonna be a pretty baby.....bet your excited..   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 409 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 01:21 pm:        Fred- you're going to get a roan, either a bay roan like the momma or a red roan.. I have a friend who is just dying to breed my grulla mare to her donkey.. no way Jose' I just cannot do it..lol.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 314 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 01:35 pm:        Fred or Ev - is that the final color? Will she keep her black points? I don't know much about the roan's except it takes a while to acheive the final color. She is a pretty one. Is that a fairly common roan combination? I probably thought I have been looking at some kind of App all this time.   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 411 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 01:53 pm:        Kathee- there are a lot of bay roans that are registered in AQHA as red roans or blue roans. Often as they age, roans tend to have less white in their coat. Mine, for now looks frosted, she's nearly all white with a bay colored head, black legs, mane and tail.   Fred H. Moyer Nursing Foal Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 03:29 pm:        Any thoughts on how she is carrying the baby as to what she is going to have I am hoping for a molly which is what she and this Jack had last year. She is at the 291 day! Yes very excited!!   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 327 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 03:42 pm:        Im gonna guess Molly hope im right...   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 200 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:03 pm:        Ev- I am so sorry for your mishap with Houston and Avery. It is a shame since this is the one you were counting on . If you do not mind me asking...Is this condition that Houston has genetic? With Avery being a maiden will it make you think twice about breeding her again? Has this type of thing ever happen before to that studs foals? Could this be why she was holding on so long to the foal? My condolences to you and Avery.   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 201 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:13 pm:        Fred- Can I ask without being ignorant... Why would you breed a beautiful mare like that too a mule??? Sorry it is just I would die to have a roan horse like yours. All time dream is a blue, red, or strawberry roan!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 157 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:18 pm:        Ev - I can not find a post of what happened to your mare? I just read the post from Lori saying, and I have no idea what happened.   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 202 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:20 pm:        Sorry I put it on the wrong thread it should be under General mare questions Horse race to April 1st.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 556 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:24 pm:        ok heres pics from today (excuse the titles on the pics they are wrong)...anyone have anything to say about them or any guesses as to when she will foal?!?!?! side view [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/f805f66b.jpg[/IMG] vulva-[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/f805f66b.jpg[/IMG] udder [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6407.jpg[/IMG]   Deena Breeding Stock Username: Morganslil1 Post Number: 328 Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 05:52 pm:        Raven Freds mare is bred to a Jack the offspring will be a mule.Mules are smarter than horses and a whole lot tougher and very versatile.I love mules but I didnt always (a mule changed my mind).Deena   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 158 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 07:10 pm:        Okay here is an update on Dallas, Her udder is still VERY large, and I am still getting a honey colored fluid out. Her vulva is very relaxed. And today I noticed a change in her behavior. She was at the back of the coral (where non of the horses ever go) and she was just walking around back there, one of my other mares was just fallowing her around because she was so interested in this funny purple thing in place of the tail (aka tail wrap lol). But Dallas kept laying her ears back and trying to get away from this mare. I could tell she was very upset at this mare fallowing her. The other thing is Dallas normally has what looks like salt speckles on her nipples and they are gone for the first time today. She is at day 320, the previous owner told me she usually foals a week from her due day. Her estimated due day based on 340 days would be April 20. So what do you all think? Should I be expecting any changes soon?   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 204 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 07:20 pm:        Kassie any waxing appearing on the teats or just fluid expressed out? They will usually keep to them self when it is close to birth. Ask the previous owner did she go by 320 days or the 340 days as a due date? I think those salt specks usually disappear about a week before maybe sooner. The other more pros on her can correct me if I am wrong.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 159 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 08:11 pm:        No, no waxing, but the previous owner said she never did wax. and she went by 340 days for the due date. But her previous owner said she did not show any signs at all and was very hard to pin down when she would foal. Anyhow so I am kind of at a loss. I am watching her very close, and watch her for about an hour a or two a day for any sings of attitude changes or behavioral, or physical changes. Here is hoping it will be soon.