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Pregnant Mare Foaling??? HELP!

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Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi. I am new to this site and found it while in desperation!! Please, any info would be appreciated. It is 11 months to the day that she was bred today. She has had all the classic signs, symptoms. Her udder was half full yesterday, and this morning, it had blown up where I didn't have to lean over and look up to see it. Huge. Swishing of the tail has been really frequent the last week. She was laying down and getting up alot last week but haven't seen her do it today yet. She looks so uncomfortable, keeps stompin her feet and kicking and biting at her stomach. She began backing up to walls last week and rubbing or just standing there. Tailhead is exposed. Muscles around ass and flank are like jello and have been for about 4 or 5 days. I just checked on her a few min ago and her ass looks swollen. Bigger than it has ever been even before this pregnancy. She has waxed and dripped a week ago and periodically the last couple days. Her vulva is swollen and a little longer than usual, not much. She is an older mare and the most gentle horse usually. The past week she has become more agitated, not wanting to be touched at all. She is switching weight from one leg to the other in back. Looks worried. I'm going crazy here. I've been saying it's coming tonight for 2 weeks and nothing. This morning I have never seen this much activity in the colt. Her sides by flanks are sunk in and then a few minutes later, back out again. So worried and unable to sleep. Any suggestions or guesses as to when this may happen? Any help would be so greatly appreciated...I feel like I'm having a darn baby!!! Thanks again.}}
 

cathy Cook
Yearling
Username: Razmacat

Post Number: 81
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All mares have their own schedule. The only way to cheat and give an educated guess is to test the calcium in the mares milk.
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi again!! Betsy is now laying down, rolling a bit when I checked on her 45 min after original post. I was standing in the house by the window watching her and she got up, went in about 3 circles, and did some sort of lunge, stretch with back legs spread wide apart and something went "boom" or a loud like burst sound and it's really dim in her stall even with the camera, and right after the noise, still lunging, stretched, a large amount of liquid came out. Not like when she is urinating. Then she left her tail up for about 45 seconds, really high above and to the side. And then went back to nibbling, circling the stall. I'm a nervous wreck. I tell ya after waiting eleven months for this, this is the worst anxiety I have ever experienced. I'm so afraid I'm gonna miss it. Although I'm trying to record it, I think she knows the camera is there as when she was down and rolling, she made sure to go the part of the stall where the light doesn't shine. All I could see was her head. lol....Someone please respond. Am I close??? Haven't slept in over a week. Talk about excited. Thanks for any input on how can I tell what she passed if it's too dark to see? I hate to go out there with a flashlight and look for fear I will disturb her. ughhhhhhhhh, the tension!!!
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 119
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay Beverly don't panic but it sounds like she may go very soon. By the stretching she may be trying to position the colt. Her water probably just broke so you may not get any sleep tonight. I'd say she is in 1st stage labor. If she is really uncomfortable getting up and down I'd stay with her but at a distance. If she goes down and strts like she is stretching get to her. Does she have wax or is she dripping milk? What does it look like? What color is inside of vulva? Keep me updated and sorry no sleep again tonight.
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 120
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is she hanging really low? From behind does she look flat on her side? My gut says you will have a colt in a few.
 

JANE OLNEY
Weanling
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 44
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone and thanks. I still can't relax as hard as I try. I try to sleep, I try to eat, I try to do normal things, clean my house and it just isn't happening. I check on her about every 30 min as I am a first time at being here this close to delivery. So I'm probably more ancey than she is!! lol...Last check, she is still getting mouthfulls of hay periodically but not standing still long. Tail is still crazy up in the air still, then swishing. I know that about 6-7 weeks ago she started bagging up. I thought she was full. Then this morning I get up and go check and it was REALLY FULL AND HANGING DOWN FAR, teats pointed outward. I check on her but I don't go in the pen because this afternoon when I tried to check her, she jerked her neck around and glared. Started moving her rear to me and I got out of the stall. She has gotten a really bad attitude here the last 3 or 4 weeks.
Yes, she waxed a couple times through the last week, but none today that I noticed. And the last time I saw milk, it was almost white. Was clear before that. Thank you so much all for the advice. I'm hoping for tonight as I need some well deserved rest and my house needs to be cleaned. I can't stay out of the window long enough to do anything. lol....Thanks, I'll keep you updated. Wish us luck!!! I need it...
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 121
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly I don't know how you feel as I am expecting but not until April. I try to read everything I can but I am sure I will be just like you when that time comes. I hope for your sake she does go tonight and I think she will. Have you ever had a foal before? If she does go tonight get some pics for sure. Good Luck......
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Nancy, and yes, I have spent countless hours reading up on this exact thing. Didn't help any now that the time is nearing. lol...I am with you on hoping she goes tonight. It's been over 36 hours since I last closed my eyes...lol....can't. Thanks so much for the encouragement, I just wish she would come on already...lol....I love her though, she is wonderful. And yes I have had one other fillie from a spotted app but we had purchased her after she was pregnant and didn't know it until right at the end. The colt was born in a stormy season and it rained for 2 or 3 days straight. We took them both back out to the pasture to let them bond, etc. 3 days later, Sept of 2006, my brother in law found the fillie laying out in the pasture, they said they think a stud he put out there tried to breed the mare and kicked the fillie in the hip and it died. So you can understand my worry. Thanks, I will keep you all updated, thanks for the support everyone!
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update, just checked again...can't stay away from the window...lol....she is down again but not laying on her side. Her mouth is laying on the ground and her eyes are opening and closing. Her head keeps jerking every few secs like she is in pain, ears pinned back. With any luck and alot of prayers, we are on our way!!! You all will be sick of me by morning probably...lol....Have a great night all, I hope we have an uneventful, (other than me being nervous) delivery.
 

Lynn Ison
Breeding Stock
Username: Lynndi

Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow beverly....I can see me feeling just like you when my time comes...I am a first time foaler ... Good luck and keep us posted !! Can't wait to hear more!!!
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Baby yet? I hope all goes well for u tonight. I'd say ur within a few hours. I'd stay out of her sight. sometimes it makes them even more nervous and uncomfortable to have some one watching them. Exspecialy if that person isnt really calm. As hard as that is.Believe me I know!! keep a close eye on her tho. I'll say a prayer for a healthy baby for you.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

do you have a small grassy area to turn her out in for an hour or so it may help her progress. Just like they tell us women when we go into labor WALK. God bless you and Betsy
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 122
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly do we have a baby yet? I gotta go to church. I will check in with you later. Good foaling vibes coming your way......
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone! No, another sleepless night, I think maybe by me going to check on her that maybe I slowed it down. She calmed down alot last night, through the night, still sporadically eating hay. She is not eating her feed this morning though. I am just beside myself, my husband thinks any time now. I think today I will stay away from her especially at dark. Maybe I messed it up for last night but I am just so worried about her as she is an older mare. Thanks for your concern and I will keep you up on her progress. Everything from last night is still the same, but it's happening now at a slower pace. Maybe I slowed it down with my excitement. Shame on me.....I will post throughout the day and thanks everybody for your encouragement. And yes, I could turn her out for a while, but with her attitude, she is hard to catch this past month. I think I'll try that. Thanks.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

past expierence with a mare that I swear could turn her labor on and off and carry for a year. She could be in full blown labor and the moment someone saw her she'd quit and hold for another week. The minute we'd give up on her, turn her out, and leave her be there would be a healthy gorgous little foal by her side come morning. She gave me 4 gorgous babies without a problem I never did get to see one of them born. If you have a clean grassy area she can be in it wont hurt her to foal outside just make sure the area is small enough you can keep an I on her and find the placenta afterwards. If she gets in real trouble you'll be able to catch her no problem.
 

Tiffany Wright
Breeding Stock
Username: Wrightkoss

Post Number: 275
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like the fun waiting game for mares Beverly. Good luck. I have a mare that I have been saying is getting so close as well. She too has had the really crabby attitude the past several weeks, lucky for me she still isn't too hard to catch but for her... I would classify it as hard to catch as she is typically the most friendly, bombproof, easy going mare that I have ever met. Good luck!
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone!!! Just an update from one exhausted first timer!! Betsy is still pregnant!! Imagine that!! She calmed down last night and I think by me checking on her often, stopped her. She was down and up last night late in the night. It started being like 15 min at a time at first, then went on to 30 min the last two times I noticed her down. Today, I turned her out for a few. She is still having alot of movement in her flanks as well as her rear. All the other signs are there. My husband checked her milk last night late and it is white, white white. Good or bad? I'm hoping tonight....Gotta be soon!!
 

Tiffany Wright
Breeding Stock
Username: Wrightkoss

Post Number: 280
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly - white white white is exactly what you want! I hope that she goes for you tonight.. I totally know how you feel. Hope it comes soon! Anything else that you have noticed?
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 123
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly it can't be too much longer. White is great. Does vulva look relaxed? Oh I forgot she's grouchy. But maybe you can sneak a peek. I know it's got to be sooner than later... Alot of help that is, right?
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 8
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tiffany.

The signs that I have noticed happening from about a week and a half ago are these......her bag went from half full to full overnight. She was waxing and dripping periodically over the past week. There has been alot of movement, we can actually watch as the baby was positioning itself. So Amazing. It is kicking feverantly with no stopping. Betsy has broke out in a sweat in her flanks several times. Her muscles (coup)? are like jello and have been for a week. Her tailhead is exposed. Her vulva last night was swollen, but not much longer than usual. This morning and as the day progresses, it is more swollen and starting to turn out. The color is like a brownish type color, not pink until deep. Is this ok? She is getting moist at the bottom, but no fluid leaking out yet. I thought she broke her water last night. I heard a pop and then in a lunging stance, stretched out, tail high in the air, alot of liquid, not urination came out in a gush. Not sure. So confused. Lack of sleep I think. Hopefully, my next report will be a good one!!!
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Nancy! Yes her vulva is relaxed, has swollen overnight especially toward the bottom and is moist, but not fluid yet. She is very grouchy yes!! But my hubby looked at my request last night, she is acting better for him for some reason. When he held up her tail, I looked and it looks like she is progressing as time passes. I'm just not a real patient person especially when excitement adds with exhaustion...lol.....I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tonight. Thanks!!!
 

Tiffany Wright
Breeding Stock
Username: Wrightkoss

Post Number: 281
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly - Like I mentioned before, I totally understand where you are coming from. The excitement and anticipation does add with exhaustion! It really does sound like she is getting ready. I don't know much about the brownish color in her vulva, is that how it was before? That is just something that I don't know a lot about so I can't answer. Dee has been leaking for DAYS with fluid dripping out that I have finally gotten timed to when she kind of has a jolt within her body. I just have no idea where she is at or when she is going to do it. Sounds like her water broke but again, I don't really know... we didn't watch the broodmares that closely before so I never got to experience all of the signs... Hopefully tonight for you! That would be fabulous! Keep us posted, and sorry that I couldn't answer your quesiton about the vulva.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 16
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BABY YET????????? IS THIS HER FIRST FOAL?
 

Beverly Jackson
Neonate
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 10
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany,
No problem hun....I don't know what it looked like beore, maybe i'm not describing it right. I mean to me, on the outside it is brown, the swelling that has begun is starting to show the beginning of the inside of her vulva. It's brown , then light brown where the swelling started, and then the further out it comes, it is like reddish/pinkish. I don't know. I've never really looked at it before this pregnancy. I just pray all goes well. Thanks again for your reply.
 

Tiffany Wright
Breeding Stock
Username: Wrightkoss

Post Number: 282
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly - I am taking a guess that when you are describing the color, you aren't opening her up to look inside, just taking a look under the tail at her vulva... is this a correct assumption? If so, the it is definitely starting to turn out. I am sure that all will go just fine. Good foal "vibes" to you. Any chance that you could get a photograph or is that completely out of the question with her being crabby?
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany,
Right, I am not touching it at all other than when I cleaned it two days ago. I didn't look inside, no. Just ran a cloth with warm water over it as a book told me to do. Yes, those are the right words, it is turning out. I have a camera on her right now, taping all of it. I think that's another reason she keeps stopping. She is laying down and starting to have a little trouble getting up. She usually just pops up quickly
Now she is having to rock herself up on her feet. I will try and get a pic.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

vulva sounds fine. Sometimes it can take a good long while even after the water breaks. Let your hubby check on her if someone must check on her. Your excitement is probably more than she can handle right now. I know its hard but remember even at a distance she can pick up on what you are feeling. She may be taking your excitement as a sign of danger and will NOT foal till the "danger" has passed. just a thought
 

Tiffany Wright
Breeding Stock
Username: Wrightkoss

Post Number: 284
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly - Okay, that makes complete sense to me then. I still think that she is close that is all good stuff that she is going and acting. I am hoping to have my mare do the same thing as well.

