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twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 11:37 pm: | 
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Hey everyone, saw the suggestion and thought I'd just go ahead and do it!
Thanks Sandy for looking! I swear to heaven she was all puffy on her sides last night!!! I don't know where that baby goes to, but this morning she looked like that!
Of note last night (and maybe associated with the foals position??) she was off her feed but NOT colicy. She actually just acted "full". She would take a bite or two of hay and walk to a corner, cock a hind leg and fall asleep. It was worrying and I did call the vet and he said as long as she wasn't distressed, it was probably the baby sitting on some part of her gut causing her to not know WHAT to feel! This morning she was right as rain. So I learned something else new!
I'll post more pictures in March.....I know that baby is in there somewhere |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.182.83
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 12:58 am: |
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Thanks for starting part two, have wanted to write but can't see the last replys in this catagory. Have a mare at 323 days and am getting very excited, this will be my second. Two nights ago mare very restless and showing signs of going but she decided to wait. Of course stayed up all night watching her on camera. I think she's decided to wait as it got very cold here (Ireland), and I woke up to 4 inches of snow on the ground and counting. We don't ever get snow! Will keep everyone updated. |
Toni
Posted From: 66.156.35.32
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 09:35 am: |
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I am new to this group, although I have read tons of postings to try to learn. My problem is I have a 10 year old Miniature mare who is pregnant. This is her fourth or fifth foal. The problem is the lady we bought her from can only tell us she is due anytime from now until July. She says not to worry, she will just deliver with no problems, but we want to help if needed. We are new horse owners, so can only use your experiences to help us learn. The mare, Sophia, is HUGE. Her udder started developing in January, but is not "full and tight"--Its actually big but wrinkled. Lately she is is standing on one hind leg than the other for hours at a time. Her tail is up a lot, and her bottom looks bigger(???). I don't know how to milk her so that I can test that. What is a good way for me to know when she is due? |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 09:49 am: |
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As we have a part two now (thanks!) I'll copy my last update and questions here:
I just checked my mare again, her vulva is sooo long and loose its almost scary, her bag was harder, but still not super tight, milk still yellow, but her behavior was weird. She held her tail tight and half way up during her dinner and when I looked under she was "sqeezing" her rectum and vulva, like trying not to let out gasses or something. Then a few minutes later I looked and her tail was normal and also her vulva was way, way relaxed again.
The milk is not sticky Sandy, and last time she foaled she did wax, and drip, eventhough she did all that in a matter of 2 hours, I just guess I'll have to wait al little longer, shouldnt complain though, she's at 327 today, last time she went 333.
I also forgot to say I saw movement in the area above and to the side of the tailhead, the area that becomes jello.
I saw it yesterday, and thought maybe I was not seeing it correctly, but today, while she was eating I watched for a while and, jep! There it went again! Is that the foal??
Toni, you should read the aritcle about the changes in the color of the milk, it should help you: http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/predicting.htm |
Jim T.
Posted From: 68.71.37.174
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 11:54 am: |
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Corine,
The movement you are seeing on each side of the tailhead is indeed the foal. The front legs are way up in the birthing position and when the foal moves them, you see movement beside the tailhead. I have a pony mare that does the same thing. I don't even check her bag anymore. When I see movement beside her tailhead she always foals within 48 hours, but that's just her. I think you are very, very close. Good Luck. |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.243.205
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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Corine,
Thanks SO MUCH for starting part two! You're awesome.
Jim T. is correct in that yes, that is the foal you are seeing moving next to the tail head. Although his mare foals within 48 hours of him seeing this, a lot of times the foal begins this practice of putting their hooves into the birth canal weeks prior to foaling. That is what they are doing, practicing getting into position.
Toni,
If you don't know how to milk your mare, then there are a few other things you can look for to determine impending foaling. Although none of them are as good as the color and consistancy of the milk. Her udder will get really full and tight and stay that way all day long, and will get warm to the touch. Some mares will change their behavior the day they are going to foal. They may leave the herd and go stand in a corner whereas before they would be right with the herd. They act generally uncomfortable, not being able to stand still for long, pacing. Another thing that my friend and I have noticed over the years is that the mare will yawn a lot. Sounds weird, but they will yawn quite frequently in the hours before foaling. Now of course, these are things that are only going to be noticeable if you're looking in on your mare quite often throughout the day.
Last year I had my camera on my mini mare for about 2 weeks prior to foaling and I would watch her behaviors throughout the night and early morning. She would always stand in a specific corner of her stall to sleep. One morning I looked at the camera and she was standing in a different corner and was sniffing the air a lot. I thought to myself that it was kind of weird and not her normal behavior for that time of the morning. Sure enough, by 1pm her milk was white and by 9pm she foaled. So, it was something really subtle, but yet I had a feeling that something was up because she was doing things differently than normal.
Teb:
It has been said that mares can hold of foaling for the proper conditions. But they can usually only hold off for about 24 hours. I had a mare one year who had false labors for about 2 weeks prior to when she actually foaled. It drove me crazy! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 12:10 pm: |
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Thank you Jim! I thought so and had also experienced this before in a different mare, she also went a few days later! I'll be watching her!
All the other signs are here, except for the milk... |
Toni
Posted From: 66.156.35.32
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 01:12 pm: |
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Thanks Sandy,
After reading some earlier postings, I just separated my mare from her companions (a 10 month old mini filly and an 11 month old mini male (colt?)) Is that the right thing to do? I hate to separate them early, but last night and today she has been standing by herself alot with her tail up. She is also urinating alot. (a little at a time) But her teats don't look huge to me. I saw a picture of full udders and they looked like implants, Sophias are nothing like that.
Again, thanks so much for answering. I have a fear of doing something wrong! |
Rooty
Posted From: 64.231.52.224
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 01:32 pm: |
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I'm not sure what others do about separating mares from their friends but I have had a sneaky mare foal while out with her donkey buddy and her foal and there were no problems. Overnight I have them in where there's electricity, but during the day I won't keep them entirely alone, I separate from the larger herd, but always put someone sensible like my retired broodmare out with them. |
TX. Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.42
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
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If her companions have been with a mare at foaling time, and all was well then you may be just fine. However, I have seen cases where a nervous mare stepped all over her baby worring about it. The other horses were fine, but a new mother can be very protective and actually do harm to the baby. The closer she gets, I would expect her to seek a more secluded area.
As long as she is not isolated from her "herd" she should do well.She may want to see, hear, and maybe touch her friends over a fence, gate of door. |
Suzanne
Posted From: 205.188.116.13
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 06:23 pm: |
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Toni: We only keep mares that are in foal together. We raise racehorses so 99% of our mares are off the track and those mares that are open or maidens tend to get a head of steam over little things. Once they foal we separate them from those mares that are still carrying.
On the other front Patience is really earning her name. We are still waiting. Her belly is still V shaped but things have moved back and her flanks have filled in again. I still can not express any milk from her bag. Vulva is long and a little open at the bottom and her croup is very soft and mushy..She is 349 today. Somebody please tell me it will be soon. I don't think we will ever cover two mares so close together again! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 06:46 pm: |
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Suzanne, I hope it will be very soon for you!! She sound like she is getting close!
My mare also likes to change shapes on me, right now her flanks are hollow, her croup really soft, vulva long and thick, but only thick in the middle.
Her milk is still yellow, usually it streams out easily, but this evening it came out real slow, one big drop at a time. Hope that means progress.. |
Amanda
Posted From: 195.92.194.17
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 07:14 am: |
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Hi everyone, just discovered this site so thought i'd share my panic and uncertaintainty with people who sound as if they know what they're doing. I've got two mares in foal; a 19 year old maiden at 317 days and a 12 year old at 297 who's had a foal before (but not with me).
The mare at 297 days seems ok, some swelling in her udders, but nothing much. She seems to be carrying quite low (so maybe a colt?).