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 318 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 08:38 pm:        Kris- I give up with any input for her... she is intentionally holding out and that is not fair to humans in the prediction game! I am going to say she is really not pregnant and she will just have to prove me wrong! Maybe that will motivate her!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 557 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 08:56 pm:        thanks kathee! thats what i was thinking to do till i went out and baby was flopping all over, her belly looked like she had the hiccups! ok so she has a twitching tumor...she will have to prove me wrong!!! vulva long tonight, udder firm, she feels clammy. but heating like crazy. im still thinking not tonight! but SOON! (oh wait ive said that already!)   Marie Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:10 am:        This is Classy's people Marie reporting live from Seldom Hill Ranch in Western Kansas. Classy has decided to stoop to an all time low of deceptive fake outs. Starting last night at appx 10:30 PM CT she thought she might try new and much believed I might add "I am going into labor" tactics. She thought it might be time to start the infamous "Butt Rubbing/Butt Pushing" routines. Not once, not twice mind you but almost every hour on the hour until 4:00 AM CT this morning. She was extremely good at this performance, I would say, Oscar worthy actually. She attempted to take out a dividing wall in her barn as well as take the sheet metal completely off the south wall of the barn by pushing and rubbing so hard. To increase the "I am going into labor" act she included in her performance, wringing her tail at warp speed, doing the Irish Jig with her hind feet, oh and let's not forget the belly kicking with alternate hind feet, the occasional pawing with her front feet, belly biting and stall circling. Yes, I as her people was extremely proud of her performance last night. I am seriously considering sending video stills to the Academy of the Motion Picture Industry for inclusion in the short film catergory. She totally had this person convinced so you can guess who got next to no sleep last night. This morning of course she acts as if nothing unusual or out of the norm occured last night. She did make sure and remind me though how she is really sick to death of the twice daily photo sessions, so because of this we have a min. amount of pics for you and not of the best quality. http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/ Congrats to all with new foals and Happy Foaling Vibes to all who are still waiting, patiently or impatiently. Marie   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 414 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:20 am:        Kris- I'd say her tummy is V shaped but that udder isn't as full as I'd expect to see for an experienced mare.. you could have a couple of days to wait yet.. don't you just LOVE trying to outguess these mares? We didn't have any new ones last night which was just as well, I was beat. We're watching 3 at the moment, two maidens and Sophie (this is her 2nd). I have no errands tonight, just housework so MAYBE I'll be up to getting some pictures of Kong as you've not seen him yet. He's huge.. just huge..   Fred H. Moyer Nursing Foal Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:58 am:        Hi Lori In the old days folks used cranky run down old mares and any old jack they could find to produce mules (which are sterile and can't breed) and they produced, as you might expect, cranky run down mules. Fortunantely mules are now produced using the best mares and good natured jacks and are producing outstanding mules. IMO mules are quite a bit smarter than a horse. Up in the mountains they are 4WD compared to a horse and you are much less likely to get hurt on a mule. They are a hybrid so they train differently. Of course these are only my opinions and not meant to offend anyone. I love a good horse, you need one to produce a good mule. Also I can breed her back to a stallion if I wanted to, but for some reason the ears come out way to short, so I wouldn't do that!   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 12:02 pm:        Fred- LOL, you are too funny. I know there are some first class mule lovers out there and though I'm a QH person myself, I've seen a few mules that I actually thought were pretty and I'm sure they came from pretty mares. Having ridden a mule in my younger years, I can vouch for their sure footedness as well but I just cannot get past that aweful noise they make Be sure to post photos of your baby when it arrives, I'm anxious to see it and I hope it's a really nice looking animal! Ev   Fred H. Moyer Nursing Foal Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 12:03 pm:        I forgot to add, most mules live well into their 30s due to the hybrid vigor and can carry more than the average horse of the same size. Smaller feet, personality more like a dog. Oh and Lori here is a photo of my 2 year old future mule mamma, what do you think of her? http://i2.tinypic.com/szd744.jpg http://i2.tinypic.com/szd8yg.jpg   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 160 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 12:20 pm:        Fred I love mules. I saw some draft mules the other day and they where Beautiful. I actually thought about breeding my mare to a jack for a mule baby. They are really pretty I think. I love the ears . I can't wait to see pictures of your mule baby. I bet it will be adorable. Marie - I know how you feel. my mare last year did that exact thing and I was up all night waiting for NOTHING. Then one week later she foaled . Have any of you seen those commercials with the EASY buttong?? Well Mares need an easy button. . Anyhow my mare has not eatten at all so far today. We let her out of the barn, she walked over to the hay turned her butt to it and stood, she has been in the same place for amost 4 hours now. I guess we will see what her foaling acting is like lol.   anita kabat Weanling Username: Akabat Post Number: 24 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 12:37 pm:        anyone want to give me a idea when they think this mare may foal? [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/cf18d900.