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Maiden mares

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marty strout
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know this must sound crazy, but is there anything you can do to prepare a maiden mare for her first delivery. What I mean is my mare is 14 and due with first baby in June. I have no other mares on the farm only elderly geldings and I don't think she has ever been around any mares that foaled. Will she just know what to do? I feel stupid asking but she is a great horse and I hate the idea that she will only know she is hurting and not know why. During her early pregnancy she spent a lot of time looking at her belly when the foal started moving. She has settled into the pregnancy very well, appears content happy and oh so fat right now. Just worrying about this maiden issue when the labor starts.
 

Sandy
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Honestly, there really isn't anything we can do to let a mare know what is about to happen. I wish that we could. All you can do personally is make sure she is in the best shape she can be in and is healthy. That will help a lot. If she is out of shape and has spent most of her pregnancy just standing around then she might get a little more tired when it comes time for delivery. But for the most part I believe nature will just take over and she will know to push when the time is right.
Horses are very good moms for the most part. It's funny how you can see a mare that you think will just be so upset and confused about having a foal and she turns out to be a very loving and receptive mother.
The best thing you can do is just make sure that when your mare is about to foal that she is somewhere that she is comfortable and doesn't feel threatened. You also don't want to be too much of a present force either as she may want to be comforted by you and pay attention to what you're doing there instead of paying attention to delivering the foal.
So, just make her comfortable and she should just take it from there.
Good luck!
 

Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a maiden mare that will not stand and let her foal nurse. we have milked her down so it wouldn't hurt and she stood for a day and this am she wouldnt stand again. i need some advice on what i can do to get her to stand.
 

Elizabeth Hardy
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have the vet out, who can give her a mild tranquailizer and an anti inflamatory shot.. She is hurting and has not associatd by letting foal nurse the pain decreases... You milking hre out does not solve that problem.

If she continue not tolet the foal nurse.. halter her and pick up on of her front legs. That will keep her from kicking foal.. OR you may need to hobble her..

good lluck liz
 

Corine
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My maiden mare did the same, would not let the foal nurse, eventhough she was crazy about him otherwise.
We also had the vet out, he gave her a tranquailizer, just as Elizabeth mentioned, and she was fine after that. Good luck!
 

kelly
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

has anyone heard of the mares having trouble letting the foals nurse because the uterus is contracting? and this causes them to be in pain
 

Corine
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I havent. But I also have to say that my mare let me do just about anything, but when the foal would try, not even touch yet, she wouldnt let him...?!
 

Dianne MacDonald
Posted From: 24.222.71.42
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 1/2 welsh pony -maiden mare, quite delicate in shape bred to a 14-2 pony stallion. I 've been quite careful re feeding her only small amts of grain and free choice hay plus a supplement and apples, carrots. She did very well till just 6 mos and then she lost a significant amt of weight and now looks as if she is 9 months pregnant not 6. The vet has seen her, she's been wormed, teeth floated and fecal ok. We 've upped her grain a bit , but I'm afraid to give her too much in case she founders. I'm most worried about the size of the baby as it seems to be getting larger by the day!! Does anyone have any experience with pony mares, as this is a first time for both of us?
 

Sandy
Posted From: 67.31.172.107
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No experience with ponies, but I do have experience with miniatures.
I have a mini mare who looks like she is going to have a foal that is way too big every year when she gets pregnant. And every year, she foals with no problems.
Usually a mare will not have a foal bigger than what she is capable of delivering. Some maiden mares will look extremely big with their first pregnancy. And then you have some that don't even look like they're pregnant at all. You say that your mare is quite delicate in her shape, so that could be why you are noticing such a huge difference in her appearance making it look as though she is carrying a really big foal. The smaller mares always look much bigger during their pregnancies than will a very large, long bodied mare. The foal just seems to take up more space in the smaller, more refined, delicate looking mares.
Just keep following the advice of your vet and I'm sure that everything will be just fine.
 

loriannbuck
Posted From: 67.74.104.137
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just purchased a foaling video called foaling fundamentals. it mentioned to gently rub your mares nipples to desensitise them. would this help?
 

