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Foal 5 days old, just found out IgG under 400 and acting mellow

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Allison
Breeding Stock
Username: Jumbletwist

Post Number: 255
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NEED ADVICE FOR A FRIEND:

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I just got in a cute little mare to train, she has a 4 day old filly. The owner told me that the foal was separated from mom at birth and didn't get to nurse for at least 8 hours maybe more. I think the foal is depressed, and I am worried it didn't get it's colostrum soon enough. The lady was keeping the foal in a filthy manure filled pen. I did a google search (Sunday, no vet) but wasn't able to find a definitive answer as to

1 if given the test (igG) and are deficient, can they be helped after 5 days?
2 what symptoms would they show if defiecient?

Either it's a very very mellow foal or it's not feeling great. It is nursing now. Anyone know more about this?
 

Allison
Breeding Stock
Username: Jumbletwist

Post Number: 256
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR:

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Well, I spent the entire day at the vet clinic. Filly tested below 400, which is bad. She was running a temp (103) had an elevated white blood count. She was also dehydrated.

She got the plasma, two bags of dextrose saline, antibiotics, probiotics.

I got a bill for $400 bucks which means I am now the not so proud owner. I had a hard decision to make, and I am betting she would have died if she hadn't gotten the plasma . She is still weak and dull, but I'm hoping she will make it. Owner was not willing to spend the $ so I took her.

WHAT SHOULD REALISTICLY BE EXPECTED IN THE NEXT WEEK, WHAT TO BE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT ACTIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY WITH THIS FOAL? HAS ENOUGH BEEN DONE OR IS THERE MORE TO WORRY ABOUT IN THIS CASE? THANKS!!
 

Cjskip
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1296
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my gosh. How lucky for this little filly that your friend intervened! Might you suggest your friend become a member on here? Please tell her/him that I and I'm sure others that read this, applaud her/him.

I hope someone will give some definitive answers, as all I can do is guess and that doesn't help, but I'm sending my hope that all will turn out well and I am interested in the answer to these questions as well.
 

Ad TB
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 1034
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well done for doing the correct thing. If the plasma was given and she's on antibiotics everything fingers crossed 'should' be ok! Take her temperature twice a day, ensure she is sucking regularly, make sure she's not getting dehydrated. Make sure the mare has adequate feed to produce good quality milk. Check and dip her navel and make sure it's dry and not swoolen, wet or has pus on it. Check for any signs of joint swelling or lameness. Check for scouring. Apart from that good luck
 

Allison
Breeding Stock
Username: Jumbletwist

Post Number: 259
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you! I gave her the website address last night, but I thought I should get a jump on it for her. I hope to see her on here too. This is the lady that I gave my Belgium WB mare to in SD. The foal is adorable, I will try to copy her pic and post it (or get her on here to do it if she has time). She really did a good deed, didn't she!? Anymore advice is welcome! She said the foal has perked up a bit now so that is encouraging! Thanks again!
 

Sharon McGroarty
Neonate
Username: Reinnin4fun

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello!

I'm the sucker with the poor little filly who didn't get a good start in life. Two days after the plasma she seems improved but she appears to be getting dehydrated again, so we may have to do more fluids.

Any advice is appeciated, I am hopeful she will make it.

Thanks!
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 3371
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sharon, nice to meet you. Can't say I have any advice, except that if it "seems" something isn't right, get veterinary intervention immediately, don't wait around and wonder about it. Foals can tank very quickly, especially this young. sounds as if you are doing everything you should....so glad this foal is now with you instead of the other lady. You have a kind heart....very nice :-)
 

Ad TB
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 1036
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know any foal I've had that's been dehydrated we've had to do several days of fluids. The vet usually comes out and puts in the IV line and leaves it in and then we put in the fluids sometimes as much as a litre every 2 hours all through the night until the foal perks up, temp comes down and the foal is sucking well. The initial two litres of fluids may not have been sufficient.
 

Cjskip
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1299
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome Sharon! Glad to hear the foal is better. I'm sure she will continue to get better with intervention of fluids. Sounds like AdTB gave you a lot of excellent information, which I am going to save for the future.

If you can, we'd love pictures. And I am so curious-why the heck did the previous owner keep the foal separated from her mother for 8 hours?????
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 3374
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

perhaps she was born under a fence, and got up on the wrong side of it.
 

Allison
Breeding Stock
Username: Jumbletwist

Post Number: 265
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Filly Sharon saved:

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Cjskip
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1304
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana, the foal, or the previous owner? LOL.

What a cute little thing! I hope she doing well now.
 

Sharon
Neonate
Username: Reinnin4fun

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please see post on hypoxemic foal for follow up.



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