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Equine-Reproduction.com Bulletin Board » Pregnant Mare and the Newborn Foal - Volume 1 » Labor signs... « Previous Next »


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Briana
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare is due today, her first foal, and I was just wondering how much warning can I be expected to have? I have a camera set up for watching her 24 hours, but I have these visions of going out for an hour and coming home to a foal. I know that stuff like that has happened, but isn't that more likely to happen with "experienced" mares. I have checked her milk, but it seems it was opaque yesterday morning, and even moreso last night. She spent time yesterday rubbing her rear against the wall and I can see she is uncomfotable behind. For those of you that have foaled out a lot of mares, how much warning can I be expected to get on average and how can I ease her discomfort in these last days. Thx!
 

Horse Pro
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Briana I guess foaling 1300+ would qualify me to comment on this. You can expect anything from 10 minutes to a couple of hours warning when delivery is imminent. I have had mares, maidens and older mares who have been standing quietly showing no signs what so ever and have a foal on the ground in 10 minutes. That is why it is so important that as the mares gets closer to her time. Someone must be in attendance at all times. Not that you will need to do anything in terms of assistance. Just be available if needed, know when to assist and when to just watch.

As far as making her more comfortable in the last part of all this. A good clean bed of straw and plenty of hay and fresh water is about all needed to make her happy. Outside during he day in a clean paddock or corral where she will be comfortable, get a little exercise and not be bothered by other horses has always made my mares very happy.

Good luck and happy foaling.

HP
 

Briana
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Holiday had nice beautiful foal this afternoon at about 3 pm. Thank goodness for the camera in the barn, since if it were not for that, I might have missed it. She's a wonderful mother. It's about 30 degrees F. out there and supposed to drop to 25, so I put a blanket on him. I wasn't sure if he would be ok without it...any thoughts?
BTW, I'd be happy to send pics if anyone wants to see him.
 

Anonymous (12.27.205.15)
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2001 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, our mare was last bred on June 26,2000. Her bag is full, teats outward and full, croup dropped down very noticeable and vulva relaxed and swollen, milk is white when we milk it onto a black plastic lid as of last night and she rolls around occasionally and walks as if her back legs do not want to cooperate, or as if she is in pain. Any suggestions on how much longer, this is her first and ours as well.
 

Kelly (63.172.47.181)
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2001 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any night now! It sure sounds as if the time is near.

Watch her feed intake, she may slow down or not finish eating, the day or evening of foaling. Look for a change in her eating habits.

She is rolling to help position the foal for delivery. At this point, the foal can be putting pressure on internal organs and this can be quite uncomfortable for her.
 

Anonymous (12.27.205.15)
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, this is anonymous, from Sat, June 2, 2001 at 12:02pm. Our filly was born at 11:00p.m. Mom and baby are doing fine.
 

Kelly (63.172.47.224)
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congratulations! It's just as fun as Christmas!
 

Kelly (63.172.47.224)
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congratulations! It's just as fun as Christmas!
 

Peggy Hunter (206.228.14.1)
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As we do not live on our farm, we are not always there during foaling and just had a bad experience with the bag not breaking when the foal was born, therefore smothering the foal. Our question: should we be there when foaling is ongoing, should we assist the the breaking of the bag as soon as the head is exposed or should we wait until the foal is on the ground to offer assistance with the bag?
 

Jos (142.177.114.10)
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Attempts should always be made to ensure human presence at foaling. Although the vast majority of foalings progress without trouble, when trouble arrives, it is usually very quick to strike - as you now unfortunately know.

Generally, if the foaling has progressed normally, there is no need to break the fetal membrane until the foal is out of the mare and on the ground. As long as the umbilicus is still attached to the mare, the foal is receiving oxygenated blood through it. In the event however that there is an early placental separation, or that the fetal membranes have not ruptured around the foal's nose when the umbilicus separates, then yes - it is essential that the nasal passages be exposed by tearing the sack.

You perhaps would also be well advised to check for endophyte-infected fescue in your pastures or hay, as mares exposed to that will have a tougher fetal membrane and suffocation of the foal becomes not at all uncommon.
 

Joanna
Posted From: 216.47.53.198
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a couple of questions about my mare, Tiffany.
She is at 328 days now and she seems to be very agitated. She is still nice to me but she pins her ears and chases off the other horses in the pasture, and when they leave she whinnies for them like she has just been abandoned.
When they come back, the whole cycle starts over again. Does anyone know why she would do this?
Also, her bag is HUGE, but I can't get any liqued at all. She seems kind of like jell-o around her tale head, and her vulva is really swollen. The baby moves ALL THE TIME, and I can see it kick all the way up on her rump. Is all of this normal?
If you couldn't tell, this will be my first foal, but it is Tiffany's ninth, so I think she knows what she's doing. :-)
Anyway, any help is very appreciated.
 

Sandy
Posted From: 4.227.133.146
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joanna,
It all sounds very normal.
Horses are herd animals, so they do want the companionship, but at the same time, your mare also has the instinct to be protective, so that is why she is being ornery to the other horses.
Some mares won't "let down" milk until right before foaling, so that is probably the reason why you're not getting anything out of her. Sometimes it can be really hard to get anything at all until a few hours before foaling.
When you see the foal move up in her rump, what you are seeing is the foal practicing to be born! They will do stretching exercises and practice putting their legs into the birth canal.
As you say, this is your mare's ninth foal, so I'm sure she knows what she's doing, but it is always good to be on hand when the foaling occurs in case something does go wrong you can call the vet out immediately.
Good luck!
 

twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This whole Maiden mare thing has been making me crazy!! My mare is boarded so I will be sleeping in my truck watching her. I've read here and talked to my vet and confirmed there may be no signs of impending partuation with her. I'm starting to check her daily for any "signs". My "so far" plan is to start camping out with her at 340 days even if nothing is going on. I'm not sure if that's the most practical way but I don't know what else to do!!! Anybody else in this situation and if so, what are YOUR plans?
 

L&R Paints
Posted From: 12.149.186.66
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, we've done the check them every 2 hours, only to have my mare foal in the middle of the day, in between checks! We've slept out in the barn, freezing our butts off!! Not this year!

This year, I'm hoping to have a cam set up, so I won't disturb the mares. We are only 300', so we can get to the barn in seconds if we see anything suspicious. This year we have one maiden mare, and one on her 3rd. My maiden mare is at day 313 and already bagging. So hopefully she won't go long and make us suffer any more then necessary!
 

Suzanne
Posted From: 205.188.116.65
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

twgait: I tend to camp out even if it doesn't look like anything is going to happen at 340 days. Our first maiden this year was nice and went at 343 our other maiden wasn't so great and went at 363. Good Luck!
 

twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL Suzanne!! I'm praying I don't end up sleeping there for that long!! I'm hoping she'll just be very kind to her human and go right away. My barn buddy, who's gonna sleep there with me, is already backing out and saying she's not sleeping there for a month!! Can't say I blame her! That's good to hear, I'll stick with my plan to sleep there at 340 days, depending of course that there are no other changes.
 

twhgait
Posted From: 69.23.217.156
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

P.S.
Anybody know of a barn cam that will reach 10 miles??? LOL!!
L&R, we were thinking of getting a wireless cam and setting it up in my friends van which has a TV. But I'm thinking a baby monitor will be cheaper seeing as though I will be right outside the barn door!
 

Theresa
Posted From: 207.190.101.64
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare has been leaking milk off and on for going on 3 days now. If I so much as touch her she springs a leak!
I am getting concerned about losing all the colostrum. Her ligiments are totally relaxed now for those same 3 days. Vulva is elongated and enlarged.
I am praying it will be tonight finally, but if not would you induce her?
 

teb
Posted From: 194.125.180.39
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Theresa,
Collect the milk if you can and freeze it. Do not induce her, she will have foal when she is ready!
 

Joanna
Posted From: 216.47.50.81
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I posted about 10 days ago on this thread about my mare, Tiffany, and just wanted to tell you all that she had a beutiful little colt at around 5:00 this morning! Mom and baby are doing great, the vet came and said everything was normal. The baby is FAT, and Tiffany has enough colostrum to sink a ship. :-)
 

PaintedAcresFarm
Posted From: 209.226.89.35
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joanna ,

Thanks for sharing this great news , Congrats on the arrival of your new baby :-) Were still on marestare here ..UGH I hate the waiting game haah!

Again CONGRATS post photos when you can !
Virginia
 

Joanna
Posted From: 216.47.50.81
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I took a ton of pictures of him (couldn't help myself) and will try to get them up as soon as possible. He is just the cutest, sweetest baby ever, though I may be a bit jaded :-), his coloring is a sorrel tovero pattern and he is big! My little brothers named him Scooter, and it just so fits him, he scoots around that stall all the time, until he just gets so tired that he literally drops! He nurses every 2 to 10 minutes, and Tiffany is eating and drinking sooo much. He is all legs, and has this adorable stumbly walk right now, which is just too sweet. It is really rainy here in Montana, so I've got him in a foal blanket until the sun comes out, per the vet's orders because little Scooter was shivering a little too much, other than that mom and baby seem happy and healthy. :-)
 

Joanna (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 216.47.52.4
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, since the virus (or whatever it was) deleted the picture, here are some new one of Scooter and Tiffany.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/jediknight_114/scooterpic1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/jediknight_114/scooterpic4.jpg
And here is one of him looking adorable in his little blanket.(The paint in the background is one of my yearling geldings. He's almost as cute as Scooter!:-))
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/jediknight_114/scooterpic3.jpg
Joanna
 

Brandy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 67.141.191.32
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Mare is dripping discharge from her vulva, This has gone on for two days now. Does anyone know if this is a sure sign of labor?
 

Kim v.
Weanling
Username: Twhgait

Post Number: 26
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Brandy Could be a sign of placentitis and this can cause major problems for the foal and the mare....I suggest you call the vet asap and please post back and let us know what happened.
 

Brandy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 67.141.190.126
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kim thanks for your reply. This is my first time to ever go through this and I am very worried my mare is like my own child and I want to now as much as possible about what to expect.My husband has talked to our Vet, he says every thing is fine that she is very close she is well over her expected due date. If you have any good advise or anything I should look for please let me know. Also her bags are very full, I don't see how they could get any fuller. But like I said This is my first time so I am kinda in the dark here. My husband was raised with horses so he knows most everything there is to know. Nothing seems to ease my mind about this!
 