Sandy
Posted From: 64.157.21.154
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, it does help to have your mare familiar with something getting near her nipples in preparation for the foal. But, a lot of mares will be really uncomfortable with you touching them for the first time, so just be careful. With some gentle persuasion and patience on your part you should be able to touch them before too long. Start out with rubbing her tummy just in front of her udder and then gently work your way back to the udder. When she foals her nipples will probably be pretty sensitive at first because her bag will be full and therefore kind of touchy. Some maiden mares will squeal when the foal first nurses, because it does kind of hurt.
But the more you can get her used to something being in that area, the better off it will be for her when the foal is born.
 

lisa
Posted From: 216.166.197.113
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy, or anyone that can help
I went out to check my mare and noticed tha her rectum is sunk in what does this mean? and is it anything to be worried about? thanks
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.172.125
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
How far along is your mare? Is she anywhere near her due date?
It could be that her rectum is looking sunken in to you because her pelvis is starting to loosen up in preparation for foaling. This can occur anywhere from a month to a week or so prior to foaling.
Some mares get noticeably sunken in around their tail and others just get kind of soft to the touch, kind of like "jello butt". LOL
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
thanks. my mare is a week and a half form her due date.also still a little undder change but not much i am starting to get worried.she was on fescu hay for her first 6-7 months befor i found out from my hay person that the hay i was getting was 100 persent fescu i called the vet and changed her hay. I hope this is not the cause of the hay. should i be worried?
thanks lisa
 

Sandy
Posted From: 205.187.220.121
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
Fescue hay can prolong pregnancies, restrict milk production and cause a thicker sac around the foal, but hopefully you changed her hay soon enough to prevent all of this from happening.
If you're really worried about her, then you should call and speak to your vet again, but more than likely he is going to tell you that your mare is a maiden so therefore, it will be pretty much a waiting game.
But considering your mare was on fescue for so long, it just might be worth it to have another chat with your vet.
My friend has a maiden mare whose due date was 4 days ago, and she still has hardly any udder development at all, and she was never on fescue. So....it's really hard to say with maidens what's going on.
Just try not to stress too much, foaling time can be really trying on us as owners. But honestly, if you're really worrying, a talk with your vet might help you to relieve some of your worries.
Hang in there :-)
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks,
I will talk to my vet. but I think you are right because she told me before that if the milk is not there when the foal in born I can give her a call and she will come right out. thanks for the info .
lisa
 

lisa
Posted From: 216.166.197.66
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
I have a question just today I was out looking at my mare and noticed that she has a lump on the side of her heck it is about the size of a soft ball and has a little round dot in the middle of it what could this be? mybe something from being in foal? i am going to call the vet as soon as they open but what do you think. it looks all most like when you get a bee sting and the round circle comes up with the stinger in the middle. thanks lisa
 

Jos
Posted From: 137.186.22.89
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds more like an abcess or an allergic reaction, so your bee-sting hypothesis may not be too far off...
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.165.3
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
What did your vet say? It does kind of sound like a bee sting to me tho...but you just never know.
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok first what is hypothesis? and I looked around the barn this morning and saw 3 yellow jackets. they are very big black and yellow bees. so I think that is what they are. they where hanging around where she eats her hay. so it prob. is a bee sting.
thank lisa
 

Kristin
Posted From: 68.81.164.242
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
My mare gets a reaction like that from mosquito bites. Usually they go down in a day or two, but sometimes the vet needs to give her an anit-histamine.
 

