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What do you use for a horse enema?

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Cjskip
Yearling
Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 67
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been hoping someone would ask, but since no one has, what equipment do you use for a horse enema? Is the "fleets" the same as human fleets? Is the tip long enough to do any good? Just wondering-I've not seen anything in the feed stores. Is it something one can get from the vet?
 

Mary Greer
Yearling
Username: Cowgirlup07

Post Number: 68
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used a regular suringe with lukewarm water mixed with a mild dishsoap (This is what my vet said to do) I know alot of people who have done this with foals. I used this method and it worked extremely fast. Hope this helps..
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 1103
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My vet has always recommended the Fleets enemas that you use for humans. You can use the regular kind just fine or the mineral oil one. I prefer the mineral oil because it does seem to work better although it is messier :-)
 

Jos
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Post Number: 1817
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If using a commercial "Fleet" enema in a neonate, make sure that you use a neonatal fleet enema, not an adult one. The neonate ingredients are different, and more suitable for use in a newborn foal.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 1104
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos, what could the potential harm be if using the adult? My vet always had me use the adult Fleets enema and honestly it has always worked well with no problems. Is there something harmful that I could be causing by using the adult Fleets?
 

Tim Popovitz
Weanling
Username: Dystocia

Post Number: 32
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We use the adult fleet enemas. The pediatric fleet is the same solution as the adult, just less of it. I'm not aware of a neo-natal fleet available OTC.

(Message edited by dystocia on April 05, 2008)
 

Jos
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Post Number: 1819
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In an attempt to support my "Fleet Enema" dogma, I did some digging...

The problem with the Fleet - and most adult - enemas is that they can cause dehydration in the neonate. When using an enema on a newborn foal, you want to use an enema of warm water and soap or mineral oil, NOT one that contains saline (which is what potentially can cause the dehydration). Granted, 99% of the time, there won't be an issue, but, if you're dealing with a foal that requires multiple enemas, you do run the risk of causing osmotic shock. Better safe than sorry.

I actually couldn't find anything on infant enemas at all. Most of the articles I found with regards to giving newborn (children) enemas, suggested not doing so at all, due to the reasons noted above.
 

Jonathan Smith
Neonate
Username: Kynwatch

Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To clarify on Tim's post our protocol is a maximum of 2 adult fleet enemas then if needed a soapy enema. Any more difficulty than that it time for the vet to be called. We would never suggest using more than 2 becauce the problems that Jos pointed out are a true concern. Also more than 2 can cause irratation and that will not help with the situation.

All of our foals receive routine CBC the following morning that checks for any dehydration and early signs of infection. If there was anything getting thrown out of wack by the enemas or lab tech would not shut up until we did something different.I should add we are all scared of her. All of the foals that have received multiple enemas have had the same normal results as the ones that only received the one. The only ones that have had any problems have been the ones not nursing or being being bottle fed because of an NI+.

This kind of like the Nolvasan verses the Iodine debate. Everyone has a preferred preference. So gather your information and choose what you feel is best for you and your situation.
 

Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Tracys

Post Number: 1105
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, good to know. I've always used the mineral oil Fleets, NOT the saline. As Jonathan stated I rountinely administer max of 2 enemas and the vet does a CBC the next day and decides if any more enemas are needed. Thanks for the info :-)
 

sheppard
Neonate
Username: Ponies22

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My minature horse needs an enema. I was wondering if it was ok to use a folding syringe with a douche nozzle with mild soap to give her enemas?
Please advise
 

Jos
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Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why does she need an enema?
 

sheppard
Neonate
Username: Ponies22

Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She is suffering from severe colic.
 

Jos
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Post Number: 2453
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If she is colicking, your veterinarian should be dealing with the issue. Enemas are not typically used to treat colic in the equine. Contact your vet. Colic is the #1 killer of horses.
 

sheppard
Neonate
Username: Ponies22

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did and he said to give her the enema with the bag. She is doing better now.
 

Diana Gilger
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 2338
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd consider a different vet. I have never heard of this treatment for colic. I hope your mare does ok. And if you did in fact ask your vet, and he said give her the enema, why didn't he tell you what kind to do?
Little lost here...
 

sheppard
Neonate
Username: Ponies22

Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He told me to give a soapy water enema and to get the douche nozzle in deep. She is doing well.

(Message edited by ponies22 on May 27, 2009)



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