Brandy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 67.141.190.126
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kim, thanks for you reply. She is still doing this I have not contacted the vet. My husband talked to one and he said that she should be having it soon. He did not say anything about any problems,But now I am worried. Her bags are full and she is showing signs of discomfort,looks like she is trying to push maybe! She is also lying down for long periods at a time. As you can probably tell this is first mare in foal. My husband is going on about 25 years experience. But being a first timer I am very worrid!
 

Brandy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 67.141.190.126
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry about the doubles! I didn't think the first one went through.
 

Kim k
Yearling
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 55
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brandy,
the discharge could be a bloody type discharge from losing the muscus typ plug. It is a bloody show they call it. I would say you should be having baby soon. If not I would contact a vet for a checkup , maybe fri before the weekend and avoid a after hours call. But i bet you will see a foal soon.
Kim
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 199.198.254.100
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a 13 yr old maiden mare due to foal May 25. She has all the 'classic' signs that baby is well on it's way. Her utter is full and teats are streaming on and off; her vulva is large, swollen and decended. For 2 nights now she appears to go into labour ... appears to be in discomfort, pawing at the ground, off grain and hay, circling, biting and kicking at sides but yet no foal. We talked to vet yesterday who didn't seem too concerned about all this and slight discharge from vulva. Is it possible for her to be going into 'false labour' this often ? Any help anyone can offer would ease this first time 'gramma's' confused and very worried mind !
 

Kim k
Yearling
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 57
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI, on the due date what is that ? How did you figure it ... It is typical for a horse to go 11 months ten days.. 340 days or better some close to a year, many on this board seem to be in the 370 day mark, although we did our typical 343-348 days. I would be concerened if the grain and hay thing were more that a day or two. The foal could be squishing the intenstines and causing a blockage. Be care with that , make sure she is still having bowel movements and urinating as normal. Just becareful so that baby does not get wrapped up in the cord, if no progress is made and she is still of grain and hay, and the bowel movements come to a end I would question things. My mares normally foal within 24 hours of the milk streaming as they shift their weight. Just some things to think about , and question
Kim
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 199.198.254.100
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kim. We know the ETA only as we had her inseminated by the vet. I realise she's early to be showing these signs - hence my concern. She's not completely off all food, she IS eating, just in spurts (this after eating like ...well, like a horse ! for several days last week). She IS having regular bowel movements and urination. Last night both were more frequent, with the bowel movements very thin and runny (like a cow pattie) and only little amounts of urine, but again, very often. For the last couple of days she's been rubbing her backside up against the barn quite a bit, and she's taken to stetching out her neck and curl up her top lip. Not sure if these signs mean anything or not, but unusual for her.

One other question. She is in a paddock with another older baren female and has been for several months. They have a shelter to go into out the elements, and for the past month, we have been locking (has a sliding door) her in at night (while the other mare stands on guard at the door all night !). During the day they both roam free in the large paddock. Both go in and out all day long. Could allowing the other mare to go into her 'nest' at will, have something to do with her not foaling ? Could she be wanting her own space so to speak ? She doesn't seem bothered or concerned about the other mare in the shelter, with of without her. Just a thought.
 

Kim k
Yearling
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 58
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds to me like the foal is just cramping things inside. The vet told me this spring that the cow pattie like bowel movements is a good sign that the foal is laying on something and proper function is unlikely. With given time (and the best thing to happen is foaling)it should be ok, once the foal moves , or is born.

Hmm, My opinion is that the other mare is probabally fine, especially if they have been together for a while. Sometimes we seperater the mares out when they get real close to birthing, and sometimes you will notice them doing it themselves... standing alone alot etc. I would not worry about it if it seems to not be causeing a problem--- you will need to watch the situation after birth though, depending on both mares and their attuitudes and only you know them, not us. If the older mare is use to foals being around and not a possesive mare then you should be ok... Just keep a close eye so no one gets hurt or in the middle of things (the baby!) as baby will follow mom and sometimes a mare can get nasty trying to protect her baby and then baby gets hurt because of it.

Kim
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 199.198.254.100
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Further to my post of yesterday-
I'm very proud to announce the arrival of our first equine grandbaby! Our mare gave birth last night to handsome colt at 330 days. Born at about 11:20 last night, Thursday, May 19, 2005 (only 20 minutes after Momma's water broke) weighing in about 80 pounds and 40+" tall, with long gangly legs, 2 large white back socks and a white blaze on her nose. My daughter insists he’s going to be black (like his Mom and Dad) ... but for now, I call him a "grown" = kinda grey and kinda brown :-) His show name will be "Romantic Evening", with a barn name of TJ. His father is "A Fine Romance" a well known eventer from the Toronto area and his mother is our own baby "Eventide" (out of Evensong). Both Mommy and Baby are going great. My daughter is still grinning from ear to ear ... and “Grampa” can now finally get some sleep ! As for me ? well, what do I do now - start knitting baby blue pony blankets ? Quite the experience I tell ya. Think we have a future eventer on our hands here ! Pics will follow. Again, thank you all for your words of wisdom and encouragement.
 

Debbie Burnett
Yearling
Username: Horselady

Post Number: 64
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Becky had her first baby at 12:30am this morning. SHe is a beautiful little bay tobiano filly. Full of beans and bouncing around the stall this morning when I arrived to see her.

Just to compare notes, Becky showed absolutely NO signs of impending labour or foaling. I was out to see her Wednesday evening and .. nothing.

The foaling facility owner put Becky in the foaling stall yesterday, saying she was biting at her sides and she just had a hunch. She emailed me last night to say that she figured the birth would be in the next few hours. At 12:30 am this morning, "Paris" joined her momma.

I went out to see her this morning and Becky showed me her new baby. Paris was laying down in the stall, so I walked over and sat down beside her, scratching her ears and rubbing her warm fuzzy fur from one end to the other. She has a big white diamond of color that extends half way up her neck, down her back half way, and down each side to her "elbows" on both sides. She has 3 white hooves, one white sock, and two white boots, one black hoof so far.
She was up in minutes and bouncing around in the stall. Becky nickered softly to her and she stood under Becky's belly looking at me for the longest time before venturing out for a drink from Becky and a sniff at my camera. :-) Shes a sweetheart and of the 8 foals born this year at the facility, she is the first filly.
I will post some pictures when I get a chance, Photobucket doesnt like the ones the facility sent me by email, so I took a few thousand while I was there today and will post when I have a chance.

One more down off the mare stare ! Good Luck to the rest of those still waiting and watching. I'm done for this year !

Deb.

p.s. Hey ANonymous, how about knitting me a pink horsey blanket?
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 199.198.254.100
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, Everyone:
It's been (almost) a week since TJ arrived ... here's a link to some pics taken the following morning = 8 hours old. He's big and BAD ! He's escaped once, drinks Moms's water already, tipped her grain dish all over himself (so she couldn't get any since she kept pushing Mr. Curious away from it several times) and he's double leg kicked my daughter already. Other than that, he's a real angel .... when he's sleeping. I swear he's the Devil Child . But we love him to bits !

Presenting ... Romantic Evening aka "TJ"
http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kasey_young/photos/
 

Jaimie (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 209.215.22.82
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, my mare's expected due date is july 4th but today I noticed a dramatic change in the shape of her belly. There is a big bulge sticking out toward the back side of her belly underneath, and she dont look quite as wide as she was yesterday. At first I thought maybe the baby just changed positions, but it has been in the same position all day. I was wondering if maybe the baby was moving into position to be born and if It is normal. ANy suggestions would be very helpful.
 

Kay Baxter
Nursing Foal
Username: Kaykay

Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Be aware that a mare can really foal anytime during that last 30 days and be fine. I think your mare has probably dropped the foal into position or is getting it into position. Most people call it "slab sided" as the tummy starts to hang down instead of out the sides. Once you see a V shape to the belly the mare is pretty close. But i have had mares drop and not deliver for another 10 days. Good luck!!
 

Jaimie (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 209.215.22.186
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thaks a bunch for your help. Today I noticied a discharge comming from her backside, could this be a sign of impending delivery. I have been watching her and she hasnt statred to have wax on her teats or dripping milk. Could the discharge be a sign of her foaling tonight?
 

Kay Baxter
Nursing Foal
Username: Kaykay

Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it could be the mucus plug. I have only had one mare have wax and have never had a mare drip. Is her bag hard and hot?? Does it stay the same size all thru the day? thats a really reliable indicator. I bet shes pretty dang close :-)
 

Kim k
Yearling
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 91
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The discharge ? what color was it ?
Kay, could it be possible that you never had dripping milk due to the size of the mini's ? food for thought. I have a couple of mares that drip, and a couple that don't .... and dripping normally comes within 12-24 hours of birth. Waxing, some mares do some don't. And when a mare truely waxes, you see wax, it just does not plug the nipple holes, after the wax has started to form there can be a build up and looks like crystals hanging there . If the mare had a somewhat bloody/brownish discharge, I am sure you will have a baby in no more than three days :-)--- that is my experience.

good luck
Kim
 

amy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 66.191.94.48
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a maiden mare that is due around July 6th. She has been filling up for the past few weeks. She seems uncomfortable but i don't know for sure. She is tired during the day. I check on her a few times a day. I would like to know if anyone know about how close she is to foaling. Also, today she is in her 312th day of pregnancy if that helps anyone. Thanks.
 

Beverly Outlaw
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what does her bag look like? What does her vulva look like? I had a maiden mare who just had her baby 3 days ago who was due on May 5th and delivered on June 7th..... She started bagging up in February...My mare never bagged up fully, never dripped milk, never paced, never showed classic signs...just keep an eye on her as much as possible. You never know with Maiden's. Good Luck and Happy Foaling!!
 

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Her bag is really full in the mornings but during the day she walks some of it off. So then its about 2/3 of the way full. Her vuvla is a light pink, which i think is normal. The muscles around her tail are relaxing also. one side moreso than the other. I'll see if i can get any milk from her today. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the help!!!!
 