This might be a lame question, but the fluid when their water breaks, do you know what color it is or if it has any color at all?
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 12
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't go out to her excited by looking at me. Remember, although I am excited, I have not slept in over 48 hours. I can't look too excited. I will take that advice though. I really only have to go outside to care for other animals as well. My husband (who has raised horses all his life and seen some births) told me that he really does not think that I am threatening to her. She knows who I am, and she knows that I am no danger to her. I feed her, I water her, I ride her and only me. But maybe she is just having some problems that she doesn't care to share, your right. I decided this morning that I was not going out anymore and see if that is the problem. God knows The last thing I wanna do is stop her pregnancy. I only go out to make sure she has hay now as she is off feed, will not eat it and she is usually greedy greedo!! Thanks for your input!!
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany
I checked last night after hubby got home from work and I tried to see with the flashlight cuz when it happened, she had her rear to the camera and I was watching from a discreet window. It looked clear to me. It was different from when she urinates but I'm not sure. My first time so I'm no expert. I was just shocked when it happened. I've been around this horse for years, I know her behaviour, I know she is uncomfortable. I can see it in her eyes. She is very agitated. She is getting moist back there so who knows??? I'm more concerned for her than anything. The baby will make it's way out. I just hate to see her uncomfortable...lol...

And no, the lame question I've learned from here is the one you don't ask....Thanks...As you can see I have a million....
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

do any of you have children? You can compare a lot of whats happening with your mares to what happened to you up to and in labor. The fluid has a pinkish tinge
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like I said, it was dark and she had walked in it by the time I got outside to look. All I know is that she laid right where it happened and she had dried whatever it was on her stomach and side that I washed off this morning. And no, I don't have children. My children are my horses and other animals. Thanks.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't trying to be rude I apologize if thats how it sounded. It just if you did its a lot the same. I didnt mean you were threatening her at all!! and I'm not saying to hide from her its just the thought of watching a new life come into this world makes all of our hearts start to speed up. and she can pick up on that. thats all I meant. I was answering tiffanies question about the color. sorry I only see new post when i leave the site and come back so i get a little behind SORRY
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hun, no need to be sorry. You guys/gals are being a huge help to me. I didn't mean to sound like I was offended, I'm so sorry, just tired. And I didn't mean you said I was threatening her. Other people have told me that sometimes if they feel threatened by someone watching them, they will hold off. That's what I was responding too. I'm soo sorry. Please give me any advice you have, I'm sooooo open to it all....Thanks again!!!
 

Jenni Luttrell
Nursing Foal
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understand being tired hun, been there done that. Its worth it all tho. If a mare feels threatened they can and will stop labor. Its a survival instinct left over from being wild. Even if she loves you dearly and trust you 100% if when you go see her your heart gets to pumping even if youstay really calm looking she can pick up on that and then wonders whats the matter and wants to know where the "boogy man" is. she is exspecialy in tune with you if you r the only one that rides and really handles her. I never mean to offend but sometimes am not real good at wording things so I like to make sure I didnt offend anyone. Keep up the good work your doing fine.
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 16
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No offense at all dear. I think we all feel special bonds with our horses individually. I do handle her alot and that is why it is funny to me that during the past couple weeks, she really doesn't wanna be bothered. I wonder why but don't need to know...Probably never know. I haven't been out there in a while, I just know she is gonna have it now that I'm not looking. lol...It's ok with me, but hubby wants it on film...I just wanna be around in case she needs any help, she is older and I am a worry wart.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We all do when it comes to our babies. I think I've gone whole springs without sleeping. lol Growing up we had 60 head of brood mares. All foaled every year. It always seemed the ones I really wanted to watch did it that one minute i wasn't looking. She'll be fine I'm a 100% positive exspecialy with you taking care of her. It is ok to sleep thats prob. when she'll do it You'll wake up and there will be a wobbly legged beauty waiting for you lol
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

P.S I have 3 kids and I dont know why either but the closer I got to labor the less I wanted to do with anyone even the ones I loved. I think its a universal maternity instinct lol She still loves you! lol
 

Colleen Beck
Neonate
Username: Gypsycreations

Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, the suspense is killing me! I can only imagine what you are going through
 

JANE OLNEY
Weanling
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 45
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understood as my mare was getting close that when their water breaks that the mare will smell and smell it. This is the way she gets to know her baby prior to the baby being born, so she would know it in a herd situation. She will know it is hers when it is born. If this is interrupted, she may not know the baby is hers and will reject it.

Did she pay alot of attention to the fluid?

If she did, I thought that the 1st stage of labor is over at the breaking of the water...and the baby HAS to be born soon...within 30-45 min?
 

Beverly Jackson
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Colleen,
Hi! It's killin me too, softly but nonetheless!! lol....I'm just a wreck. Today she is acting all cool and it's just making me laugh. It's like when she sees me, she gives me this look like, "I don't know why you keep checkin, i'm not gonna let you see!!!" with this smirk....maybe I'm so tired I'm imagining things. I have tried to stay away aside from making sure she had hay, water etc. Thanks for understanding. I probably sound like a raving lunatic, but oh well. I'll be better next time...I'll keep you posted!!
 

Beverly Jackson
Nursing Foal
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Hi Jane. To be honest, when it happened, she laid down shortly after right on top of it and had her nose and mouth on the ground sweeping back and forth. It was dark and I was in the house so I'm not really sure. I hope it wasn't her water breaking if she was supposed to have it within a few hours of that. That was last night. Thanks.
 

Colleen Beck
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Beverly,

I don't think it was her water breaking or she would be in trouble by now. Mares have fooled me before by urinating in a way that I thought was water breaking, but believe me, when it really is her water breaking there will be NO DOUBT. In my experience, once their water breaks, they foal within the hour. We foaled out 6 foals last spring and they all followed that pattern. We've got six due in the next couple of months so I will be experiencing the foal watch delirium. Get some sleep....let hubby watch for awhile. Colleen
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
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I dont think your hullicinating yet lol. They all have there little expressions and smirks. Just to say ha ha i guess but thats why we love them so. Get some sleep tho before you do start hullicinating. lol
 

Beverly Jackson
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I will try to get some sleep. Probably set my alarm for every couple hours or something if I can sleep. Thanks everyone for your replies and for not telling me I'm crazy!!! I feel crazy!!! Keep you all posted.....
 

Tiffany Wright
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Jenni - you asked about children and I have 2. One is 6 months so I have just recently experienced this whole water breaking child birth thing.

Why I asked about the water is because my horse had a very pink watery fluid come out of her recently. I was concerned about it at first and then when she was acting fine, I forgot about it until this topic came up. The reason that I know the color is because we have snow on the ground and therefore it is extremely easy to see what we have for stool, urination etc. Her urine that I went out and checked several hours later was the normal color. So that is why I asked. As far as smelling and smelling, she has been doing that in only that one spot. She doesn't worry about smelling the rest of her urine. It was yesterday morning that this occured so we have a time lapse in there... I don't know that it was her water breaking for sure obviously. Anyway, that is the reason that I asked the question. This whole foaling thing (and I am with you and the uncomfortableness of my mare Beverly) is exhausting.
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Thanks Tiffany, I'm gonna check before I try to lay it down for a couple min....Keep your fingers crossed for me!!! I wish you the best on yours too...Keep me informed and I will do the same ok?
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

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I DO KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A MARE TO LEAK SOME FLUID AND STILL NOT HAVE HER WATER BREAK. WHEN THEIR WATER DOES BREAK IT IS USUALLY A VERY LARGE AMOUNT. AS LONG AS THE BABY SEEMS TO BE MOVING SOME AND SHE DOESNT LOOK SICK DONT WORRY. IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG FOR A DEAD FOAL TO CAUSE INFECTION SO IF THE FOAL DOESNT SEEM TO MOVE ANY AND OR SHE DEVELOPES A FEVER YOU MIGHT HAVE HER CHECKED.
MY YOUNGEST JUST TURNED 6MONTHS CONGRATS!!
 

Tiffany Wright
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Jenni - thank you for that and congrats to you on your baby as well. Anyway, it is my guess that it was just a small amount without her water actually breaking since I just read that it is typically 3 to 5 gallons. She definitely didn't lose that much even though it was more than a typical urination... there would have been a LOT of snow melted. Anyway, she is still healthy no problems there, the foal is still moving so all is well.

Thanks and good luck Beverly.
 

Jenni Luttrell
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I'M GLAD TO HERE SHE AND THE FOAL ARE FINE. I WISH BOTH OF YOU HAPPY FOALING.
I'M NOT EXPECTING THIS YEAR DUE TO MY MARES DEATH BUT HOPEFULLY I'LL BE UP ALL NIGHT WITH U GUYS NEXT YEAR.
 

Jenni Luttrell
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I keep checking hoping there will be news of a baby. I really enjoy talking and sharing with you both. This will be my first year i'm not "exspecting". I dont know what to do with all this extra sleep I can get. lol I'll check back first thing in the AM. Many prayers for healthy foals -night-
 

Tiffany Wright
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No new foal for me. She has been up and down and rolling a lot the past 12 hours. I tried to leave her be throughout the night. The moon and the glare off of the snow was enough to look out the window and see where she was and what she was doing. I am starting to think that I am way ahead of the game here but her udder changes started 26 days ago and she has been having vulva changes from that point as well. Granted she is no where close to a full udder but she is a maiden. Here is her vulva photo from this morning. What do you think?
http://picasaweb.google.com/wrightkoss/DeeFoalingPhotographs/photo?authkey=zShjB mxlNRI#5035900023053569970
Oh and Jenni - are you any relation to the Luttrell's in Oregon? I know that you are a ways from there... Just curious.
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

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Tiffany - Nope I dont think I'm any relation. Although I grew up in MT and WY it's just recently I move to AR.
As for your mare I'd say she looks good. Some change very quickly and foal within a day of vulva changes and some make us crazy for weeks. lol Think of it as getting dialated. I'd say she's gonna hold off for a while yet. But maybe I'm wrong. How is the foal positioned thats the best clue.
Good luck
 

Tiffany Wright
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Make us crazy for weeks! Yeah by any chance have you looked at my website... we are talking about crazy for weeks here...
This is her website that has her photos if you want to look.
http://picasaweb.google.com/wrightkoss/DeeFoalingPhotographs?authkey=zShjBmxlNRI
This foal dropped and moved back about a week and a half ago I think. I don't recall the specific date. She is smaller and she is a maiden and the stud is a smaller colt as well so I don't think that we are looking at a huge foal here. Probably just average size at full grown. Her vulva has been changing since Feb 1... I think that there are a total of 180 photos or so on this website from pretty much everyday tracking the changes and I won't tell you how many I have on my computer... so yeah I am already
 

Jenni Luttrell
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I took a look at your web site. Sleep tight I'd say she is a slow progressor and unless she makes a really derastic change you got at least a week more of waiting.
Best wishes!!! keep us posted
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

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http://tteam-ttouch.com/howtodoTTouch.shtml
check out this link. I used to have one of her books (i loaned it out & never got it back). She is good and it does help the mares feel a lot more comfortable. She does something called a belly lift I think it helps them a bunch. See if you can find more info on how to do it its really easy but kinda difficult to explain by just typing. If you cant find it and are interested I'll try to explain it if you want.
 

Tiffany Wright
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Post Number: 292
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Thanks Jenni. I will keep an eye on her but maybe just get up once in the night to be sure there isn't something laying out there in the snow. Sounds much better than every 2 hours!
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 35
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You need your sleep exspecialy with a new baby. Just check when the baby wakes you. It'll help you keep your sanity!! lol
 

Tiffany Wright
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Okay so I just got your website link... I am looking at it and oh so confused. I am going to have to read more. I am interested. Do you have time to email it to me? tiffany@builtwright.org I will keep reading and see if I can figure it out too but sometimes more explanation helps me out better. (Don't you just love it when you loan books out and never get them back? I had to buy 3 of my training books that I reference a lot over again... after that $100 bill, I now just scan info when I think people need it...)
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

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I'll e-mail it to you no prob. That was my last book I'll loan out exspecialy when I use them for reference.
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Post Number: 38
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http://tteam-ttouch.com/examplesTTouch.shtml HERE THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BETTER. I EMAILED IT TO YOU AS WELL TIFFANY. I HOPE IT HELPS
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 40
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I JUST THOUGHT OF IT, READING OTHER POST AND AN ARTICLE REMINDED ME, TEST HER MILK FOR CALCIUM IT WILL GIVE YOU THE ABSOLUTE BEST TIME TABLE
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Update, Betsy has regressed I guess to me checkin on her. Her vulva is no longer swelling and protruding, no signs of movement, her udder is back to half full, back on feed and hay. I'm just leaving her alone and wishin for the best. Good luck to you all.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 42
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Hi Beverly- I'm sorry she stopped. Is the foal still ok? Keep us posted! Good Luck!!
 

Diana Dolan
Neonate
Username: Dee0926

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Jenni- I have been reading the posts and this pretty much happened at my house last week. But my mare gave birth at 10:00am in the pasture. So don't count the morning out! Keep you in my thoughts...
 

