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Stages of Foal

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Cinder
Posted From: 161.184.205.21
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm wondering if there is anything I can look at that shows how the unborn foal grows and how big it is at 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, etc.

Thanks
 

Cathy
Posted From: 67.1.7.182
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a site that showes actual pictures of aborted fetuses. It is very good.
http://www.nemr.net/~ccason/index.fetus.htm
 

Celia
Posted From: 151.213.157.235
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, there is another site...that doesn't show the aborted foals...
http://www.bashkircurlies.com/FetusTimeline.htm

Hope that helps...

Celia
 

Cinder
Posted From: 161.184.206.199
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey thanks Celia that's very interesting. I noticed that it is a Bashkir Curly horse site that it is on. Do you have curlies? My mare is a ABCR registered half curly. She's the one who's in foal. I can't wait to see the foal!! lol. She's about in her 5th month I think. That timeline was very interesting, it's exactly what I wanted. now I know how big that baby is! Thanks again!
 

Celia
Posted From: 151.213.153.49
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, but I know of several breeders around my area with Bashkir Curly. I was planning on breeding my mare to one until I decided to go with an arabian or a thoroughbred. I picked an arabian. Blacklord Falkhann. She is 161 days, or a little over 5 months pregnant. I am just so excited!!! I've heard Curlies are great jumpers. I want to do some more research on the breed, where abouts it came from, etc. I am a sporthorse breeder, so...!!!

Celia
 

Naiza
Posted From: 203.32.82.8
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A FEW MONTHS AGO I BOUGHT AN 8 YEAR OLD SHETLAND MARE. SHE WAS IN SEASON OVER CHRISTMAS, AND WHILE I WAS AWAY, I WAS TOLD THAT THE STALLION IN THE NEXT PADDOCK BROKE INTO HER AND THEY MATED A FEW TIMES FROM WHAT WAS SEEN, AND AS NEITHER OF THEM WANTED TO BE CAUGHT, THE STALLION WAS LEFT WITH HER FOR TWO NIGHTS. CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS THE CHANCES THAT SHE IS IN FOAL, AND ARE THERE ANY WAYS TO TELL IF SHE IS OR NOT WITHOUT GETTING THE VET OUT JUST YET. I AM A LONG WAY FROM THE CLOSEST VET, AND IT GENERALLY COSTS ME AN ARM AND A LEG TO GET THEM OUT HERE- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT WORTH WHILE.
 

Trisha
Posted From: 209.187.120.129
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eek, if they actually did mate, I suppose the chances are pretty good that she could become pregnant. This is generally a time of year that mares are not cycling, so it is possible that she was in heat without ovulation, but I wouldn't put any money on that one. I would definitely get her checked, but there is really not much they can tell until about 20 days or so after she is out of heat. I believe if you do not want the foal (assuming there is one), a shot of lutalyse will take care of it. Otherwise, I suppose you could just watch her and see if she comes back into season, but at this time of year, she may not come back in just because her body is saying it isn't time for breeding. I know it bites the big one, but your best bet really is to call the vet.
 

Naiza
Posted From: 203.32.82.8
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Trisha, I do hope that she is foal, as when i bought her i took her away from all her paddock mates, and the only other horse on the property is my 16.3hh Thoroughbred, so they are seperated, and i think that she could do with the company. I have never had a foal though, so i dont really know the first thing about it. i have had horses all my life, but usually i would buy them young, train them and sell them, so i certainly wouldnt mind the experience. So there is no real way of telling until either a vet or a foal hey?? That makes it hard...LOL! Its generally around the 8th month that they really start showing is it?? Is there anything else i should know?? I will call my vet at the end of the month, and get him to come and see her so i know if i should be expecting or not. Thanks again for your help.
 

Anne
Posted From: 151.213.153.49
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Naiza,

Actually, I recognized my mare was pregnant at 3 months! Now she is 5 1/2 months pregnant and is a good size! Let us know if she's pregnant or not.

Anne
 

Trisha
Posted From: 64.65.233.43
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would say Abby was about 5-6 mos when her skin started to shudder weird. I think anytime Soph would kick, it looked like an alien crawling beneath her skin. I didn't "see" much of a difference until 7-8 mos or so, but Ab's is a big bodied, older mare, so her belly naturally hangs a little low.
I still vote for a vet check. You don't know if there was a preexisting uterine infection or anything like that...and trust me, you don't want your foal in one of those.
She will also need Pneumabort at 5,7 and 9 mos, also at 3 if there are horses going off the property to show or anything like that.
Crossing my fingers for you, and keeping posting, there is a wealth of info here!
By the way...what type of stud got in her pasture?
 