My other mare these past two days has had a hard udder in the mornings and yesterday it hadn't completely gone down when i got her back in. While checking her udder last night some milk droplets came ouy on to my hand which were yellow and slightly sticky. Not sure what that means but its very exciting. She definately needs a wide load sign so i'm hoping for a filly there. There seems to be a little softening around her tail head but she still has a huuggee ass, not sure how reliable this is her being a maiden though.
What do you reckon, is she a candidate for sleepless nights yet? |
Rooty
Posted From: 69.196.103.102
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 10:32 am: |
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Well, I do use FoalWatch so I don't rely on physical signs as much as some other posters, but if the udder has just started to stay full throughout the day you probably have a little time yet. Although with her being a maiden who knows. I had one maiden who bagged up less than a week before foaling, then another who bagged up a month ahead or time. Usually when the milk goes from yellow to white it's time to start staying up. Hope all goes well for you. |
Amanda
Posted From: 195.92.194.14
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 04:41 pm: |
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Thanks Rooty,
I've got a foal alarm on hire from the 7th which should help, but i'm on tenterhooks in case she foals before that. I just don't want to miss it. |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 05:09 pm: |
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Amanda, I hope you'll catch the foaling too! Its so exciting!!
Update on my mare, 331 days today, udder the same, but teats are less filled now..?
Also her flanks have really caved in and she has developed some adema under her belly, eventhough she does exersize herself quite a bit all day when she is out.
Milk still yellow. |
Suzanne
Posted From: 205.188.116.13
| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 08:55 pm: |
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Just had a question and an update. Patience is 352 days and counting...thought she was going to go last night lots of pacing, pawing and getting down and up..around 2 she got down groaing and passed gas got up and was fine the rest of the night. I still can't get anything out of her bags which are still a good size. She now has two softball size swellings between her front legs. My question is...her V shape is gone and so has the sunken areas at her hips. Her belly is still low but she has almost no definition between hips and belly. Good soft croup and almost no tail resistance. Does this mean the foal has moved back closer to the birth canal. This mare has been the complete opposite of all of the mares which I have foaled in the past!
You thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much! |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.133.34
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 11:55 am: |
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Suzanne,
It does sound like the foal has changed position, that could have been the cause of your mare's uncomfortableness.
Whether the foal has moved into foaling position or not is really hard to say.
It seems like she is getting closer...just hang in there  |
Suzanne
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 02:12 pm: |
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Thanks Sandy, were trying. The vet was out today to check on one of the fillies we are sending back into training. He took a peek at her and wondered why she was still hanging on. The senior year vet student he had with him is from Iowa and he says that alot of the mares there sometimes wait until the snow has stopped falling..well in VA today its cloudy and snow/sleet/freezing rain...
Happy foaling! |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 03:22 pm: |
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Well, of course I forgot the camera, but went and visited my mare (maiden, 277 days today) yesterday and she looked pudgy again. I can't figure out if the foal can bounce around that much or what!! Brought my sister with me so she could see her and she noticed the round belly high up towards the flanks right away. No udder changes, which of course is good.
Sandy how is your mare? |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 03:43 pm: |
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Well Suzanne that could be true I guess, we have had cold weather with on and off snow for a week and expecting it for another week and my mare is still on yellow milk. Everything else is there, belly has dropped big time, she has "dents" in het round butt, thats how loose she is, vulva is relaxed, just no milk... or at least no white milk, to filled teats yet either.
Hope you dont have to wait to long! |
horselady
Posted From: 67.71.153.246
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 03:55 pm: |
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twgait:
My maiden mare is at 270 days. We are going to have foals pretty close together ! Shes getting fatter by the day now. I really noticed a change over the past month, but I guess that is because the foal is growing so fast now. There are no udder changes in my mare either. The boarding facility has put a larger winter coat on her to cover her big belly, and they are upping her feed since she seems hungrier than last month. She is also turning her head alot and looking at her belly. Makes me wonder if she really knows what is going on or whether she thinks somebody is poking at her LOL. Anyway, the boarding facility has also put her in her own paddock since she seems more sensitive to being around the other mare she was with. We are expecting a huge snowstorm tonight with 20cm of snow and blowing snow ughhhh..... so I guess she will be putting a day in tomorrow safely tucked away in her stall.
KEep us all posted on the foal countdown! |
Linda Lee
Posted From: 205.188.116.13
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What a wonderful site. I just found this..so informative.I was looking for a sight that shows the development of the foal..befor foaling, to watch for size of foal while developing. One of my mares is due May 10,so, I'm getting excited. This is her second, so I'm hoping she'll have an uneventful delivery. She will be foaling in the pasture, as all I have are run ins. |
horselady
Posted From: 67.71.153.246
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 09:27 am: |
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Premilimary testing is in on the foal I lost on Feb 19th. I will paste from the Lab report:
HISTORY:
05/02/21 Received one frozen solid Paint equine fetus.
Aborted with no prodromal signs on Saturday Feb. 19 am.
The mare is not sick. She passed the placenta uneventfully.
Housed with cattle on a dairy farm. Mare has access to silage that
the calves are fed. Placenta was examined by vet from Almonte and
it was assesed as grossly normal (not submitted to lab). The mare is
fed dry hay, oats. Two fillies (not bred)are also on the premises.
No recent additions to herd. No known recent respiratory disease in
the mare or fillies.This was the mare's first foal.She is 4 yrs old.
She has received all vaccines, including Rhino for pregnant mares.
Last dewormed in January 2005. No recent medications.
2005/02/22 SENT 1 sc, 1 lg to G for BACT cultf
SENT 1 tifr to G for VIRO iso
2005/02/23 SENT 1 jar of cassettes to G for HISTO
GROSS PATHOLOGY
Gross Pathology Report: 05/02/22
On 2005/02/22 at 08:50, a thawed 6 kg 59 cm long female equine fetus
was necropsied by JL Shapiro. Autolysis was advanced.
The fetus had scant body fat stores. Meconium was not formed.
The lungs were inflated. The thyroid glands weighed 1.1 gm.
The stomach contained meconium and thick red mucus.
GROSS DIAGNOSIS:
Abortion, hypoxic thin fetus
COMMENT:
Fetal changes were not etiologically specific. However, the poor
body condition and meconium staining of stomach content indicates
that the fetus was poorly nourished in utero, and terminally, did
not have enough oxygen. This may have been due to inflammation of
the placenta and/or uterus, vascular placental or umbilical cord
malformations,hormonal or other abnormality of blood flow, genetic
defects of fetal metabolism, inappropriate immunological interaction
between fetus and placenta, non-infectious uterine pathology or
other undefined problems in the uterine environment.
More results will follow.
2005/02/22 SENT 1 sc, 1 lg to G for BACT cultf
SENT 1 tifr to G for VIRO iso
2005/02/23 SENT 1 jar of cassettes to G for HISTO
GROSS PATHOLOGY
Gross Pathology Report: 05/02/22
Culture Reported: 05/02/28
Lab Technologist: Debbie Bateman BSc AHT
# Specimen ID Results
--- ----------- --------------------------------------
5 lung No bacterial growth
6 stomach content No bacterial growth
No fungal hyphae were observed on wet mount.
4+=large, 3+=moderate, 2+=few, 1+=occasional organisms isolated
r+=replate
HISTOPATHOLOGY
Histopathology Report: 05/03/01
There were no significant lesions in herat, skeletal muscle, brain,
adrenla gland, spleen, intestines, liver, kidney, thyroid
gland, eyelid, umbilicus.
LUNG- alveoli contained asmall amount of meconium and squames.
HISTOLOGICAL DIAGNOSIS:
Meconium aspiration
COMMENT:
There were no fetal lesions of an infectious cause of abortion, such
as bacteria, fungi, protozoa or Equine herpesvirus ("Rhino").