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Hi everyone. First time foaling so had some questions for all you pro's out there. I have a 12 yr old mare bought bred. Problem is, her due date is unknown. All they can remember is it was hot when she was bred. She had a heat cyle when I brought her home last summer and a vet palpated her(September) and said no. However she is definately carrying. Not a maiden. udder is swollen, milk in teats, still clear, soft at tail. She is heavy and belly just starting to sag a little in the middlebut not "V" shaped yet. slower to eat grain, lying down a lot more, and hanging off by herself more lately. Is June or July normal foaling time of year? No waxing or dripping milk and udder is swollen with some milk but not "full". Could she bag up after foaling? Any thoughts? Thanks!
 

Beverly Outlaw
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Hi amy.. she may not be too far off. but when her bag starts filling and staying full...that is when i would start watching really close. yes that is normal for her vulva to be pink. it gets really dark red before foaling. even though mine nver did that i could catch anyway...Muscles relaxing are good, but the best indicator is milk. my maiden had amber colored milk seemed like for 3 or 4 months and then one day it got cloudy and 2 days later we had a baby, here is a link...hope it works..http://client.webshots.com/photo/196365392/365868436qwSxzk If it does not work go to
http://communitywebshots.com/user/outlawpaints101 that will work and look in first album.. last pictures in first album...

Hi Shap326, If milk is clear or if it is amber colored your getting close. when it is cloudy you are in business. A lot of people like to have babies in March or April when it is not so hot, but there are some out there that have them later. we just had one born on the 7th.. My mare never did wax or drip. just watch her. she sounds close. and yes she could bag after foaling. my mare foaled on a 3/4 full udder. Good Luck and happy foaling to all.
 

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Thanks Beverly, I went out to check on my mare again this morning. Her muscles around her tail are getting softer everyday. No milk yet, and her utters are pretty full. All the veins in her stomach are bulging out! He stomach looks like it may have dropped but only slighly. She takes a while to eat things now, and doesnt graze as much. She seperates herself from only one of our horses, the new one, and stays close to our other gelding. She also seems to be a little bothered by the heat and she tends to stay in the barn more. Any estimates on how much longer? Thanks for your help.
 

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Amy,
I would say when she gets cloudy milk you are in business, but that doesn't neccesarily mean she couldn't go before then. keep an eye on all of the signs. milk for me was the best indicator that she was about to deliver. I would seperate her from all the other horses if possible. we had our other mare in with her (in foal for next year) and our stallion and gelding in another pasture side by side. Well our gelding tore down 30 foot of fence just to get to the baby. Real nosey..We were lucky nothing happened. They get really protective and baby could get hurt in the process of her trying to protect it...better safe than sorry. i would say maybe a couple more weeks. if she is due the 7th she could go before or after but if you cant express any milk hard to tell. If you see cloudy milk though, like i have said many times LOL. that is when you will soon have a baby. That is the only thing about maidens you are the first to see her go through it so you don't have a way to know how she goes. Good Luck and I hope all goes well. Keep us posted..
 

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Hello

I just recently bought a haflinger mare. The man that I bought her from stated that he "tried" to breed her to his donkey, but she kicked the donkey and so he didn't try breeding her again because the donkey was scared of her. I never gave it anymore thought. But now, Im wondering if she could be pregnant. Her teats a full and when I squeeze them, liquid comes out. Does this happen with mares that aren't pregnant? Or does this mean she is prego?
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I forgot to add that he tried pasture breeding them a few times. not handing breeding.

Thanks
Dawn
 

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Dawn

I know quite a few experienced broodmares that always have fluid in their teats all year even when they arent bred. Has she had a lot of previous foals??
 

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Berverly, My mare, Dream, is now almost totally relaxed by her tail, she is biting at her sides occasionally, utters stay almost totally full during the day, her vulva is longer, she is restless too. I'll have to see if i can get milk from her today. With all these signs, do you have an estimate on how long until i have a baby. She is also now sleeping in her stall every night. The only problem is that i don't have a camera. I'm thinking about going out in the middle of the night a few times to check on her. Or should i just sleep inside or right next to the barn? Any advice is appereciated. Thanks!
 

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Amy,
sounds like she is getting very close. Do you put her in her stall at night or does she go in there on her own. We don't have a camera either. It is very difficult to catch them if you dont really no what to look for, but sounds like she is close to me. If her milk is cloudy then I would start checking about every 30 minutes to an hour. Our barn is only about 300 feet from the house so it is easy for us. If you have a barn with a tack room that would help so you don't disturb her. If she starts labor and feels like it is not safe she can hold off for a little while , and of course they can hear very good and always seem to know when you are peeking at them. LOL. If she has cloudy milk "I would not leave her alone to long, but mine had cloudy milk for 2 days. Good luck and keep me posted... hopefully all will go well and you willhave a baby her beofre too long...Dont forget to have everything you need there before she has it...phone (cell), vets number, watch, iodine, etc....Emotions gets very high when she starts and hopefully will go fairly quickly. If nothing else you will at least have the phone to call and let everyone know you have a baby!!! I wanted to call my friend at 4:00 in the morning, but waited till 6:00. LOL. Good Luck and hope all goes well. keep me posted. Sorry so long..
 

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Bev,
Thanks for your advice. I will check her milk every day. Also, the flies are driving her nuts and I have been using a spray on fly deterrent with citronella. I looked on the label and it says safe for mares and foals. Still, I worry about baby nosing around and getting spray on its mouth as it learns to nurse. If I am able to notice her going into labor I can wipe her down before she delivers....What are your thoughts on this? Thanks for all your help!
 

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No baby yet? maybe it won't be much longer. Just make sure you don't get any on the udder's as it will make the foal not want to nurse because of the nasty taste. (That would be a bad thing)If you would like to, you could use the wipe on kind and just make sure you dont get it on mom's udders.. Good Luck!
 

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Shap326 ,use a fan if you have a electrical outlet in the barn at least while she is in the barn. The breeze helps keep the flies off the animals.

There is a avon product out there that alot of people use too... I beleive it is skin so soft. It works well.

Kim
 

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I use the Avon's SSS on myself. Can anyone confirm that this safe to use on mares and foals ?
Thanks
 

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Kaseyyoung,
That is actually how i heard of the product... never new that avon had such a product until horse people told me that they were using it on their horses. Know many people that have used the product for several years now with no problems. someplace there is another post on this board too about the product.

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amy (Unregistered Guest)
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Beverly, I have to put her in the stall at night. During the day, unfortunatly she can't get into it. I have to bring her around a pasture for her to get into it. I bedded it down with straw and rubber matts. she seems to like it alot. Today, she didn't want any horse around her not even her best friend of 3 years. Weird for her. Her belly has dropped and her muscles around her tail are almost like jello. Her udders are hard and warm but still no milk as of yet. Maybe because she is a maiden? Who knows. Her vuvla is longer and swollen also. I'm for sure checking on her tonight every few hours. It seems to me like it is close. She also is a little less interested in eating from the pasture. Do you have an estimate of how much longer i will have to wait?? haha waiting is so stressful! Thanks for the help!
 

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Thanks Kim
I'll look for it.
 

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I am glad to hear that there are others out there in the midst of the "waiting game" as well. This is my first experience with foaling a mare and my mare's predicted due date was June 2nd and we are still sleeplessly waiting. She is a maiden mare. She starts off the day with milk but ends with very little after pacing around the paddock except yesterday she seemed to hang on to a little bit more than usual. She is still eating well, most of the time. The muscles next to the top her tail are very soft and her vulva looks, for lack of a better word, "poochy" especially in the evenings. She is urinating very frequently and some days she seems very uncomfortable (biting at her sides, kicking up at her belly with her hind legs, and pushing her rear end up against the stall walls). I have been reading some of the posted comments about observing the milk but was told by a vet that I shouldn't try to get any milk from my mare before she foals as it can induce labor before she is ready. Anyone have any suggestions about this??? I would like to check her milk out periodically to see where we are at but I am obviously a little worried about it.
 

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Hi amy, yes it sounds like she is getting closer. I would maybe give it a week. Maybe less maybe more.. Do you have any recent pictures of her you could download? That would help. it is just hard to tell from words..

Hey Jennifer, I am a member of a group called FOALWATCH and there are several vets on there who suggest using this as a more reliable method than any other. besides you shouldn't be expressing no more than a couple drops...If your mares expected due date was on the 2nd she is well in the range of not being early so you shouldn't worry. like I said you should only get a drop or two anyway.. just enough to see the color and consistency...and if you are brave enough....the taste... I had a maiden and i checked her milk 5 or 6 times a day. 1 drop or two will not make them go into labor unless it is time... Just don't overdue it!! LOL Good Luck. If the mares areholding their bags longer throughout the day, they are getting closer....
 

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Beverly, How could i send you a picture of her? I'm not so sure how to download very well. I can attach photo's to email, but i dont have your email address. I do have some recent photo's of Dream though. I'm checking on her a few times a night also. I wish she would just have it already, waiting is too stressful. DReam has been extremly restless the last few days. She is slower to eat also. Just thought that might help. Thanks.
 

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Hi Amy, If you would like you can e-mail me privately. my e-mail is outlaw5@pbtcomm.net
I know. I felt the same way about our mare. When you least expect it, it will happen...Hope I can help and hope i have helped.
 

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Thanks Beverly! I will check her milk tomorrow and see what we come up with. She did leak a little milk on the inside of her leg today but the milk quantity still decreased quite a bit throughout the day. Her appetite is still going strong though. At what point would you recommed I start staying the whole night out there??? I keep waiting for her to wax or her bowels to increase OR SOMETHING!!! I wish we had one of those cameras to monitor her with but we don't so we just go out and check on her often. It has been a long 12 days past her due date and we are ready to get this foal here!!
 

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Hi,
I have a maiden mare and she is getting ready to have her foal, she has a low belly, is uncomfortable most of the time, won't eat her food very quickly, has a full bag but I can't get milk out of her, her butt mucles are extremely relaxed and her vulva is longer. When does anyone think she will have this baby, help me please!!!
 