Naiza
Posted From: 203.32.82.8
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well thanks guys for your help. I will get a vet out to her. Ill give them a call and organise when they would prefer to see her. If there was a uterine infection, what would have to be done? Is it easily treated?? And what does the Pneumabort do? There are no horses that would leave the property, would she still need it?? And Thankfully Trisha, it was another little shetland that got to her. She was forever teasing him from the day i got her, everytime i took her past him- i guess now he got his way!! LOL.
 

Cinder
Posted From: 161.184.182.19
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Celia...

I'm also really excited about my mares foal!! I've never had a mare in foal before.
Where is the area you are in? I'm in Alberta, Canada. I also am into jumping and sport horses. There are many sport horse curlies. My mare is a fantastic jumper and she's bred to a Connemara so the foal should be an awesome jumper. I have seen and read lots of information on curlies, and I think they are absolutely one of the best breeds ever!! I think you should definitely consider breeding you mare to a Curly next time! lol. here are some Curly information sights that I have found.

The American Bashkir Curly Registry website of course has lots of good info...
www.abcregistry.org

Curly Traits...
http://www.sunnybrookstables.com/PageSSCurlyDesc.html

Curly Origin...
http://www.sunnybrookstables.com/PageSSCurlyOrigin.html

Curly Genetics Info.
http://www.sunnybrookstables.com/PageSSGenetic.html

Hope you find them interesting. :-)

I have been to lots more sights but can't find them right now because unfortunately my computer isn't working properly right now and does not let me on certain pages including angelfire pages and geocities and many others. I'll try to post more sites if you'd like me to once my computer is working again.
 

Trisha
Posted From: 64.65.233.43
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know if they will allow a mare to carry if there is a uterine infection. Most often with something like that, the mare will abort or not conceive.
Pneumabort is the rhino vaccine for pregnant mares. It is different than the normal rhino that they get with spring shots or whatever. Rhinopneumonitis (sp?) has been known to cause abortion in mares, hence the boosters at 5, 7 &9 mos. I would give it to her, even if the horses never leave. I would hate for a late term abortion due to rhino.
"Phew" on the shetland stallion thing. You said something about a 16.3 hand TB, and I got really worried. I mean, I have heard of drafts and warmblood stallions covering pony mares who healthy foals, but it would give me heart failure at foaling time!
I hope everything works out for you. Keep us posted!
 

Naiza
Posted From: 203.32.82.8
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well i took her to the vet yesterday to have an ultrasound (on 20th day) and unfortunately she was not pregnant. This even came as quite a shock to the vet, as she was covered several times, and looking at her stage in the cycle at the moment, it would have been the right time for her to conceive. I am unsure if the Stallion is the problem, as he is in the paddock with a mare all the time, and she hasn't foaled for about the last three years (this seems unusual) but she has had a foal to him before then. Is it possible that he could have something wrong with him that he didnt have three years ago? So unfortunately no luck this time, but i will try again next time. There was no sign of infection. What is the cycle of a horse?? When is the best time to breed them?? Ive had geldings most my life, so i have never really taken note.
 

Trisha
Posted From: 64.65.233.43
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Horses generally only cycle March to October or thereabouts (at least here in the Northern Hemisphere), which is why I was so surprised that your mare was in heat. Where are you located? Might clear up some of my confusion if you are down where it is summer now and not 20 below like it is here in NH! Their cycle is generally about 21 days from start to start, and last 5-7 days, I think.
Might be worth getting the stallion sperm count tested if you really want a foal from him.
 

Naiza
Posted From: 203.32.82.8
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am in NSW Australia. and yes it is summer here at the moment. I do not necessarily want a foal from this stallion, i wouldnt mind putting her with a smaller stallion to reduce the foals size a little, so i may look into a couple of studs around here. With all this excitement of possibly introducing a foal to the scene, i have decided to buy her a stallion now a possibly another couple of mares. I have always had an interest in miniatures, so i think i will look into buying a few mares and a stallion just for something different. I havent had alot of time to spend with my thoroughbred due to work, so i think its time to sell him so he gets the attention and training he deserves, and move onto something a little different, just to spice things up a bit. I am actually pretty excited about it, i think it was all just getting a little manotnas for me, and i think a change would do me good.
 

Celia
Posted From: 151.213.155.95
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cinde,

Those site on Curlies were very interesting and I will definatley be looking into breeding curlies! How many months is your mare? Just curious. I live in Georgia! Really far way from Canada. But I have been to Canada to hop on a different plane to Englad! Set foot in Canada twice!!!