Virus isolation is in progress and a final report will follow. As
indicated above, the fetus had signs of lack of oxygen and was in
thin condition. In the abscence of lesions of infection, this may
indicate hormonal, genetic or endogenous chemical interference with
placental function, or lesions confined to the uterine wall |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
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Thanks for posting that horselady, I think this is educational and although heartbreaking, will give answers. I was an NICU nurse for years and we frequently saw meconium aspirations in newborns. The old school of thought was that something happened in the uterus to "stress" the baby enough to pass meconium. I say "old school" because when I left the NICU they were saying that it could happen for a variety of reasons. Anyway, the baby would then inhale the meconium particulate because it was now in the amniotic fluid, which the baby "practice breaths". When a "mec stain" baby was born, we just suctioned very well below the vocal cords. That might be why there was meconium in the foals lungs. Again, I'm so sorry about your loss. I guess nothing is for sure until the baby hits the ground and even then there's stuff to worry about. Yeesh.
My mare is still out with her dam. They have been together pretty much for the last 8 years that I've owned them. They get along well and I don't think "grandma" will bother her if my mare doesn't want to be bothered. Actually it's always been the pregnant mare who's been the pain in the butt. Mine will start coming in to a stall at night starting in April. Right now she's just pasture boarded. The wait is gonna kill me.
Linda Lee, welcome!! This board was a life saver for me and quieted a lot of my fears!! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 01:39 pm: |
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Ok, my mare is at 335 today, she carried 333 last time. Her udder was very full, she had small white pinheads in each hole in her teats, but yet her milk was clear/yellowish yesterday.
She was very restless last night, vulva dropped, hips are hollow, the even have dents (this is a Paint mare that usually has a really, really round behind).
Today the weather took a turn for the worse, we got over a foot of snow and its cold. Her udder today actually went down after only a few hours of turnout.
She's kinda driving me up the wall...;-)
Anyone have an idea whats going on? How long can she do this?? |
horselady
Posted From: 69.156.76.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 02:08 pm: |
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She might just hang onto that baby until the weather turns nicer Corine. I've heard of mares doing that. My mare is at 275 days and is fat and happy. We also got a foot of snow yesterday and the sun is out today with a high of -4c. Shes out in the pasture laying in the snow soaking up the sun all nice and bundled up in a preggo winter coat. |
Suzanne
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 03:12 pm: |
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Corine: Patience is at 356 days and has been doing the same thing your mare did yesterday for the past two weeks! Hang in there. I thought last night was it. She came in from the field and promptly laid down and rolled and wouldn't touch her hay or grain for the first half hour..then all was well. I think the foal was laying on her bowel wrong. Her bag is tighter today and I can actually express some milk now. Soon hopefully! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 06:58 pm: |
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Suzanne, I sure hope your mare does not keep you waiting much longer anymore!! Shes living up to her name allright!
And I hope you all are right, that she will go when the weather turns nice... that could still be a week to ten days according to the weather man... |
Cindy
Posted From: 64.114.210.28
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:40 am: |
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My mare is at 310 days and is a maiden mare. She has absolutely no udder development, is this normal?
I have her at my parents which is 7hrs away and I would really like to be there for the foaling. So I am hoping she gives me lots of notice! I am going to go down and stay starting day 330 and hope she doesn't go earlier than that and I happen to miss it. She is a small framed mare and I have to admit doesn't look that pregnant. I know when I took her to my parents in Dec. she definately was pregnant as I could feel the baby kicking.
It is so hard being so far away but we do not have a large animal vet up here and I will not take the chance to foal her out without one. My parents are great and doing their best and keeping me updated with digital pics. I also have an experienced breeder friend that is checking up on them and they wouldn't hesitate to call a vet. I guess I am just getting anxious and nervous. Hoping all goes well. Best of luck to everyone on their foaling and breeding this year. |
lindalee
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 04:22 am: |
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The first time I bred my little half arab,(it was her first) she went a full 365 days, to the day. I thought she was gonna pop. Of course I got a beatuiful little colt. Her second, she was right on the due date, a blue ribbon filly. I didn't breed her this past year, but a full arab this time. She's due May 10. |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.249.112
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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Cindy,
Yes, it is normal for them to not have an udder at 310 days. I had a mare one year who did not get an udder until 340 days, and she foaled at 375!
I wish you the best of luck at being able to be there for the foaling. That's a long drive, 7 hours |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:42 pm: |
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Hi all! Well, today my mare came in with a full, but not so tight udder. I checked her milk, its very light yellow, runny, but this time it made my hand sticky. How can this be? Its not thick, its not white, its runny, but yet sticky...? |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.181.86
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 02:54 pm: |
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Corine,
I read your posts and I'm laughing because my mare is 331 days today, she went 331 last year, and for 2 weeks my husband and I have been camped in the living room with the monitor(don't ask,husband says won't reach the bedroom)with the same signs as your mare. She's been very restless lately but still clear milk. Every time I check her milk I get annoyed as I'm at the point where I think the mare is having a right laugh at us. I know we should sleep sound with the milk being clear but she gets so restless. The best is when she's down snoring. Between hubby and her I wouldn't be getting any sleep anyway! Last year my mare was a maiden and woke up to find a healthy filly foal in the stall when I went out. I was looking for more obvious signs and didn't have the camera, so this year am determined I am seeing this foal born wether Stella likes it or not. I just wish she would hurry up! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 04:09 pm: |
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Oh, that does sound just like my mare! I know, I dont even want to check milk anymore, knowing it wont be white yet once again ;-)!
Haha, and we also have the cam in the livingroom, that oh so compfy couch is starting to give me major back pain! It's great for a nap, but not for 8 hours a night for 2 weeks! LOL!
Well, I hope both of us will be able to hang in there (as if we have a choice ;-)) and get nice and healty foals soon!! |
Amanda
Posted From: 195.93.21.6
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 08:16 am: |
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Hi everyone, its great to read everyone else's good days and bad, i have been reading most threads on here so decided to start posting, i have 2 mares in foal 1st is due april 24th but she isnt that big and has no bag and showed no signs yet, the other is due may 15th and is like an elephant but hasnt got a bag either she has had 2 foals before and i missed both of them she does it when i nip home to get something or nod off, so hoping not to miss this years. I have been laughing at the posts as every year i get stressed looking at teats and milk and bellys and tail the list goes on and i still lose 2 weeks sleep evrytime its great fun ! cant wait to here some more up dates.
Amanda |
S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 01:16 pm: |
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Guess I might as well jump in too. My mare is at 310 days today. This morning, when I checked her, she has a little bag beginning. My prediction is that she will foal on April 7th and it will be a filly. PS - this is the mare with the caslick, that comes out the 19th of March. Good luck to everyone expecting foals! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 01:36 pm: |
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Welcome Amanda and S Smith! It is so much fun sharing story's about these mares that just all seem to keep us wating!
My mare came in today with a full hard udder, I took pics right before she came in, hoping maybe this means it'll be soon...;-)
Here is the picture of her udder late this afternoon: http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/5639015/87762168.jpg |
S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 03:08 pm: |
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Hi Corine! Those nipples need to pop out quite a bit before she foals. Keep an eye on that and the milk if you can. Good luck - I don't think it will be long! |
Suzanne
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 07:21 pm: |
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Corine: her bag looks like Patience's however, her nipples are long and have a fuller look. Still can't get hardly anything when I milk her..just a drop or two and its salty so we still have a little while. 358 days and counting.