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Suki,
do you know when she was bred ? anything over 320 days is ok, it seems that alot of mare are almost a year for carry baby this year ! mine when llike 342 days. I think alot is having to do with the climate in which you are in as well, although we fell in the "norm" for our mares this year.

good luck
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Beverly,

I checked my mare's milk today...just getting a few drops and it is transparent. Is that the same thing as being amber in color?? Should I be checking it morning and night? She was incredibly irritable when I got those few drops out of her this morning and would hardly let me touch her hard udders....will this improve when it is her foal nursing and not me touching them? I sure hope so. Thanks for your advice!
 

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Hi again,

My TB is on her about 318 day of her pregnacy. When do you think she will foal. Today she was very differnt, she rolled alot and ddn't want to be by her pasture mates or myself. Can anyone tell me about when she will foal. look at my post earlier to see her other signs, her utters are even bigger today and her butt is as soft as ever, i still can't get milk but I don't konw what that means. Someone please give me and estimate, should i be checking on her at night? Answer back soon please, i am sick of this waiting game. And the climate is quite normal here except for a little hotter weather.
 

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Suki,
you are just at the earliest due date of 320 days , anythings sooner would be very difficult on the baby. You may still have a couple of weeks to go. Don't rush it , a mare will deliver when baby is ready for the real world. Lungs don't develop until the very last month if i remember correctly. Be patient !!

Kim
 

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Suki, my mare is on day 360! Talk about waiting games..
 

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I have a mare that I think is pregnate but she doesnt look bigger. I dont know when she got pregnate. We noticed her udders getting bigger about a month ago it was clear, now it is milky but still runny(Not sticky). Everything else looks the same on her. But she hasnt been in heat this year. She is tall and I'm wandering if thats why she doesnt look pregnate.Any advice anyone??
 

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Kim V,
is it possible that she was exposed to a stallion at some point ?

I know that with many of our mares, seeing that we are around them all the time they seem to hide a baby real well, yet when others come around they make comment on how big they are. When you are around something on a day to day basis , sometimes you don't relize what it really looks like or how they are growing.

Keep a eye on her, and look for other signs too.
Kim
 

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Alright. My mare is on day 319 as of June 16th. She is a maiden mare. She is showing all the classic signs that she will foal in a few days. She has dropped her belly, her muscles around her tail are relaxed. Her udders are filling. The teats are almost totally filled. Her utters are warm and hard. She is holding up her tail more. The baby shifts from side to side extremly often. The mare rolls somewhat. She bites at her sides, and kicks at her belly. Her vulva is elongated. She urinates often in small amounds. During the night she lays down and gets up again and lays down again and gets up alot. She is slow to eat grain and doesn't seem as interested in grazing. She paces during the day also. She also shifts her weight from one leg to another alot. Finally, she doesn't want to be near any of the other horses. Oh yeah, and her utters are a little touchy too. How much longer do I have to wait??? I'm going nuts.
 

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Hi Amy, I should have said that you shoul dbe careful about touching her udders. If this is something that she is not used to she may even try to kick or bite you. start by rubbing her belly and slowly move back until you hand is n her udder. She may be a little sore. it will also help her when she has the baby so she will not have problems with the baby nursing. if she does the vet can give you some banamine to give to her so baby can nurse. Also keep a halter on her. you never know when you might need to use it. She sounds very close. Clear is kinda amber i guess. Watch for unusual behavior. something different than normal. She could go very soon. She is only one day off from 320 gestation so you should be in the clear. i felt the same way as you do. i kept saying i don't know who is going to hold out longer the mare or my hair.. LOL. Good Luck and keep your fingers crossed. She sounds very close..
 

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Thanks Berverly, I no to be careful about touching her udders. Before I do I always rub her belly and then she is great. This morning her bag was really full so she was a little "tender". She is acting very different than what she does otherwise. She has been kicking at her belly all day. I thought it was flys, so i sprayed her but she still kicked at herself. Is that a sign? She wanted to be alone, biting at her friends again, so i put her in her stall and she seems much happier. Thanks for the help.
 

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yes, biting at her sides are one of the signs. If she wants to be alone. try to keep her alone most of the time and maybe it will speed things up.. Good Luck! Keep your spirits up....
 

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Thanks Beverly, your a big help. She stay by her self all day, and has a friend in the stall next to her at night and she seems content. Her muscles around her tail are like jello too. Weird haha. Her udders are also even more full than before. I'm checking on her at three this morning. I'll keep you updated. Thanks again!
 

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well, still no baby yet. Thanks for everyones advice on fly spray, I feel much better. Cant stand to see her tormented by flys but shes so close and don't want to hurt her or baby. I checked her milk last two days it is now cloudy with little specks.I have camcorder set up in her stall when she is put in at night and last night she was very restless and pacing, getting up and down alot. She was biting at her sides and kicking her belly some, and I thought maybe this was the night. Still no baby today though. we had kids stay over and outside in the pool till late and maybe the extra commotion....? How long can a mare delay her labor? Since we dont have exact due date I am going nuts.....
 

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Hey Shap, it sounds like we are going through the same thing. The waiting game sucks doesn't it. At least you have a camera you can watch her from. I have to get up during the night, run to the barn, and check on her. I hope our babies get here soon. I'm ready to see mine and im sure you ready to see yours. Good luck
 

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I am getting so sick of this waiting game, my mare is on her 320th day today and i noticed that her bag was really getting full, i mean almost to the max. She has all the other signs like her butt is soft, belly dropped, changed attitude, but i can't get milk out of her, does anyone have any idea how long it will take for her to foal???
 

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Syclone, you have got to be patient!! 320 days is the earliest a mare can foal without the foal being premature. She might not foal for another month! Or she could foal tonight. Only she knows.
 

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Hello Beverley. My maiden mare is not due until 7th July. Her teats/bag started to fill weeks ago & seem to be joining as one tonight, her vulva is lengthening & appears saggy & slightly swollen at the base. Tail muscles are definitley squidgy. No wax as yet - haven't tried to express any milk as no experience in this & don't want to alarm her - any ideas as to when she will foal?
 

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Hi ssuziec, If your mare is not due until the 7th you may still have a week or two to go yet maybe more or less. You want the baby to be healthy and the closer to her "due date" the better. Milking her is like milking a cow. grab the teat carefullyup towards the top and kind of squeeze and pull at the same time. It takes practice but getting a little out will not hurt her. I know the waiting game is AWFUL. I was there and will be there again in late fall, but i would rather be a little over than a little early and foal not make it. Hang in there!
 

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Hello everyone,
I have been reading this forum for the past 9 days. I have a maiden mare, a paint overo who was bred to a homozygous tabiono spotted saddled breed, or tennesse walker. Anywho her due date is in early July, i think the 4th or the sixth. i had her bred on july 29th, 2005. so that makes her to be on her 324th day of pregnacy i think. may want to add that yourself. Well she has many signs of foaling. My sister and I brought her into her stall that she stays in at night and we noticed her belly dropped ALOT, her utters filled about 2 weeks ago and stay filled most of the day but we can't get any milk out of her. Her butt mucles have relaxed significantly and feel like jello. Her attitude has changed towards my sister *amy and i and towards her bff Buddy. She bites him and has never done that since our other gelding was alive, bad accident causes his death this past april. They have become fast friends but she doesn't want to be arond him anymore. She is so loveydovey with amy and i and she always had been, but not like this. She dosen't like our new horse very much so we keep then seperated. She ocasionally bites at her sides. At night we check on her and you can see where she has layed down, normally by 3:00 there are about 3 differnt areas where she has layed down. She eats slower and rubbs her butt against the sides or her stall. She is consuming more water, rapidly. She pees frequently but in small amounts. She also seems to deficate more than usual. Can anyone give me an estimate as to when she will foal??I just want to see this baby and i pray it is healthy Please someone tell me about when she will foal. i should also mention she is a maiden mare. Thank you for your help!! Sorry for the long explanition
 

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Cherry;

My maiden mare foaled at day 339 with absolutely no signs of foaling that I could see. She had no bag, and she sure wasnt jellow-sh at all. To me her belly hadnt dropped, and other than rubbing her butt on the stall, which the foaling facility said may be worms, or may be signs of impending foaling, she did nothing. There was no change in peeing, or any change in manure... nothing... nada.. nil.
The lesson learned here, is that all horses are different, and with a maiden, the bets are off. I was out to see my mare less than 12 hours before she foaled and she didnt mention a word to me that the big night was here. She just stood here, nickering, and eating an apple I brought, and walking around like she didnt have a care in the world. At 12:30 am that same night, she promply laid down and delivered a cute little bay paint filly.
I swear she smirked at me the next day when I went out to see the foal. I was sure the foaling facility had my mare mixed up with another one... nope... it was mine. :-)
Anyway, to me it sounds like she is close. If you read some of the posts on here, your mare has all the signs of impending foaling except for the milk part. I have seen on here, that most of the time that the bag of the mare stays full for the whole day, not going down with exercise, that the time is near. but.... shes a maiden, so only she knows for sure.

Keep us posted.. Welcome to the mare stare :-)

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Thanks for your reply. Today, my mare's udders stayed full all day even when she was zooming about hte pasture. She was also a little ornery(sp?) I'll keep an eye on her and tell you what happens. This waiting stinks!
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Just an update, my mare still didn't foal. She's rubbing her tail alot though. Maybe tonight is the night?
 

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Beverly Outlaw,

i would like your advice on all of this
 

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Hi Cherry, I am no expert by any means but I will try to help.. How many days is she? what other signs does she have? Vulva elongated, milk? If you can express a drop or two of milk and see what color it is will be the best indicator...Let me know and i will try to help

Amy, has your mare had her foal yet?
How about you ssuziec? Keep me posted... I am so excited for all of you.....
 

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Hi Beverly,
No my mare hasn't had her foal yet...that I know of...i checked on her at 7 this morning and then i had to leave for a while. It's about 9:30 so I'll go check on her and let her out into the pasture. Cherry, is my sister. It's dream that she is talking about. She is at day 323or 324 and i'm not sure on milk yet. Bugs are getting at her udders like crazy though. I was told that i shouldn't spray them with fly spray because the baby might not want to nurse then. What can I do for her? Any suggestiong? Thanks for the help. I'll keep you updated.
 

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Hi Amy! Oh ok!!! Yes, bugs love to get at those udders. My mares had little spots of blood all over them from where they had been feasting on her.... Take a little fly spray and wipe around them. just don't get it on the udders in case she is close... Good Luck...
 

