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KT (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 65.102.229.249
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This website has been great. I am now hoping for some experienced insight. I have a 20 year old TB who has had 2 previous foals (before I owned her). She was bred last year in June by AI, was checked by U/S at 14 days, at 25 days and again at 70 days (the last one was to determine the sex). All looked good. She has had what look like periodic heat cycles throughout her pregnancy so in December (6 months pregnant) I ran an estrone sulfate (foal proof) test and it indicated she was pregnant. She is now at 332 days and does not look outwardly pregnant. I also don't feel any foal movement which I did up to about 2 months ago. She's a big mare (wide and long backed) but I would think she would appear bigger. So I ran another estrone sulfate and it came back weak negative. I scoured the internet and it looks like in the last 2 weeks the estrone sulfate levels can drop to a basal level. So I guess my question is : Can she still be pregnant and just not showing it? And why can't I feel any movement? Thanks in advance for any input! KT |
   
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 199.3.209.136
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I have found that large, long backed mares do not show as much as a smaller, short backed mare. Are you saying that she was much larger than she is now, or that she doesn't look much different from what she was a few months ago?The foal could be in a different position in preparation for foaling. You may want to browse through some of the earlier threads, there are suggestions on where to feel for the foal at this date. If you have noticed a big change in her condition,and are worried, then call your vet. It would be worth the peace of mind for you. |
   
KT (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 65.102.229.249
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My mare has never looked pregnant. She looks slightly overweight but I've been feeding her extra for the last 3 months. She just doesn't look pregnant and, other than swelling (fat?) in front of her udders, she has very little udder development either. Thanks for the input - I was trying to avoid another vet visit by running the blood test but I think I'll take your advice and have her checked!!! |
   
TB (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 69.149.176.195
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I have a maiden paint mare that was pregnant, looked pregnant and we even saw movement of the foal up until a few weeks before due date, she never bagged up but had swelling in front of udders; on day 353 we took her to vet who said she wasn't pregnant and had either absorbed or slipped the foal; we keep a very close eye on our broodmares and she never showed any sign of being close to delivery or any sign of actual foaling; we stall our horses up at night; having a hard time trying to determine what happened; she has dropped over 100 lbs in past couple of weeks; vet says she's ready to re-breed; any ideas? |
   
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Unregistered guest Posted From: 65.1.119.107
| | Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 07:00 am: |
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a friend of mine breeds twh and she just had a 9 month preg. 20 y/o mare come into heat. she got to thinking and about a week prior the mare stayed up in a far corner of the pasture one day and when she finally came down she just kept whinning. my friend went up and checked the spot and sure enough there was a decomposing foal(a week)that mare showed no signs of slipping a foal or post-foaling my friend just rebred the mare and all is fine. I saw a news story about alot of mares aborting this year in my area, and they have traced it back to a large amount of bagworms(they crawl all over the ground and grazing mares are eating them) they said mares at all stages of preg. are aborting. i live in tennessee. i don't know if this will help but thought you might find it interesting. |
   
TB (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 69.149.176.195
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Thanks for the info. We live in Texas so that could be possible. I knew someone out there would know of a similar experience. |
   
KT (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 63.228.79.14
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Turns out my mare was not pregnant and must have lost it in January (6 1/2 months pregnant). It was hard for me to believe since I figured if she lost it that late we would have found something or noticed something. Anyway, my vet said she was the third mare he had seen this year that had lost the foal in later term pregnancy. My mare is in a very well maintained boarding facility in an individual paddock. They get fed twice a day and cleaned every day. I was also checking her daily when I came out to feed lunch. We have coyote and fox in the area so it must have gotten dragged away in the middle of the night. In hindsight, I guess there were a few signs - one day I came out and she was aggitated and neying. She had some udder development for a few days and I was concerned because it was too early for that. I am re-breeding her this year and hoping for the best. Anyway, I would guess we are not the only ones to have this happen - due date comes and goes with no baby. I guess foaling rates for mares are only around 50-60%. |
   
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 199.3.209.127
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Equines are the least fertile of all domesticated animals. It can be hard to take when most of the time, all goes according to plan. Good luck on the next try. |