Welcome to S. Smith and Amanda |
horselady
Posted From: 67.70.71.81
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 07:22 pm: |
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Id like to think that if I took a picture of my mares udder the second picture wouldnt be of me with a big fat hoof print in the middle of my forehead LOL.. just kidding.. My Becky had her 9 month Rhino today and a check over by the vet. She is off to the foaling facility around the beginning of April, so for now shes just staying at the horsey holiday inn until moving day. |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.89.34
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 08:33 pm: |
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I'll get some of Pattis udder tommorow SHe is at about 315 days now , but this mare NEVER fully bags and only waxes on one teat so who knows with her !
Virginia |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.183.25
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 01:00 am: |
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Hello S. Smith and Amanda,
Just thought I'd give everyone and update on Stella. Yesterday evening we had a very big udder and teats are very large and descended. Still clear milk as always. Also, last night she was getting a bit restless, rubbing her but against the wall and then trying to kick out at the wall. Very restless all evening. I am hoping tonight is the night. I really want to see my foal darn it!
Horselady-glad everything is o.k. with Becky! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 03:17 am: |
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Thanks guys, I'll be watching those nippels now!!
She had a quiet night, so I actually got some sleep!
Suzanne, hopefully Patience wont keep you wainting much longer!
Horselady, I have to tie her in order to look also.. she's not really happy about me hanging under her belly...;-)
PAF, how long does she usually go??
Teb, sounds like Stella is getting close! Hope she changes milk color soon! |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 207.35.162.187
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 11:28 am: |
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Corine : From her past owners observations she will go a week early or right on time , plus she will udder but not bag fully intil the foal is born , and if she does bag she will only wax MAYBE on one teat , she is a bomb waitn to happen hahaha always no rest with this mare ! This is my FIRST foal from her , so I guess its my turn for sleepless nights ...
Virginia |
Suzanne
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 12:58 pm: |
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Well, I can finally milk Patience. Yellow and sticky and three squares on the predict a foal test. Its snowing here today so she and the other mama are up together. Patience has suddenly taken and interest in Truly's baby. Before she could care less. Have any of you seen your mares get interested in another mares foal before she foals her own? |
Tx Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.163
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 03:24 pm: |
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Certainly have, and I've had them "steal" babies! Yep... the most ridiculous sight being a Clysdale mare that stole a newborn. She was running around the field like she had really done something, and that tiny baby had no idea who to go to. Her momma was barely 13 hands and in a panic.Luckily I heard the early morning commotion and lined them all out. Momma had foaled early, with no bag and no obvious signs. From then on, she was separated early on from the herd, she was a sneaky one. |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 07:35 pm: |
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Cool Suzanne!! 3 squares is getting close, isnt it? (Havent used test strips in years)
I guess you need to watch out she doesnt steel that baby like the Clydesdale did!
Simply, my mare, is really not feeling well tonight, did not finish het 8 pm hay when I made the last checkup at midnight.. she did eat her grain though. Het milk still yellow/clear but nippels filling...! |
TX Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.127
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 05:38 pm: |
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Just an observation; most mares (not counting those confused maiden mares!)foal between 2a.m. and day break. That way, baby has time to nurse,bond with momma and be ready to run with the herd at first light. Survival instincts kick in, the mare can relax more in those early morning hours before predators are out and about.
I have seen mares all but push that baby out and then stop when the sun started to come out. |
sharon
Posted From: 65.118.235.100
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 06:11 pm: |
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just wanted to say "hi" to you all and say I am still checking in on ya,,,waiting for your hopeful good news!! My baby is two weeks old...if you would like to see his pics :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Sharon/tangobybarn.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Sharon/tango.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Sharon/tangobelleend.jpg
we had a good delivery this year,,have to respectfully dis-agree with the night-time foaling ...she waited for the coyotes to quit their yippin' all night and had him at 9:30 in the morning! hope you all the best!!
sharon from Michigan |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.55.82
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 09:22 pm: |
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OHHHHHHH Sharon he is just adorable what a Cutie Pie ! Was his daddy Homozygous ? no matter he is just beautiful , Congrats !
Hug the little one for me , he looks so huggable !
Virginia ( Still on Marestare )
Northern Ontario Canada |
Suzanne
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 09:25 pm: |
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Sharon: he is soo cute! Great color especially with the new puter!
Update on Patience. Predict a foal kit 5 squares in 15 seconds...hopefully soon. Paced the fence most of the afternoon to come in. No wax but milk is white sort of a mix between skim and regular but not sweet. Really doesn't have much of a taste at all. I will keep yall posted! |
Cindy
Posted From: 209.53.84.170
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 09:29 pm: |
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My mare is coming up on 314 days. Still no udder development and nothing exciting to tell you. I feel like I am out of the "loop" with no exciting info to share. Hopefully soon!
Should I assume she will probably go a bit late if nothing is happening so far? I guess it is always hard to tell... |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 10:14 pm: |
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Congrats on your new baby Sharon. He's a keeper for sure. I am in Ottawa Ont. We are expecting more snow tomorrow again... ugh... my mare still has a long way to go. Shes around 275 days or so and just looks like she has a big belly compared to her before pictures.
This photobucket.. is this a public place to post pictures? |
TX Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.39
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 11:11 pm: |
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Coyotes and snow! Bless her heart, she did a great job. There's no hiding that loud paint at night or in the snow! |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.133.162
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:51 am: |
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Sharon,
What a doll! I bet you are just thrilled with him.
My maiden mini mare is at 316 days today, has a small udder, but her nipples are pointing inward toward each other, so much so that they are touching.
I clipped her belly yesterday just so it is easier for me to be able to see her udder without all of that long winter hair in the way. Plus it's hard to look at a mini's udder anyway, I have to get on my knees and practically stand on my head
After shaving her belly, I could really see how big her tummy is, and I'll tell ya what....she hardly looks pregnant at all! This is going to be one tiny foal. (which is actually a GOOD thing) She looks like she has swallowed a basketball, just a round little belly.
Cindy,
With your mare being at 314 and no udder development as of yet, I'd say you're probably looking at your mare going a little over 340 days. But considering she is a maiden, she could wait to make a full udder until after she foals.
I seriously don't even know if my maiden mare's udder is going to get any bigger than what it is now. It's just so hard to say with maidens |
Cindy
Posted From: 64.114.210.5
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 11:11 am: |
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Well I am really hoping she gives me notice. She is at my parents which is 7hrs away because there is no large animal vet where I live and I didn't want to take the chance of something going wrong. I was going to head down at about day 330 (unless she shows signs she is going to be earlier) to stay until she foals. I really want to be there!
I hope she doesn't pull a sneaky one on me!
I have another mare due end of April and one end of May. They both look much bigger but then they have had previous foals. |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.89.132
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 12:36 pm: |
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Ok here is an update on Patti
These are photos of Patti at 5 am this morning she is looking really impressed with me taking her photos
Also we looked over her breeing date and her LBD is April 19th 2004 so she is earlier then expected ! Also Patti does NOT bag completely till last minute and will only wax on one teat if you catch it heheh !
Not the relaxation in the croup , pronounced tail head and she has a elongated vulva now as well ! Wonder when baby will COME Fingers crossed for HEALTHY , COLORED FILLY , daughter wants HEALTHY , COLORED COLT haha She will probably get what she wants , but WHO CARES I just want HEALTHY !
So go take a peek see of Patti ! Can't wait ! Snow storm tonight my luck she will go ! UGh !
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/paintedacresfarm/pattiboob6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/paintedacresfarm/pattimar7.jpg |
Suzanne
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 01:34 pm: |
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WARNING LONG POST
Patience finally foaled at 12:38 this morning. Huge bay colt with a big star and two socks. She had some trouble delivering (his head was deflected up towards her rectum and she wasn't progressing. All turned out well for the foaling, however, she completely ignored him. Didn't nicker or whinny to any of his cries. Got up and went back to eating. When he tried to stand she went after him. She retained her placenta as well. We bottle fed little man colostrum we milked from her and are now restraining mama for half hour feeds and then moving her to a stall beside the foal as she will attack him if left unattended. If her attitude doesn't change by morning we have a nurse mare coming in from NY. Vet just left with IgG check up..failure of passive immune transfer even after 30 ounces + of mares colostrum so poor thing has been tubed with oral serum.