Anonymous
Posted From: 137.186.22.201
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hypothesis: a proposal intended to explain certain facts or observations.
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kristin,
I called and talked to the vet she said just to watch it and make sure it doesn't get any biger she was just afraid the it might be strangles. to keep a wash cloth on it to draw a sringer if in fact it was a bee. I wish she would just have that baby so i can get some sleep. talk soon lisa
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SANDY/Kristin
The lump on my mares neck is gone. But I would like to know my mare has diarea why would she have this? would it be from the hay? please let me know. thanks lisa
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.172.133
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
It could be any number of things that could be causing her stool to be loose.
A lot of mares will get loose stool (like a cowpie) a day or two before foaling.
Just keep an eye on her and don't let it go for too long without consulting your vet.
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
I seen that your mare had her foal congradulations.I am still waiting for my mare to foal. no real change in her milk bag she is doing a lot of but pushing the night before and lastnight she would pin her ears and kick plus get up and down a lot and a little but pushing I hope it wont be long Iam getting realy sleepy wait for her well talk soon lisa
 

Anonymous
Posted From: 209.216.171.74
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI WE HAVE A PONY THAT WE JUST FOUND OUT IS BRED. I THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST OVER WEIGHT AND HAD BEEN WATCHING HER DIET, THEN SHE STARTED BAGGING UP. THE LAST OWNER SAID SHE DID GET LOOSE A FEW TIMES AND THEY HAVE A 15.2 QUARTER HORSE STALLION. THE PONY IS ABOUT 11 HANDS.SHE IS A 4 YEAR OLD MAIDEN MARE. DOES ANYONE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH PONY FAOLING AND WHAT SIGNS TO WAQTCH FOR?
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.252.184
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I foal out miniature mares, not ponies, but the signs for impending foaling are no different than it is for any other horse.
Look around at some of the other posts and I'm sure you'll find some suggestions for things to watch for....enjoy your new addition!
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
My mare still has not had her foal. has been have labor pains for the last 3 nights I called the vet today she said it is nothing to be worried about as long as she is going to the bathroom ok. she also said she should not go much longer with all the signs she is having.she is not eating every good up and down all night kicking and looking at her sides. how much longer can she go and still have all signs of labor? I am getting realy worried but the vet said it is normal for her to be over due by 17 days and what she is doing is normal for a maiden mare. what do you think . thanks lisa
 

Janet George
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mmm - while it is normal for a maiden mare to be uncomfortable for several weeks before foaling (some foals are quite lively in there) I would be concerned if she was showing PROPER labour over a protracted period. A bit of kicking at her belly and looking at it is often just a sign that foal is kicking, but if she is getting down and showing signs of trying to deliver the foal without any sign of progress then I would be a bit more worried.

They can certainly go over by 17 days - a friend's mare has just produced a healthy foal a year and one week after mating.
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes she spends a lo of time down it seams. a couple of times I know she was pushing but her water did not break and she has been rolling. i am not to worried about being over as much as her being down and lot and it seams that with all the ups and downs pasing and a little pushing that she would or should have had it by now. maybe tonight.
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.133.190
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gosh Lisa, I bet you are just going crazy! The time to call your vet is if your mare seems completely distressed and in pain and just doesn't seem to know what to do. As Janet said in her post, it is not uncommon for mares to seem somewhat umcomfortable several weeks prior to foaling. But if you can see that she is in ACTIVE labor, up and down constantly, rolling very frequently, acting as though she needs to urinate but doesn't, things like that, and this goes on for longer than a few hours, then it is time to have your vet come out for sure.
But with the signs your mare is showing, it does sound like it shouldn't be much longer.
Have you checked her milk?
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
yes i have checked her milk she does not have much of it but it is slitly yellow and sticky.and yes I am about going crazy and very sleepy.
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.243.128
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Lisa,
Have you had a baby yet?
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
No still no baby yet I did get it to move last night and she was doing alot of tail up losts of getting up and down and rolling. I think it wont be to much longer i hope. talk soon lisa
 

