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Milk coming out of foals nose while nursing...

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Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 181
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare Areselle foaled out on 4/14. Vet came out and gave the colt a clean bill of health. At that time it was noted that every time he nursed that milk would stream out his nose. Vet check and said that he did not have any fluid in his lungs nor any reason that she could see for it to be happening at the time. Said that if it was still happening after 3 days to call and have them come back out. So we are now on day 3 and its not changed at all... any thoughts....
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 3205
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have only had one do this, and she did it all the way till weaning. No idea why...but it didn't affect her. She was a very voracious nurser, i always just assumed she was eating too fast LOL
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 2805
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You should have the foal checked for the presence of a cleft palate. These may be so far back in the mouth that it is impossible to identify it digitally with the foal standing, and it may be necessary to anaesthetize the foal in order to get a good evaluation.
 

Megan C
Nursing Foal
Username: Drumdoch23

Post Number: 11
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that a cleft palate should be ruled out,
but I thought that I would mention that I had a pony that would spurt water out his nose if he ever "chugged" at the trough. he was completely healthy... just greedy at the water trough.
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 182
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The vet will be out shortly. She said that they had ruled out a cleft palate. They are going to give him a vitamin E and Selenuim shot, to see if that helps. They said that if it is still an issue in a week they will scope him. His lungs and every thing sound good still.
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2807
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How did they rule out the cleft palate?
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 183
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They opened his mouth and looked at it and put their hands in and felt the roof of his mouth way back, it looked like.
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2808
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please review my original post on the topic. Hopefully it is not a cleft palate, but as I noted a digital examination standing may be inadequate to rule it out and anaesthetizing may be required (possibly with a videoendoscope).
 

Cjskip
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1247
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amanda, sure hope it doesn't have a cleft palate. Keep us posted. I, for one, will interested in the outcome. I am hoping for the best for you and the foal.
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 184
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vet came out today and scoped baby he has a soft cleft palate. We put him down this moring.
Thanks for all the info and support.
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 3234
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amanda, I am so sorry to hear this. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
 

sally
Breeding Stock
Username: Sally_c

Post Number: 121
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am so sorry for your loss Amanda, my thoughts are with you.
 

Marilyn Lemke
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 2659
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amanda, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. That is horrible news!!! I never knew horses could have a cleft palate, but then again, it never even entered my mind before this post. It's such a shame...
 

Dorthy Brown
Breeding Stock
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 442
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aw i am so sorry
 

Cindy Holland
Breeding Stock
Username: Iagrl

Post Number: 165
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amanda, I'm so sorry for your loss. I know my sister had a foal a few years back that also had a cleft palate. The foal was leaking milk out his nose when he nursed and the milk went into his lungs. They had to put the foal down since he was getting sick. I feel for you!
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 2694
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am heartbroken for you...sending warm hugs.
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 185
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for all the kind words and thoughts everyone. Mom is taking the loss of her foal hard.. We are thinking we will rebred her on her 30 day heat, maybe that will help her some along with time....
 

Kay B. Jones,Nova born 2/24
Breeding Stock
Username: Kaybjones

Post Number: 455
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am sad for you and momma. Thinking of you both.
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 2695
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know when my mare lost her foal we had to sedate her the first 24 hours..it is hearbreaking to hear them calling and searching and frantic. I also had to do lots of hand walking to help her milk dry up because it was just streaming....I am so sorry. This really sucks big time.
 

Terry Waechter P.R.E. foals
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Watchman

Post Number: 1070
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a shame...so sorry...hope your mare recovers soon and your heart heals...
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 186
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, April 23, 2010 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone, Areselle is doing better she is turned out with a friend and is calling and searching less each day for her baby. It was a hard thing to go threw but its all part of breeding these great animals..
 

Cjskip
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1255
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amanda, I have been offline for a few days and just saw this.
I am so, so sorry. My thoughts are with you and your mare.

Every year we hear stories of lost foals from one cause or another. It is always very sad. I can't imagine losing one. Hugs.
 

Marilyn Lemke
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 2679
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How are you holding up Amanda? It's so hard to lose a foal and especially hard to watch a greaving mare.
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 187
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We are doing ok. Areselle seems to be doing better. :-) we are looking at few different studs for her. I hope that it goes well next time...
 

Cjskip
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1259
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bet it will Amanda. Hope you find a wonderful stallion for your mare.
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 188
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will be taking Areselle to meet a foal that lost its mom today. Any advice on the best way to go about interducing them would be great.



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