Good luck to all of you on watch. I will post pics as soon as I can get some rest... |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.89.177
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 02:06 pm: |
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OH Suzanne ! So sorry for all the troubles , man if only these things didnt happen  My fingers are crossed that all will work out with momma and baby , please keep us posted on the situation and go get some well deserved rest !
Virginia
Painted Acres Farm |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.183.92
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 02:15 pm: |
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Suzanne,
I am also sorry for your troubles but at least little man is in very good care. You have everything sorted it sounds like. Take care and keep us updated!
terri |
TX Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.183
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 04:06 pm: |
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Suzanne- I had a mare that did the same thing. I am pretty sure that killed she her first foal, I think that was why they sold her. Of course, they forgot to mention it.
Patience and the little guy are lucky that you were there. Really. She relates the pain and trouble to him. I had to restrain my mare, and get rough with her when she made any aggressive moves. It did not take long for her to figure out that being with the foal gave her safety. Without him, I "attacked" so to speak. It was important that she related the negative to being away from the foal, and the postive when he was brought back to her. ( all the while shielding the baby )
Her attitude can be changed. You just have to be willing to correct her quickly and in the strongest terms.
It is all so exhausting, good luck. |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 07:08 pm: |
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Suzanne, I'n sorry it hasn't gone as it should! But hopefully all will be well soon!!
Keep us updated and looking forward to the pictures!
PAF, hoping Patti wont keep you waiting too much longer!!
Simply is now 341 days...sigh... her udder went down, this evening back up, but not really tight yet.
She bagged up almost 8 weeks ago, her vulva is swollen, she had red scabby stuck along side of it this evening, her butt is so jello its scary to groom her ;-), she has a major dip in front of both her hip bones, just the udder and milk is what we are waiting for! And she went 333 last time!! |
sharon
Posted From: 65.118.235.100
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 08:55 pm: |
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OH Suzanne!! so sorry about the situation with your baby! so hard to understand why a momma would do that,,,if they could only talk! Good luck and prayers coming your way!
thanks you all for your kind words about my paint colt..he has quite the personality too
horselady...yes,,photobucket is a public posting area. It is a wonderful service. Try it out and post some pics of your babies
hey, sandy,, good idea on the trimming the belly! my colt had fuzzy covered eyes when he nursed because momma is shedding so badly, wish I would have thought of shaving her.
well, you all are good horsie nursemaids! It is tiring, and sometimes brings tears (even out of frustration!!) but worth the efforts...good luck! |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.182.198
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 01:34 am: |
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Hello,
Just an update to say Stella had a beautiful bay colt foal by Padinus(Heartbreaker/Grannus) last night at 9:00pm. Milk stayed cloudy by the way, and never got white til afterwards. Mom and baby are healthy and that's all I wanted in the first place. I will post pics when I can.
Suzanne how is your little guy?
Corine anything yet? |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.182.198
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 01:37 am: |
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Almost forgot, Sharon your foal is gorgeous! |
Amanda
Posted From: 81.134.10.174
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 05:56 am: |
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Congratulations to Sharon and teb on your foals and Suzanne i hope all comes well.
Just an update on my mares. My maiden mare Susie is now 327 days and getting more restless in the evenings. Her udders stayed hard all day now for 12 days and this morning there was a solid droplet of milk hanging off her teat. Its getting quite thick and sticky now although its still yellow, but not sure if it'll stay that way til she foals. She's still very round and slightly sunken on her bum, but nothing like the mares with photos posted. Do you think she's close?
My other mare Hazel is now 307 days and has started to get udder development in the mornings these past few days so i think she'll probably hit her due date on April 10th.
teb
Can't wait for you to post your photos. My mares are in foal to Corland and Orame and i'm hoping to put to Burgraaf and Heartbreaker for next years foals, so i'd love to see what your colts like! |
lindalee
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 06:25 am: |
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Suzanne sorry to hear your mare's instinct hasn't kicked in. Maybe you can persuade and teach her. When my pinto had her first, she didn't know what to do, wouldn't let it nurse, so we had to twitch her then guide the colt, then she was fine. No problems with the next one. Sharon your baby is beatuiful! My bay mare is due May 9. The last one was born right on target. Patti is marked alot like my pinto..lovely. |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 07:31 am: |
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Contrats on your new foal Teb ! Im getting impatient for mine though it is still a long way off. |
S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
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Sharon - what a beautiful colt! Congrats!
Suzanne - so sorry about your mare/foal situation. I raised an orphan filly last year whose mama rejected her. I'm happy to report that she is a very healthy, active yearling now.
My mare, Majic is at 312 days today. She is bagging up nicely. Had the vet out Saturday to geld my yearling colt and she thought it best to remove the caslick from Majic. I'm keeping it moist with vaseline. Does anyone know how long I need to do this to keep it from growing back together?
For everyone else - good luck on your coming foals!
Sandy |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 02:24 pm: |
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Thanks for the tip on Photobucket Sharon. I will take my digital to the farm this weekend and try to get a few shots of Becky with her winter coat off. The temps up here in Canada are supposed to be around 1c (which is just above freezing) so maybe I can get a few good shots. Becky is 277 days today so we still have a ways to go yet |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 05:31 pm: |
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hmm.. put one picture on photobucket of Becky when she was 5 months along. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/canadianhorselady/Becky-whatbelly.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/canadianhorselady/BeckyBigTrot.jpg
This is what she looked like pre-preggo.
Thanks for giving me the site. This is a great way to post pictures.! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 06:49 pm: |
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WAUW!! Love the trot picture!! She looks awesome! |
sharon
Posted From: 65.118.235.100
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 07:46 pm: |
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wow!! horselady,, she is pretty! you have a ways to go, but honestly, the cold weather babies are so tough when you live in country like ours (temps at 13 degrees tonight). The pasture has hidden "ponds" of ice from a few weeks ago when we had a meltdown,, and now for the next couple weeks very cold again. I wish he could run and play, but so worried about slipping. It is hard to wait, but next time, no winter babies. Maybe early spring, to avoid the bugs....geesh, after waiting like we did I am planning again. Must be nuts. |
JoyDrost
Posted From: 24.25.170.56
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 08:20 pm: |
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I'm new to this board and I absolutely love it!! I've had so many questions answered and have been able to view tons of photos so I'm feeling a bit better about what's happening with my mare as we wait for that baby to come out...
My mare is a maiden mare, 4 years old, and seems to be progressing nicely. Her last breeding date was April 19, 2004 so I believe that puts her at just about 328 days?? She has started to bag up..I could see it quite well the other day between her back legs as she went bounding out into the snow. She can still beat the rest of the horses down across the pasture..LOL. I've not been able to get any milk expressed thus far..been concentrating more on her letting me touch her udder, clean it, etc. Before she was bred she wouldn't let you touch her belly area at all. She still threatens to kick at times but her udder is pretty hard right now although not all that full.
I've been taking her temperature at the same time everyday and am watching for a "drop". I've read that that can be an indication of her being ready to foal even when other things are not yet telling you that it's time.
Anyone else have any experience with keeping a temperature record? |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
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Thanks guys, She sure is a pretty horse, and shes a real people person too, not marish in the least. Its terribly cold here tonight -35 with the wind chill, so Im glad shes in at night where she is boarding. I hope for nicer weather this weekend and want to take some new pictures if it is warm enough to take her winter coat off. I was hoping for a nice warm March, but so far, its colder than the winter was. ugh..