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Thanks for the help. I'm sure Dream will be much happier today then. I thought were had a baby last night when I went out to check on her. Her head was down and I thought she was watching her foal. Turns out she was sleeping. Weird little girl. I'll keep you updated after every check. I'm going crazy over here haha!!!
 

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We bought a 4 year old maiden mare that has not been handled much and is due any day now. They were not sure when she was bred, but all of the signs show she should foal soon. There is not much of a bag, but the milk vein is huge and hard, just is not moving into the bag. She does not want me touching the bag yet without kicking out. The foal is moving constantly, kicking even up in the upper hip and right near the tail. Is this normal to be kicking so much in the tail area? Her tail area is jello, but I don't see any sinking in really just quite a bend from the tail to the back of the butt area. Any ideas?
 

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Amy, Just keep the faith girl. When my mare was bred we didn't know an exact date, but the latest she could have been bred was may 25th...she didn't deliver until June 7th.... So go figure... Your mare may not keep you quite that long (I hope not anyway) but if she does just try to keep the faith...

Susan, The kicking up near the tail head is normal. our mare had that also and within 2 weeks she had the baby. All mares are different though.. She may foal tonite. they don't all read the book like i wish they would ... LOL.
Our next mare to foal is a pro at it. She usually drips milk for a day and then has the foal that night. Hopefully she will again this year anyway...
Good Luck to all of you and maybe tonight will be the night..
 

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Beverly,

Just wanted to thank you for your advice last week! My mare foaled yesterday morning at 6 a.m., exactly 48 hours after her milk turned cloudy....just like you advised. I was able to be there for the whole process which was awesome! If it had not been for your advice I may not have known to keep such a close watch on her those last two nights. She didn't show a lot of the "classic" signs and only waxed up two hours before foaling. She had beautiful Tobiano bay and white stud colt! Her predicted due date was June 2 so we are all happy to have him here finally (especially my mare)! Good luck to all those who are waiting for their foals to arrive!!
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Great to hear that Jennifer! Can't wait for mine to come! Beverly, just wanted to give you an update on Dream. Her udders are totally full throughout the day now. The are warm and hard. She was rolling alot yesterday too. I'm thinking that she will have her baby this weekend as I have to ride in a rodeo. My sister will be there with her though. Maybe tonight. I just don't know with her. She looked like she had waxed just slightly a few days ago but it's gone now. She stays inside of her stall alot or in the other half of the barn(which she has unlimited access to all day) He belly has dropped even more to the point where it looks like it comes to a point. If i can get my camera to work I'll send you a picture of her udders. I'll keep you updated. Thanks for all your help.
Oh yeah, Jennifer, have fun with your colt.
Have fun! And Happy Trails!!!
 

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Hello Beverley, Sorry to quiz you again. Being that this is Tiffany's (my mare) first foal (& mine !) is their any site you could recommend where I can obtain/view any pics of impending foaling signs i.e. how much the vulva lengthens, swells and what a dropped v shaped belly looks like - I know this might be a strange request, but she is showing most of the signs (& has been for over a week) I really dont want to miss anything. :-) thanks
 

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Hi Jennifer! CONGRATS!!!! must be something in the water!!LOL. Our's is a bay and white tobiano stud colt too! Glad everything went fine. And the most part glad you got to see the baby born... I am on a FANTASTIC group called foalwatch. It would be a great learning experience to join. i will have to get that addy for you...All of you...

Amy, Just keep looking for that milk. she sounds really close. Again it is hard to tell just by giving the signs. Sounds great about her udders. Hope she goes soon for you. before the weekend.

Ssuziec, That is ok. i dont know of the site right now. will have to look it up for you, will get it for you and post later. (after kids go to bed so i can look things up in peace.)
Will be back soon. i promise....
 

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Hey Ssuziec, I found a great site that has many pictures of mares who are about to foal and what they look like. They are miniuture(sp?) horses but you can just add some height if you have a full grown mare. The site is http://www.geocities.com/crayonboxminis/foalingsigns.html It's a great site. Really is helping me along! Thanks Beverly for all your help, ill keep updating!
 

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Beverly, When I went out to check on Dream this morning, she was warmer than usual. Is this bad or is it a sign she will foal soon. I wish she would have it soon because I have to leave in a day! I wish she would just pop it out already!!! haha! It'll come when it's ready I know but I wish it was ready today haha. I'll keep you updated. Thanks
 

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Hi Amy,
Thanx for your help - the site has helped, least i know exactly what to look for now. How's Dream? (she is due the day before Tiffany!!!) any news?.

Beverley,
Tiffany doesn't appear to like laying down now, if her waters go whilst she is still standing is it very different from p'ing? - sorry to keep asking questions.

All help is appreceiated.
 

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Hi Amy, Sorry to not have gotten back sooner. my father had a small heart attack last night. just got to where i could settle down for a little while. That could mean that she is getting closer. She will probably have it while you are gone. LOL. I missed our's by 45 minutes. Will someone else be there to watch her in case she should need help? Hope she has it for you after you come back, that way you don't miss out on one day of playing with the little squirt. They are so fun to be around when they are healthy. Our's will walk up to you and let you do anything you want to him. We did the imprint thing and he lets us pick his feet up, touch him anywhere, working on leading. Good Luck!

Ssuziec, Sorry I was not able to get that link for you, but that was the one I was going to get for you... hope all works out for you also. My mare did not lay down for the last few weeks when she was close. Yes, it is different. It would be a big gush. If you see little spurts that is the time to worry because that means that the baby is not presented right and may not be able to come out right. If this happens try to get her up and walk her until a vet comes. Times is crucial on something like this...

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to get point across..

GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY FOALING!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Beverly, I'm sorry about your dad.
Dream's bag stays full through the whole day. I hope she doesn't have it while I'm gone. Yes, my sister Cherry will be here to watch her. I'll keep you posted. Oh yeah, she doesn't graze anymore than 45 min. per day. Is that a sign? She'll eat as much hay as I give her at night though?? Weird! Thanks
 

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Beverley, I am so sorry to hear about your dad, I hope he makes a speedy recovery. My dad has only recently passed away so can empathise with you, anyway enough of that one. Just tell him to make the most of all the pampering & rest up - he'll soon get used to it & feel better :-) x
 

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Thanks everyone for your condolenses.

Amy, She may not feel like eating alot during the day when it is so hot, maybe she waits till it has cooled down a bit. She probably has a week or so to go.. Have you been successful at checking her milk?

Ssuziec, Thanks so much. He lives so far away and i worry about him. He is doing much better though this afternoon. Good Luck to everyone..

I will be gone for a week so if i miss something be sure to let me know when the babies arrive....And don't forget the pictures. make sure your foaling kit is in order and Good Luck on happy healthy foals..
 

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Hi all, Tiffany is now showing signs of being close (would like to put my wish list in for foaling tonight - please!!!) her vulva is extremely long, pouchie & the pink started to go slightly redder last night, her tail muscles are next to non existent(she can still raise her tail) her tail head is very pronounced, her belly has dropped (though not forming a v shape?) when she rubs her rear end (which she is doing lots now) in the stable it looks like either the stable or tiffany will fall down - i never imagined she would rub that hard or for so long, her bag is huge & has been joined as one for the last three days (the skin of her bag is looking shiney, but although we have have a small amount of wax previously she does not have any wax at the mo ?!?. I would like to be able to check her milk -but she wont let me as is getting quite touchy about me touching her sides & teats - but has no probs with me checking her vulva?!?. I will keep you all posted - but hopefully tonight so I can start sleeping again! lol :-)
 

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Ssuiec, wow, it sounds almost exactly what is happening to Tiffany, is happeing to Dream. Everything sounds the same except that her belly is in the "v" shape. Keep me posted! Maybe we'll have babies on the same day/night??? That would be awesome, especially if we both get to see them. What breed of horse is Tiffany?? What did you breed her to? Mines a paint and was bread to a tennessee walker. Keep you posted! Let's pray for tonight!!!!!! I need a full night of sleep!
 

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YAY!!! THE WAIT IS OVER! We had a beautiful stud colt at around 6:15 this morning. I wasn't up so no one got to see the birth. My dad was on a walk and came back to let all the horses out of their stalls. He was the placenta, looked at the baby to make sure he was breathing and ran right to the house and woke me up. I ran out and there was my beautiful, "Hilltop's Key to My Dreams" Topper for short. He is black and white with a blaze that makes one of his eyes look blue but he has two brown eyes. He's a little fisty bugger and has already bucked at me twice! haha! I'll try to post pictures as soon as I can or as soon as someone tells me how. I've been in the stall with him and touched him all over, had a halter on him for a little and everything. He's the cutest baby out of this stud so far. For being a first time mom, Dream is doing great. She takes care of Topper well and lets him nurse often. I'll keep you updated.!!!!!!!! Good luck Ssuiec, did you have your baby yet??
 

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Congratulations Amy !! He sounds perfect. Pls post pics when you can. And now you can get a good nights sleep
 

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Yippeeeeeee same night !!!!
I am in England, so not sure who's arrived first - but same night - its soo fantastic ! ! :-)
Tifany had Tobi just after midnight, (Tiffany is a dapple grey irish draught) Tobi is a beautiful skewbald (Tobiano) colt (his sire is Umenno, a coloured dutch warmblood).
Like you I missed the birth by 5mins !!how frustrated was I - initial thoughts were wow, then ooh I missed it.
Tiffany is proving to be an excellent mum - I will try to put some pics on soon, I aslo took some pics of her vulva & bag on the day before it occurred & i'll try & post them to, so anyone else still waiting can view them for comparrisons. The only diffent sign Tifany showed, was in the morning the last 1" of her vuvla was slightly open, however this closed by bedding down time - so didnt think to much of it until Tobi arrived ! :-)

I didnt leave them til 0400 & after a full night of no sleep I have been to work for a full day, been up re-bedded down & will be finally getting some sleep tonight :-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Good luck to everyone still waiting, my mare stare will start again in about two weeks when our 2nd mare Amy is due (unless her signs change dramatically - which will prob be the case just as i'm now planning on a bit of sleep :-)lol
love to everyone out there. Sue
 

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Wow Ssuziec, that is crazy how things happen! Almost freaky that they came on the same night! haha. I can't wait to see pictures of Tobi, i bet he is beautiful. I'll try to get pics of Topper on here but someone has to teach me how to do it. Hope everything goes well with Amy. I'll keep you updated.
 