Pamela Sutherland
Nursing Foal
Username: Lolly

Post Number: 15
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Beverly Jackson,
You do not live far from me, as I live in Sealy Texas
 

Sabrina Japczyk
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Username: Sabrina

Post Number: 44
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Hey All! Tiffany, I admire your patience. The top of her vulva looked very gappy to me. Chillis looked like that right before she foaled. Just kinda looks swollen. Just my unprofessional opinion.

Jenni- What part of Arkansas are you from? I am in the NW corner.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 43
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Sabrina - I live by Alma, AR you.

They can suprise us at any time lol the ones we think are foaling tonight dont foal till next week and the ones we think are foaling next week foal within the hr lol just there way of showing us we dont know everything!!!!lol
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 45
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Hi Beverly,
I just found out about this test you can do to predict foaling within 24hrs. take a small amount of milk and put it on a black plastic bag if you can't see the black through the milk you'll have a foal in 24hrs. I've never tried it but its worth a try. let me know if it works.
 

Tiffany Wright
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Username: Wrightkoss

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Sabrina - yes, I remember Chilli's vulva and it looking A LOT like Dee's yesterday. Well today too I guess. I was trying not to get excited about anything. Good thing I didn't, because what do ya know... she didn't have a foal.

Beverly - sorry to hear about the regression. I hope that for your sake she picks up the pace soon.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Weanling
Username: Bugrace2000

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http://education.vetmed.vt.edu/Curriculum/VM9124/Diagnostics/marefoaling.htm this link offers really good pictures of the stages of labor its worth looking at.
 

Sabrina Japczyk
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Username: Sabrina

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Jenni- I live in eureka springs...i think we are kinda close to eachother...
 

Beverly Jackson
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Hi everyone! Well, I checked her again this morning and her vulva is swelling again. Milk is still white white, and it looks like she bagged up fully again. I turned her out to the pasture for a little bit so she could get some excercise. She is doing fine it looks. I can't see as much movement as the other day but I can still see it. It's really far back though, like in her rear and flank. I'll put her up at dark and like last night, not mess with her. She is doing more extreme kicking and trying to bite her side. Hopefully this mean the baby is ok. Wish us luck!
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

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Sabrina- I googled it its 104 miles. I'm south of fayetteville.

When the foal gets into position its hard for it to really move a lot, so a decrease in movement is normal. It sounds like she is really getting close. I hope she gets it done this time around. Can you post a pic of baby after its born. I'll be looking forward to seeing it. Best wishes!!!!! keep us posted!!!!!!!
 

Roxanne Staniorski
Neonate
Username: Roxanne

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Hi Everyone:

Beverly, I am in your shoes right now. I have an arab/qh cross, 15 hands bred to an English Shire stallion. She was bred (accidently) the end of March 2006. Since the day before Valentines Day, she has been raising her tail, stomping back foot. My worry is she is not bagged up at all with no liquids coming out. I'm a nervous wreck because she is HUGE. This morning she curled her upper lip for the first time. I have to work every day so I can't be there if she delivers during the day. This is her 3rd colt. I just bought this farm in pa and they are with me for the first time so I never witnessed her last deliveries. We have camera in her stall so we can view her from our tv. My husband is home today thank goodness, but he doesn't know anything about horses. Any chance this baby will be too big for her to deliver?
 

Tiffany Wright
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Username: Wrightkoss

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Beverly - do you have an update for us today? Dee's update is on the maiden mares thread.
 

Lynne Kuehner
Neonate
Username: Shenandoah96

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Roxanne,

I have always heard that the foal will only grow as big as the mare's uterus will allow. I've heard they then catch up to their genetics after they're born. I certainly don't have any experience with this. That's just what I've heard. Take it as you like.

Sending out good vibes for all the mares that are soon due!! I have to wait until late May!
 

Roxanne
Neonate
Username: Roxanne

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Lynne that is good to know. Thank you.
 

karold dietrich forner
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I've heard that too - about foal will only grow to a 'pre-determined' size in the uterus. Would like to hear others comments re this as my mare is due in May too. She's a small mare bred to a larger-type stallion.
Good wishes to all mare's foaling soon - and to the owners - deep breathing helps
 

Lynne Kuehner
Neonate
Username: Shenandoah96

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Karold,

My mare is also smallish and a maiden. (So am I when it comes to foaling!) She's bred to a larger Trakehner stallion so I'm nervously awaiting this birth! It seems the more info I read the more I wish I hadn't done this!! (Kidding!!) My Anglo-Trakehner mare aborted twins at 8 months last year so my track record isn't good with foalings!!

Good luck for you and your mare!
 

karol dietrich
Neonate
Username: 4morgans

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LynnK
Our small (er) type (maiden) mares are both due in May - my "Ellie" (Morgan) is due May 23rd - your due date? Ellie was born at my farm and I know everything about her, except of course how this upcoming event will progress...
Where's Beverly's update??? Looking forward to some photos soon. HOping the best for your mare and foal
 

Leslie Walker
Neonate
Username: Nala

Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2006
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Oh how I remember this from last year. I used the predict a foal and it was so RIGHT! Slept in the barn with my husband. My foal was born on a Friday night. How great is that! Good luck and let us know when it happens.
 

Mood Swings
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OMG! I just read all the posts and my stomach is in knots (nervous/excited for you Beverly) That would be so stressfull all by yourself nonetheless! How is she today? You deserve a vacation after this!!
 

Lynne Kuehner
Neonate
Username: Shenandoah96

Post Number: 7
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Karol,

My TB mare (Arwen) is due May 30. I wonder how much sleep I'll miss? I'm hoping the calcium test strips are accurate (or relatively accurate!) since I work 6 days a week! Even though I work for family and close to the barn I can't take off too much time for my "maternity leave"!
 

Jenni Luttrell
Yearling
Username: Bugrace2000

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Beverly - How is she doing? Good healthy foal prayers going your way. Keep us up dated!!!!!!!!
 

karol dietrich
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Username: 4morgans

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\LynneK
Is this your first? My Ellie is starting to get real hungry, but I'm keeping her feed intake spaced out at 3xday and smaller size portions because she is so small - 14.1, but packing on the pounds.
Just read about the calcium strips. Sounds interesting.
Yeah, work, work, work, and we like all mare owners who are foaling will not get much sleep come May baby time.
Where's Beverly's updates?
 

Lynne Kuehner
Neonate
Username: Shenandoah96

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Karol,

Yes, this is my first. I'm going to do embryo transfer with my other mare this year so that should also be interesting. Arwen is 15.2 and a really compact build. She isn't getting huge yet, but is definitely filling out her flanks! She's out all day with hay and in at night. I don't feed a lot of grain since she has had problems with ulcers in the past. I haven't ridden her during her entire pregnancy since she stresses so easily. Thankfully I have a lot of other horses to ride!

I keep having dreams of her foaling and me standing there wondering what to do next! None of the info I've read stuck in my brain! (I'm having these dreams already! Just think what I'll be like when May gets here!)

Hopefully Beverly is out in the barn greeting a perfect new foal! I wish she'd update us already!
 

Roxanne
Neonate
Username: Roxanne

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Is there such a thing as a mare being in Stage 1 labor for too long? Ginger has been kicking at her sides and raising her tail since Feb. 13, but no baby yet.
 

Roxanne
Neonate
Username: Roxanne

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Registered: 02-2007
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Here is a photo
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/ginger2.jpg
 

Lori Coleman
Yearling
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 84
Registered: 02-2007
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Roxanne,
She is big, but so are many of these late-term mares! Some of them don't have that big of an udder either. My mare has been biting her sides and raising her tail for around two weeks too. Her udders are perhaps half full and the liquid I can express is pretty clear still. No big changes in the vulva area either.
Here are some pix of her for comparison's sake. They are in reverse order, with the first ones being the most recent. Today is day 341 for her.
http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u161/editorlady/
 

Roxanne
Neonate
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2007
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Lori: Your horse is adorable. OK I guess I don't need to panic then. Your mare's vulva and udders look similar to my mare. I'm assuming she is an Arab? Ginger is half Arab.
 

Lori Coleman
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Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 85
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Ginger's a very pretty gal, too
Is she NSH or what is she mixed with?
Yes, Hollywood is a purebred Arab by Elsheikdlabiya.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Yearling
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 78
Registered: 02-2007
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Any one know how Beverly's mare is doing?
 

Roxanne
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Lori: Ginger's Dam is a purebred Quarter Horse.
 

Beverly Jackson
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Hi everyone...No baby yet. Betsy is still having all the signs, vulva is relaxing again and dripping just a bit. Unable to test milk on bag due to she will hardly let us enter the stall to feed now. Very nervous. We are at wits end, just want this to be over as we are becoming more nervous as the days pass. 11 1/2 months now. Thanks for all your posts and yes, if we ever get a baby, i will post a pic. Good foaling to you all!!!
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Thanks for the update Beverly I will keep my fingers crossed for you
 

Beverly Jackson
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Hi Jenni, I just came from outside and Betsy is very agitated. She is going in a circle. When she turned around, I noticed she has bitten actual hair off her sides...Is this ok or what? Should I call her vet? I know they bite at their sides, but is it supposed to be that severe where she removes the hair?? It's in several places on one side....Worried, thanks.
 

Jenni Luttrell
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I really cant tell you if its normal without being able to see the whole picture. I might call the vet. just to be safe. Let me know how she is but it sounds like shes in a lot of pain. what does her vulva look like
 

karol dietrich
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Hi Beverly - so good to have an update. I agree w/ Jenni - call the vet if nothing else just to get reassurance that mare is doing OK.
My thoughts and prayers are w/ yu during this event... I've been there and yes it is v. exciting but nerve racking too. Try to remain calm it will help your mare too.
 

Justin Blake
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OMG i am in the same darn boat that Beverly is in!! i do know that my mare was bred last febuary..well this morning i turned her out and her udder was full and hard!.well when i put her up tonight udder was empty and..what in the world?..someone please help keep me calm LOL!!...i am watching her with a camera and she does have lights on her but that don't seem to bother her because i put her under them 3 months ago..from all i have read is they need to be put in there 30 days to get used to it..well i got a early start on it and well yeah!..anyway im going crazy!!..i also read somewhere that shedding has something to do with the pregnacy..i don't know..i have read everything i think there is to read on the internet and i have came up on a bunch of stuff that helped me a lot!..but anyway her udders just started filling up 2 days ago..i tell ya that Horse has had me worried to death..not only is she shedding hair i am too!..anyway...please help me with anything you can...ask me some questions and i will answer them the best way that i can...i know for a fact that she is so unconfortable that it isnt even funny..anyway..thanks for all the help in advance!!!

Justin,Alabama
 

Jenni Luttrell
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A pregnant mare slicks off before other horses generaly. can you post some picks? Has her butt turned to jello yet?
 

Justin Blake
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Jenni yes i can give you a side view picture of her but thats the only picture of her i have on the laptop..her hind jiggles a lot..to me she looks skinnier in her back area than she used to..well to me anyway..i will try to get you all some better pictures tomorrow.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Lightning.jpg
 

Justin Blake
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oh yeah and remember..she only started bagging 2 days ago..im ready for this baby to get here so i too can get some much needed sleep..i go to bed @ 4:30 almost every morning and then someone else watches her for me..
 

Jenni Luttrell
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that pic is hard to tell from but she's definately big. pics of her tail head vulva and udder along with a whole side shot would be best. if you cant get them all just get what you can. Skinnier in back is good. Has she had other foals before or do you know?
 

Jenni Luttrell
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well then you and I can talk a lot cuz im a night owl
 

Mood Swings
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Beverly, I am so worried for you and your mare. Because she has been so agitated for the last 10 days or so I too would call the vet. Better safe then sorry. Please keep us updated, I have been checking this post several times a day for any foal news. Good Luck!! :-)
 

Tiffany Wright
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Beverly - hope that all is fine with you mare. Let us know what the vet has to say if you call him... It may give you peace of mind to have the vet out and know that she isn't having any problems... but that she is just uncomfortable.

Justin - sounds like the same story as a lot of others on here. Post photos if you can... sounds like with that full udder, you are getting somewhat close. Could be a couple of weeks yet but who knows... photos would help...
 

Colleen Beck
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Beverly, I agree with Tiffany. Go ahead and have the vet out just to check her for your peace of mind. I'm not hearing anything really alarming. Some mares just have a low pain/discomfort threshhold. I have one Shire mare (EVE) who is a sensitive girl and will cry on your shoulder throughout the last two months of her pregnancy. You'd think she wasn't going to make it. While the others go on about their business and you'd never guess they were late term (other than their enormous bellies!) Eve wasn't rebred last year, but we are going to breed her this spring again. She loves being a mama, but her pregnancies are so hard on.....me! Please let us know what the vet says so we can all breathe a sigh of relief with you (((hugs)))
 

Justin Blake
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Jenni this will be her first foal ever!! this is the reason i am so worried for her..i wish she would just have it and everything go ok so i won't have to worry anymore..but so far everything is going ok..at first i was worried about milk failure..then im worried about her not being able to push it out..im like most people here..i worry so much then everything turns out to be ok..im going out to get them pictures now..here is my e-mail arroblake92121 @ aol.com *remove spaces* my aol screen name is arroblake92121
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Justin - My email is bugrace2000@yahoo.com and your more than welcome to it. She prob. will not develope an udder until literally right before foaling or immediately afterwards. It is a very common thing for maidens as they arent all stretched out yet. I'm sure all will go well for you but i'll answer as many questions as I can, and what I cant I'm sure some one else here can. As long as the foal is in position she will have no problems pushing it out.
 