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0186.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0187.jpg[/IMG]these 1st Three were taken about a week ago. These were taken today [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0191.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0189.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0188.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0195.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/akabat101/100_0192.jpg[/IMG]   Marie Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 12:47 pm:        WOW Anita, She sure looks like she could go at anytime, her vulva looks like it is gaping and her udder and teats look ready to me. But then the way these mares have been going this year who knows. Happy Foaling Vibes to ya. Marie   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 222 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 01:34 pm:        Marie, things are looking good. I think she looks like she is carrying a colt to me, she is a very pretty mare and I think she could go anytime from now to about 3 or 4 days. I hope you do not lose too much sleep. I am sure it will be worth the wait! She is a pretty mare. Anita looks like she may just foal tonight or tomorrow. looks like a filly too! She should produce a nice foal for you. Good luck everyone!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 325 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 01:51 pm:        Marie - I hope she doesn't go for the full length feature film tonight! Anita - she looks close to me, but Tsarhara has proven that my opinion means nothing. Jan - How is you little one doing? Have you decided whether you are breeding your girls again?   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 561 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 02:19 pm:        sorry kathee did not mean to make you doubt yourself! she is just being a poop! 345 days now! and im pretty sure with her last was 343 so she cant be too far off! i will be going out in aobut 15 minutes to feed, clean up, turn her out for a few hours, and do the afternoon inspection. will let you know if anything is exciting!   anita kabat Weanling Username: Akabat Post Number: 29 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 05:46 pm:        Thanks you all i really appreciate your input. }   Fred H. Moyer Weanling Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 06:07 pm:        Here is a pic of my mule baby's Daddy, doesn't he have just awesome looking ears http://i1.tinypic.com/s3gim1.jpg (Message edited by fmoyer on April 06, 2006)   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 161 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 06:30 pm:        Wow fred he is awsome. LOVE those ears. I can't wait to see your baby mule. I bet it will be adorable. Do you plan on keeping it?   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 329 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 06:47 pm:        Fred - the only thing I know about mules is from the few I see go through the auction every now and then. He doesn't look like anything I have seen before. He looks really big and so sturdy. His color is great and man those ears!!! Do mules have super sonic hearing or what purpose do the large ears play? Do mules serve a practical role where you live, if so, what are they used for? I can't wait to see that baby.   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 211 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 09:54 pm:        Fred- well I would say for your future mule momma when she matures IMO she will be a good looking mare. Nice coloring, different, do you class her as a paint or what? Very heavy structure more the foundation qh type. If you breed her to the Jack that you have shown us I think you would get nice coloring and good solid structure. Oh I forgot those LONG EARS! I'm not familiar with Jacks but he is not bad looking. Now would you class him as a donkey or ???? (what)? By the looks of your area I can see why you like the mules if you do alot of trail riding in the mountains. Beautiful scenery behind him. It will be very interesting to see your foal can't wait!   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 69 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 10:50 pm:        hey everyone, i think my mare is close! yesterday i got clear milk out. Her udder is getting bigger everyday! She is anxious/ has a lot of energy and was even trotting and bucking around. Her vulva is very relaxed and is a dark pink/almost red. She doesn't like it when I look in it either. Her croup is relaxed. She's dropped. Her offical due date is APril 14-16. But she's a maiden so I am hoping this up coming week when i am on spring break. Soon I'll be posting pictures hopefully! Elena   anita kabat Weanling Username: Akabat Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:50 pm:        keep us updated i sure hope one of us gets a foal soon   Darlene Folkersma Neonate Username: Edanddar Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 05:13 am:        Hi everyone, I'm new but I have enjoyed reading this last month's comments about foaling. I was wondering if it would be ok to join in? We are just a small breeding operation now, we do allow boarding here, but keep it small for health reason. I have a mare due to foal in about a month. I could send pics. if anyone wanted to see how really huge a wide load can get.