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Sorry a little error, when i said amy in the second to last sentence i ment Tobi! haha. Have fun with him! Send pictures!
 

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Ssuziec, I found out something very weird. You said that Tobi was born just after midnight and Topper was born just after six. Well I found out that six in the morning here means midnight where you are. We had babies at the same time on the same day with the same letter to start their names, with the same coat patterns, and same gender. Now that is truly crazy! haha I'll talk to you later!
 

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Hola everyone!!! My mare finally had her foal yestuday at about noon. A beautiful brown and white filly. Her ankles...or ankle area i guess is funny. Not haha funny, but they almost touch the ground....they have gotten better since yesturday but they still don't seem strong. Is this normal??!!?? Will it get better on it's own? Should i call the vet? I am so nervouse please help me!!!
 

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Hi all, Hope everything is going well with everyone.

Amy, thats sooo unbelieveable!! (& quite freaky - esp as neither were due til july 6th & 7th!!). The pics I took when he was 1st born - have not come out - fault with camera - have a few of them but majority gone!! :-( :'( I have taken some more this eve & will get them developed tomorrow & like you Amy I will also need help putting them on the site lol :-)

Take care all & good luck
 

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Hi Ami, CONGRATULATIONS and you too Ssuziec!!!! so glad everything turned out well. I have been on Vacation so I hope I have not missed any important questions. so glad they are both doing GREAT..

Suki, Yes sometimes they are down on their pasterns, but that will improve as the days go on. they have to get stronger. She wil be better the more she excercises.

SO GLAD ALL IS WELL AND EVERYONE IS HAPPY!!! NOW WHERE ARE THE PICTURES???????LOL
 

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Hi all,

I will try to get some help with puttin pictuers on soon - I promise.

Just a quick update: Tiffany & Tobi are doing fantastically well (he has already worked out how he can get over the elec fencing ((it is not on & I lowered it to his face height to make it more visable for him)), he has noticed that if he bounces alongside the tape it moves down his legs & then he just pops over !?!? cheeky little man.)

I think I have about a week now til Amy foals - so back to the mare stare - I will update you on Amy's arrival as & when it happens

Amy - hows topper doing?

Good luck to everyone else who is undergoing mare stare or has a new arrival

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Update on Amy - her milk is amber & sticky, vulva lengthened, very "poochie" & has a similar red tinge (mild) to Tiffany the day prior to foaling (please please be tomorrow - as still haven't caught up on my sleep from Tiffany's foaling yet - so tomorrow would be great), her tail head is fairly well pronounced & her belly has dropped. No sign of wax or shiny teats though .
Beverley - any idea's? & hows your dad - lapping up the pampering & getting better I hope.
 

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Hi Ssuziec, sounds close as well. keep an eye for the cloudy milk. good Luck and thanks for remembering about my dad. He is doing much better. they put stints in. And he is now at home relaxing and getting stronger every minute I hope....Let me know when she has that baby. hope you see this one"!!!
 

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Hi everyone, just an update on Topper. He has learned to rear, and buck, and kick and all other little "colt" things. He's extremly funny to watch. He even got my dad pretty good with a double leg kick. Almost dropped him to his knees. He likes to have the top of his head rubbed also. Beverly, how do i load pics onto the site for you to see?? Oh yeah, if anyone wants to see the stallion that I bred dream to you can go to http://www.spotteddreamsstables.com/stallions.html and he is By His Glory I am Key! See you later.. How is amy doing Ssuziec?
 

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Hi all, no new foal yet - thought teats are now shiny milk is has gone back to transparent. I will keep you all posted. If anyone wants to see the stallion that Tiffany was covered by (Tobi's dad) you can go to http://www.umenno.com/ - Tobi is very similar.
Amy, Toppers dad looks lovely.
Beverley, i'm hoping to see this one too!-sleep seems to have gone out of the window, glad to hear your dad is getting better.
 

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Ssuziec, wow!!!! your stud is so beautiful! He looks absoulty amazing! He looks like a great horse. Any news about Amy??? Any changes? How's tobi? Beverly, do you know how to post pictures on here? If so, could you tell me how?
Thanks!
 

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Hi Amy, Congrats again... the only way i know to post pictures is to open a photobucket account (free) and then copy and paste the picture i.d. on here like you did the address for the stallion.
CANT WAIT!!!!!
 

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Hi these are from his first day. He is now a week old. I am going to give you some pictues of him from today too once i get them loaded! See you all later! (well I guess talk) http://photobucket.com/albums/a70/horse_lover22/?action=view&current=topper4.jpg &slideshow=true&interval=3
 

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if that does work go to http://photobucket.com/albums/a70/horse_lover22/
 

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Hi Amy, tried to see photos of baby, but with this last link you need a password to use.... don't give out yours !! you can get a guest password to give to others. Logon with your info and its there in your selection of choices ... got a glimce of him through the first link that gave me a error. Just love those spotted babies!! thats what we raise.

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Beverly, I had the maiden mare that we had bought without anyone knowing the due date. Just had to watch for signs. She didn't give any out, just the jello tail and filled with milk @ a week before. Finally got our baby on the fourth. Brown and white paint colt, already getting cocky. Took some time to get him to nurse, had to feed with a bottle for him to understand the nipple concept, finally latched on and took off after about 3 1/2 hours. Maiden mother did well.
 

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try it now. I think it should work. If it asks for a password horse will work. (thats the guest password) Thanks
 

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Amy, topper is just gorgeous. love those black and whites...

Susan, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!Almost on my birthday.. mine is today the 5th.....Glad all is doing well.
CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

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Happy Birthday Beverly!!
 

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Happy birthday!
 

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Happy birthday Beverley
No news yet on Amy - have just got back from checking her, vulva has more red in it, milk still transparent (), temp slightly up, drinking loads, belly has dropped & happily munching away on her hay!-very slowly, but still trying to fill her fat belly.
Beverley - does the milk always go milky b4 birth?, how close do you think she is?.
Amy - Topper is lovely - how are you getting on with headcollar trainning as I haven't attempted it yet.
Susan - congratulations
 

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Thanks Amy & Ssuziec!

No milk does not ALWAYS get milky, but most of the time. It should get a little cloudy, but they dont always follow the book. She is probably be pretty close.

Keep a look out. watch for her to have a baby soon.
 

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Ssuziec, the halter training is going great. Yesterday, his first day with his red halter, he did great except he did alot of head shaking which i expected would happen. Today he runs around like he doesn't have a care in the world. He loves to play around with his "uncles" and the halter doesn't bug him in the least. My vet said that the earlier that you put a halter on a foal the better. He said within 7-9 days is the latest you should start. But then again, i don't trust vets completly. I've recently had a bad experience with one. My gelding (who was 10 at the time) got impaled by a brocken rake shaft. He was struck right to the right of his sheath. He wasn't doing great but was better in the comming days until a saturday morning. He just wasn't right so we called the vets. The vet i really don't like because I believe he can't handle horses well came out. He said he'd give him some morphine type thing(which my regular vet said not to) and not twenty minuets later he was gone. He was my first horse (as i am only 14) and it broke my heart. Now I have another horse quite like Laughter was named Sully. He's a beautiful paint. But back to the subject. Sometimes second opinions from vets are the best. Keep us updated on Amy. Thanks for all the compliments on Topper too. I'll try to get updated photo's of him soon. Oh yeah and Ssuziec, Toppers mom never even had milk until after he was born...she is a madien though. Thanks! PS-sorry for the long post
 

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Ssuziec, the halter training is going great. Yesterday, his first day with his red halter, he did great except he did alot of head shaking which i expected would happen. Today he runs around like he doesn't have a care in the world. He loves to play around with his "uncles" and the halter doesn't bug him in the least. My vet said that the earlier that you put a halter on a foal the better. He said within 7-9 days is the latest you should start. But then again, i don't trust vets completly. I've recently had a bad experience with one. My gelding (who was 10 at the time) got impaled by a brocken rake shaft. He was struck right to the right of his sheath. He wasn't doing great but was better in the comming days until a saturday morning. He just wasn't right so we called the vets. The vet i really don't like because I believe he can't handle horses well came out. He said he'd give him some morphine type thing(which my regular vet said not to) and not twenty minuets later he was gone. He was my first horse (as i am only 14) and it broke my heart. Now I have another horse quite like Laughter, named Sully. He's a beautiful paint. But back to the subject. Sometimes second opinions from vets are the best. Keep us updated on Amy. Thanks for all the compliments on Topper too. I'll try to get updated photo's of him soon. Oh yeah and Ssuziec, Toppers mom never even had milk until after he was born...she is a madien though. Thanks! PS-sorry for the long post
 

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sorry about the doubles, didn't think it worked
 

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Hi all, just got back from first night visit, her temp is normal, vulva has gone back to almost completely pink-though is extremly long, pouchie & loose, munching away slowly as normal, belly is very low though still round-not flat sided at all, milk is transparent with only a hint of cloudiness. Sure she doing this on purpose to deprive me of my sleep (I live 15 mins away-so each visit takes me over an hour, as I like her to settle as if she's forgotten i'm there -though this probably dosn't work) feels like 1 step forward & 3 back. I'll keep you all posted & will start Tobi's halter training on Sunday
 

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Ssuziec, don't worry. She'll go right when you leave after a check. haha. For you i truly hope not. You've already missed one birth, thats enough. Have fun with Tobi's halter training. Pictures yet? If you can't post them on here feel free to send me any pictures and I would be happy to post them for you. My email is marlee_c_22@hotmail.com Good Luck with amy and keep us updated.
 

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just to let you know, betweeen the e and the c there is an underscore and between the c and the two there is also and underscore.
 

