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My colt is hurting his arthritic mama-should I wean early?

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Cjskip
Breeding Stock
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 653
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a colt that was born May 6th. He is doing great and is eating pelleted food as well as hay.

My mare has an old injury of her hind quarters-major muscle injury. She is having a hard time with his frequent rearing and mounting behavior. She tries to kick him, but can't quite do it quick enough. I noticed tonight that she is even stiffer than normal and just has an unhappy, almost un-well look to her. I also noticed her cough tonight and her nose is running clear. He is really stressing her out.

So what can I do? Can I wean him early? He is in very good health.

I'd appreciate any advice.
 

Marilyn Lemke - Asia born 7-11-08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 1712
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds like the mare does need to be free of the foal. The foal is almost 3 months old. It is rather early, but it is eating grain and hay. I would ask the vet, but I think for the good of the mare, I would wean him.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1045
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have started to wean my shetland colt who is about 3 monhs what i do is seperate them during the day and then let them together at night. He has a couple of sarugat moms and shes tired of him so this arrangment seams to work well and not stress anyone. Im doing it this way bc im not an advocate of weaning at 3 months but my mare is having a tough time holding her weight so he needs to be weaned.
 

Cjskip
Breeding Stock
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 655
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay, thanks much. I just needed that reassurance. I'd originally wanted him to stay with her six months, then went down to four months, but it's too much for his mama. I sure hope the next one is a filly.

Next question, Jenni, is when you seperate them, doesn't it freak them out at first? Doesn't the foal try to climb the fence or something? I'm prehaps imagining more than is the reality.

How do I begin and how do you keep either one injuring themselves early in the process? Do you seperate for short periods at first, and lenghten as time goes on?

I have a pipe corral that I could confine him in. The water trough is in there and until recently, they were locked in there every night, so he is used to it.

If you have anything else to add, anyone for that matter, I'd appreciate it. I do remember that there is a thread about weaning (or maybe it was tacked onto another thread) I'll try to find it.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1047
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some horses throw more of a fit than others when it comes to this weaning thing. Mine are very good about it I had a little fence running but nothing major. How I did it was I brought momma out to be groomed and for the kids to play with and then just never put her away till 9pm it worked to ive been doing it daily now. If you have a friend for the foal i'd put him in the coral with him. Also if the coral is where momma can get next to it when she gets uncomfy she'll stand so he can nurse its not the best weaning idea but itll keep him from beating her up and she can wean him as she sees fit.
 

Cjskip
Breeding Stock
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 663
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great idea, Jenni. Thanks so much. I am going to try it out within the next few days. I have a neighbor who has an eight month old filly and a shetland pony. Maybe he will let me "borrow" one of them periodically.

That might be a wake up call for my colt's naughtyness too! I'm pretty sure neither that filly nor pony will put up with his behavior!
 

Nicole Barrow
Neonate
Username: Pegasus

Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CJSkip wrote:
"Okay, thanks much. I just needed that reassurance. I'd originally wanted him to stay with her six months, then went down to four months, but it's too much for his mama. I sure hope the next one is a filly."

Ok, shoot me if I'm wrong, but should you really be even considering breeding this poor mare again? Whatever the sex of her next foal it's still going to be excrutiatingly painful for her.
 

Cjskip
Breeding Stock
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 685
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nicole, I understand your concern and believe me, I have taken her condition into serious consideration. She is able to walk about and trot a little, rolls about in the dirt and so on. She was able to give birth easily and attends to her foal without a problem.

The problem she has is with this colt rearing up on her and she cannot turn quickly to correct him, although from the posts I've read, some mares don't discipline their little guys anyway.

Funny thing is, I think she inadvertantly solved the problem when she recently backed into him, when he did it again. I'm wondering if she was in heat at the time. It's hard to know if she is in heat. I don't have a teaser stud or anything like that.

Anyway, problem seems to have been resolved, but I have been out of town for a week, so am eager to see if it had a lasting effect on the colt or not.

At any rate, I hope that puts to rest any concerns you have. I do love my horses and take very good care of them. I know her condition will shorten her breeding years and probably her life, As soon as I see that pregnancy is too much for her, she will be retired. I just hope to get a filly out of her, as she is a fabulous mare and a filly would be mounting her, I hope.
 

Nicole Barrow
Nursing Foal
Username: Pegasus

Post Number: 11
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure you do love and care for your horses but a mare with any kind of complaint like this shouldn't really be bred with. If you feel it will shorten her breeding years and her life and still breed her that in my opinion is selfish. JMHO no offence meant.
 

Cjskip
Breeding Stock
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 694
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No problem Nicole. Yes, it is selfish, I know. No offense taken.



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