I know some people who pasture breed their stallion. they left him out with their mare for two full days. They didn't even bring him in @ night? He beat up the mare a bit. Should this be done? Is it an effective way to breed?? Is it dangerous?? Thank You!!
KhakiinKhakis!
Kelly (63.172.47.217)
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2001 - 01:30 am:
It is an effective way to breed.It can be dangerous if the stallion is overly aggressive, and the mare is not in standing estrus.
If the stallion had been successfully pasture bred in the past, and the mare is not a maiden mare, all should go well. You can expect that a maiden mare would not be as receptive to the advances of the stallion. After she finds out what it is all about, subsequent breedings should go well.
A well mannered or experienced stallion will not mount a mare until he detects a strong estrus. Therefore, leaving them together should not present any problems. It is very natural for the stallion and mare to "pair" up until her cycle is through. If the mare is in danger of being truely injured, by all means, remove her. It is common to have a little biting or kicking going on. If they are indeed inflicting wounds on each other, that is a different matter.
KhakiinKhakis! (204.189.92.17)
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2001 - 02:21 pm:
Well, this stallion lunged at the mare a few times a left a large cut on her breast area. they still said it isnt dangerous and the mare never came into estrus.
Kelly (63.172.47.188)
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2001 - 05:43 pm:
If she isn't ready, and the stallion is attacking her, she may not show to him. He may back off and leave her alone now,( we can only hope ). When she does finally come in to heat, maybe things will change.
GJ (152.163.204.188)
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2001 - 10:03 am:
Our stud has been in the pasture with our 4 mares for 4 years now with no problems.
KhakiinKhakis!! (208.23.115.246)
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2001 - 01:12 pm:
This mare hasn't come into heat still, she is a 17 year old maiden mare. I hope they take her out of the pasture because she had to get 6 staples put in he upper breast area today. Now, maybe they will come to their senses!! This stallion seems to be pretty agressive. I know that it is ok for a stallion to be out with a mare, but this is just CRUEL! I hate to see ignorant people treat their animals like this!!!!
Kelly (63.172.47.195)
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2001 - 04:37 pm:
I understand how you feel, it can get pretty hard to watch, when people THINK that they know what their doing and they DON'T.
Anonymous (152.163.204.176)
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2001 - 04:47 pm:
I resent being called ignorant. My stud and my mares get along fine. None have ever even had a scrach from fighting. I have handled horses all of my 55 years and never lost one to anything but old age.
Dear Anonymous- I can find no previous postings from you on this subject. I for one, do not assume that you are ignorant.
I have pasture bred my mares and stallion for many years as well, with no problems, as you have. My comment was in respect to the novice breeders that do not take the time to learn about the breeding process. They can indanger themselves as well as their livestock.
I am sure that you will agree that not all stallions are suited for pasture breeding, or that all handlers are as informed as they could be. It is not directed at you, or pasture breeders in total.
KhakiinKhakis! (208.23.114.112)
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2001 - 10:38 pm:
I wasnt calling people like you who have calm stallions ignorant, just people who are ignorant because they dont care about what happens to the mare. These people are ignorant because they don't know what they are doing. You ARE NOT ignorant if you know what you are doing!!
Carol (208.142.197.2)
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 04:27 pm:
This is interesting - my first time to stop by this site! I am adding my opinion - for what it's worth. I have had no problems allowing my 8 yr. old stallion and mares run together! My Stallion is handled and ridden often. I ride him in parades, trail rides and many other events where mares are present throughout the year, and have never experienced a problem. My belief is that if the stallion is used for one purpose (breeding)then he becomes acclimated to the one agenda. I have been very successful with 3 Stallions, 2 of which I raised, and another I purchased as a 4 year old. Each of my Stallions are productive and calm when covering the mare, whether in a pasture or hand breeding. I do not have experience in AI. Another aspect is I do not over-breed! I do stand my stallions to outside mares. My Paint stallion has sired 11 babies. We are expecting four 2003 babies of our own and another 5 to outside mares. I (a female) handle, ride and show my Paint Stallion. He is ridden with a simple dog-bone snaffle. My point is ultimately the horse is an animal, with same instincts and behaves the way he is handled. I've been successfully breeding, showing and riding competively for over 27 years.
Anonymous (159.134.159.138)
Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 11:52 am:
Have just read this discussion. We pasture breed one stallion each year after early summer, he is ridden all winter. He covers mares with foals in hand but only barren/maiden run out with him for safety purposes. If the mare is OK fertility wise (i.e. not dirty inside) there is never a problem but if she is "wrong" he will bully her away from the other mares. He will check her out when she is let into the field, at a gallop, then leave her till she joins the gang. If she doesnt join up within a short while we normally take her away as the odds are she is judged by the stallion NOT to be a suitable member of the herd. We try to only introduce new mares when they are in season but one of the reasons mares visit this horse is to come on naturally.The biggest risk in the paddock is to the stallion by jealous mares. He gets kicked while he is servicing another mare, so he is as quick as a ram as soon as she is willing and he judges her to be right.
I have been keeping my miniature stallion with the mare I want him to breed with for several months now. She is now in foal and I want to continue to keep him with her, so as not to separate him for equine company. He is calm and both are quite happy.
John Keleher (80.40.42.239)
Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:10 pm:
Come on folks join the modern world !! There is absolutely know reason these days to run a Stallion with a mare. We stand five stallions on a commercial basis and would not dream of it. It is not only dangerous for the Stallion - would you risk a Stallion worth $25000 ? It is also dangerous for the mare and any other mares in the group who may inadvertently get in the way. Amateurs may still use this method but a professional stud will only use either in-hand covering or Artificial Insemination.
AMR (206.222.211.33)
Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:24 pm:
Dear John In the modern world, or shall I say in Nebraska, there are many large ranches that still turn the studs out to pasture with the mares. "In cattle pastures with barbed wire fences" AQHA Champions, NRHA Reserve Futurity Champions, Rodeo horses that have won tens of thousands of dollars and sired such and the list goes on down to the family pet. These stud are smart know how to get around and survive and there colts grow up the same. Some are worth more than $25,000 and they know how to behave around other horses because they have learned from the mares, and man. And yes many of these places are owned and run by "profesionals"
Kim in Alabama (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 206.148.148.30
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:19 am:
I have had my stud now for almost 3 years, last year I bought a 4 1/2 year old mare and her 8 month old stud colt. In late March my stud horse successfully breed our mare. Now, the both of them have been together since we brought her home. We seperated the young colt because he wouldn't ween at 9 months old. It is almost time for her to foal and I want to know if or when I need to seperate my stud from my mare. When we tried to seperate them before, they both became uncontrollable running up and down the fence line until we put them back together. What do you suggest? Will the stud hurt the foal? My mare is arabian and she is the dominant one. He knows she's boss. He lets her eat first then he will join in and eat with her.
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