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Mounting without Erection

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Mike D (210.84.54.232)
Posted on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 3 1/2 yr Arab Colt that has served for the last two seasons. I run him with the Mares, paddock serve and hand serve at times. He is a very calm and gentle Colt and easily handled and is also currently being riden in the company of Mares. He is continually checks his Mares and when they are receptive will mount but usually mounts without an Erection for the first 2 or 3 times but eventually will join. The Mares at times will get impatient with him and may kick out.

Is this a normal behaviour for the Colt or is this a lack of labido ? He has one foal on the ground and one preg Mare although he has served two other mares this season without success.
 

Kelly (63.172.47.161)
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He started breeding early on and may need a bit of stimulation.

Try removing him from the mares for a period of time each day. When you return him, make certain that only one mare is ready for breeding per day. He has no competition for these mares, and feels no urgency to get them bred. Limit his access to the mares and he may have renewed interest in breeding.
 

Belinda Hameister
Posted From: 144.134.129.247
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I totaly disagree with Kelly. It is natural for stallions to mount without a erection, it is called "dry mounting" and Mike D you had the answer to this all along, "the mares sometimes kick out" but why do they actually kick out! They may be going out of season or just coming into season. Your stallion is only doing what is natural, protecting himself. He is testing the mare's receptiveness. If you sat out there and watched him over the mare's heat cycle you will notice that he will dry mount more at the start of the cycle than at the 4th or 5th day and then as she go's out of season he will do it more again.
Stallions dry mount for the same reason that they pull they're testicles up, and why they tease the mares, TO PROTECT themselves.
So my advise is to let him do what is natual instinct.
 

TX Breeder
Posted From: 199.3.209.118
Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kelly and Belinda both have good tips. What ever the reason for his hesitancy, you may want to use Kelly's suggestion to help him regain his confidence. I have done this a number of times, and it does help them get on with the job. Some stallions are slower to breed and this can be annoying as well as very time consuming.
 

kimk
Posted From: 12.96.250.250
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is what we do with our stallion, He is not kept with the mares first off,what you don't have you want more of :-), so when he does come in contact with a mare in season he is ready. Second off we tease the mares through a stall, over a fence something where he feels safe, and once we see that is is going to drop we take the two to a safe breeding area. Alot of times we tease with mare and handler on one side of the fence and stallion and handler on the other. Once the mare and stallion show interest,the stallion is walked to the side that the mare is on, and i, the mare handler turns her around so that her head is facing the fence and i will hold the mares lunge line over the fence so that i am out of the way of the two horses and stallion handler. This has been very effective way for us. Then my husband(the stallion handler) does not allow our stallion to mount before he is ready. All the talking between the two horses is already done, the forplay has taken place and in a short time we are good to go. It was very important to start this from a young age, we always make sure that we also use different equiptment during breeding so the stallion is aware of what is expected of him durning this time.

This is how a long time breeder of paints, qh, and tb told me how to do it and it has been most successful. Best of luck


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