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 566 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 07:00 am:        post away! darlene.   anita kabat Weanling Username: Akabat Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 09:14 am:        Welcome Darlene   Marie Neonate Username: Lilbitkansas Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 11:26 am:        Welcome Darlene! Would love to see pics also. Nothing new here on the Classy front, except the usual acting job, torment tactics etc. Kathleen, She tried for the full lenght feature film but I didn't fall for it. Jan, I've been saying I think it is a colt to cause this pregnancy is nothing like her last one and it was a filly. My guestimate on Classy due date is April 11th. The vet though it was going to be around the end of March, hehehe boy did she prove him wrong or what. Anita, How is your mare today? Kris anything new in your neck of the woods? Fred, Cool looking Jack, that is going to be one pretty baby for sure. Kassie, How is it going for you? Elena, Looking forward to your pics. Sending Happy Foaling Vibes out to all. Here is the link for Classy's Daily Stills, this morning and yesterday evenings would be the first 16. http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/lilbitkansas/Classy%20Pregnancy%20pics/ Everyone have a Great Day!!!   Fred H. Moyer Weanling Username: Fmoyer Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 03:36 pm:        Kassie-- Probably escpecially if it's a molly! Kathee-- Yes mules make great riding, driving and packing prospects, pretty much in any part of the country. But they really excell in the Rocky Mountains. They are extremely sure footed and have a very strong sense of self preservation. Mules eat half as much as a horse, drink less water, pound for pound can carry more weight. They get their size from momma and their smarts and self preservation instincts from the donkey side of the family. They have quite a bit more personality than a horse, but that also requires they be handled and trained quite a bit different than a horse. They cannot be forced to do anything. Lots of mule, but certainly not all of them, abhor arena work because after a few times around they are thinking "what is the purpose of this?" Mules that are trained and then turned out do not need refresher training. Lots of old wives tales about mules, stubborn, very kicky, mean. Most of it coming from the old days when they did not breed good mules and tried to train them like a horse. Lori-Yes he is a donkey and probably one of the nicest Jacks I've seen. Bailey, my future mule mamma is a PMU baby from Canada and is some sort of a draft cross. I think she has a little Clydesdale in her but I'm not sure. She has the sweetest disposition and very laid back. Donkeys Jennet or Jenny--female donkey Jack--Intact male donkey Mules--Mare and a Jack offspring John--gelded male mule Molly--female mule Hinney--Stallion and a Jennet offspring (rare, but not blue moon rare) Molly mule having a colt--Blue moon rare, but has happened a few times in the past several hundred years.   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 332 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 05:38 pm:        Nicely done, Fred! I feel so informed! Thanks!   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 213 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 09:12 pm:        Fred- Ditto to what Kathee said! You will have a good sturdy foal from Bailey and a Jack then if she happens to have some draft in her. I can't hardly wait to see what your foal looks like! Thanks again   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:21 am:        Anyone have a foal yet? I haven't (((Happy/healthy foal vibes to all)) P.S. Fred I can't wait to see the foal! ELena   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 10:39 pm:        Hi Everyone! Some news...Aspen starting dripping milk today when she was walking. I only saw it once but the milk stayed on her udder! i wrapped her tail and put straw down for her. A friend of the family, who's foaled 600 mares, said probably tomorrow or the next day! I am so excited. Wish me luck. I have some pictures I will try to put on tomorrow or today! Elena   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 225 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 11:27 pm:        Good luck Elena, hopefully when we read your next post it is to announce the arrival of your long awaited foal!!!!! Fingers are crossed and breath is baited...umm scratch baited breath its not really baited it just smells like it is.... giggle....not really I brushed! GOOD LUCK!!!!   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:53 am:        NOTHING! Grr! She's been waxing for 2 days today. She was dripping Sunday. I don't know if she's dripping now because I haven't been watching her 24/7 but she does have large drops of milk on her nipples. I think she's close!??!!? Tell me what ya'll think! Elena   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 229 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:56 pm:        Elena when you think no way they are ever going to foal and just when you think I know she is gonna wait so I think I will catch a few winks, you wake up to a foal dry and nursing on momma...so are you at that point yet? giggle. It will not be much longer now! Hang in there!   