Hi, I am breeding my 13 year old qh maiden mare to a thoroughbred stallion. I will use the AI way to get her pregnant. I need to know the total cost in AI and breeding and foaling (including vaccinations and vet bills and others) My horse is not shod. I would like all of the information I could get. Thank you for your time.
Celia
ELizabeth Hardy (12.38.198.125)
Posted on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 10:13 am:
CEILA.. There aree alot of variables to consider
You are using AI okay
you will have a 200-300 deposit on the Equitainer that willbe refunded upon returnof Equitainer
collection chargers vary from75-200 per colltection.
then there is you stud fee.
if the Mare is shipped to the Stallions farm you will not need an equitainer but be charged Mare care per every day she is there 10-20$ per day
there are also the charges your vet will charge to inseminate and ultrasound/palapate Hope that helps
Jess (142.166.249.19)
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 10:10 am:
Don't forget the shipping charge for the container, also. I found my biggest expense was in the ultrasounding ($150 each time) and the breeding ($200 for two inseminations for each shipment). I had $4000 into one mare last year- no baby.
ELizabeth Hardy (12.38.198.125)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:24 am:
Jess Who did your ultrasounds ? 150$ sounds High. I only paid 30$ for my ultrasounds and that was per month not per ultrasound.. so it looks like I got a deal.
My mare was ultrasounded several times a month - we had trouble getting her pregnant until we trialed her on Regumate and kept her on regumate..
So that is also a possible expense which added an extra 1500$ to my mare pregnancy costs.. but I was lucky She delivered a healthy Filly last Sept.
I am sorry that after you spent so much money you still had no baby.. hope you have better luck this year
Jess (207.179.149.15)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:22 pm:
Thanks. It was disappointing, but I have learned quite a bit by the experience! We are rural NB, Canada, and yes, have to pay that amount PER visit! I can travel to a vet lab an hour and a half away, but only slightly cheaper, and I still have the "board" to pay....sooo this year, I am toying with driving my mare the 10 hours to the farm where the stud is standing. Think that will end up costing me more????? I am interested in finding out more about Regumate. I didn't know it could be used prior to conception.
Tracy (152.163.189.231)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:54 pm:
It cost me $100 to $125 per time for my ultrasounds also. I did live cover so I had to pay the $1000.00 breeding fee and then $12.00 a day mare care (I had 2 mares there so double all these expenses) It was slightly less expensive to board my mares for about a week than pay all the collection costs and shipping of the semen. Either way, it's very expensive to breed in general! Jess, one of my mares did not conceive either so I feel for you, all the money and no foal!
Jess (207.179.149.15)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 06:37 pm:
I didn't mention that I do have another, older mare who I did get caught with AI from the same stallion. It took two breedings- I was told by the vet from two different ultrasounds that she was definitly in foal (but no heartbeat she could see), then was in a standing heat four days later!!! The vet was shocked when I called to say my gelding was trying to mount her over the fence, and that I was ordering more semen. She did not believe me till she came and re-ultrasounded and found a 4.5 follicle. She must have seen a cyst earlier??? So, nature being wonderful, she was bred and caught. I had her checked at 50 days. Everything fine. One fetus and a heartbeat!! That deal only cost me $1200, so it did soften not getting my other mare in foal!
ELizabeth Hardy (12.38.198.125)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 07:45 pm:
JESS Regumate is basically artifical progesterone.. reportedly it helps maintain pregnancy ( though there is not scientific proof as to why) It is also thought to assist in regulation of the mares estrus cycle, so prediction of ovulation and AI can be more successfull.
I can ask my breeder for more details if you want.
My Mare was maiden and her cycles were not regular or very easy to detect without ultrasound.
Jess (142.166.232.121)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:01 am:
Elizabeth, that would be wonderful! As you can tell, information is not easy to come by where I live. I have only noticed my mare in heat twice in the past year, although according to ultrasound, she was cycling, but not large follicles. At times, they were breeding on follicles that were starting to shrink (3.5 to 2.6?). Were they even viable, I wonder???
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 05:33 pm:
Hi, I am breeding a maiden mare that is 12 Years Old. Half QH/TB. My vet is going to pay the vet stuff, so I will have no vet bills (I work for the vet). I am breeding with frozen semen. I need to know the total cost of that. Would I still have to pay the stud fee, or do I just pay per dose of the frozen semen. Thanks.
Jos
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 08:39 pm:
It varies. You will have to contact the owner or manager of the stallion you are looking at breeding to. Note that if you buy by the straw, there is usually no live foal guarantee.
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 10:24 pm:
So you would not have to pay the stud fee? Is that what I need to ask the stallion owner? I know that there is no LFG.
Jos
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 11:48 pm:
You will either pay a stud fee or buy by the straw or insemination dose.
In other words, you would pay (say) a $2,000 stud fee, which might carry a live foal guarantee (such as is common in live cover or cooled transported semen situations, but not so common with the use of frozen semen); or you would buy by the insemination dose - say $2,000 for the insemination dose - which may include a single straw of semen, or may require more than 1 straw (depends mostly on straw size). If this latter situation is the case, you may end up paying (again say) $500 per straw but need 4 straws for an insemination dose if using 0.5 ml straws.
Bottom line? You pay a stud fee of some sort, but may have reduced guarantees.
So: read the fine print in the contract before signing it!
Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 08:14 am:
The frozen semen per dose is $250 with 8 straws. How many doses do you recomend for getting? I have to get in contact with my stallion owner! Thanks guys, you all have been a really big help!
Jos
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 01:08 pm:
Clarify the exact wording here with the stallion owner. $250 for the entire insemination dose seems a low price if it requires 8 straws. It may be the case, but I would be concerned that the cost is $250 per straw - i.e. $2,000 for the insemination dose.
If this is not the case, and it truly is $250 for the entire insemination, it will make your life a lot easier, and quite possibly save you money in the long run, if you get at least 2 insemination doses, so you can try and breed pre- and post-ovulation. You can then use a timed insemination protocol such as is described on the Select Breeders Services web site, available by clicking here which will save you expense associated with frequent palpations or ultrasounds.
Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 06:35 pm:
Hi, I have been trying to get in contact with the stallion owner that the stallion I am interested in, but she has not yet returned any of my emails only last month. I think I will need to contact them by phone. Do you think looking at this website might help to see if it is $250 for the entire insemination? Go to htt://www.goldhopefarm.com and enter, and then click the contract...and that's the contract, what do you think?
Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:56 am:
I got a reply from the stallion owner and she said "The $250/dosen is the entire fee." What do yall think?
Rachel
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 03:55 pm:
Hi I use regumate to short cycle my mares, so that I cut down on unexpected costs of breeding. I usually put the mare on regumate for 14 days, starting on a friday. the friday after the regumate days(15th day) I give the mare a shot of progesterone to make them cycle. they generally will ovulate the following week on tues or wednesday. So take the mare to the vet office on mon. they check her tues,and the last two times, bred on wednesday, checked the mare again to make sure she ovulated, before I picked her up. This way I only have minimal ultrasounds(my vets all charge $30 each for them) and it is so much easier on everyone: timing the semen shipments, making sure they are in foal at 14 days etc. Saves me alot of money! learned to do this the hard way! spent way too much money trying to follow the mares cycles the year before.
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Jess, one of my mares did not conceive either so I feel for you, all the money and no foal! 