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Here are some updated photos of Topper at i think one week old. http://photobucket.com/albums/a70/horse_lover22/
 

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Yesterday, I managed to put Topper's fly mask on. He didn't mind it at all. My dad also took Dream on a little ride this morning, only walking in the pastures, and topper seemed fine with it. He is curious and tends to hang pretty far back from mom. Weird! haha! Today I might try to start some of his John Lyons training. My vet says the earilier the better for him. Plus, Dream has fair with me in about a month and needs to be ok that Topper is a little farther away from her. I also need to train Dream to trot on a lead rope. That should be fun! How is amy doing??? Beverly, do you have any foals due this year? Ssuziec, do you have any pictures of Tobi that you could send to me so I could post them on here. or do you know how to do that youself? Talk to you all later. Happy Trails
 

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Hi Amy! yes we have two due this year. one has already folaed and we are waiting on the next one in December.. (I know, bad timeing but when she wanted it, she wanted it.) this is the last time we will probably breed her as she is 20. If you want to look at some of the pictures of our horses...some old some not please feel free to look at web page...like i said some of the pictures are old and I need to redo them, but had so much on my plate lately, hard to stay on computer very long. LOL. here is website

http://community.webshots.com/user/outlawpaints101
talk to you later. have to go wash 2 of my horses. about to take them to the sale. wish me luck on selling the mare!!!
 

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Berverly, your horses are beautiful. Topper had his first lead lesson today. Went as good as it could for him not knowing anything. Good luck selling your horses! Ssuziec, how is amy doing?? What about Tobi??? Happy Trails
 

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Hi All, Bad news Amy's bag (udder) has split in two places - two huge great tears - she has had emergency surgery, but its not pretty. I think she knew something was up & thats why she put a halt to foaling. She's ok in herself, but has had to have some major stitching on her bag & our vet has said that as long as we can try to put the foaling off she should be ok !?!?! how the heck do I do this Has anyone any experience with anything like this??? - please
Amy, I'll scan & send some pics to you later - thanks for the help (i'll also send one of Amy's bag 12hrs after surgery)
Tobi - halter training is going really well
- just as well - I need a little positivity right about now
 

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Hi, we had a mare this year that had a hole in her udder, nothing to the extent of surgury. The mares bag was so full and developed that she sprung a leak. She was close to foaling --within a week or so of it and the vet just cautioned us to watch and the best thing at our time was to foal and release the pressure in the udder. Once she began to wax, it seemed that the wax plugged the hole and once baby was born everything went ok , thank goodness. We were naturally worried about infection, and the production of milk on the side that had the hole but everything worked out ok for us, the baby was born on the 2nd of april and thriving and growing good, the mare too has had no problems with the hhole since and milk production had been more than good on both sides and no infection !!

My guess is that the vet wants some healing to take place on the udder , thats why he would like to see the baby come at a later date. I would also guess that once baby comes and some pressure is released that healing may make more progress, the size of the udder will come down once baby starts to nurse.

Best of luck
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Ssuziec I am so sorry yall are haveing a rough go of it.I havent heard of a mares bag tearing before did your vet give yall any advice as to how to postpone her labor I would imagine it would be a difficult task.Did he say how long it would take for her to heal?Is there any thing yall can put on her bag to prevent any more tears?
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Hi all,The only advice my vet gave me to stop her from foaling was to pray for really bad weather! - lot of help in july!. Her stitches are due to be removed in two weeks - most of her udder has some very large stitches in - hence why he doesn't want her to foal, as it could re-open during labour and its unlikely that she would allow the foal to feed - or even if he/she could feed they may cause more injury as the teats are amongst the stitches. Although he did say that as this is her 2nd foal her maternal instincts may overule the pain ?!? - who knows, only time will tell.
I'm heading back up there shortly to try to rinse her down & then fix some form of bandaging to her - as the flies are awful.
Good luck to everyone else - & if anyone knows/hears of anything that could help her to postpone foaling please let me know. x
 

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Ssuziec Sounds like your going to have your hands full If your mare could only take lessons from mine Katie could teach her how to cross her legs lol.Mabe she will hold off for awhile to give herself time to heal abit I sure hope so.Deena
 

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Hi Ssuziec, So sorry to hear about your mare. I too have heard of some similar stories of this, but nothing as serious as hers. Could she maybe have ripped it open on something? Is there something the vet can give her to prolong the birth? maybe she will hold on for a little longer...
Amy, no i didn't sale my mare.. they were seeling horses there for $95.00. i said i would take my horse home and keep her before i would sale her for $500.00.
Needless to say only one horse sold at the auction. Not mine!!!LOL

Hope all goes well with Amy.
 

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I hate those types of sales. The weather hurts the price of animals at this time of the year. I'm in northern Indiana and the only way to get a good price is if someone really wants that horse really bad right now. The price of animanls is low right now-- at least in this part of the country. We are in a drought and hay will be hard to come by. Many in this area of the state will be lucky to get a second cutting of hay unless we get some much needed rain or they irigate there hay fields--which most don't. All the grass hay in the fields is pretty dried up , there is some alalfa that is still making it., but will be scarce and pricey.
Hopefully "Dennis" will pull through for us this coming week. We are all praying for RAIN !!
 

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Ssuziec, I'm really sorry about Amy. Hopefully everything will be ok. Maybe she'll hold off for a while until her stitches come out before she foals. That would be great. Good Luck!
Topper has four teeth as of saturday night. He is even starting to get nippy. He also had his first lesson on a lead rope on saturday. He did great. He gets backing up way better than moving forward! Weird! Tonight I'm going with a friend to go pick up his new 3 month old cold. A soild colored buckskin. He is so cute. Topper and him will be buddies in the comming years. (We plan on taking them to many shows in the coming years) That will be fun. Keep us updated and you can send those pics whenever. i'm pretty much always here to recieve them. Have fun!
 

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At acutions her in Wisconsin, if you have a nice horse (and if its even remotly good loooking) you'll eaisly get 1200 for them. Even if the horse bucks and rears, you can get a great price. There was a horse who went for 2500 and he bucked and reared. Weird.
 

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Ssuziec, any news on Amy. Foal yet??? How are her udders?
 

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Hi all, great news. Amy had a beautiful bay colt yesterday at 17:30 (I was at work when I got the call to say she was down & it had started, I work nearly an hour away from the horses - so I missed the birth ((again!!!)), but was there to see him trying to stand).
He (Danni) is a little over on his front feet & has a slightly wonky ear - but he is huge, so its prob due to overcramping & will self correct - hopefully.
Amys teats/udders - one tear had almost healed, the lower one was slowly getting there & is now leaking milk - mainly steady drips, until danni feeds then it squirts out everywhere. The vet has said he thinks they will both be fine - I just have to monitor the amount he is feeding to ensure he gets enough & to monitor her udders for mastitus.
My vet has asked me to compile the pics I have of the wound & to try to get some of it leaking including when Danni is feeding, as one of his colleagues is in the process of writing a veterinary journal & he would like to put her in it!! - I may soon have a famous horse( well kind of anyway!) lol
I will try to post some pics soon.
 

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Finally, I get to say "CONGRATS" to you And after all that, he might even be famous some day ? Wow, you must be SO proud of your Amy.
Congratulations from one 'gramma' to another !
 

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Hi Ssuziec,
CONGRATS!! Sorry I have not been on lately. been so busy. we are still breeding some outside mares to our stallion so it has been kinda hectic....Sorry about the wound opening back up a little, but if the vet said it looked good than i would just keep an eye on it.
NOW... we want to see some picutres..LOL.
 

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Ssuziec Congradulations Give Amy a big hug for a job well done.Cant wait for pics.Deena
 

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Great news, Ssuziec, post pics as soon as you can, and some of Tobi too!
 

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Any news or pictures Ssuziec?
 

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Does anyone have any news on their babies? Any pictures??? Anyone still alive out there? Topper is one month old as of yesterday. He has two brown spots and the rest are black. I have a lady comeing out to see if he is gaited or not, which i think he isn't, so I can register him. He is fully halter broken, wears flymasks, picks up his feet, lets us pick his feet, and he is almost totally lead broken, he can go forward now! He has also had a small saddle on his back for a few moments just to get the feel. He gets ponied w/ mom when I ride her. He enjoys a good butt/chest scratch combo. He is such a calm loving colt. I have a friend who's colt is a good day if they can touch his nose. I don't even think the guy has had a halter on and he is three months old. He was sold to a lady who wants to keep him as a stud to put into the JS Rodeo. (the best rodeo there is haha) I hope everyones horses are doing great. Ssuziec, any pictures of you babies yet?
 

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Anyone with any news?
 

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Hi All.
Sorry for delay in response - been really hectic (as i'm sure u all r 2)).
Both boys are doing fine - though i havent been able to handle dandan as much as tobi (I had to let my previous groom go - long story & new groom is not very confident handling either the foals or the mums! - looking for a new groom as we speak!)
Amy's splits have just about completely healed & i'm hoping to bring her back into work from next week.
Amy - I will try to send some pics to you this week.
take care everyone. x
 

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Hi all I love this web sight. I am new at this so bare with me. I am waiting on my new little baby not to sure on when the mare was exposed but we are sure she is really close. she is showing a bunch of signs but I have never had a mare foal before so I am just going by what people tell me. Please give me some good signs, her tail has droped, teats are big, baby is kicking in her back in like up by the tail. this is her 3rd that i know of. she is still eating, I am just wondering if anyone could give me some more signs. that i need to look for. Thanks
 

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I don't know if someone else has answered you yet or if someone will before I get to you, but the best sign I ever saw was the milk changing colors..My mare was a maiden the last foal we had and I kept looking for all the "classic" signs.Well I kept looking...LOL. The only sign I got was her butt got mushy.. Then one day her milk went from cear or amber to cloudy. If you can express some milk, just a drop or two safely that would be what i would suggest.. When it goes cloudy she will usually foal within 12 -24 hrs. Good Luck!
 

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Thank you very much I checked her today and I belive the milk is cloudy looking we will see what happens over night. my husband keeps asking me when I am going to move my cloths to the barn...lol and he think he is going to come home one day and find the bed out in the barn. I will keep you posted. Thanks so much.
 

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Hey,
Do you have any pictuers of Tobi or Danni, Ssuziec??
 