Tiffany Wright
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Justin - I understand your worry. My mare just had her first foal as well. Luckily she did fine and made it through the birth well. I will send you an email and be happy to help in any way that I can as well. Looking forward to photographs. Also, just sent you an email.
 

Justin Blake
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http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1787.jpg (udders) this is now..they were a lot bigger and fuller yesterday

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1785.jpg (full Side shot) not a good one

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1786.jpg

and i couldnt get the tail head because my batteries went dead!
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Justin - it is still a little hard to tell but i would say you got a while yet
 

Nancy McGee
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Justin I am right there with you. This is not my mares first but it is mine. I wish I could be as relaxed as she seems to be. Your mare is very pretty. About her bagging up they will tend to have a full udder in the AM because they have pretty much had know exercise all night but after a day of being out it tends to go down. But when you bring her in and that udder is still full watch out!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Update #500000000 !!! lol...siggghhhhh.....Betsy was rather calm looking this morning. She is still moving alot in her stall. I turn her out for a bit every day. Her udder is so full it looks like it's about to burst. Pointed outward alot. Her stomach area looks all crazy, like the big belly is going away. Looks like she has a block in her side...lol.....I don't know. I called the vet and he said that she sounded fine to him, maybe just discomfort. He said if she hasn't gone by this weekend, he will come and check but he thinks I'm just being overprotective. 2 1/2 more weeks and she will have carried this baby for a year. Thanks everyone....keep fingers crossed!!! Good foaling to all!!!!
 

Colleen Beck
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Good to hear from you Beverly! Glad that she calmed down some. Sounds like she is quite ready. What's her milk look like?
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Thanks for the update Beverly keep them coming
 

Tiffany Wright
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Beverly - I know that you are tired of updating everyone but I was just wondering how things were going today... do you have any new photos of her. I know that she was really nervous a while back so I don't know how close you can get... but hope all is okay. Keep a good eye on her...
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Beverly - Photos would be great but I understand if you cant get them.. I hope all is well..and you are being able to sleep
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Hi again all!!! And I don't get tired of updating anyone Tiffany!!! I just have to take time out....lol.....As for Betsy, the past two days, I have turned her out in the am, and when I put her up in the evening, her udder is staying full and looks like it's gonna explode....lol......I wish I could get photos, but she is not letting us too close and I don't wanna spook her again with a camera.....Her milk is still really white. Her stomach is really narrow compared to a couple days ago. She is having alot of movement in her rear flank and butt area. Looks like she is uncomfortable, laying down and getting up ALOT. Still hoping, as far as sleep, WHAT IS THAT???? LOL.....Happy foaling to you all. I'm gonna try and get a couple pics now....Hopefully I won't bother her.
 

Nancy McGee
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Beverly still no foal, I can't believe it. Well hopefully soon. Hang in there!
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Beverly - I thought for sure youd be one of the first with a foal this year. I cant beleive she still hasnt foaled but it is sounding like its even closer. Good luck and happy foaling!!!
 

Tiffany Wright
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Good luck Beverly. Hope that she figures it out soon. Looking forward to photos if you are able to get some.
 

Dorthy Brown
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My mare --that we have no idea when she was bred or is due--vet guesses she is due sometime soon. Had fully bagged up and looked as though she would deliver any minute--her udder has completely gone down and other than being bigger than a house she looks like she could go another month now. Vet was out yesterday said that is very normal and it is just hormonal fluctuations!!
 

Roxanne
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My mare has been dropped since the day before Valentines Day and she is huge. Is it normal for her to be dropped for so long with no baby yet? Her bags are about 3/4 full, vulva has been extended for couple weeks now, all muscles relaxed, tail swishing, foot stomping, mean look on face, no baby.
 

Tiffany Wright
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Dorothy - Sounds like the fun of owning a mare. Good luck!

Roxanne - Good luck to you as well. Everything sounds okay to me especially since her udder isn't full yet. She is just uncomfortable.
 

Roxanne
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Thank you for the reassurance:-)
 

Tiffany Wright
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No problem! That is what I am here for... help if I can!
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 27
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Hi all!!! I am hoping this is good news, Betsy's vulva has been swollen since the first time she was getting ready, it is even more so this morning, elongating, and had a little fluid or discharge dripping slowly. She looks like she is not gonna be able to hold out much longer!!! YIPPEEEEEEE!!! Her udder is so full, that it's hard to tell the teats from the rest....Hope that is normal. And her udder is not going down after being turned out during the day. Let's keep our fingers crossed!!! I think maybe within a few days.....
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Oh, the vet says this weekend.....I pray he is right!!!! Thanks everyone and great foaling to you all!! I've taken some film with my camcorder, and am trying to figure out how to get it on here. I will, be patient!!!!
 

Tiffany Wright
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Beverly - Sounds like all good news. Good luck and of course keep us posted. I think you are definitely on the way... let us know about that udder status when you bring her in for the night.
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Hey Tiffany!! I have brought her in for tonight and as the past several days, her udder has remained full, (to me it looks a little scary!!!) Her vulva is relaxed more than this morning and is still really moist, dripping....Please let this be the weekend!!!
 

Tiffany Wright
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Well that is good. When Dee's udder was full on Sunday, the poor girl looked like she was going to explode. Glad to hear everything is still relaxed. Hopefully she will go this weekend. It sure does sound to me like she is ready.
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Thanks Tiffany.....I'm sure everybody here is tired of "the waiting game" with me, but I'm learning alot about what "to do" and what "not to do" next time around. I wish you the best with your new foal when it arrives!!!!
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Beverly - I hope she goes this weekend for you and it goes smoothly.
I know you havent been on steady and i dont think its posted here but Tiffany lost her foal. You can get all the info and pics off of maidens if you want
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Ohhhh, I am so sorry to hear that Tiffany and Thanks Jenni. No I haven't been on every day as I am keeping very busy with worry. I try to get on as much as possible.

Again, Tiffany, I am so sorry to hear that...I hope your mare is ok. Please accept my apologies for not knowing.
 

Tiffany Wright
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Not a problem Beverly. If you weren't on the other threads that I posted about her regularly on - you would have no way of knowing. Dee is doing just fine. Good luck this weekend. I hope she has it for you finally!
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 34
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Thanks Tiffany...My heart sank when I heard that. I'm going through all the posts now as I feel sooooo bad for you. I need to keep updated.....
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Beverly - Its hard enough for us that stay on regularly to keep up. Im stilll playing catch up in some areas of the board. Its easy to get behind.
Keep us posted tho our thoughts are with you and Betsy. I wish shed hurry I wanna see what she's been cooking so long lol
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

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Jenni,
You???? I wanna see too!!!!!!!!!! lolol....I just sneaked a peak and she looks uncomfortable, pacing, swishing, just never know.....I'm just hoping and praying that she will be ok along with baby.....Trying to get the pics up now......Hopefully I can figure this out soon.....
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 36
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Jenni,
You???? I wanna see too!!!!!!!!!! lolol....I just sneaked a peak and she looks uncomfortable, pacing, swishing, just never know.....I'm just hoping and praying that she will be ok along with baby.....Trying to get the pics up now......Hopefully I can figure this out soon.....
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Beverly - If I was you I'd have gone insane by now. Just thinking of a mare, Babe, we used to have makes me cringe. lol She used to do this same thing to me. So I feel ya!!!!!!!!! Hopefully soon
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 37
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Hi all!!!! Nope, not yet.....ughhhhhhhh..... Betsy is very agitated, very aggressive with one of our other mares and chasing etc, so we put them up a little early....She is cringing a bit for lack of a better word, like she is in pain, discomfort??? She has been sweating alot on her chest since this morning, and a bit in front of her back flanks. Udder still full, husband said milk was dripping a little yesterday morning.....She thinks she is soooo smart!!!!! But you gotta love em'!!!!! Hopefully........Soon, very soon as I'm about to just check myself into the mental ward!!!!
 

Colleen Beck
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Hang in there girl, its worth it!
 

Amanda Pearrson
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colleen
hey i went to your website (you have some very pretty horses) I noticed you have big draft horses how do there bags fill before foaling my girl has a small bag. I don't know when she was bred or anything all I know is she is for sure bred. My horses are percherons and the man that had them did not take care of them that is why I am so concerned about them. I don't want anything to happen to her or the baby. the only thing I know about her pregnancy is she was bred to a big jack. She is a little skinny from not being fed right. do you know about when I should worm her. thank you for all your help. I feel so bad having to ask you all this.
 

Beverly Jackson
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Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 38
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I'm a day away from insane!!! Betsy was dripping milk again this morning, she's been up and down all day, biting at stomach, holding tail up for long periods of time. She let me brush her this morning, but would not let me near her butt or under her belly. Vulva is relaxed, a bit swollen. Please, please, please let it be tonight!!!! Happy Foaling Everyone....I may finally get some well needed rest after today I hope!!!!
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Beverly - It sounds promising Happy foaling
 

Nancy McGee
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Sending good foaling vibes your way. C'mon Betsy
 

Dianne Edwards
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Beverly I know how you feel!!!! I tried to get the kids to help me push it out(LOL)
 

Roxanne
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No baby yet. Ginger is enormous.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/back.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/front.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/back3.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/side.jpg
 

Colleen Beck
Yearling
Username: Gypsycreations

Post Number: 63
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Amanda,

My girls get BIG bags, but they aren't maidens. Eve's bag is usually really full and hard for several days before she foals. She drips/waxes for a half day before she foals.

I keep them on their normal worming routine (every 3 months) throughout their pregnancies and then worm them about a month after foaling.

I don't know what you are feeding her, but if she is malnourished, may I suggest senior feed. It is readily digestible and I've had a lot of success with it on my mares that don't want to hold their weight. As with any feed, start adding it slowly to her diet. I would begin now to get a jump on it. Draft foals really pull their mother's down quickly - much more so than the light horse foals that my friends own. Of course make sure she is getting as much good quality hay as she will eat as well. No time to skimp now, LOL! How far along is she? Have you posted pics somewhere?
 

Amanda Pearrson
Neonate
Username: Apearson

Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen
no pics yet. I will get you all some quickly, the guy we bought her from said she was due at the last of this month. when I went and checked her this morning her bag was seemingly larger than yesterday.but it is not huge! she has really sweated ALOT more today than usual. I really don't know what to make of her. I know she is not a maiden either we seen her foal from last year it was gorgeous the guy we bought her from still has it. Thank you for helping me through this!!!!
 

Lori
Weanling
Username: Shstables

Post Number: 22
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck Beverly!! And everyone else who is waiting up on foaling watch!! I my mares are 307 and 299 days. So I am earlier than you are. I hope all goes well.
 

Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 12
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Question to anyone:
Is it possible my mare (photos in above message) may have alot of water to support her foal...or is she having a giant foal?
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 146
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne she does look big, but I wouldnt worry, I had one in Nov that was hugh and her baby is not even that big. Could be just the way she is built or the position the baby is in making it look so huge. My mare was kinda short backed if you know what I mean.

She looks alot like my girl photos on maiden mare thread. ( Winnie)
 

Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will find your photos and take a look. My mare is 15 hands and bred to a 16.2 English Shire and he has a monster build. She is almost all the way bagged up thank God!
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 148
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck!
 

Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dianne: Yes you are right. Winnie is also big. What breed was the sire of your mare that foaled in November?
 

Tiffany Wright
Breeding Stock
Username: Wrightkoss

Post Number: 381
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bev - I can't believe that you haven't had a baby yet. Are you having the vet out this week or is she acting better? Hope she goes soon, poor girl.

Roxanne - your mare looks like she swallowed 2 barrels. Goodness... She definitely doesn't look like she has dropped yet. Good luck!
 

Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you because I think I'm gonna need it.
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 152
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne I had 2 and they were both bred to the same stallion as Winnie, My Drew!

Here are their pics

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/apache.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/mamaedwards/whitebaby.jpg

After hurricane Katrina all my fences were down, trees down everywhere, it took some time to get things back in order so all my horses where together in one pasture, soooo all my mare got pregnant.
 

Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh Dianne they are just adorable! I'm glad everything is back in order for you since Katrina. That must have been very difficult. How is Winnie? Do you know her due date?
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 159
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne thanks the white one Isis has 2 blue eyes and the blk/wht Addy has one, we are still clearing dead trees and building fences my Dad has a 300 acre dairy and he had real problems so we have been helping him alot and doing best we can on our place.

I think Winnie is about ready just waiting for baby to make appearance, I am not sure of her due date, date of last possible exposure would have put her due on March 11, sooooo I guess we will see.
How is Ginger coming along? I could not find in previous post when is she due?
 

Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do not know the due date. The stallion got loose and bred her. I believe that was around March 27, 2006 so that would make her overdue at this point. I will attach photo of the stallion. He is an English Shire, very much bigger than poor Ginger. I am riding him in one of the photos, but he is not mine.
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Roxanne
Nursing Foal
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok let me try that again:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/cyrus-1.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/cyrus2.jpg
 

Lynn Ison
Breeding Stock
Username: Lynndi

Post Number: 177
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly??? The suspense is killing me !! Anything yet??
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 164
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne he is really pretty, should make for a beautiful baby!!! He is large!!!!!!
 

JANE OLNEY
Yearling
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 85
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly must be very busy....
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK everyone. Here are more pix and Ginger's udders taken yesterday. Am I close??

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/IMG_1231.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/IMG_1213.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/IMG_1210.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/IMG_1209.jpg
 

Dorthy Brown
Yearling
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 70
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She looks close to me I would be watching her very closely
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 256
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly anything yet??????????????????
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 29
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No foal yet. It's never coming.
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone...I'm so sorry about the delay in response. I am embarrassed to even say this, but all this time I've been soooo worried and loosing all this sleep, then it happened. Don't kill me when you all hear this ok??? I was soooo sure I remembered the due date right??? My husband was standing by the refrigerator a couple nights ago after Betsy laid out in our front yard like she was going to foal, and he looked at two pictures I took of the sire a couple days after they began breeding. The picture had April 18, 2006....So I was a month off....Sorry.....So she is actually due now or yesterday. This has turned into a nightmare!!!! lol.....

Then today, I found out that a horse a man gave us because he said she miscarried and he couldn't get her to gain any weight, her name is Macey, is pregnant as well. The man told us that she was not out in the pasture with the stud after the miscarriage so we are wondering if maybe she was carrying twins and aborted one of them......Ughhhhhhhhh could my luck get any worse??? Since we've had her, about 3 months, we have given her medicine to clear up her stomach as she had severe diahrea at first. We have wormed her probably 3 times before we knew she was pregnant. I pray all goes well with her. She is putting on alot of weight since we got her, but we are not sure what condition the baby is in.

Updates to continue more regular....Sorry about the date mix up too, had us all excited for nothing!!! But she is due now so let's pray!!!
 

Mood Swings
Weanling
Username: Mood_swings

Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, I feel bad for you, you must be exhausted. No worries about the mix-up because as we all know these mares can fool us no matter what their last breeding date :-)
Here is a funny article I got from another forum. I thought it would be appropriate to post here. Enjoy :-)

"Foaling Mare's Secret Code"

The mare's secret code of honor is as old as horses themselves and is ultimately the species best kept secret. NO mare shall ever produce a foal before it's time.

It's time being determined by the following factors:

1. No foal shall be born until total chaos has been reached by all involved. Your house must be a wreck, your family hungry and desperate for clean clothes, and your social life non-existent.

2. Midwives must reach the babbling fool status before you foal out. Bloodshot eyes, tangled hair and the inability to form a sentence means you're getting close.

3. For every bell, beeper, camera or whistle they attach to you, foaling must be delayed by at least one day for each item.

4. Vet check, add a day…internal, add three! If you hear the words, "She's nowhere near ready…you will be fine, while I'm away for the weekend," then wait 12 to 16 hours and pop that baby out!

5. Owner's stress must be at an all time high! If you are in the care of someone else, ten to fifteen phone calls a day is a sign you're getting close. When you hear the words, "I can't take it anymore!"…wait three days and produce a foal.

6. You must keep this waiting game interesting. False alarms are necessary! Little teasers such as looking at your stomach, pushing your food around in the bucket and then walking away from it are always good for a rise. Be creative and find new things to do to keep the adrenaline pumping in those who wait.

7. The honor of all horses is now in your hands. Use this time to avenge all of your stable mates. Think about your friend who had to wear that silly costume in front of those people. Hang onto that baby for another day. Oh, they made him do tricks too! Three more days seems fair. Late feedings, the dreaded diet, bad haircuts, those awful wormings can also be avenged at this time.

8. If you have fulfilled all of the above and are still not sure when to have this foal, listen to the weather forecast on the radio that has been so generously provided by those who wait. Severe thunderstorm warnings is what your looking for. In the heart of the storm jump into action! The power could go out and you could have the last laugh. You have a good chance of those who wait missing the whole thing while searching for a flashlight that works!

9. Make the most of your interrupted nights. Beg for food each time someone comes into the stable to check on you. Your stable mates will love you as the extra goodies fall their way too!

10. Remember, this code of honor was designed to remind man of how truly special horses are. Do your best to reward those who wait with a beautiful filly to carry on the mare code of honor for the next generation of those who wait!

–Author Unknown
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 40
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Moodswings.......LOLOL.....Thanks, I really needed that...I was beginning to think I was just really on the verge of insanity...She has been having all the signs at one point or the other and just driving me to outerspace!!! This is my first foal so you can imagine. I spend countless hours watching her, through the window, peeking around the porch to her stable, like I'm doing something illegal...LOL....She seems to be getting easier about letting me around her in close proximity the past two weeks. She keeps laying down right in front of me when I'm outside and just laying there, legs sprauled out in front of her...Playing with me I think...lol...Anyways, thanks for that, I felt it deep down....
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 282
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly - dont worry bout it we've all been there at one time or another. keep us posted.
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 171
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OMG Beverly I just saw your post. But everything is going to be okay. I am going to post some new pics of Annie in foalwatch 2007. Good luck to you and your pregnant mares
 

marilyn kennedy
Neonate
Username: Marilyn

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a mare that carried her foal 3 days shy of a year.

And a friend of mine had a mare that always carried her babies a year and a week !!

So, who needs sleep anyway????

Continued good wishes. We all wait with you!
 

Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 490
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That secret code list is right on.
With Grace this year, I knew I was in dire fatigue from nights of foal watch when I fell asleep....sitting up, on the couch, indian style, with the laptop in my lap. I had been keeping an eye on her (monitor linked to the computer...wireless), and completely bottomed out.
So worth it though :-).
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 201
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a mare that carried her first foal 1 year and 2 weeks! Second time around one year exactly! This time ???? we will see...Im hoping that this trend of dropping a couple weeks is going to continue. Hang in there!
 

Michele
Weanling
Username: Mich

Post Number: 48
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, hope your mare is ok. It sounds to me as though she could have been suffering from mild colics or stomache aches. I've had one or two mares who go through distinctly uncomfortable times a month or so before foaling,and it's usually because there's a big foal in there and not much room for anything else especially as they're on a premium amount of food during pregnancy. It's never developed into proper colic, but it can make the mare really uncomfortable and it's nerve-wracking to see. Excercise [walking] is paramount - being cooped up in a stable is probably the worst thing you can do for the mare.

Also, just out of interest, mares *cannot* delay giving birth. It's not up to the mare when the foal is born, it's due to the size of the foal.
Good luck
 

jennifer kinser
Neonate
Username: Lazysummer

Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare is due at the end of April and this is so exciting!
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Updated #five million!! lol...Betsy is doing fine. Actual date should have been early last week. She has been having same symptoms as earlier but now her vulva is relaxing and she is having a little discharge of a whitish color that is keeping the bottom of vulva moist. Vulva actually looks like it is open at the bottom. She is having unusual gas passing....Agitated today more than usual. I'm just keeping up the watch!!! Happy foaling to everyone!!!
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/grace.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/grace2.jpg
FINALLY my mare delivered a filly on March 26th at 1:10 a.m. Luckily I was there and saw the whole thing. I even helped her come into the world by gently providing traction since Ginger was having contractions, but it seemed that the foal wasn't making any more progress coming out. Her water never broke so I peeled the sac off the foal. She is large. Her name is Grace. My mare carried her just one day short of a year. Coincidently, Ginger's last foal was also born on March 26th. Both of my horses now have the same birthday. What are the chances??
 

Kris Moos
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Kris

Post Number: 1035
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne!
congrats to you !!! what a nice looking b&w filly! so that must have been wax huh?
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kris! I don't think it was wax when I put that message on here because I checked the milk and it was clear at that point. My filly has BLUE eyes and I wanted blue eyes.
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 111
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She is beautiful! She looks like a Grace.
 

Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock
Username: Raven

Post Number: 569
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne, what a cutie of a filly you have!!
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 205
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne! Congratulations! She is darling and already looks like she is going to be full of it!
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 43
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne, ABSOLUTELY STUNNING!!!! She is soooooooo cute!!!! I'm so happy for you!!!!
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 182
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congratsulations Roxanne. Way to go...
 

Justin Blake
Neonate
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey everyone! still no baby here yet! i havent had time to update anyone but here it is!..the milk is now a orange yellow looking color..thick..it almost looks like horse pee(sounds discusting i know!)..but her bags are empty now..they fill and empty as they please! she isnt leaking i guess it just goes back up in her?..anyway what do you all think? is it supposed to be that orangeish color?
 

Justin Blake
Neonate
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 7
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OH! And Roxanne! i want it lol!VERRY pretty!
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 45
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No baby here yet either! She is flustered, very cranky, vulva long and swollen. Vulva also moist, alot of swishing, up and down, holding tail up, breathing hard, sweating on her chest. She has been letting me around, to check her, but not since dark today. Tailhead is very exposed and she is like jello in rear and flank. Stomping really hard, kicking stomach, biting stomach. ????????? Maybe soon guys. Happy continued foaling to all!!!
 

Justin Blake
Neonate
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1874.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1873.jpg

this is what her milk looks like
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 236
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne that is a pretty little filly you have!!! I love the blue eyes too.
 

Justin Blake
Neonate
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok so maybe under a bright light it looks yellow..but without the flash it would look orange!
 

Justin Blake
Neonate
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 03:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/?action=view&current=Pictur e1877.flv

video of the baby kicking

justin,Alabama
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 42
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for all the compliments everyone!

Beverly, my mare sweated right before she went into labor.

Justin, my mare's milk was a yellowish color the day or two prior to foaling.

Jan you are very right about that. She is full of it already! She's adorable to watch.
 

Colleen Beck
Yearling
Username: Gypsycreations

Post Number: 96
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Roxanne, I'd say she was worth the wait! Beautiful!!

Justin..Cool video!!
 

Sandy Smith
Weanling
Username: Sandystone

Post Number: 36
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne - what a gorgeous little filly! Your filly and mine would make a great pair together!
I love the name Grace! Here's little Stella, born 3/28/07.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v76/equisan52/Crystals%20Baby/
 

Dorthy Brown
Yearling
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 74
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gorgeous babies.........I can't wait until mine is born!! I want a black and white filly!!
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 44
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They sure would Sandy. Stella is gorgeous too!! I just love her face. Congratulations! My son named her Graceful, and Grace for short.

Colleen thank you. When she gets older I want to breed her to a Gypsy Stallion to get a foal with some furry boots!!
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 228
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roxanne and Sandy: I put their pictures up next to one another; they are both so cute! It is kind of fun to compare the markings.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 11
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i hope she has her baby soon! i think im about to either die or go insane..wich ever comes first!
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.zippyvideos.com/4028704266822786/picture_1877/*arroblake9212

here is the whole video of the baby kicking..photobucket cut the other one down to 12 seconds..

**this video is not reccomended for dialup users..it is a 18 MB video!**

Justin
 

Sandy Smith
Weanling
Username: Sandystone

Post Number: 37
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dorothy - hello! I was wondering about your mare. You are still waiting - thank goodness she waited for warmer weather, right? Is your mares showing any signs of foaling soon? I still have 1 more mare who is due on Mother's Day. I should get another Black & White from her, but maybe more black as she is an overo. Both my babies are for sale this year, if you really want a Black and White! LOL!
 

Dorthy Brown
Yearling
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am still waiting--yes I am glad she waited til better weather but I am starting to think its going to be full grown when it comes out!! My poor mare is so huge. The foal seems to have dropped and she is being to get a small udder--again--she at one point had gotten a large bag a couple months ago--the vet said it was probably just a hormonal fluctuation. He was out for spring shots a couple weeks ago and said she looks great(other than huge) and everything is fine, so we are just waiting............I hate not knowing when she was bred
 

Roxanne
Weanling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 45
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will my filly turn black and white? I thought she would, however, if you look at her face, she has a tinge of like a brown color.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/grace3.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u158/Roxanne381/grace4.jpg
 

Sandy Smith
Weanling
Username: Sandystone

Post Number: 38
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dorothy - I hope you don't have to wait much longer. I thought I would go nuts waiting and Crystal wasn't even overdue!

Roxanne - I think B/W babies tend to get a little mousy colored for awhile. Usually that mousy color is gray or brown. I think she will end up being Black/White.
 

