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Stallion introduction

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moya byrne
Neonate
Username: Delahoya

Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any thoughts on introductions of stallions (will be my first) to a new environment and pasture?
This boy is 5 years old and been a show horse for the last couple of years.
He's never bred and would be at a friends barn with 2 mares and one gelding.
The stallion has been kept in a stall but worked 6 days a week.
I would plan on working him 3-4 and him having pasture time.
I don't want to risk him hurting the gelding so he will be pastured solo.
I know he's going to call out because he's in new place, but how much or how long should I let it on for?
He's wonderful to handle now and has no bad habits, I don't want the new surroundings to be an excuse for his manners to slide.
What should I expect?
As far as herd keeping him, the current handler says he hasn't been kept with other horses so she wouldn't recommend it, plus he's large.
Has anyone had success with keeping their stallion with geldings?

thanks
Moya
 

Emma
Breeding Stock
Username: Emma

Post Number: 175
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Moya, we bought our stallion as a 10yo. He was very quiet and moved to our place in the middle of breeding season. We did the wrong thing first up by putting him in our old stallions paddock (even though it had been rested for a month). Hewalked the fences and yelled at any horse that moved and was a mental mess. The paddock he was in ran along the bottom of all our paddocks and he could see all the girls. We were following his old owners advice by putting him where he could see everything.
We ended up moving him to the furtherest paddock from all the mares. He can still see them but seems a lot more relaxed. We put weaners in next to him to keep him company and he is a much less noisy and a lot more relaxed.
I would try and release him into a small 1/4 acre paddock to start with and away from other horses (so they dont stir him up more) then once he has vent all that pent up energy you can let him into a bigger paddock and finally once settled there let him go in a paddock next to the gelding. I wouldn;t put them together though, he should be happy enough to just see him over the fence.
 

Magic_flame
Neonate
Username: Magic_flame

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have my 9 month old colt next to my gelding and intend to keep them together eventually. I am introducing them gradually. My gelding has already attacked him over the fence (second day) is was my mistake I should have had a double fence,I have now! I'm gradually moving the double fence closer together and have hand grazed them 2 days ago together which was fine. Last night I took my gelding into the colts feild and let him graze with the colt loose, they sniffed each other and seem ok. It will be a while before I trust my gelding but I can tell he's getting used to the little one. I hope they will live together happily? Anyone one else keep a gelding with a stallion/colt?
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 268
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a stallion, 2 geldings, and a 12 month old colt. The 2 geldings and colt are in pasture together. One gelding does not even pay him any attention (he is old) the other is his best friend and has been since he was about 3 months. My stallion and old gelding get along fine, but the other one is a different story. I put them together twice and they chased each other and fought the entire time they were together. Have not put stallion and colt together.
 

Alicia Roppel
Neonate
Username: Maddie

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We aquired a 9 year old stallion last year who had been on 24/7 solitary turnout, but in sight of other horses. Upon arrival he settled in well. We live covered him with one of our mares and they are now turned out together. We've had no issues with this set up and he's very happy to have the company. I haven't tried turning him out with our gelding though. I'm not sure how that would go over with mares in heat close by on our farm.
 

Colleen Beck
Breeding Stock
Username: Gypsycreations

Post Number: 178
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our Gypsy Cob stallion would kill our geldings if he was out with them, even tho he is smaller. I think you are right to keep your stud away from the gelding. We turn our stallion in with pregnant mares, but I am not comfortable putting him with foals. I know some do it quite successfully. Right now he is in a pasture alone, but adjacent to three mares - all pregnant and one with a foal.
 

cathy Cook
Breeding Stock
Username: Razmacat

Post Number: 217
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stallions are expected to fight, so I would do the right thing and keep him solo.
 

Missrightwing
Neonate
Username: Missrightwing

Post Number: 9
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it depends on the situation, Cathy. The stud at our barn runs free with the mares, babies, and my colt during the year, so I don't think that there is a "right" thing to do here. I think it all depends on the horse and, of course, how he was socialized.
 

Megan A Brown
Breeding Stock
Username: Fabmeg

Post Number: 203
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My pony stud is a bully and will beat on gelding 3 times his size, but my QH stud is good friends with his gelding and they live in adjacent pens where they can scratch each other over the fence all year long. So I agree it totally depends on the horse.
 

Pita
Weanling
Username: Pita

Post Number: 34
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My stallion is 10 and I have had him since he was a baby. He is really a good boy, and has been shown and turned out with and with out horses as a 3 year old, but once she starting breeding he started challenging geldings while in pasture next to each other, and wants to kill only two of them as they walk by his stall. They are my more domiant geldings. I turn my stallion where he can see others, and he also can be next to my older stallion or babies.

You would never no he was a stallion in the arena.

When I first starting breeding my stallion some of the best advise I was given.

use different halters when breeding,
Do not tease with tack on.
During breeding season I drop his work load almost 90 % but everyday I brush and talk to him other than teasing him. THis keeps him totally sane.

I always breed in the same spot.
It's funny I don't know if horses can see color but I always use a leather halter on him for work/show etc but use a RED Nylon one for breeding if he sees that halter Instantly he is screaming, rearing in his stall, and ready for the mare.

Good Luck


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