I'm glad she isnt due quite yet. A nice early May baby suits me just fine. I cant imagine having a new foal on the ground in this kind of weather though once I have my own barn up it won't be such a problem, though I doubt I will ever be one of those people striving for that Jan 1 foal. |
Suzanne
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:19 pm: |
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Hey guys just wanted to give a quick update on Patience and her foal. We rushed him to Blue Ridge Equine Center yesterday morning. He had a little impaction that the vet saw him for at 2:00 a.m. and she retook his IgG at this time with still no clot after his oral serimmune. She ran a total protien and a CBC/Chem on the leftover blood. He had almost no WBC. Long story short he has pnuemonia...that started in utero per the Internal Medicine Specialist at BEC. Which is why they think Mama wouldn't take him. His WBC has doubled yesterday and he is active enough that they had to remove the foal bed this a.m. because he was playing with it.
Patience has a horrible uterine infection. We flushed 5 gallons of yuk out of her yesterday. Waiting on the vet now to flush again.
The nurse mare is on standby and BEC will acclimate them before they come home.
Thank you for all your thoughts and prayers! Good luck with foal watch and congratulations on the new foals! |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 05:32 pm: |
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My goodness Suzanne, what a nightmare! I'm glad he is active though!! Will be thinking of you, Patience and her foal!! Give them a big hug from out here!!
Simply is driving me nuts! 342 days today, very nervous, walking in circles for an hour, loose stool, yawning, biting at belly, then she just shuts down again, no wax... |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 07:28 pm: |
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Suzanne, all my best for your horses, I hope everything calms down and both do well!!! I'll be thinking of you!
I was out on Monday to meet my vet for Lilly's 9 month Rhino; I quizzed him to make sure he thought she was prego-he said yes, he was sure. OK I say, but geez, she's still not showing much and kinda looking fat on her topline.......
I went out today to drop off feed and the barn owner called me over and told me to look at Lilly (maiden 286 days)and BAM!!! There's the baby!!! She suddenly has the pregnant abdomen; her back is now pulled downward. Where in the heck was the baby hiding on Monday?? Well at least now I believe there is a baby in there! |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 07:31 pm: |
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twhgait;
My Becky had her 9 month Rhino last week. Looks like we have mares due around the same time. I am hoping to get out to the boarding facility this weekend to get a few new pictures with her winter coat off, but its been so cold lately I don't want to bother her with all that. My Becky will be going to a foaling facility on April 2nd and staying there until the foal is born. She is being bred back to the Buckskin tobiano stallion the breeder has there. That will give me a homozygous tobiano foal next spring. |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
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Cool horselady!! We will have to keep close tabs on eachother! I'm going to get more pics tomorrow, now that there is something to look at LOL! My mare starts coming in a stall at night in April too. Give her time to get used to it. I admire you breeding back right away, I'm actually kinda scared to. I'm thinking a year off will do us both some good! She's doing well, but you can see that she doesn't quite understand what's happening in her tummy. She gets very quiet and has gone off her feed twice. Vet says it's all normal, but I still worry and I just want to get thru this with both of us intact! |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.87.86
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 09:19 pm: |
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My Becky seems to be taking it all in stride, so far anyway. At the place where I bought her, her half sister had a foal last year, and according to the ranch, the foal spent more time with Becky than the mother, so I think as far as maternal instinct she will be fine.
As for breeding back, the place I am taking her to foal will only foal out the mare if I breed to the stallion. I was planning on breeding to him anyway since my mare is a homozygous bay as well as homozygous tobiano, which means unless I breed to a dilute horse all her babies will be bay or chestnut, I wanted to breed to a stallion that might give me something other than Bay or Chestnut, and if the Buckskin throws the creme gene in it could result in a Buckskin or Palomino foal. With my Becky being homozygous tobiano, and the stallion also being homozygous tobiano, at least i know we will have a homozygous tobiano foal no matter the color.
As far as the foal heat, from what I have been told, it isnt the best heat to breed back to and has about 30% probability of success, so she will be staying at the foaling facility with the foal until she is confirmed in foal for next year. The facility is about 2 hours away from where she is boarding now, but everyone tells me that is no big deal trailering the foal when it is around 3 weeks old... I guess we will see.
My other mare that lost her foal at 6 1/2 months along will also be going back to be re-bred this spring, though I think I will wait a while on her since I really don't want two foals due the same time. She was bred to a black and white homozgous tobiano and we were hoping for a black and white filly. That is what we lost last month.
Anyway, Id love to see pictures of Lilly's belly and I will try to get some pictures of Becky's this weekend weather depending, and will post on photobucket for comparing. |
teb
Posted From: 194.125.181.115
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 07:11 am: |
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Hello All
Suzanne, I hope everything gets better for you soon. At least the little guy seems to playing around a bit-that has to be a good sign. Now that my foal is here I am looking at every little sign because they are so fragile at this age. More paranoid now than when I was just waiting for Alfie.
Amanda,
Will definitely try and get some pics up by next week. He is a flashy little guy with 3 high whites and a little crooked blaze. I couldn' be happier with him.
Horselady,
What great pics of Becky! Can't wait to see her foal! You shouldn't worry about shipping at 3 weeks with the foal. The TB people have to do it all the time as only live cover for those girls. Most of the foals born at this place are always on a horsebox their first month.
Everyone good luck with new foals and expected ones! Now busy trying to pick out next years Daddy!
teb |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 03:42 pm: |
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Hi!!
Well, I went out as promised and took pics
You can find Lilly's new pics along side her pics from 270 days. The side view is the most impressive one! You can really see how that baby dropped down!
http://groups.msn.com/Mareandfoal/lillyspregnancy.msnw |
Linda Lee
Posted From: 205.188.116.13
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 05:54 am: |
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My bay mare is due in May too, and she doesn't look too pregnant, but she didn't with her first either. Also, she didn't give any signs she was getting really ready..but she delivered on her expected due date..exactly! Suzanne , my thoughts and prayers are with you. |
Joy
Posted From: 24.25.170.56
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:52 am: |
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My mare is starting to look like she is ready to burst. Here is a photo of her at about 10 months. She is due on March 20.
http://photos.yahoo.com/kerulu |
Linda Lee
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 06:22 pm: |
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Joy, Wow, only 9 days to go! She's looks ready. My mare has a couple months yet, but she's really looking pregnant all of a sudden. I will try to post a picture of her this weekend. |
Suzanne
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 06:23 pm: |
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Thank you all for your thoughts! Things are looking better. Oliver as he has now been named is eating from a tupperware bowl to avoid aspiration and his WBC has tripled. Nurse mare is on her way down from NY if the weather will co-operate. Patience had her final flush today and all looks well.
Truly was covered with two breedable follicles today and so starts another breeding season.
Horselady, our vet doesn't recommend rebreeding on foal heat either. 75% don't catch and the 25% that do half of those slip. We always wait especially with the TB foals being larger there is alot of bruising of the vulva and cervix. |
Eagle View Arabians
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 09:02 pm: |
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I know that a lot of vets and breeders don't breed back on the foal heat but just kind of some interesting info for ya..... I bred my mare back twice on her foal heat and she took both times with one live cover! No problems with the pregnancy and healthy foals. Maybe just luck? |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:08 am: |
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Hi Guys!! Here an update on Simply, 345 dags preggers now! Her udder is staying full, even after turnout, though she does not move around much.. here's some pictures, how long is this going to last??
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/5639015/88685484.jpg
and her bag:
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/5639015/88685441.jpg
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/5639015/88685457.jpg |
Suzanne
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 11:04 am: |
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Corine: doesn't look like it will be long. That is the way Patience bag look two days before foaling and her nipples never did fill and I barely could get any milk out of her until the day she foaled and then it was skim milk colored. Your wait should be coming to and end! |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.89.237
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 09:14 am: |
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Corine : Any updates on your mare ?
Suzanne : Hows the little one doing ? any updates to share on him and momma ?