Dorthy Brown
Yearling
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 76
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well she usually only trusts me enough to come up to her in the pasture but when I talked to my husband today(I'm at work) he said she came right up to him and let him pet her and scratch her etc--she usually scurries away from anyone but me... maybe thats a sign she's getting closer. I have always heard they either get really grumpy or they get unusually nice and lovey!! I hope I hope I hope!!
 

bren Callaway
Neonate
Username: Travellersgirl

Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This site has been wonderful to read and especially the pics-it reminds me of what may be the reward. I 've been sleeping in the trailer at the barn for 15 days now and Kitty is on day 341. I did the milk test tonight after reading this and the milk is clearish, the black plastic is easy to see through the milk. She has so many other signs-elongated vulva, squishy hind quarters, yawning. It's going to be hard to go to work tomorrow butI feel a little better knowing there are other sleep-deprived, worried,obsessed horse lovers out there.
 

Vicky daMota
Neonate
Username: Corriedale2

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Same here Bren, I have slept on bales in front of her stall, slept in the Jeep in front of the barn and still going to work, working at least 50 hours a week, only to come home and making sure she is alright. Luckily, my son and husband work here at home so they can check on her, and let me know if there is any progress while I am away.
I had a dream last night that she had a beautiful baby. I guess you can tell I cannot wait. She is 335 days today, and of course has all the signs, but waxing.
I wouldnt trade if for anything...I am so excited }}}}
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 239
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck, Bren and Vicky. The anticipation makes it all the sweeter. My first baby ever was born 13 days ago. I ended up trading the endless barn visits to check on the pregnant mare to endless barn visits to check on mom and baby! Just came in from being mouthed all over by a sassy little filly; priceless! Hang in there!
 

Vicky daMota
Neonate
Username: Corriedale2

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK!JUST HAD A BEAUTIFUL COLT THIS AFTERNOON! MOM GAVE BIRTH STANDING UP...I WASNT READY FOR THAT...AND THEN RETAINED THE PLACENTA, HAD TO CALL THE VET AND HE GAVE HER THE OXICOTIN..(sp?)SHOT, PLUS SEVERAL MORE, BUT SHE SEEMS TO BE DOING WELL...HER BABY IS ADORABLE..LUCKY IS HIS NICKNAME! SHE WAS WAXING THIS MORNING WHEN I WENT TO TURN HER OUT WITH THE OTHER MARES...I KNEW IT WOULDNT BE LONG...I AM SO GLAD THIS WAS MY DAY OFF!!! AND A FULL MOON TO BOOT!}
 

Kristyn Sherman
Neonate
Username: Kiki_marie

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I'm new on here and have been following this thread for a bit. Does anyone know how Beverly's mare is doing and if she's had the foal yet?

As for me, my mare is due the 25th of this month, but I think she may have it a bit sooner. I just love reading all your posts and knowing I'm not the only one playing the waiting game. My mare has had many foals, but I'm new to this, so I have learned a lot from all your posts!
 

Roxanne
Yearling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 52
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vicky congratulations and if you happen to have a dream about lottery numbers...please do share with us!!!
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 46
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone...As for me and Betsy.....I have just simply given up...Exhausted, worried, I am just worn out. She is having all the signs but strangely, her vulva will start relaxing and then the next day be tightened back up. We were breeding our other mares last week and Betsy could see what was going on and she became really restless and then had a discharge like she was in heat.???? My husband and I see the baby, feel it, see the waxing, the milk, I mean what is going on??? She was due by the calculator March 18. She has had several colts in the past from what the previous owners told me when I bought her 3 years ago so she knows what she's doing. I can only wait in anticipation. My husband doesn't seem to be worried at all. Congratulations to all who have foaled, I've seen the pics put up and they are all absolutely adorable. My heart sings for you!!! I can't wait, if I live to see it....lol....
 

Vicky daMota
Neonate
Username: Corriedale2

Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, it will all be worth the wait..I just adore my baby...I will figure out how to post pictures...and get them up.
Sounds like she is taking her own sweet time, but it will make it all the sweeter!}
 

Tiffany Whitehouse
Neonate
Username: Tiffw

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, I feel for you... I myself am at day 393 with my APHA mare. I am 100% positive on breeding date we AI..
My mare has had 5 ultrasounds during the pregnancy 2 in the last 3 weeks.
I am going crazy!!!!! Now I am concerned at this point. The vets think it will be a weak small foal.. Hope all goes well for you.
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 47
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany, I would have lost it by day 393...Does the longer they carry mean that something is wrong? Is the baby expected to be underweight if they carry longer than due date??? I will say a prayer for you and your foal and mare. I hope this waiting game will end soon as for me, I'm just beyond words.....Good luck to you....!!!
 

Roxanne
Yearling
Username: Roxanne

Post Number: 54
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly
My mare delivered one day before carrying a full year. Nothing was wrong with her foal. She was a nice big, healthy baby. She delivered on the day her milk dripped.
 

Tiffany Whitehouse
Neonate
Username: Tiffw

Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly
This mare tends to carry them longer, her last pregnancy in 2005 she carried 267, but this is ridiculous!!! Yes, the vets feel the baby will be under sized and weak when it finally happens. Something has delayed its fetal development. Not sure what it could have been.
What day are you on?
Nothing to do but wait and that is so stressful. MAYBE TONIGHT, is'nt that what we have been saying every night for 2 months.}
 

Kristyn Sherman
Neonate
Username: Kiki_marie

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, thanks for the update, I was getting worried. Hang in there, I'm sure it won't be much longer.
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 257
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany, I hope she foals soon! Both mare and baby to come are lucky to have such a dedicated human friend!
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 196
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly I can not believe no foal yet. How frustrating. But nature knows best.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 13
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Everyone!!..My Mare gave birth to a beautiful baby filly last night!..unfourtainatly she did not live!..i noticed blood on my mare this morning and thought she was going into labor and then went walking around the pasture and found her dead!..Her name is Baby!

RIP Baby! However i never got to see you alive i will always love and miss you!

Justin,Alabama
 

Vicky daMota
Neonate
Username: Corriedale2

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am so sorry Justin...You will be in my prayers
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 14
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Vicky
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 261
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a huge sadness to bear, Justin. I'm so sorry.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 15
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lori i know this is a bit out of the way but i took a picture of the little girl for all of you to see!i wish she would have lived!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1884.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1880.jpg
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 299
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin I am sorry for your loss she was a pretty little thing. I know I havent posted but I have read your mail and posts. Will you have the vet look her over or not? Prayers for Baby.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 16
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

have the vet look the baby over?..do i need to?..im going to burry here tomorrow but if i need to have the vet look at her i will take her out there!
 

Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 300
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin- you really dont need to have the vet look at Baby but it could give you insight as to what went wrong. I would have the vet look at momma tho exspecialy if you ever plan on rebreeding her. Just to make sure she cleaned out and doesnt have an infection.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 17
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok i will do that!...i plan on having her re-bred in May to the same stallion!..maybe this time it will work out!
 

Sandy Smith
Yearling
Username: Sandystone

Post Number: 52
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin - I am so sorry for your loss. Baby looks like she would have been a beautiful horse. Remember that she is running free with all of the other lost babies at the Rainbow Bridge. It is expensive - but I would have a necropsy done on the foal if you can. I would want to know why she didn't live. It may be something you can fix with the mare during her next pregnancy. It's just way too hard waiting 11+ months for a baby only to have it die.
 

Dorthy Brown
Yearling
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 79
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very sorry for your loss.........
 

Kristyn Sherman
Neonate
Username: Kiki_marie

Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Poor Baby, hope all goes well with the next one.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 18
Registered: 03-2007
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ssoo where is Tiffany?..we are both in the same boat now..im just wondering how she got over it?..i feel like someone stomped on my heart and then stomped on it more..

i think im gonna call her "Baby Angel"

i am so depressed.i feel like i am all alone and have noone to talk to..i feel like when i found her dead i died too!..i wish this was a dream..i wish someone would pinch me and wake me up..i wish there was something i could take to stop all these tears..but most of all i wish she was still here with me and her mom and the rest of her horse family...

i just want to be alone in a dark room with a box of tissues!

for all of you that are expecting foals i hope everything goes well for each and every one of you..i wish this pain that i am feeling on noone else! not even my worse enemy...

She is being buried today 04-06-07

good luck to you all..

Love and hope the best for everyone!!

Justin
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 266
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany hasn't been on for awhile. Maybe someone who has her email address can get you in touch with her.
I can't imagine what you're going through, Justin. That must be so hard. She sure didn't die for lack of love. I hope you find comfort in your other horses for now.
 

Cyndi
Yearling
Username: Jusblve

Post Number: 53
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My goodness Justin, I'm so sorry about Baby, She's a beautiful filly, thank you for sharing her picture with all of us. Hope that mom is doing ok, but most of all, WE are all here to listen and talk to you whenever you need us to be. This will be my first foal (maiden mare)and I don't get on much because I prefer to listen and observe more..... but!!!!! there are many, many ladies and guys on this site that at one time or another have gone through the hurt you're feeling. One thing I know for sure, if your hurting, than the rest of us are hurting there with you in spirit!!!!!!! YOU ARE NOT ALONE. I pray for you that the healing will begin.
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 48
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin, I am so sorry for your loss. Baby is a beautiful filly and would have been a prize. Is a prize nonetheless. You are in my prayers as well as Baby Angel. My heart goes out to you.
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 19
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you! Thank All of you!..i think i am going to e-mail tiffany tonight and tell her the bad news..today was the hardest day for me!..putting her in the ground was the hardest thing i have ever had to do!..i took some clippings of her tail hair and put them up so i can keep them forever!..i want to breed to the same stallion so i will have her brother/sister to help remember her by!..i swear to all of you..and i know you are all going to say it isnt my fault but i feel like it is because i was not there for her that night!..i just feel like there was something more i could have done..but like i told the other people!..if she would have lived through the birth we would have had to have her euthanized because her hoofs were not completely formed..she was born premature?

And Cyndi thanks for the comforting words!..i have taken sleeping pills so i can go to bed tonight..i just feel like there is a big void in my life now!..i know i still have my other horses but every time i go around them i think of her..i swear!! i may be young but i think im on the verge of a heart attack because i am so depressed/stressed...i know it may seem wierd but i took lots of pictures of her!! im going to have a tomb stone made for her and im going to plant a bunch of flowers around her grave!..

i hope i NEVER have to experience pain like this again!
 

Nancy McGee
Breeding Stock
Username: Ndv101

Post Number: 198
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin i just saw your post and I am so sorry to hear about your foal. There are no words to make you feel any better at this horrible time in your life. But it will get better with time. I cannot imagine what you are going through just know you are in our thoughts and prayers. Take careof yourself and that mare. God Bless.
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 218
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin,
I am so sorry for your pain. I know exactly how you are feeling. I lost a filly foal last year. She died during the birth due to an undetected infection in her mom. Heartbreaking. But there is always something to be grateful for and something to hope for in the future. You can be extremely grateful that your mare survived. You can be hopeful that you can rebreed. I strongly suggest that you have your mare's reproductive tract checked before rebreeding. I did and we found the infection. My mare was properly treated and today is 250 days in foal with another foal from the same stallion. Hope. Your filly looked perfect. Her feet are fine. When they are first born the have "slippers" on so that they don't hurt mom on the way into the world. Prayers are with you. Jan O
 

Vicky daMota
Neonate
Username: Corriedale2

Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justin,
Your little filly girl was absolutely beautiful. I am so sorry, I know how hard it is for you...and the momma, she must be depressed as well...Just keep a close eye on her also, and you two will make it through it together...God Bless...Vicky
 

Justin Blake
Nursing Foal
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 20
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Nancy,Jan and Vicky!!

Jan- the baby's hoofs were hollow..i didnt take pictures of them because it was horrible looking..but her hoofs looked and felt like jello..her hoofs were hollow? not sure if they were supposed to be that way but thats how they were
 

Jennifer Graef
Nursing Foal
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 20
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The jello feet were normal. They would have hardened quickly.
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 21
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok everyone!! i think we have come up with the reason my little girl died!!

Fescue poisoning!

Jennifer i wish i would have taken pictures of her hoofs now! so you could see!! but that is the only logical reason i could find!..i am going to send some of our grass out in the pasture to a lab and have it tested..i will let you all know the outcome of the results!
 

Beverly Jackson
Weanling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 49
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fescue poisining?? Crap, I just planted a few acres of grass and saw the word fescue on the package. Wonderful...What else could go wrong?
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 21
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, if you recently planted fescue in the pasture it will have no affect on this pregnancy. The fescue has to be mature to be a problem.
http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/toxicagents/fesalk.html

Justin, I know exactly what you are talking about having had seen many many foals born. I am VERY convinced that it was perfectly normal, though it could be scary if you didn't know. I worked on an arab show farm in college and when owners were present for the birth of their foals they ALWAYS thought there was something wrong with the hooves and they always thought they were premature because of the "tucked up" look they have for a few days. I have heard the hooves thing a hundred times. It is an adaptation to protect the mother during the birth process. The hooves are encased in floppy hoof colored "rubber boots". These are long and tubish. The actual hooves are very small and you would have to trim off the slippers to get to them. Normally the foal standing and walking wears the slippers off.

