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Worming mare and foal heat scours

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Paula Rollins
Neonate
Username: Paula

Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi I have read that if you worm the mare the day of the delivery that it will stop the foal from getting the foal heat scours. The thought is that parasites being shed in the mares milk are what causes the scours in the foal. Is this true and is it safe for mare and foal to be wormed on the day of birth? Also has anyone done this and has it worked? thanks!
 

Deena
Breeding Stock
Username: Morganslil1

Post Number: 246
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh yeah it works im a believer.
 

Paula Rollins
Neonate
Username: Paula

Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Deena,I am going to try it this spring, I just found a thread that explains my concerns and answered my questions, Thanks again
 

Gynna Meiller
Breeding Stock
Username: Jw_kings_excalibur

Post Number: 112
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have done it for years and have NEVER had a case of scours in my foals! I use only ivemtrine(sp) types of de-wormers as they are safe for pregnant and lactating mares..good luck with your foal!
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10495
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The two advantages of using Ivermectin within 12 hours of foaling are seperate and distinct, not connected:
  1. It prevents the transfer of the larvae of Strongylus westerii in the mares milk to the foal;
  2. It reduces or eliminates the incidence of foal heat scours.
Essentially as was outlined above, but they are not connected - the worms do not cause the scours. It is now thought that the scouring is as a result of the foal consuming environmental "bugs" and having a slightly upset stomach.

No matter the details - it's still worth doing for the end result!!! :-)
 

Paula Rollins
Neonate
Username: Paula

Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos, do you mean bacteria from the udder and other environmental places or parasites from manure and soil? Very interesting,so it helps because the foal is recieving some of the ivermectin in the milk? Why does it stop the upset stomach? Thanks for your reply!
 

Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 393
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It stops the transfer of the parasite in the mares milk, there fore not giving them the squirts. It is believed that the scours are from the introduction of the parasite into the foal through the milk and not related to the foal heat just by accident that the foal heat and scours occur at the same time.
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10498
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By "bugs" I meant environmental pathogens (bacteria).

It's not understood why the Ivermectin has an impact on the foal as far as reducing or eliminating the scours are concerned - we're just glad it does!! :-)

Kim: As you will notice in my post above "foal heat" scours are NOT caused by the transfer of Strongylus westerii larvae in the mares milk.
 

Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 395
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, I see that in your post Jos, from things I seem to have read and understanding they were connecting the two together. scours/paraisite and not connecting the scours/foal heat. If this is not the case how does the ivermectrin affect the foal in order not to create scours, that happens about the same time as the foal heat?
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10499
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As previously noted, it's not clear why the Ivermectin has an impact on the foal as far as reducing the scours are concerned, but it is known that the scours are not caused by Strogylus westerii.
 

Rebecca Kate Smith
Weanling
Username: Iheartskeetles

Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i wormed my mare 15 minutes after foaling with zimectrin as reccomended by the people of these boards. no scours or diarrhea as of yet and mare is doing fine. i'll let you know how the next couple of weeks goes. so far the foal is 3 days old.
 

Meghan Nichols
Neonate
Username: Mekn

Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare foaled yesterday. I have not wormed her yet. Should I go ahead now or is it too late?
 

Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 294
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

de-worm that mare!
AND we want pics ASAP :-)
 

Meghan Nichols
Neonate
Username: Mekn

Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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