Well my mare is still hanging in there , that baby is really moving around her tailhead, croup looks almost painful , all you see is feet bulging out ..Yikes ! Patti is NOT impressed with this fella / lady ! Wonder how long it will be with all that movement there ???? Any suggestions folks ! lol
Virginia |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 02:34 pm: |
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Well, tonight even more bag, het teats are filling and it looks like she has leaked some milk on her legs...! So I hope it will be soon!
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/5639015/89116947.jpg
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/5639015/89116974.jpg |
Suzanne
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 05:23 pm: |
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Corine: Any day now! Good Luck!
We have wonderful news on Ollie. He should be coming home by Friday if his white count stays at 5500 or above! He loves his new mama too! She is a Leopard App mare named Colors and she loves her new boy as well. He latched onto her before she could even get through the stall door all the way and they have been inseparable since.
Patience looks good she is almost through her round of SMZ's and has her old attitude back. |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 207.35.162.129
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 11:26 pm: |
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Man Corine , Patti dosent have that kinda udder she is a funny mare and will only wax the day she foals and only on one side , so who knows I sure cant wait to hear about your mare , I say anyday for sure !
Suzanne : I am SOOOO happy Ollie is doing well and big hugs to his nurse momma She sounds lovely ! Let us know how Patiences does !
Virginia
P.S Sandy how is your mare doing ? |
S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 08:05 am: |
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Majic is 321 days today. No change in her udder, but watching it close. I'm hoping our weather will warm up so I can de-blanket her! I will have the foaling stall all ready this weekend for her. I'm still predicting around April 7th for a foaling date! Good Luck to everyone else who is still waiting!
Sandy |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.254.239.147
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 12:04 pm: |
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My mini maiden mare is at 324 days today, and over the past couple of days her udder has really grown a lot. I don't know if it's going to get any bigger honestly. She has been acting kinda weird too, she swishes her tail a lot, kicks at her belly, bites her sides, she's been lying down a lot more frequently too. Her "milk" has been coming out a lot easier when I try to get some. Yesterday the milk was a very dark yellow and pretty thick and sticky. I haven't checked her yet today.
I think she might go another week or two, but it's so hard to say. Last year her mother foaled at 323 days with this same stallion, so it could be any time |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.89.147
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 12:40 pm: |
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ok here are some updated photos of Pattis udder , taken a few days ago They are posted I think in Udderdevelopment ???
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/paintedacresfarm/pattibagsm.jpg |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 01:55 pm: |
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He is here! Simply foaled at 7 am after a long nicht of watching her I was so relieved! She had an awesome Black Breedingstock colt! Eventhough he has no color I am totally in love!
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/6899618/89242595.jpg
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL66/846824/6899618/89206211.jpg |
Tammy Snell
Posted From: 152.163.100.13
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 02:02 pm: |
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ok you guys I have been reading all your posts for quite a while now!! I am a 1st time breeder and have learned soooooo much from this board, Thank You to all! good and bad! I just had my mares first ultrasound today and she has a follicle that is 33m so I will be breeding her on thursday, Iam so excited I am hoping that she will take on this first time, she is a maiden mare, so we will see??
I love reading all the stories and experiences that you all are having, it is very exciting not to mention educational! Good luck to all who are expecting, hopefully I will be one also this time next year! |
horselady
Posted From: 70.49.85.177
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 02:13 pm: |
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Congrats Corine on your new colt. Hes a cutie-pie for sure!
Tammy: I am also new here and am expecting my first foal around the beginning of May. I have been taking notes and getting tons of advice, both genetic and foal related since I started reading and posting here. It's great! |
connie picou
Posted From: 192.25.158.13
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 03:09 pm: |
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I found out about a month ago, that the pony mare we bought last fall is pregnant. The vet estimated about 2 months to delivery. I've heard about, read about, and attended a mare care/foaling clinic which talked about the milk test strips (foaling test kits) inwhich a few drops of milk is mixed with distilled water and you look at the color change on the test strip. Suppose to measure the calcium and magnesium in the milk and is suppose to indicate labor within 24 hours and is 98% accurate. The one vet that did the mare care/foaling clinic promoted the use of these test strips. But in speaking with my vet, he strongly cautioned against this method because he said by infrequent milking of the mare even a little, you break down the mucus milk plug and it could lead to infection in the udder (unlike a nursing foal, the milking is frequent). Do you have any thoughts on this? Is it safe or not? |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.89.75
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 03:56 pm: |
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Oh Congrats Corine He looks adorable ! I am envious , were still waitin ! Again he is just lovely !
Hugs to momma and little one !
Virginia |
amanda
Posted From: 195.93.21.6
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 05:04 pm: |
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Hi Corine, you must be so happy and relieved to have a gorgous healthy baby, well done !!!
Mine havent even got a bag yet and the first one is due april 24th, thinking she may not be pregnant !! |
sharon
Posted From: 65.118.235.100
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 05:34 pm: |
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Corine....HE is GORGEOUS even without spots!!! he is going to be a looker with that beautiful head and blaze. That first pics makes him look like a grullo. Have fun! |
Painted Acres Farm
Posted From: 209.226.55.181
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 11:43 pm: |
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Ok folks here is a updated shot of patti's vulva ( warning this is NOT Horsey Porn ) haha , poor thing must be sick of me taking photos of her most privates ! Photo on top is about 3-4 weeks ago , bottom photo is today ( March 15th 2005 )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/paintedacresfarm/vulvafebmar.jpg
Virginia |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 02:44 am: |
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Thanks everyone!!
Virginia, I can sure see a difference there!! |
S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 07:44 am: |
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Corine - congrats, congrats! What a beautiful colt! I've had a couple of black (&white) colts and they looked a lot like yours when they were born. He looks perfect to me! You must be so proud. Now, I'm really excited for Majic to foal. She's the mare that gives me black/whites. Give that baby a kiss for me and keep the pictures coming!
Tammy - welcome to the forum. It is really great place to learn and enjoy! Good Luck with breeding your mare.
Sandy |
Corine
Posted From: 80.100.15.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 08:40 am: |
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Sandy, thanks!! He will indeed be black, as his mom is. I have high hopes for him, his sire is a World Champion Halter stallion (Paint) and I had his frozen semen shipped out to Europe just for this baby!
Sandy, for you records, I recall you keeping track, this mare carried to the side her last pregnancy and had a filly, this time she carried low and had a colt! |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.249.202
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:23 am: |
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Hey Corine, thanks for the info on the wide/low thing. Congrats on the colt, he's a doll!
All three of my mares are carrying low, so it's going to be interesting to see if they all have colts.
My mini maiden is 325 days, and her bag is full and tight, her vulva seems to be a little more relaxed as of this morning. Her milk is still clear, yellow and extremely thick, like honey. I don't know how much longer she's going to hold out. |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 12:11 pm: |
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Sandy, what is your experience when the foal starts out high and then drops low in the ninth month? This is what happened with my maiden. I posted pics for everyone to see the side by side comparison. You can't tell in the 270 day photo, but she was very pudgy up high at the front of her flanks. In two days, she dropped down and now the baby is all in her belly (there goes the girlish figure!!). I'd love to know what you think!
Here's the link:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/TWHGAIT/lillysides.jpg |
Rooty
Posted From: 69.196.103.102
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 12:33 pm: |
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connie picou: We have used FoalWatch which is a milk testing system, for 8 foals and have had no problems with infection in the udder. It is a risk, though, you should always wipe the udder clean and wash your hands before milking the mare. |
Suzanne
Posted From: 205.188.116.65
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 03:08 pm: |
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Corine: He is gorgeous. Congratulations! I know you are happy the wait is over!