Celia
 

Cinder
Posted From: 161.184.180.184
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

:-)
My mare is about five months along, around day 162 of her pregnancy. This is the first time I have had a mare in foal, but she has had 4 foals before so she's quite experienced and knows what to do. She is really sweet and looks so nice with her curly winter coat! She looked really pretty with her curly hair all frosted over this morning - it was -42 degrees Celsius here today!!! Very cold! But she didn't even go into the barn she has access too. Just shows how good curlies are in cold weather. :-)
 

Anonymous
Posted From: 211.27.67.55
Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is a good one

http://www.eagleridge-twh.com/fetus1.htm
 

S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Anonymous - Thank you so much for the website! It was great! My mare is 301 days today, so I don't have much longer to wait!
 

Cinder
Posted From: 161.184.176.147
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anonymous- That is actually exactly the same timeline as is on the page Celia gave me - http://www.bashkircurlies.com/FetusTimeline.htm
They are different pages but have the exact same timeline.

I too think it is very good.
 

brnsctyates
Posted From: 65.128.64.28
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello, I have an Australian Brumby who is now at day 339. Large bagging but no milk. Some small white spots on the end of teats for days. Rubs rear end on anything & everything. Crusted dark red blood on vulva for 5 days off & on. Watched mating 041304. This is my first, any help wld be appreciated. I have a baby monitor, what different signs will I hear?
 

anyssapark
Posted From: 202.92.102.220
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all, just after a bit of info. I have a mare that was due to foal on Sunday 28/11 (sun just gone). She was bagged up on Sunday 21/11/04 (so now at her 9th day since bagging up), and has had a rock hard udder since Thursday (so shes had it for 5 days now). I have been told, and read that they foal 7-10 days after bagging up, and i havent had a horse thats broken that rule yet! Most of my mares foal the day or night that their udder goes rock hard. Should i be worried that she still hasnt foaled? Or is the 7-10 days just an estimate??
 

Anonymous
Posted From: 216.174.234.26
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know of any web sites that show what a 5 month pregnant mare should look like. I heard from a friend that she should be showing. I mean she's round but it is winter all of my horses are pleasantly plump. What should she look like?
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.249.179
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know of any sites that show what mares look like during their pregnancies, but at 5 months you're really not going to notice a whole lot of changes. She will probably just look like the rest of your horses, pleasantly plump:-)
I have seen mares who don't show anything until they are about 8 months along and then they just all of a sudden got huge.
You should start to notice something in her shape changing within the next couple of months I would imagine.
 

Rooty
Posted From: 67.71.19.171
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My maiden mare is definitely showing at 5 months. My coach's maiden mare is not as pregnant looking and she is 7 months. They're all different! My other mare who is 7 months looks like she's going to have an elephant.
 

horselady
Posted From: 70.48.53.171
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My maiden mare will be 7 months the first week of Jan. She isnt showing much at all, but rather looks a bit rounder than her usual self. My other maiden mare looks like shes eating for two :-) but she is only 5 months along. I think she's a bit of a piggie. Both are doing wonderfully well and I am waiting for an early May foal and an end of June foal.
At my vets recommendation I am giving each of them Mare and Foal feed from Blue Seal, approx 5 pounds a day in two feeds, plus free choice hay for the piggie and lots of water from a heated waterbowl, and my other mare is getting the same Mare and Foal feed, plus lots of hay and water from where she is being boarded for the winter.

I will be checking my first expectant mom more closely on Friday to see whether I can detect any movement. She has had a blanket on for the past month since I brought her up from the states to Canada and it is a bit colder here lately than her home state.
The weather on Friday looks like it might be around freezing, so I will let you know if I detect any movement yet. I figure she was bred around June 4 - 12th, so that makes her about 220 days or so if my math is correct
 

Ronda Hulon
Posted From: 66.207.236.187
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm really worried. I have a 4 year old maiden mare this is supposed to be about 235 days. I noticed today that she has a little blood on her vulva. I called the vet and she said if she continues bleeding that she would come check her. I just hope she is not aborting! Anyone have any info on this??
 

Jos
Posted From: 165.121.168.176
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bloody vaginal discharge from a pregnant mare is almost certainly as a result of a leaking vaginal varicous vein. This is not unusual - although more common in older pregnant mares - and is not something to be worried about. It is extremely unlikely that it is a sign of impending abortion, as blood leakage (unlike humans) is not a sign of such in the equine.
 

Ronda Hulon
Posted From: 66.207.237.153
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks a lot for the info. I have checked her and there is not any more blood, so I'm relieved. This is my first foal, so I'm anxious and nervous. I'm counting down the days!
 

Cindy
Posted From: 209.53.84.65
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My sisters grey maiden mare would commonly have small drops of blood in her hindend in the later stages of her pregnancy. It was really obvious against her grey coat but she foaled a healthy foal 3 months later and had no problems from it.



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