Sheila
Posted From: 66.140.214.185
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getting back to the making foaling easier for maiden mares. Massaging the udders and nipples is a big help. Getting her used to any touching in that area. Also, there is a crack between the two sides of the udder that gets kind of a sticky oily substance in it. If you can get a mare to stand still for long enough to put some gel that is used for a sheath cleaner in stallions and geldings and clean that area out, she will love you forever and wait for you to clean it out again. Many times you need to hold the mare for the foal when they are a little nervous about it. I have never had any problem with a maiden mare not accepting a foal, but I know a lot of people do.
One thing that I have found is a big problem with some people. Every one they know wants to come over and see the new foal right after it is born or be there when it is born. The mare, especially with her first foal, needs a quiet place with people she knows and trusts around.
Keep us posted on your mare.
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
Hi! just an up date my mare is 366 days now and I took her to the vet last week and the vet sais baby is fine and everything seams to be ok.She said we will wait till monday and if she has not had it and the baby is turned in the correct position then she said we can induce labor. What is your thoughts on this?
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.133.218
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Lisa,
There are a lot of things that need to be considered before inducing labor in a mare. It isn't so much that the foal is in position, but the mare's body has to be ready also.
For instance, the mare has to have milk, the cervix has to be relaxed, there are just so many things that can go wrong with inducing a mare.
I had a mare that didn't foal until 375 days one year. I had my vet check her at day 372, and I had asked him about inducing her. He said that every time he had ever seen a mare induced it was a "train wreck". So, I take that to mean that it just was not a good thing to be doing.
As long as your vet says that everything is looking good with your mare and foal, I WOULD NOT induce labor!! There are mares that have gone to 400 days before foaling, and both mare and foal were fine. That baby will come when the time is right!
Just hang in there!
 

lisa
Posted From: 65.216.70.62
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sandy,
thanks for the advice. my mare had her baby friday afternoon and i missed it. But I lost the Baby on Sunday I am not sure of what. talk soon lisa
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.252.23
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
I am so sorry to hear about your foal :-(
 

Tiffany
Posted From: 64.12.116.22
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I purchased a Cremello maiden mare about a couple of months ago.She is pregnant and was supposedly due in June.We had the vet come out about the last of June and he said everything was ok.Well recently Iv been noticing alot of uncomfortableness,Sweating in the flanks,cervix is relaxed,And her belly is as big as a barn.She is also kept with a 4yr old filly,a few days ago they got along great,now The cremello mare just does not tolerate her.I also milk her and it is always a clear yellowy color/Iv foaled out two mare prior to this mare.But both were not maidens.Any advice?
 

Ronda Hulon
Posted From: 66.207.237.222
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a maiden mare that is 225 days along now. She is bred to my black BLM Mustang stallion. The vet came out today and says she cant even tell she is pregnant. I can though..she is significantly heavier, she hasn't come in heat since May, and theres a lot of movement in her belly. I also just noticed that her udders feel a little bit bigger than they did. This is my first pregnant mare. Does all of this sound ok? Thanks
 

Sonya Stevahn
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 4 year old Maiden mare. She is roughly 330 days. Her bag was slightly filling at night and going down during the day. Now it doesn't seem to change at all. Her rump is sunk in soft and flabby all over. Vulva is elongated and starting to get puffy. She is also very soft on the backs of her legs near her vulva. I found the "mold spots" little white dots on her teats last week and after washing her udder they have not returned. She also has had some slight bloody discharge once last week and again today (seemed to be a bit more today than last week.) I am a paranoid first timer who is still in college and definitely an overprotective mommy. LOL. Can anyone tell me what ball park I am in? weeks or months? Thanks to any who can help.
 

S Smith
Posted From: 65.118.224.162
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The average for any mare is 340 days, so I would say you are fairly close. A maiden mare may not have a bag change until just before or even after foaling, so I wouldn't count too much on that. The softening around the tailhead and the elongated vulva is more indicative. My guess is that you are only days (not weeks or months) away from getting a foal! JMHO Sandy
 

Sonya
Posted From: 64.12.116.13
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Sandy!!
I got goose bumps reading the "days" part.
Friday is a full moon, maybe maybe.
 