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 75 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 07:55 am:        hi all I haven't posted in a while but I have been reading. My computer had a virus so I wouldn't send anything out. Well Rosie is at day 340 today and as of last night is not showing signs of going any time soon. I came home thinking I would see some thicker fluid or dare I say it---wax, since her bag has been huge for days. I walked right up to her gave her a pat and an apple and while she was munching away, I reached underneath. As I was expecting a fight to get a good grip on that huge hard nipple for a little expression, I was at a loss. There was almost no bag at all. So I looked and sure enough no bag. I was shocked, dismayed, completely crestfallen. My ever diligent husband says, " I do believe her bag is smaller." Can you believe it? But to his credit he did say she did that last year then she foaled a few days after. So who knows.....I guess Rosie and I get to join you other 340+'ers. Will let you know what I find this morning and tonight. no pics though it would just be tooo embrassing.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 609 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 06:36 am:        OH WINDY...DOESNT THAT SUCK?!?!?!? I feel for you..happened here too, were at 352 now and still waiting!   windy fillmore Yearling Username: Windyf Post Number: 76 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:13 am:        Yes Mam it does. She did have her first bloody show yesterday. But my friend that foals out a lot each year said that usually happens about 2 weeks before. I really hope Rosie didn't read that BOOK either as she certainly hasn't read any of the others. Maybe you and I should do some kind of foal dance or something....hey if I did it in front of Rosie she'd foal from laughing so hard.....this girl can't dance. This just maybe the ticket.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 616 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:33 am:        hey sounds good to me...i cant dance either...and my singing is worse...so ill sing and dance....LOL   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 380 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:35 pm:        Desperate times call for desperate measures...   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:26 pm:        Nothing...still! She's been waxing for four days! Her actually due date is fri/sun depending on what foal calculator I use. She's a little grumpy, tail swishing a lot. She's getting veins in her chest and butt...dont know why? I can't stand it. I am waking up every 2 hours to check on her. I know, like you said Jan, the one night I decide not to check she'll have the foal. Well wish me luck everyone. Today/tonight would be perfect because its sunny.But who knows! GOod luck with everyong. ((((Good foaling vibes))) Elena   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 163 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:48 pm:        Hey, just thought I would post an update on my mare. she is day 328 and her muscles around her tail head are very very relaxed and sunken in. Her udders are getting larger. yesterday she stood at the back of the paddock and kept biting her belly on the right side. She kept shifting her weight back and forth and was acting uncomftorable. I put her in the chute today and gave her a bath and took some pictures. Here are the new pics: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas328days%20002.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas328days%20004.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas328days%20006.jpg http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas328days%20013.jpg Anyhow I know I am not as far along as a lot of you, but man I sure hope she does not want to wait it out another month. Signs all point to soon. I feel for all of you who are still waiting past 340 days   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 248 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 04:23 pm:        Kassie- very nice place and set up. Looks like you should be getting closer to foaling than some. Good luck!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 625 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 04:28 pm:        man your mare looks ready!!! id prepare if i were you!!!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 164 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 04:35 pm:        Thanks Lori. We have been trying to set this place up for almost 4 years. It is comming along nicely. We still plan on putting up a horse walker and some pens for our two studs so we can bring them home. We also neek another foaling barn, since we should be having 6 foals next year and two are due at the same time . Anyhow I sure hope she will foal soon. After I gave her a bath she is soooo pretty, and shiny. It makes me want to get them all out and give them all a bath. That would take all day however. Anyhow I sure hope she does not keep me waiting a long time for this baby. I think I am going to test her milk today with the water hardness test strips. I was going to order the foal watch test, but I don't know if I would get it in time, and if I didn't it only has an 8 month shelf life so it would be wasted money. So this time around I am going to do everything the old fashioned way. Watch for signs, and check her twice a day. And get up every hour to every two hours for the next 1-5 weeks lol.   anita howard Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 03:45 pm:        Here is a pic of my mare in waiting.... http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/mofoxtrottr/gypsy.jpg   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 166 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:52 pm:        Very pretty mare Anita. love the color. When is she due?   anita howard Nursing Foal Username: Mofoxtrottr Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:43 pm:        Gypsy is 353 days, hopefully she will be due shortly. She is a bit restless tonight. Can't be still, shifting her weight, and checking her sides.   anita howard Weanling Username: Mofoxtrottr Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:49 pm:        Here is a pic of the stallion. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/mofoxtrottr/000_0546.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/mofoxtrottr/000_0538.jpg He is homozygous blk/wht TWH   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 167 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:49 pm:        Ok a change in Dallas milk. This morning I checked it and it was a kind of yellow color, this evening it is starting to change colors, it is thicker, and more of a white color than a yellow color. So is this the first sign of milk? Should I go on mare stare tonight? She has been biting her sides for the past couple of days, and acting very uncomfortable. Her udder is very large, firm and almost hot to the touch. Her nipples are pointing outwards today, and her udder almost looks like rubber and not so dry. How long after her milk changes to the opaque white should she be ready to foal? Also I got the water harness test strips and (if I did this right 1 part milk to 4 parts distilled water) she is testing at between 250 to 400. But I am not trusting that completly because I don't even know if I did it right. Any advice? I feel desperate. She is 329 days today.   anita howard Weanling Username: Mofoxtrottr Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:06 pm:        If it were me, I would be watching. I read that is a very good sign.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 168 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:50 pm:        Ok I went and took some pictures of her milk just a second ago. Here they are: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas329days%20003.jpg And this was taken yesterday: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas328days%20013.jpg So would you say that is milk?   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 259 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 05:51 am:        Kassie you should be looking at 12-24 hrs away from foaling. Good luck hope you did start your mare stare last night! Post pics as soon as you can!   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 299 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 07:54 am:        Anita - Very pretty mare, both the ones in that pictures look nice actually! Shes has a lovely rich looking coat - Good luck for foaling time : ) Kassie - Wow, she really doesnt want to hang around then huh? Shame - Im 314 days - I was looking forward to having someone to race against and share foal watch with - Mind at this rate, I might be able to beat Kris to it!! Sorry Kris - Not very funny hey.... Kassie - I hope you have a foal on the way soon for you thought (if you dont already have it infact!!) Look forward to seeing pictures soon!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 169 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:12 am:        Well I checked her every two hours last night. The first check she was swishing her tail up and down very aggressivly. She was kicking at her belly about every minute, and then biting at her side, she kept this up for almost an hour, then on my second check she was quitly sleeping and not much going on. Thrid check again back to swishing tail, kicking at belly, and biting at sides, and she added something, rubbing her nose on her front legs, and shaking her head up and down. Anyhow no foal so far though. I plan on keeping a close eye on her today and tonight. The only problem is we are going to be leaving town in the morning and won't be back until around 7 tomorrow evening. I sure hope she foals before we have to go. I am going out to do the morning check in just a few minutes. I'll keep you posted.   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 636 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:17 am:        KIM W- not real funny!!!! i think she wants to be last...i think she is working towards beating hte new records!!!! raven- Tsharahs is whiter than that for about 40 hours now...so much for that theory!   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 261 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:16 am:        Kris are you sure T is not dyslexic or reading the broodmare book in Egyptian????? She is no where near the text book delivery page on any book!   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 638 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:44 am:        no kidding, she isnt even following her own OLD rules! maybe by crossing breds she is confused?   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 263 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:20 pm:        that is a good one Kris! Maybe go out and explain the birds and the bees to her that she does have to give this foal up!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 170 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:45 pm:        Ok my gut feeling is she should have this baby this weekend. Checked her this morning her milk is like skim milk and you can no longer see through it at all. here is a run down of her changes: 1. Vulva very relaxed 2. Muscles around tail head and hip very droopy and soft 3. Udder is large, firm, almost hot to the touch and stays this way all day 4. Milk is thick and the color of skim milk 5. Last night acting uncomfortable biting at sides kicking at belly and swishing tail up and down. And other than that no other changes. Her attitude is the same. We are at 330 days. If feels so close yet so far away.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 171 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:54 pm:        oops I forgot to post the pictures of her milk I took today: http://www.yellowhouseranch.com/Dallas330days%20002.jpg   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 639 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 02:06 pm:        cool kassie ours may actually foal the same day!!! im almost positive mine will be today /tonight! she is leaking milk all over both legs now!!!