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QUARTER QUEEN (204.189.92.152)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 - 05:02 pm: | 
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What would happen if one of my colts bred a yearling mare of ours? We dont have a yearling filly, but I have to ask. Could she have a normal pregnancy and birth, or would the foal be in danger? I am new @ all this breedin' stuff, so could U help me out?
THANKS A LOT!!! |
Karen (216.64.203.139)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 10:47 am: |
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I am a little confused. Do you have reason to believe that your colt (how old is he?) bred a yearling? If so, no yearling should be pregnant - it's too much on her young body. If you think that a yearling may indeed have been covered by your colt, I would consult with a veterinarian, find out what the filly's pregnancy status is, then if she IS in foal, discuss what the options are. If it were my filly, I would abort the pregnancy, unless it were so far along that to do so would pose a risk to the filly - at least a risk equal to or greater than trying to have a baby when she herself is still a baby. |
Kelly (63.172.47.223)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 11:06 am: |
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Karen is right, it should be checked into right away. The yearling will leach from her own growing systems to provide for a baby.
Even if there were no complications that you could see, the damage to the skeletal growth etc., of the mother may be far reaching. The result may well be two less than adequate animals. Often times, stunted growth, poor bone density, all can have a major impact on the viability of a riding animal.
Depending on the individual, I personally do not breed a mare until 4 years of age. Many 12 year old human girls can conceive, but it is not the best of situations for many reasons. Same thing for a horse. |
QUARTER QUEEN (208.23.115.188)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 04:21 pm: |
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No i dont have a filly but my neighbor's filly got out of her pen into ours. We keep two yearling colts in this pasture area. But, the filly was checked today, and is NOT pregnant. PRAISE THE LORD! we have decide to keep the stud colts in a pasture far away because our neighbors (not the ones with the filly) children like to go in the fence and open the gate from the filly's pastureand then open ours. We have told these kids and their parents not to come see the horses when we aren't there.
thanks |
Anonymous (216.209.108.156)
| | Posted on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 05:36 pm: |
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Hi
We had to give some of our yearling fillies a shot of prostiglandin, 1/2 cc, because we split them up only a few months ago and one of our colts was getting randy. I was told by a prominent breeder that the protocol for this is 1/2 cc IM depending on the size, maybe slightly more for a larger one. It will cause the mare to resorb the possible embryo if it is given before the endometrial cups have formed(around 42 days). Ask your vet though. |
Anonymous
Posted From: 216.180.176.41
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:25 am: |
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hi I have a yearling philly she has spent all winter in a pen with my my best friends stud colt which is only a few weeks younger than my philly,we knew it was time to seperate the two and this weekend they were caught together? what are the chances of my philly being pregnant? Should I wait to see if she cycles again or should I take care of the situation as soon as possiable.I know it is not good for my developing philly I just don't want to wait until it is too late. Thanks signed very worried.} |
Kim k
Yearling
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 68
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:18 am: |
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If you don't want to take the chance then consult with your vet. Sooner is better than later, a yearling filly may not be cycling normal anyways, unless you have written down dates and have seen privious cycles to know this information and know if she is cycling on a regular basis. Alot of times the first few times will be unsuccessful BUT it can happen resulting in a foal.
Kim |
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 199.3.209.171
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:41 pm: |
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Your vet can give her a series of shots(one, maybe 2) to bring her back into estrus and effectively end any impending pregnancy.
This is not very expensive, and is given in the muscle. She may sweat and be uncomfortable for 20 min. or so. It is not painful other than that, and she will return to normal within the hour.
It will not effect future breeding. You will want to do so within 5-10 days of the suspected breeding date.I would error on the side of caution with this situation and make sure she is not bred. |
Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 69.196.103.102
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:50 pm: |
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Another way for the vet to check is to see if the hymen is still present. If it's still there you should be OK, but if not she should have the shots TX Breeder mentioned. |
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 199.3.209.171
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 02:57 pm: |
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The shots may be more cost effective as they can be given in the muscle by the owner. |
Sandra K. Kidder
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Username: Sandysz
Post Number: 8
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 05:48 pm: |
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Hi,
If the shot that you are talking about is a Lutylase (spelling) shot. Please, be sure to stay with her and watch her. Not only will this shot make her sweat and bring her back into estrus, it just about put my mare on the ground with the cramping. It was horrific, she would go up on her back tiptoes and then almost collapse with the cramping. If it is the lutylase it could bring on colic, and you should keep a close eye on her for a couple of hours. Good luck Sandy |
Kim k
Yearling
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 71
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 06:36 pm: |
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My guess, it is lutylise(sp) as the first twenty minutes can be hard on a mare(and it owner !) Normally lutylise will make a horse sweat profusely.
Kim |
Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 69.196.103.102
| | Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:43 pm: |
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Yes, Lutylase can cause colic symptoms, but in most cases it just causes sweating. Someone definitely needs to be around though, just in case. It is also given subcutaneous. |
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 199.3.209.95
| | Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 01:27 pm: |
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I assume that you will be using your vet, or at least getting the Lutalyse from the vet. This is considered a safe and efficient protocol in breeding animals.
Lutalyse can mimic colic,(sweating and cramping)but will pass. Make sure that it is given in the cool of the day, not directly before or after feeding and not if the mare is hot, or upset in any way. All should go well.
It is recommended to be given IM |
Jos
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Username: Jos
Post Number: 10104
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 09:48 pm: |
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A better solution with respect to side-effects produced by PGF2a (Lutalyse, Prostin, Estrumate etc.) is to instead of using a single full dose, use one-tenth (so typically 0.1 or 0.2 ml depending upon product used and size of the horse) of the dose two days in a row. This will induce estrus in the same manner as the full dose, but eliminate the side effects. |
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 199.3.209.119
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 04:23 pm: |
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This is a good method to use if you can give the shots yourself, and you won't have to watch the side effects. (ask your vet to split the dose so that you can give the shots). That way you won't have to pay for two vet visits. |
renee (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.49.156.183
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 07:38 pm: |
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Hi,
I have a 10month old colt and a 8month old filly in the same pasture. I was wondering when should i seperate them? They are the greatest of friends, so im really not looking forward to it, but if i rearrange a few things, i have a couple of smaller yards that are along side eachother, so they could still be on opposite sides of the fence. They are showing absolutely no interest in eachother at the moment, (other than being best buddies) but when would the colt become fertile?
Any input would be great. Thanks |
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 207.200.116.11
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:00 pm: |
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Could be right about last night. No, seriously, it could happen any time now. I wouldn't push the issue. Now is a good time to give them separate yards! |
Jos
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Username: Jos
Post Number: 10117
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:12 pm: |
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Both colts and fillies may be sexually mature any time from 9 months of age onwards. It is unlikely at 9 months, but it has been seen. Therefore unless you have determined that neither is sexually mature, once they reach that age, you should be separating them. |
Renee (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.49.156.193
| | Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:10 am: |
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Jos,
Ok, thanks, that answers my question. I really dont think either are sexually mature yet, but better safe than sorry!! I will do some rearranging this weekend and seperate them! Thanks again |
Renee (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.49.156.193
| | Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:12 am: |
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TX Breeder,
Sorry i somehow missed your post then! Thanks to you to! I will be seperating them this weekend.. not chancing any pregnant fillies!! |
TX Breeder (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 207.200.116.11
| | Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 11:45 pm: |
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Good idea Renee. Even if they are not both sexually mature injuries my occur during any "practice" sessions. Also, STD's can be transmitted between practice partners. |