Liz Thomas
Posted From: 66.52.142.7
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought an almost 3 year old mare that is going to foal very soon. She was "accidentaly" bred before her 2nd b-day so I was told. She is a shetland bred to a shetland. My question is, are there any particular problems with madien mares so young? She is and has been mentally mature for such a youngster, I have older ponies that act like yearlings!!!!
 

Jesse
Posted From: 24.16.247.187
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 15 year old maiden mare that at 320 days has shown every sign of impending birth except the milk color change. She is totaly bagged up and softened up in the rear and tail. She has even been waxed up for three days. Should I be staying with her on Friday because of the full moon? Or am I just anticipating things that won't happen for a while? I am going nuts!!!
 

TX Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.60
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They can drive you nuts! If you are worried, then by all means stay with her.
 

Sonicfrost
Posted From: 205.188.116.13
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Generally, do maiden mares have smaller foals? My mare is 282 days along, and was palpated yesterday (she is not showing much) and the vet said the foal is smaller than she expected it would be. Should I worry?
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.228.252.3
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sometimes a maiden's first foal will be a tad smaller, but not a whole lot.
You just might want to re-check your breed dates to see if she really is 282 days or could she possibly be not that far along?
 

TX Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.147
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea their first foals can be smaller, especially if it is a filly. I find that more often than not it is this way.
 

arabian3 (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.220.176.134
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



I have a maiden arab/QH mare that is 12mnths to this day,she has a half filled bag,dropped at the croup and dropping further in her flanks every day I am going nuts watching her hoping shes gets closer to foaling,even though shes 12mnth shes not getting a bigger bag,it just isnt any-where near hard yet.She does have a small plug in one teat,I thought that only showed when they where closer??
Any advise to a similar situation would be great.
Thanks
 

Cathy
Weanling
Username: Cathy

Post Number: 48
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would suggest having her preg checked. Sounds like she could have lost her foal at some time during her pregnancy. I went through the same thing. My mare was just fat enough to have fat in her udder. She was open even though I would have, and did swear she was in foal and showing.
 

Beverly Outlaw
Weanling
Username: Outlawpaints

Post Number: 42
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Arabian3,
Is this mare on fescue by any chance? If she is then that would be why she does not have a big bag yet. Also the long gestation.
She is a maiden mare too so keep that in mind. They don't always read the book or look at the calendar! LOL. If you feel uncomfortable about it, maybe you should get the vet out to check her. lots of mares will not fill up the udder until they are actually having the foal. Can you express any liquid out of her teats? (very carefully of course) they say mares go longer in the fall so just keep your fingers crossed and try not to worry too much, but if something is telling you to get the vet, then by all means call them out there. It would be better to call the vet out and have them say everything is fine rather than why didn't you call sooner. Good Luck! And keep us posted...
 

LRidgeway
Yearling
Username: Laurie

Post Number: 60
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had something similar 2 years ago, mare went 384 days...she had very little bag (which I was told can be common in these cases and the foal was supplemented with foallac)...

The foal was also born incredibly thin (we ended up naming her pokey, since all of her bones just about poked out of her skin)...

I wouldn't worry too much, but do be prepared with some supplemental feed on hand as well as a blanket if it's cold at night (in case the foal has no body fat).