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 172 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 03:12 pm:        Kris I hope your mare does foal soon. I know you have been waiting for a long time. That would be great if they both foaled tonight.   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 76 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 04:05 pm:        Nothing yet. Aspens actuall due day is tomorrow. She was dripping milk sunday, then stopped waxing about two days ago and started again today. She isn't being as nice as she usually is, usually she greets me when i go out there but now she;s just standing in her leen tube. Her croup/butt is really relaxed and her vuvla. Her udders are huge, they seem to be getting bigger everyday. She is waxing again. She has been either laying down or rolling because she's dirty. She's been somewhat hungry, eats through out the day on and off. I hope she foals soon! I am already going crazy and I am only at 339!   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 173 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 05:58 pm:        WE HAVE WAX!!!! Woohoo. I went out a few minutes ago to check on her and saw something on one of her nipples, so I checked and it was wax, but I thought well I may have just forgot to wipe her nipple off when I expressed some milk a few hours ago so I wiped it off and then sat down to do my usual hour watch, and 3min later, whats this? Wax AGAIN. So she is waxing on her own. but only one one side, is this normal, I have had them wax on both sides but not just one. Also there are milk drops on the inside of her legs on both sides. She is also acting kind of odd, she takes a few bites of food and walks off and stretches her back legs out then almost goes to sleep for about 5min then all of the sudden she will kick her back leg really high, or turn and bite at her side. I have also noticed the whites of her eyes look a little blood shot. Please tonight   E Watkins Breeding Stock Username: Evie Post Number: 433 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:10 pm:        Just a quick update, no more babies at our place yet, which is GOOD because I've not been home. Brought hubby home from the hospital yesterday, after breezing through surgery (as much as one can with a tumor removed from the brain) he had a relapse and really scared me on Friday. He's doing ok now but a little down about how weak he is and the fact that he now has some facial paralysis. We are hoping that is temporary.. six months will tell the tale. Meanwhile we wait on those stubborn fillies to deliver, I'm back to watching cameras again girls... I'll keep you posted, SURELY it cannot be too much longer..   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 392 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:13 pm:        Ev - glad to have you and hubby back! Sounds like the surgery was a success and that is a blessing!   Elena Vieira Yearling Username: Opheliaimmorttal Post Number: 78 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:19 pm:        Hey Everyone. I am sorry about your Husband E Watkins, but at least he is doing better. I really don't like Photobucket. I downloaded ten pictures and only 4 showed up! I waited for about an hour too! UHG! Well anyways, http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/Opheliaimmorttal/ You guys should go look and tell me what ya'll think! I am hoping soon! I think I saw the baby move today too..but i am not sure.   Lori aka " Raven" Breeding Stock Username: Raven Post Number: 264 Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 06:26 pm:        Kassie Ladys wax when removed would reappear 10 minutes later and she foaled the next day. So if Dallas is even closer .....Yes I would think tonight is your night for a foal!!!!!! Ev, glad to hear hubby is home now and some of the stress is out of the way. Now with any luck his paralysis will go away as well. Yo really think those mares would of had them foals without you around!! Good luck with all!! Elena looks like you are pretty close keep both eyes on her!   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 395 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:35 pm:        Well, I am signing off for the night and I expect many, many new babies in the morning!!!!   Kim Winter Breeding Stock Username: Clafairy Post Number: 305 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 09:22 am:        Well, with Kris' baby finally arrived I will be keeping a watchful eye out for all of your mares to follow suit. Kassie - SOunds like you are well on your way. I have 5/6 days to go until the 320 mark and today my mare was really friendly and she holds her tail up ALOT, she is kicking her belly and biting her sides, she has been doing all this for a while but has started to do it more and more, her udder also looks to be more filled today. Hopefully she will not hold out on me for too long when the time comes. ALthough - Its blanket weather for her tonight so I hope she keeps hold until the temperatures get up a bit higher!! I have taken some pictures but am struggling to get them onto photobucket at the moment!! Will try to put them on when I finally succeed!   Jan H Breeding Stock Username: Jan_h Post Number: 231 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 11:04 am:        ok Kassie she must have foaled already her milk looks like she is less than 72 hours away. Hope the next post we get from you says its a FILLY or Colt. Evie, Hope your husband recovers quickly from his surgery! He had been in my prayers and will continue in my prayers until he recovers fully I have faith that he will be OK!. Anita love your mare she sure looks to be carrying a filly to me. Hope it is the gender you are hoping for. Wont be too much longer but she sure does not look dropped to me, but maybe its the angle. Elena ahe sure looks close did I predict a colt for her? She sure looks like she is carrying a colt but of course that is just a guess. good luck with her.   