Ollie is home with his loud spotted mama and he loves her to death! Truly and True are home and her 14 day check has been scheduled. She ovulated two follicles so keep your fingers crossed that one slipped by. Our mare in WV is in foal 14 days and will be coming home after her 28 day check. So our breeding season is off in a flurry. A local Arabian farm donated semen to us for our nurse mare. She has to be sent home in foal to a registered stallion. We are so appreciative to them!
Sandy: sounds like your mini won't be long! Truly foaled 18 hours after her milk turned honey like.
Painted Acres: definately change there.
Good luck to all!
P.S. Connie Picou: I have used the mare foal predictor kits for the past four years and knock on wood no infections or problems with the mucous plug with udder stimulation! |
connie picou
Posted From: 192.25.158.13
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 09:32 am: |
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Thanks Rooty and Suzanne for commenting about your experience using milk test strips. My vet is very anal and if there is a 1 out of 100 chance of a problem, he advises not to risk it. I hadn't read anything on the web about risks, so I was confused who to follow!
I do not know what the due date is. I unknowingly bought her already bred. She started bagging on March 9. I do not believe she's maiden...it looked like her teats were 'used' when I bought her. Her bag is about 1/2 full. No other signs which I've read about here on this message board (which is really cool I might add!). I just hope she doesn't foal when I'm stuck here at work!!! |
Joy
Posted From: 169.244.70.148
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 09:45 am: |
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When I went to the barn last night and took my mare out of her stall I noticed that her back legs were quite filled and warm. Her belly looks "different" to me...the skin toward her udder is not as stretched looking and under her rib cage it's very hard. She looks really uncomfy with her legs and I'm sure part of it is because I can't get her outside right now..the pasture is just too icy. Would it hurt to wrap her legs behind to give her some support? We have two stalls opened up for her right now and plan to open up a third tonight so that I can walk her back and forth to see if that will help but I know with my one race horse who has a rather large back end that wrapping him behind helps to relieve the filling in his hocks so maybe it would give her a bit of relief also? Just a thought!! She is due on Sunday...)). Her udder is filling nicely and last night I saw the first signs of moisture on her teats..shouldn't be too long now, I hope!! |
Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.133.146
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:16 pm: |
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twhgait,
I would say your mare still looks more wide to me than low, by the pictures. I would go more off of how they carried through the majority of the pregnancy rather than at the end of the pregnancy. So, if she carried high and wide for this whole time, I'd still say a filly, but ya just never know.
I'm still patiently waiting on my mini mare...today will be the third day that her milk has been honey. I went through my records of previous years' foalings with other mares and found that the milk can be at the honey stage for 2-10 days before they foal, so that really doesn't tell me a whole lot. Other than I could still be waiting a while...LOL. |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 01:28 pm: |
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Thanks Sandy!! I would LOVE a filly, but as long as I get SOMETHING, I'll be happy!! |
sharon
Posted From: 65.118.235.100
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 07:21 pm: |
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Joy, my friend's mare just went thru the same thing with the swelling of the legs (2 days before foaling, by the way)....her legs were swollen up by her belly more than below, quite odd.
I am not too sure about wrapping, but the vet told her it is important to get that mare exercised often, it will reduce the swelling....also, it helps to get the foal in the correct position. It won't be long now !! good luck! |
Joy
Posted From: 169.244.70.148
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 11:07 am: |
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Fortunately, it warmed up here yesterday and I was able to get her outside for about 3 hours. We actually had to go down through the deep snow and make her come inside..LOL. I could hear the coyotes howling in the woods and I just didn't dare to leave her out..the snow is too deep in some places for her to be able to get away quickly if need be.
The swelling did go down. We opened up a third stall for her last night and put the straw in...she has more room to move around and we have her feed at one end, water at the other end and hay in the middle... She'll have to move around now....
Will keep you posted...She's looking like she should go on time but you never know. |
sharon
Posted From: 65.118.235.100
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:07 pm: |
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Joy, I don't think it is a coincidence we have had coyotes in the "back yard" for our last three foalings, you will have to keep an eye out too. I swear they can smell a pregnant mare's urine when she is getting ready to foal.
Great way to get a mare to move around,,little "treasures" of hay in several different spots take care. |
Joy
Posted From: 24.25.170.241
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 02:50 pm: |
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I woke up at 3:45 and went to the barn to check on my mare and she was down in the stall. Two little feet were making their way into the world... Everyone is fine and we have a beautiful bay filly. She took a while learning how to nurse but I think she's going to be ok. She's lively and gets up to nurse about every half hour. I'll post photos soon.... |
amanda
Posted From: 195.93.21.6
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 05:10 pm: |
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Joy thats great news, keep us posted how she is doing and send some pics !! |
LInda Lee
Posted From: 205.188.116.65
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 08:52 pm: |
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Congrats to everyone, Corrine what a beatuiful colt!!! I have about 55 days left befor my mare foals. Lots havs gone on this week! I brought home one of my yearlings, Monday, she promptly..dicided to escape the paddock, so we have been busy adapting her this week. Shes fine now..except a scraped leg..oh well |
Joy
Posted From: 24.25.170.241
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 08:56 pm: |
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Ok..this is probably the easiest way to get to see the pictures since I'm not very good at posting them.
http://photos.yahoo.com/kerulu |
Anonymous
Posted From: 67.66.147.3
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 12:07 am: |
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Hey everyone,it's good to hear I'm not the only nervous one waiting on a new baby.My mare is 340 days today.She doesn't like an audience when having babies and will wait until she's alone to have them.She's never had a problem before and hopefully this one goes smoothly too.Thanks for posting all the great info.You all have a great day. |
Ralph
Posted From: 67.66.147.3
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 04:57 am: |
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Congratulations Joy---nice baby.Have a good one---Ralph |
Amanda
Posted From: 195.93.21.6
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 08:25 am: |
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Joy he is adorable, congrats! |
Ronda Hulon
Posted From: 207.69.138.134
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 12:36 pm: |
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My mare is 313 days today. I have noticed that she is really soft in the tailhead area and I can literally see the baby kicking in her rump/hip area. Is this normal and what does it mean exactly? Her bag is almost half full now. Thanks |
Ralph
Posted From: 67.66.147.3
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 02:58 am: |
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I think tonight's the night.My mare is acting very strange.I'm on the midnight shift for two more days and hoped she would wait until Wed. so I could be there but I don't think that's going to happen.I have my daughter checking her throughout the night and will call me if there is a problem.I'll keep everyone posted.---Ralph |
S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 07:31 am: |
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Joy - congrats on that cute little filly. Glad to hear all went well. Majic is 327 days today. Her bag is getting larger and is quite hard. No softness yet in the tailhead. I'm still leaning towards April 7th as the day. Ralph, good luck. Hope it all goes well. |
horselady
Posted From: 70.48.53.176
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 09:03 am: |
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Joy:
Congrats on your new little filly. Shes adorable! |
horselady
Posted From: 70.48.53.176
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 09:13 am: |
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twhgait:
I took some pictures last weekend on my digital camera. Just have to get them over to developing and I'll post. She was 281 days on the 12th, today she is 290. |
twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 09:34 am: |
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I'll be waiting horselady!!! My mare will be 300 days on Wednesday. I'll take more pictures then also!! |
horselady
Posted From: 70.48.53.176
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:09 am: |
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OK. here are the newest pictures taken last weekend (March 12th). I didn't get any taken this weekend as we were busy tapping our trees for the annual Maple Syrup run. Shes still fat and happy and enjoying herself !
Here is Becky taken from the side at 281 days
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/canadianhorselady/BeckyMar12.jpg
This one is a rear end view
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/canadianhorselady/BeckyMarch12rearendDay281. jpg
And last, a belly shot taken the same day
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/canadianhorselady/BeckyBellyMar12Day281.jpg
She will be going to the foaling facility on April 2nd, then returning to this facility after the foal is a few weeks old and she is bred to the Homozygous Buckskin at the foaling facility. |
