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Milk coming out of nose

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NL
Neonate
Username: Easykeeper

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a colt that is 4 days old and he started having milk come out of his nose after nursing. Is this a clef palate issue?

I asked two vets and various breeders and everyone seemed to have mixed opinions... some say to keep an eye on it, some say don't worry at all.

Any opinions from folks here?

I've never experienced this before and this is my 6th foal. Thanks!
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Jos

Post Number: 10716
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds as though it may be. Note that manual palpation of the palate may not identify a cleft, while endoscopic evaluation may. Some clefts, if very small, may close sufficiently that there will not be a significant ongoing problem. Some don't. Surgery to repair tends to be quite expensive, so unless that is an option, evaluation and observation are probably your best route at the moment. I would have the evaluation performed (with endoscope) as that will give you a "base line" upon which to judge future improvements (or lack thereof).
 

Gynna Meiller
Breeding Stock
Username: Jw_kings_excalibur

Post Number: 132
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If its something that just sarted then it may be that you mare is just a milk wagon and he is nursing to fast to swallow. Does he do it every time he nurses? I would have a vet out to make sure anyway. Here is hoping thats its just your mare producing an abudance of milk only..gynna
 

NL
Neonate
Username: Easykeeper

Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sorry to report that I lost the colt this afternoon. He was nursing and knickering to me this morning at 9 am - perky and functional. By 12 (noon) he was refusing to get up, had a temp of 103 and never made it to the clinic.

Vet thinks pneumonia or might be something in his system that was very toxic or hit his immunity hard. I'm so sad, but glad he did not suffer. I'm thankful the mare is okay and hoping to breed again down the road. What a scary and sad day.

 

Daniel Crouse
Yearling
Username: Sneakers17

Post Number: 60
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NL im extremely sorry for your loss; words can't describe the sorrow I feel for you and your mare.

Im just throwing this out there and jos could verify or correct me but could it be jaundice or Isohemolytic icterus.

again im sorry
 

Faye Gallagher
Neonate
Username: Cazdan_arabians

Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello NL
My heart goes out to you and especially the mare. I know they grieve I had the same thing happen. The problem with my foal was that he had bruised his throat badly when he got caught in a fence. The bruising apparently weakened the throat and allowed the milk to come back and get into its lungs. He literally drowned.
Faye
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 105
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NL,

I am so sorry for your loss. It is heartbreaking to have a much wanted foal and have things end this way. I lost a foal in April of this year. It was very hard to watch my mare grieve. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Jan
 

Kathee McGuire
Breeding Stock
Username: Katheekj

Post Number: 501
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NL - what a tragic loss. I am so sorry.
 

True Colours Farm
Neonate
Username: Truecoloursfarm

Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am so sorry as well ... based on what you said I would bet it WAS a cleft palate foal and he was aspirating milk into his lungs as he was nursing, hence the pneumonia ...

I speak from experience, unfortunately ...

A few years back I had a cleft palate foal as well and we were contemplating surgery on him, but when we took him to Guelph to get him scoped (at 4 days of age) he had enough fluid in his lungs already that they felt he would succumb on the table even before they had a chance to correct the issue

Most if not all cleft palate foals do end up dying if not being euthanized. There is literally nothing you could have done for him ...

Big {{{HUGS}}}
 

kim tippy
Neonate
Username: Ktippy

Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

had a colt 4 days ago had colic on 3 day and today. yes it has had bowl movement and urined. Mare has been on senior feed since its birth,because of worms and someone elses neglect. It is a miracle this colt has lived as long as it has. Is the colic cause by the mare's too rich of feed and what can be done. Last bowl movement was medium to bright orange.
 

kim tippy
Neonate
Username: Ktippy

Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

had a colt 4 days ago had colic on 3 day and today. yes it has had bowl movement and urined. Mare has been on senior feed since its birth,because of worms and someone elses neglect. It is a miracle this colt has lived as long as it has. Is the colic cause by the mare's too rich of feed and what can be done. Last bowl movement was medium to bright orange.



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