Kassie Finley Breeding Stock Username: Jkqh Post Number: 175 Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 06:06 pm:        Jan she had a filly this morning at 11. Bad news she has not passed the placenta yet. I called the vet. anyhow I posted all the details on the third pregnant mare post.   Dottie Rutledge Neonate Username: Drutledge Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:06 pm:        Hello Everyone! I'm pretty new to all of this! I have a Percheron mare I bought in February and the old guy said she was bred, but not sure when. Here are some recent pics of her. Last night while feeding the baby was VERY active. Maggie won't let me touch her belly anymore and I couldn't possibly check her milk. She has started bagging (I think). She seems a little swollen just forward of her teets and a little bigger in her bag area. Her vulva seems different too. Longer and a little looser. I can't really notice any sagging in her tail area just because she's so big. She kicks at my hand if i even try to touch her teets. She'll go out and graze early, but by lunch time she's in the barn by herself. I saw that Diane B. had a Percheron mare due August 1st but I couldn't really compare their sizes together. She is bred to a VERY LARGE Percheron Stud and this is not her first. Can anyone give me a ballpark time frame????? I do not want to miss this at all! This will be our first out here and I've never dealt with draft horses before. http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/drutledge5150/sideviewofmaggie.jpg http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/drutledge5150/maggiesbutt.jpg http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/drutledge5150/maggie8.jpg http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/drutledge5150/maggiefromside.jpg   Kathee McGuire Breeding Stock Username: Katheekj Post Number: 536 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 07:20 pm:        Dottie - Here are some pics of Dream's udder progression. The second pic was taken 6 hours prior to foaling. Some mares don't blow up like that until after foaling and some never get that full. My girl fell more into the typical category. The swelling in front of her teats is edema and is very normal. One common tell tale sign she is within days is when her nipples point away from way other. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/Uddercomparison299to336days.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/339daysfirstmilkdrops.jpg http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/katheekj/339daysudderfromside.jpg   Kris Moos Breeding Stock Username: Kris Post Number: 810 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:29 am:        Heres a few progressin pictures of my mare as well. I know when I was waiting for Tsharah to foal I enjoyed seeing all I could for comparison! good luck![IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6203.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6328.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6450.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6466.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6479.jpg[/IMG] this is the best belly shot...misery thats all i can say![IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6571.jpg[/IMG] and the day before foaling udder [IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/krismoos/101_6579.jpg[/IMG]   Becca Nursing Foal Username: Becca Post Number: 18 Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 06:01 pm:        Here is my mare progression up to this point http://www.banksminiaturehorsefarm.com/pumpkin.doclet me know what you think!!   Diane Gatlin Neonate Username: Dhgatlin Post Number: 9 Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 06:41 pm:        Becca, I can't see the pics, can you load them agian. Jan, What happened to Rutta? She was huge in that pic!   Beth Nesbitt Weanling Username: Ponygirl Post Number: 34 Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 08:27 pm:        Becca, The pictures worked for me. Diane, I clicked on the open button and then on the normal view button on the bottom far right.   Becca Nursing Foal Username: Becca Post Number: 19 Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:15 pm:        well i updated the pictures so i hope you can see them if not ill upload them all to photobucket then i know you can see them. Also what do you guys think colt or filly?? She is huge but more wide than low.   Beth Nesbitt Weanling Username: Ponygirl Post Number: 38 Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 09:30 pm:        Becca, I don't have a guess as to filly or colt, but my mare has the same belly shape as yours. She still doesn't have much udder developement. Her vulva is looser and sometimes longer.   Becca Nursing Foal Username: Becca Post Number: 20 Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:24 pm:        beth how many days is your mare? I wish she'd hurry up.   Beth Nesbitt Weanling Username: Ponygirl Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 11:34 pm:        Becca, I don't know. She is a rescue, so I have not been able to find out. I am guessing she is atleast at 300 days maybe more and maiden. She seems ready, except not having much udder. It has developed a little in the last couple of weeks. Please note that opinions, product information, advice or suggestions posted on this bulletin board are not necessarily those of the management at Equine-Reproduction.com nor does the maintenance of the post position indicate an implicit or any endorsement of that information, opinion or product. 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