We also had to pick this little filly up and set her on her feet for the first 36 hours as her legs were just so long she couldn't get up on her own - once she was up she would stay up for hours, but didn't have the strength/ability to stand on her own.
 

arabian3 (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.220.176.72
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all,
Thanks for the replies,
My mare has a half filled bag its seems to have moved around to LOOK more like a proper bag,her teats where more to the middle and bent towards the inside now they are both pointing down.I have watched Tilly all during her pregnancy,seen movement ect in the last few days she has got very grumpy with ears back while out in the paddock,her vulva is also swelling and elogated.
If she doesnt pop within the next week Im taking her to the vet.
Will keep you updated.
Thanks
 

arabian3 (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.220.176.72
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi me again,
I have looked at pictures of fescue grass I dont think shes eating any,I live in Victoria Australia and my partner has said we have phylaris grass seeded with rye grass,???
Im pretty sure shes okay but Im going stir crazy just with the waiting..ha ha ??
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 144.138.75.73
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey okay i dont no who's gonna read this. well anyhows i have this mare who's havin her first foal and its my first foal too. we actually not postive she will foal so i was wondering if there are any visible signs that u can see to see if she is going to foal and anyway to tell when?

cheers
 

windy fillmore
Nursing Foal
Username: Windyf

Post Number: 17
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the mare is bred do you know how far along she might be? Usually around 7/8 month you can start to feel the foal kick, place your hand on the belly in between the flank and the udder you have to be patient( it's kind of like fishing)and just wait. Sometimes you can give a slight quick push.
the best time to do this is when the mare is eating. hope this helps.
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 144.138.77.99
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks so much, she still hasnt foaled but i think she is getting close. we arent sure when she got in foal cause our friend who put her with his stallion cant remember when but we are hoping its not too far away
 

Terri Berwanger
Weanling
Username: Terrib

Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a maiden with a very minimal bag and she is at 305 days today. To be honest she never even really looked pregnant until last week. Have felt baby moving often and all seems well, but now she is going off her food a bit and she is too quiet for her. Kind of like feeling sorry for herself. She still has loads of tail resistance and not very jelloie around the tail head. I don't like her going off her feed. She gets fed 4 small meals a day instead of 2 big ones. I am not use to mares going off their feed, mine always eat the house down! My more experienced mare has a foal and straight away wonders where her meal is-can't let having a foal get in the way of eating! Anyway, we have no other active signs of impending foaling so should I be concerned about her not eating? Also, how long do they do this before foaling?
Thanks
Terri
 

Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 260
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Terri,
Last year I had a mare go off feed and talked with the vet about it. Their feelings as long as things were still passing that the foal was impinging on the organs wich is common at this point in the game. Now mine did it the week prior to foaling --never done it before with any other foal. Small meals are good and even more hay than grain they suggested as well. Just make sure that she continues to have bm's.
 

Jenn Van Horsen
Nursing Foal
Username: Jennuwynn

Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just like humans, every preggie mare is different!

I find that it is no different between maidens and experienced old mares except we are less nervous about the whole process! LOL

As far as the look of the belly, shorter backed ponies and horses will look bigger, and longer backed ones will hide it more ... smaller ponies like my welsh Section A look like a cow when they are in foal, they are huge from when they start showing, and keep that up until right bfore they foal, because then they look like they ate the sire!
Hahahah isn't foaling season great??
Jenn :-)
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 144.138.77.245
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how long do mares drip or wax before foaling and wat other signs can be seen directly before foaling?
 

taunya manney
Neonate
Username: Patientlywaiting

Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have a maiden mare that is 6 years old and im about to go nuts waiting on her to foal. i had her boarded at a facility and they accidently bred her and we arent sure of the dates, she is starting to bag up and i can express milk from her but it is clear and sticky, she has been pawing at the ground and rolling in her stall and ive noticed alot of mud on her butt. she has also picked up the habit of cribbing and has been acting really silly like licking my arms and stuff when i visit her at the barn , it is so funny. are these signs of impending foaling? thanks, taunya
 

Joanna
Yearling
Username: Joanna

Post Number: 85
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When a mare is showing signs of being uncomfortable, it does mean that she is getting closer in that she is feeling the baby alot, and it is just bothering her. Keep checking her milk, it will go through lots of stages, but when it is runny and opaque, she is getting really close. Look around these boards for more things to watch for. Without the help of everyone on this site, I think I would have no clue about this whole foaling business!
Joanna



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