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Any Pictures yet????
Amy
 

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Hi all
Weather is turning quite cold now - so appologies for the delay in reponse - but any spare time from work (which is no where near enough!!!) is taken up with the horses (no time for housework @ the mo - hubby is quietly conceeding!!)
Amy splits have completely healed!!, dandan (slight name change -sorry) still feeds standing on either side but leaning through to both teats to get his quota!, his legs & ears have straightened out & is taller than Tobi already (tobi's mum is 16.2hh & his dad is also 16.2hh) dandan's mum is 17.1hh & his dad is 16.2hh - so he is gonna be huge!!!
Amy is coming back into work nicely & showing potential to go back into sj professionally (fingers crossed)
Tobi has totally outgrown his chewing coltish behaviour & is such a sweetie - though his nice crisp markings are now bluring with his winter coat-hopefully it is just a winter thing & they will come back crisp in the summer?!?.
Need to win the lottery to be able to be up there allday fussing & educating them whilst somone else does my housework! lol - nice thought though.
Hope everyone else is ok & not too fatigued.
luv as always Sue
 

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I want to thank everyone for their advice on this site. I have a Medicine Hat Paint, Due date unknown, that I noticed yesterday that her bag was pulsating, when I got up this morning it was full of milk, I was unable to get close to her to see if she was dripping or what color if there was any. Has anyone else ever watched as the milk entered into the bag? She has shown every sign for 1st stage labor but the milk. How long does it take after she fills up?

First time having a foal, Nervouse and Excited all at once.


Kris

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Tonya
Nursing Foal
Username: Justme

Post Number: 17
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kris-
You can’t always go by the bag. My mare was overdue and had a 1/2 full bag for almost a month and some mares don’t even wax. So you can’t always go by the norm. Your big signs to look for are jello like softening around her rear end muscles from top of her tail mid way down the sides, and an elongated puffy vulva. Usually happens soon after. My mare a week prior to foaling was bashing her butt on the barn side and panel gates often, rested lying down, she never paced or pawed, but was very bitchy to so say the least. After all the waiting and checking in the middle of the night, I missed the birth by an hour. She was just expelling her afterbirth as I got out there, I did however get to help baby find the teat for the first time. She had him like a champ and it was her first foal. Good luck and best wishes for a healthy foal and Mama after all is said and done!
- Tonya
 

Beverly Outlaw
Weanling
Username: Outlawpaints

Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare is due in Dec. And she has almost a full udder now. vet came out to check her to just make sure she was ok and had no placentitus. She is just a very seasoned mare.. she has had many foals. i missed the last one by about 10 minutes. foals feet had just came out as i walked (ran very fast) back there and checked... then we had a maiden this year that foaled and i checked her every 15 minutes the last couple of days and I was so tired and she seemed to have no signs she was even close so as I went to bed I told my husband before he left for work in the morning 4:00a.m. to look for the baby because i know it would be out there... "Missed that one by 10 or 15 minutes. No signs whatso ever.... Only squishy butt and the last night I checked and she finally had cloudy looking fluid (milk) in her teats. so just keep a look at her milk too.. i think that is the most reliable sign... unfortunately they dont readthe book or watch the calendar.....LOL
 

Kris Gray
Neonate
Username: Littlekpine

Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tonya and Beverly Thank you so much for both your reponse. I have been watching Ladybug all day, she's hitting her belly with her nose and rolling on the ground alot, still full of milk, but moody as all heck and wont let me near her to check for waxing or milk. I figured when she come's in tonight from our pasture, I can have a better look. I feel so lost, this is all new to me, and I have three more mares to go after her..All bred to our appy. stud colt. we also have a black and white paint stud, but he's still a little young to be a studly man.

Kris
 

Beverly Outlaw
Weanling
Username: Outlawpaints

Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I feel for you Kris... Sounds like she is really close. Just keep looking. The real trick is looking where she cant see you.. They like to do it when you least expect it. You have heard that old saying " A watched pot never boils" I am sure! LOL.. That is the way mares are... Dont feel lost. That is what we are all here for !!!! Once the first one comes, you won't be new at it anymore and then you will be an old pro in no time... This is always a learning experience. It never hurts to learn a little more and there's always something else to learn. LOL.
Also sometimes I know you might feel looney but thats ok too... Have any pictures you can share? I would love to see your little black and white stud. even if he is alittle one yet. pretty soon you will be on here with news of the new arrival!!! and then before you know it you will be saying...it's FINALLY over and then you will breed back for next year!!! Good Luck.. We are here for you!!!
 

amy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 68.113.231.26
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope everyting goes well with everyones foals. I too would also like to see those pictues of foals, and stud colt! Everyone seems to be extremly busy as am I. Trying to find another stud to breed back to for next year is such a challenge! They should be closer to me! WEll I'll be waiting for pictures! I'll try to post some recenct one of topper if i can!
 

Kris Gray
Neonate
Username: Littlekpine

Post Number: 3
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, I've taken some pictures of Cupids Hot Shot Love (Hottie),You will have to excuse him, it's been raining this morning and he was out playing in the mud.I do have a video of Hottie this morning playing if you would like to see it I can send it over, just need an E~mail address. As for Ladybug, Her bag is back to nothing again this morning, she's still rubbing and rolling and kicking the belly, it's kinda comical. She's driving me crazy...
Kris
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amy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 68.113.231.26
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

he's beautiful!!! HAHA i love him. how old is he?
 

Kris Gray
Neonate
Username: Littlekpine

Post Number: 4
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Amy, Thank You, he is my sweetie, but defiantly knows he's a BOY!!! He just turned one on June 1st..

Kris
 

amy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 68.113.231.26
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

he is just georgus! I love him!
 

Jaine Gallegos (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.49.132.169
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare (Aust. stock horse 15hh. P2 G1) was due to foal yesterday. (unplanned pregnancy to a clydesdale cross -a small variety thank heavens) and we just noticed in the last 2 days a hard lump of fat between her front legs which then seems to extend back onto her belly ligaments which run from the girth to way out each side of the pregnant belly. It doesn't seem overly uncomfortable, and is very uniform, but is very much a 'grabbable' lump of hard fat. She is in very good nick,.. even a little too good, but not extremely obese. Someone asked my husband if she has this lump, but he didn't think to ask what it was. He just thought I'd already asked the other guy!!!
I hope you can give me some insight into this, as everytime I type 'lump' and 'fat' into search engine in relation to 'pregnant mare', I get horrible results!!! She is eating well and seems happy. Any ideas. I'm an old horse woman, but never bred any of my own!!!
She has all the othr signs..vulva,.. croup relaxed,...BIG udder,..movements,...the lot!!!
Hopefully it will be soon, but this lump of fat is abit of a worry.
Ta. Jaine in norhtern NSW Australia
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Jos

Post Number: 10328
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although of course it's impossible to say with certainty without seeing the animal, in all probability what you are seeing is oedema. This is not uncommon in some pregnant mares, and is really of no consequence in most cases. Can you indent the mass if you press your fingertip into it, leaving behind a dent when you remove your finger? If so, it is called "pitting oedema".

One word of caution about your post... the words "due date" and "mare" cannot appear in the same sentence! :-) Take a look at the article that asks is my mare overdue? for an explanation of that!
 

Jaine Gallegos (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.49.132.1
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tanks for your reply Jos. This is most definitely not oedema. I am a nurse, and while her udder appears oedematous (ie pitting) this lump is very much a fatty mass. It has a definite starting edge at the front, but no real ending, as it continues on to these large ligaments, which are also very pronounced.
It is very 'grabbable', but not mobile, if that makes sense!! You can almost put your finger under the leading edge. When I say she was due, I realise there is abit of room to move, it's just that I know the exact service date, as the rogue stallion, also attacked her gelding mate over the fence. He grabbed it's neck, and dragged him into the fence, causing alot of damage to his legs, and a HUGE abcess on his neck, which ended up with him becoming systemically infected etc but $3000 later he is somewhat recovered. The stallion got 'Lin' over the fence aswell!! That was Nov 4th. last year!!
Could it be because the stallion was clydesdale cross, and the foal may be big that she has this 'lump'? Maybe it's a reinforcing of the abdo ligaments. She doesn't look overly huge, but I have learnt in the labour ward that that is no real indicator!!! Thnx Jaine
 

Jaine Gallegos) (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 203.49.132.1
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos, just read that article you suggested. I could be in for abit of a wait!!! Put it this way ....day 340 was yesterday!!!!
 

Brittany Powers
Neonate
Username: Bridgetsdue

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi my name is Brittany, I have a mare that is due on the 28th of April. I got her bred and have only had her for a little over a week so I don't really know what she normaly looks like. She has already droped in her stomach since I got her and her bags are not compleetly full and have some slack yet if I squeez them I can get milk out incredalby easy. she has already had 2 foal and they were early but I don't know how early. She is realxed in her vulva. SHe is kind of sluggish but she is a full percheron so that is a normal trate I belive. she loves to roll in her paddock but she may just like to get dirty not sure again I just got her. This is my first time foaling out so I don't know if we are close or if I should have a few more weeks until her due date. I live right next to my barn but work pretty far away so I want to know when I should start staying home with her!! any tips woudl be great thanks so much

Brittany
 

Deena
Breeding Stock
Username: Morganslil1

Post Number: 339
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brittany it would help if you could post pics of your mare.Mares can and will be very unpredictable so get ready for an unforgettable experience.
 

Brittany Powers
Neonate
Username: Bridgetsdue

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would love to ad pics but I don't know how. Let me know and I'll see if I can stick some in.
 

Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj

Post Number: 364
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Photobucket.com is a free site to add pictures. The site will walk you through the process. Once they are added, you copy the box underneath the pic marked URL and paste it into your post. This will allow people to see your pictures. Hint : when setting up your account, be sure to check the box that says "share your pictures" or it will require a password to veiw. By sharing, no one can edit your pics, just look at them.
 

Brittany Powers
Neonate
Username: Bridgetsdue

Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey thanks for the info. As soon as I can steal a digital camera I will do that. For now I still am looking for some help!!! Her Stomach has dropped so much in just the last day taht her hips look sunken in!!! She has never been really wide. Acctually when I first got her I doubted that she was really that preg. she has a full utter but the fuid is still clear. She does have a bit of a milk vein forming and all of her but is slack and jiggily. Again she is not due for another 15-20 days but I think that she may go early. Any ideas?



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