For the fescue thing, was your foal very overdue? Did the mare have milk? The muscle tone looked fine in the pictures but its of course hard to tell. Did you find the foal in the sac? Was it still in birthing position? Why did you not have an autopsy so that if you rebreed you don't have to worry about the same thing next year? Its such a heartache, why risk in being something that will happen again? Without an autopsy speculating is pointless really.
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a not great picture...scroll down till you see the hooves one:
http://www.bigoakfarm.com/this_is_colby_being_born.htm
 

Beverly Jackson
Yearling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 51
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone. I'm going out to take some pics in a few min and try to post them again. I had someone out to look at Betsy and they too say any day. She has had really obvious things happening within the past two days. We noticed three days ago while every step she took, milk was dripping. Her bag is obviously fuller every morning now. Teats are very big now. Stomach has dropped dramatically and looks even bigger. She is pacing, biting stomach, vulva very swollen from previous days, pacing, etc, etc etc....Hopefully soon. Bad weather here the past two days, another storm tonight. Oh, and I read the key theory thread last night, I tried it and it says I'm having a filly. Happy foaling to all!!!!!!! Maybe an easter baby for me!!!
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 22
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer-Yeah i now think the feet thing is normal so now i know and won't think they were under-formed now..now the fescue on other hand..if i do breed her again we are going to treat her with a drug called Domperidone and if the baby does not live then she nor any other of my horses will be bred again!..Yes when i found her she was in the sak and in the foaling position..umbilical cord still in tact and never broken and still attached to placenta..when i moved her i cut the umbilical cord to remove the placenta..

but when she was born she looked like she never even had a chance..no tears in the sak..it was still perfectly in place..
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 23
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OH! and Jennifer the milk of my mare was very weird..she did not have much milk when the baby was born!..but now her teats are still not completely full!..so i would say no..she never formed a full udder!
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 24
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer i just went out and looked at my mare's udder and her milk still isnt there!..she still has some colostrum but there is no color to it..maybe i should get you a picture
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That could be a sign of a fescue problem. Your local ag. extension can come out and look at and test your grass and can tell you if you are in a problem area. Your mare is lucky though not to have full painful udders and have no foal to empty them. Make sure to give her turnout until they are totally normal. The walking will help her. Poor thing. At least she didn't suffer. Just never "woke up". Better luck next year. I can't imagine finding a gorgous foal like that. One of my mare lost at 90 days last year and that was hard enough!
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 25
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer it was very hard!! they will come out here? wow i was going to have to send the grass samples to Auburn University but they still have not called me back to tell me where to send it!..im getting agrivated with them because i want to know if my pasture has the fescue fungus so i can get it out of there!!
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just to clarify..yes, in my area they will come out to your place and look.

Fescue is a type of grass. You have to know what fescue looks like in order to collect it as a sample. If you can identify fescue in your pasture and have a lot of it then you don't really need to have it tested, just assume it is infected.

It is not a fungus it is an endophye infection. If your fescue does not have the endophyte then it is 100% safe...but, it could get infected at any time. You can only test mature fescue for the endophye.
 

bren Callaway
Neonate
Username: Travellersgirl

Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin- so very sorry about your loss.I have you both in my prayers-thank heaven the mare survived. Fescue is a huge problem for pregnant mares,especially in the southeast. I used to have a pasture with fescue but never had a problem,probably because my husband was always there to break the sack. I've lived in my new place for seven years( he died),and have common bermuda (and lots of weeds) . Every fall i overseeded with rye and clover. THIS year I was too busy at work to over seed and the guy who usually took care of it had died in a farming accident. Low and behold, I went into the pasture in Feb and I saw fesue (eaten down by the mare) everywhere in her pasture.I guess the overseeding of rye and clover had masked it. I pulled her off the pasture( a month before her due date) and am keeping her up-off the fescue-but she is still overdue -we're at day 356 now.I called the extension agent who came out but was young and really didn't have an exact answer. I call a UGA friend who identified the thick clumps of wide stem grasses as fescue. He said to assume it was all infected because even if that clump isn't , the one across the field may be and infect it the next year.He said the main probles were 1-thickening of the sack,2-prolonged gestation,3-no milk and 4- placentitis. I live in Ga so his cue was if it is early March, you have green grass growing and it's not a planted cool-season grass(like the rye or clover)it's probably fescue. Round-up is an effective fescue-cide and I am taking out my sorrow with a tank of it every dry spell.
 

bren Callaway
Neonate
Username: Travellersgirl

Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin, I just saw the pictures of your angel. She's beautiful.I am so saddened.
 

PJ Sermons
Neonate
Username: Pjcowgirl

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi I am new to this post. Ran across it while surffing the web on the gestation period of mares. I have a mare that is at 370 days today and I have been going nuts worring about her. She has never gone this long before, usually will go about 8 to 10 days past the norm 341 but never this long. So I started searching the Web and have found a site that says the average is 320 to 370 days. And I am getting that prolonged gestations may be a sign on some type of development issue and that it could be a small babyso instead of helping my worry I have increased it. Anyone have some foaling experinces that my help my worry.
 

tracey phipps
Nursing Foal
Username: Tracey_p

Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bren

My pasture is mostly fescue/some orchard grass - in Tennessee I think fescue is the norm. The best solution for me with ok from vet, was "the solution to pollution is dilution". My mare is due anyday now. All winter and right now, I have been feeding a tim/orchard grass mix hay - all she can eat. She is out on a small 1/3 acre pasture during the day and stalled at night with plenty of hay. There is very minimal grass in that paddock, I turned all three out on it to eat it down and it is pretty bare, but there is some. I cannot keep the mare stalled 24 hours, it just wouldn't be fair to her, she is an Arabian and has been doing pretty well just being stalled at night - she dislikes being confined.

Her exposure to fescue does concern me a little, but to be honest around here, some of the old timers do not even take their mares off the fescue.
 

PJ Sermons
Neonate
Username: Ridingcowgirl

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin I am sooo sorry to read about you lossing your baby. I can only imagine how much that must have hurt. but we all must remember there is a reason for everything, we just may not understand it at the time it happens. Prayers are with you.
Also would like to have a update from Tiffany with her overdue mare.
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 140
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tiffany had a baby and there are pictures...
http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/tiffw_album/?action=view&current=ToFancyt oMiss047.jpg
I pulled the pict for my husband to see her incredible view!
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 232
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PJ..welcome to the board. In 2003 my mare foaled on day 379. It was an awful long wait and my little colt was pretty small. He was a scrappy fellow and is now 4 and a wonderful trail horse although he is a little on the small size. We will never know if it was genetics or his delayed arrival :-) Hang in there, I found this sight looking for articles about long gestations too.
 

Emily West
Weanling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 22
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly,
I just had to say I give you lots of credit for hanging in there. I had not been on here for several months and today when I started at the top of this thread and read through it quickly all the way to the bottom I was surprised that there was no news of the foal. I do hope things go well for you.


I was also saddened to see that some people lost their foals and I am deeply sorry.
 

Beverly Jackson
Yearling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 52
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Emily,
This has been an absolute roller coaster ride for me. I have lost all sense of what is really supposed to be happening....Starting to wonder if I'm imagining this entire pregnancy and all the signs of impending labor. I recently got a stud, or my smart husband got one, and we have him in a stud pen. She started swelling and elongating in her vulva, milk bags were huge and all the biting stomach, kicking, etc. But every time we let her out to graze, the stud starts hollering and every mare I have starts squirting like they are in heat. Even Betsy which is scaring me. Someone told me to keep her away from the stud as some mares will have false heats if they are around a stud. So I have kept them separated but is it normal and do you think it's having an effect on the baby or the prolonged pregnancy? Thanks for any input.....
 

Dorthy Brown
Yearling
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 80
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It won't prolong her pregnancy......
 

Emily West
Weanling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 39
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly,
Yes, they can show signs of heat when they are pregnant but as long as she is never with the stud I don't think it will effect the foal.
How many days is she now?
Hope you have a healthy foal soon.
 

Beverly Jackson
Yearling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Emily,
She is now at day 365 today. One month overdue. All I can do is continue to pray that foal is ok and not underweight.
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 30
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why don't you just have a vet out and make sure she is pregnant in the first place? I didn't see how many ultrasounds and palpations she has had (of course it s a LONG thread and I didn't read it all). When was the last time the pregnancy was confirmed? If she was just covered and never confirmed in foal there is a great chance that she isn't pregnant at all. Getting horses in foal is HARD. Just because a mare was covered doesn't even come close to meaning she is pregnant. I would definatly have her checked out to make sure. I have several mares that always have a bad and you can always get milk from them. Don't sit around worrying and waiting. Have a vet come check her out.
 

Beverly Jackson
Yearling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 54
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer,
First of all, I have had her checked 4 times. As of late 2 weeks ago. I'm not a stupid person and I know she is pregnant. I have been around horses all my life, although this is the first one that is mine that I will get to see foal. I have seen many others foal. So please don't insult me that I don't even know if she is pregnant. She is my baby and I would never "assume". She is bred to a 4 time world champion race horse "Investing Wisely" so it would have been rather dumb to not have her checked. I was rather offended by your post as it seems like just because she is having a prolonged pregnancy, you assume I don't take care of my horses. I have 34 mares and 2 studs myself. I know the difference between a pregnant horse and one who is not. This is the first mare I have bred myself as I don't breed my horses to just anything. So save your comments. It's gonna be really sad if something is not right and happens beyond my control and you did nothing to relieve some of the stress this is causing me, you'd rather chalk it up to I don't know my horse is pregnant. Save it for someone else please. Thanks for your input, but next time, dont assume that people are so dumb. I love my horses like they are my children and take better care of them than myself. Don't be so quick to put someone down like we are retarded. I'm sorry if this is harsh, but I was very hurt and offended by what you said. Do you know when your horse is pregnant??? Do you take your kids to the doctor???? Then ok, of course she has seen a vet and another thing, next time read the entire thread before you start making assumptions. I think from now on I will relinquish this and not come back. I'll have this baby without the negativity you give.
 

Beverly Jackson
Yearling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 55
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To all those who have stood by me through this time, thank you. As for me, the few negative posts really bring me down further than I am in worry and anticipation. I thank you for all of your intelligent comments and all the help you have given. As for me, I'm going through enough to have get on here and see someone telling me to get her checked. She has been checked and I'm not retarded. I've decided to leave this site as those comments have done nothing but aggravate my situation. Happy foaling to all. My sincere apologies if I am a little upset.
 

Emily West
Weanling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 40
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, Beverly please don't leave. I am sure there are many people on here just like me who want to support you to the very end and can't wait to hear when the foal comes. Please reconsider.
Emily
 

Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 542
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

***whoa' there Beverly****

I'm coming in at the tail end of this...so just hear me out ok?

No matter if this is your 100th foal or a 1st foal, the concern for the welfare of mare/baby is the same.
Your concern resonates in your post. I don't know if I (or anyone else) can calm your fears....goodness knows I am a MESS by 321 days, much less the duration you are having to withstand.

Perhaps, in your situation, it would be a good idea to ask your vet if there is anything he/she can do to confirm the health of the foal. Uncertain about this, but have seen in the past where they have done trans-abdominal (or maybe rectal) ultrasounds to verify heartbeat, placental thickness, etc. This is only a suggestion...
I have had good success using the water hardness strips that also have the PH value on them. You can get them at any Lowes or Home Depot where the pool supplies are. Some find them a waste, but after a few years of tracking the PH values of the mammary secretions....it's helped give me a window as to when the mare is getting closer to foaling.
On a good note, this year does seem to be one where lots of mares have gone longer. The ones I have seen have done just fine, but do think that the owners have burned holes in their stomachs worrying :-).

By coincidence, I did notice that you are in my neck of the woods! Who'da thought? Magnolia is a hop-skip away from me.

It is not uncommon for mares DEEP in foal to exhibit flirty behavior towards a stallion. Do allow her to have a distance from him. His prescence on the property will not increase the duration of her gestation.

There are not many board certified repro specialists in our area, but I do have one that I currently utilize. On Friday, they are coming out to recheck my mare and I will pick the brain to see if I can get any suggestions for you. It may be of no help, but it can't hurt right? I will get back with you.

I am sorry that you have been offended, and will preemptively apologize for others. To be honest, it was not necessary to come out with "guns loaded". But, even well intentioned words, when not placed carefully, can be very hard to decipher intent and tone. Goodness knows, that I have been whip-lashed myself (imagine that..:-) )when I meant no harm.

It is going to be a nice weekend here for you and I. The weather is forcasted to be stellar. Tell that mare to "knock it off!!" and have that foal!
 

Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 543
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly,
Just read over some of your past posts...
You have a CAM!!
Leave the lights on or put up one of the clamp lights in the corner of the stall. The lights bother us more than the mares. This way, you can keep an eye on her w/out disturbing her. No, she may not be used to it....but it's not going to make any TRUE effect on when/if she foals.
But, it will alleviate some of your anxiety and need to flush her out with a flash light.
Can you post some updated pics of her (side view, hip view, udder)?
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOW.. I am new to this site.. what a way to begin... Who could imagine there could be such drama in a chat room about pregnang mares. Jennifer may have been a little harsh but Beverly was just as harsh and Heather you are GREAT. I was just wanting to ask what kind of signs should I look for in my 332 day maiden mare. She is driving me absolutely CRAZY. bag is filling up and you can see it from the back when she walks. She her attitude is real crummy. Beverly take a chill pill I think this is supposed to be a friendly information exchanging site.
 

Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 545
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alison,

It is not common for there to be "drama" in this chat room. Others yes, but I think I speak for all when I say...this is a great place to learn and want to help one another.

Sometimes words can get crossed and/or misconstrued when sent through a computer. The best we can do is to moderate OURSELVES....and remember our audience.

Since you are in a similar boat (as in foal watch), you can probably empathize with Beverly and her worry.
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh yes I do. I am a nervous wreck regarding my mare. Especially since she is a maiden and I relly do not know what I am looking for. Vet says just hang in there, this is gettin really difficulet to do. I am so tired. and I think I am driving my family CRAZY. She is my sweet girl but lately she has turned into my ugky girl. One minute wants me to love on her and the nest minute is pushing me away. Any advice would be GREAT.
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 299
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, come back! I've been following your odyssey the whole time and want to make sure all's okay! You're on about day 370 now, right? Some have gone longer, so there's no reason to believe that you won't be blessed soon with a healthy foal. (See the Mary Ann post below; I think her mare went over 370 days as well...) Sometimes newcomers to a discussion don't know the whole story (or don't bother reading it) before posting.

(Message edited by editorlady on April 19, 2007)
 

E Watkins
Yearling
Username: Ev_watkins

Post Number: 64
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOW- what a saga..
Heather- kuddos to you for your kind words to Beverly. While I understand her insult at the previous post, I rather thought her words were somewhat harsh as well.. all I can say is "peace".. this is supposed to be a joyous time for we equine lovers to share and while it's often fraught with worry and concern, mostly it's a time to celebrate when those wonderful babies arrive after such a LONG period of waiting and anticipation. What ever happened to mother nature taking her course?? However do the wild horses manage I wonder? Now in my mothers' house, Beverly and Emily woudl have had a smack on the nether regions and the admonishion to "play nicely". Ya'll kiss and make up and respect each others opinions, I don't think anyone here is out to be mean or condescending.. sometimes it's hard to equate the tone of a written message.. Bev, that mare will foal when she's ready and hopefully you'll have a nice healthy baby.. just hang in there.. Good luck. Ev
 

Colleen Beck
Breeding Stock
Username: Gypsycreations

Post Number: 134
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly, please don't leave. You are under a lot of pressure with all the prolonged worrying so I understand your response. I really don't think Jennifer was calling you stupid in her heart of hearts, it just came out that way. If you can't stand the day to day drama, please at least keep us updated on Betsy and definitely let us know when that blessed baby arrives. I know its hard not to worry and she is on the far edge of normal now, but she isn't out-of-the-park abnormal. Take a deep breath and try to relax. It WILL happen sooner than later now Blessings and Hugs. Colleen
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 31
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly sweetie, I really think the stress is getting too you a bit. Are you snapping at your family like this? I think you need to look at the situation and calm down a bit. You are going to give yourself a heart attack.

My post was in DIRECT RESPONSE to this that you said just three posts above mine.


"This has been an absolute roller coaster ride for me. I have lost all sense of what is really supposed to be happening....Starting to wonder if I'm imagining this entire pregnancy and all the signs of impending labor."

Now, I said I didn't read the whole thread...but THAT statment implies that you HAVE NOT had the mare checked and are just looking at signs. I don't know what else you could think: Starting to wonder if I'm imagining this entire pregnancy and all the signs of impending labor."
could mean?

Really, you need to get some sleep or you are going to be snapping at your family too. Sorry, didn't mean to insult you...I in fact see NOTHING insulting in my post, only concern that you are going through a ton of stress for nothing. I am glad that is not the case. But I don't know you. I am supposed to assume that a person that is on a horse forum asking 1000 basic questions knows something about breeding. I think that is unfair...A lot of the things you said previously indicated you have very little experiance in breeding/foaling so I was concerned for you...I did not call you names but you did.

People come to this forum all the time not knowing that you need to have a mare checked throughout the pregnancy to confirm it is still in foal. There are many people that come here that do not know that just because a mare is covered that it is in foal. They do not know the complications of breeding horses that do not exist in other species. And your post insulted the heck out of them. I did not insult people that do not know these things, call them stupid, I offered knowledge to get them through the situation. You implied that people that are not sure if their horse is in late term pregnancy are: Stupid, dump, retarded, and neglectful to use some of YOUR words. If you look at this forum for just a minute how many HUNDREDS of people do you see in that exact situation? And you were very rude to them.

I don't know where you got that I don't think you take care of your horses? That was never stated or implied in any way and is troubling.

I believe I am now more concerned for you then
before.

Then you stated: "It's gonna be really sad if something is not right and happens beyond my control and you did nothing to relieve some of the stress this is causing me, you'd rather chalk it up to I don't know my horse is pregnant."
I believe what would be sad is if people on this forum simply offered support and encouragement and no valid advice assuming that you are doing everything perfectly only to find that you WEREN'T and a tragedy happened. This is NOT a support forum. It is not supposed to me social. There is a catagory just for support and well-wishes and you DID NOT post in it. You posted in a catagory that is for information exchange not pats on the back. Anyway, it's much better to offer un-needed advice then to NOT offer much needed advise. It didn't hurt you, you are a grown person. Get over it. If you know the mare is in foal and she has been checked GREAT. Ignore the post. OR reply that she has been checked (did it ever occur to you that WE may be worried after watching this thread forever and would like the reassurance?) Earlier this year I had a friend on foal watch for a month, finally had the vet out. While he was there they were talking about her muscles looking relaxed, her bag filling, and seeing the foal movement in her flank....then he palpated her OPEN. She had just lost her other broodmare while foaling and it was heartbreaking. AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME to smart intelligent people that love their animals (not only retarded people). And this mare had even been checked as late as 5 months.
Try to smile today }
Good luck with your foal. I have been clicking on this thread everytime I come hoping that you will finally post pictures of that new foal. I will continue to check and hope that you decide to share it. I think the forum is very nervous along with you and it would be very disappointing no to know. I for one will keep checking hoping for a positive update. I, and the others here have been clicking in this thread daily waiting to hear the good news. }

For what it is worth...I am sorry.
 

E Watkins
Yearling
Username: Ev_watkins

Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer- Nicely done. Hopefully, Beverly will decide to join in again and not take things quite so personally. I know I was worried sick last year when we had mares foaling and strangles going on in the barn at the same time. What a mess. We made it thru though, hopefully Beverly will make it thru her trial by fire as well and realize no ill intent was meant by your post. As I said previously, I've been on both ends of emails/posts that were not received as they were intended. Tone is something that is hard to inject into written text. (or is sometimes perceived differently than what is intended).
 

Heather Kutyba
Breeding Stock
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 547
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ev,

Thank you. Yes, yes, and yes.

There were errors on both sides of the fence.
Lets hope the remainder of this conversation begins and ends with "my apologies".

Alison,
We are all here to help one another. Please feel free to join in and it's great to have you here. The forum has lots of people, ranging from rank beginners to long-in-the-tooth seasoned breeding professionals. There is always something to learn!

So, as Ev so eloquently said:

PEACE folks! Let's keep it clean and enjoyable for everyone.
Best to all,
Heather
 

E Watkins
Yearling
Username: Ev_watkins

Post Number: 74
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heather- I had to laugh, your "long in the tooth comment made me look at my "title" on here.. I'm a yearling.. ( thanks to taking a long break from posting and forgetting my password ) Much better than "the old gray mare"..
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes I guess I just came in on a bad note.I found this site out of desperation as I was needing to hear what to expect out of this maiden mare I am waiting on. I guess there is nothing to do but wait it out with her. It is just driving me insane, though, I must admit reading all the above has made me feel a little more at ease and not quite so insane as I read of others in my smae situation and thos who have been waiting even longer. Good luck to all.
 

E Watkins
Yearling
Username: Ev_watkins

Post Number: 75
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alison- welcome, there's tons of information and experience here to be drawn upon..and all of us have to deal with the "unknown" from time to time, the mares just aren't always by the book. (maybe not all of them read the "how to" manual??) But you sure can get a lot of relief from worry about their actions and such here.. so enjoy. Ev
 

Onvetta Herrin
Nursing Foal
Username: Onvetta

Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Allison. I just discovered this posting accidently a few days ago myself, in a desperate attempt to get some (any) help. At 4am my maiden mare had a colt at 335 days, absolutely PERFECT!!! No bag , no milk, no way-no how. Her milk came on, baby is great, and my other mare should foal tonight. If she isn't lying between her teeth. There is what is called "normal" , and there are lots of books on foaling. My mares haven't read any of the books, and laugh at nornal. Look for all the signs you have and will read on this posting, some very savy folks on here. Also, pay attention to any odd or unusal behavior in your mare. You know her, and follow your gut instincts if you feel something is wrong. Good luck.
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you very much for all you "talking to me" it has calmed down alot. She is being such a little BRAT toward me. She is usually my best friend, I can rub her, love on her and she does nothing, but, within the last couple of days he is being so nasty, cannot even dare attempt to try to get milk out of her bag without her trying to kick my teeth in. So unlike her and almost hurts my feelings . I will just hang back and do my best to watch her from afar. Her milk bag is really filling up and the teats are starting to point downward instead of towards each other. Sure hope she goes back to her lovable self once the foal is here. I really miss her.. LOL
 

Mary Ann
Nursing Foal
Username: Newbie

Post Number: 16
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare just foaled on Monday at 376 days. Baby was fine and from what I've heard pregancies are lasting longer this year for some reason. Global warming...who knows?? My mare did get more standoffish the last week or two. She's still not as friendly as she was but baby's only 4 days old. I figure they'll get back to normal once baby is a month or so along. As for us humans relaxing is hard to do right now but it's good if you can.

Thought I'd include a cute picture of my new boy to encourage those who are still waiting.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u312/newbie_38/DSC00590.jpg

Isn't he cute and the poor little guy still has no name. We have a baby Cisco and my husband is insisting on Pancho...I just don't think so!}
 

Hannah MacDonald
Breeding Stock
Username: Hannah

Post Number: 109
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow what an exciting few days. As a newbie last year breeding my first foal, I was offered nothing but support and guidance from people who had gone through this a hundred times (and more) and every ounce of information was beneficial. EVen if it was someting unlrelated I felt as if I had learned something so that if ever it happened to me, one day I would use it to help my mare and foal. The last thing anyone wants is to lose either your mare or her newborn.

I echo the above comments, get your camera on your mare especially if she is feeling a little unsociable right now and watch her that way. She does love you and will always love you, just she doesnt really know what is going on right now and probably needs a little time. With your camera on you are there for her when she needs you - which is what we, as horse, owners do for them.

They cost us lots of money, we love them more than people can imagine, and then put ourselves through hell because normally the one mare who tugged on your heart strings enough, you then want a foal so that a part of her lives on.


Forgot to say before, have you any pics of her Beverly?

(Message edited by hannah on April 20, 2007)
 

Sandy Smith
Yearling
Username: Sandystone

Post Number: 71
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mary Ann - your little guy sure is cute! He's all legs!

Warm welcomes to Alison and Onvetta. You guys will love this site.

Beverly - I wish you would reconsider and come back to the site. I had followed your saga and would really like to know when your baby gets here.

To everyone who has a foal - CONGRATULATIONS!
To everyone still waiting - HANG IN THERE!

I've had 1, still waiting on 1........gotta love those blessed broodmares, maiden or not!
 

E Watkins
Yearling
Username: Ev_watkins

Post Number: 82
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Onvettta- ditto what you said, the mares DON'T read the books, that's for certain. I should have paid more attention to Sasha last night, I did notice a change in her udder and thought that we were getting closer (expected it this weekend) apparently I should have checked again during the night..lol. She finished getting ready and did it all on her own. I had better keep a close eye on my other mare, they were bred nearly the exact same dates and although her milk just does not look like she's ready, as you have attested, that's not a requirement to deliver the foal! Ev
 

Onvetta Herrin
Nursing Foal
Username: Onvetta

Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi folks. Still only one baby. Estascy is not giving up on torturing me, and Wendy is a BEAR over her colt!Put my friend Jenny over an 8 foot stall divider to escape her teeth. She dosen't mind anything I want to do' but nobody else can get near him.
Today Estascy is acting moppy and way too calm and quiet, she is usually the more hyper of the two. Since this is a change , I'm hoping things are progressing.
EV, if there is a horse out there that hasn't read a book on what is normal or how to get a certain responce, it has found its way to my barn! When I decided to make horses a major part of my life instead of a small part, I thought I knew quite a bit- WRONG! With 10 horses, I have 10 different personalities. Whether its riding, competing, or foaling- I have learned to expect the unexpected.
 

E Watkins
Yearling
Username: Ev_watkins

Post Number: 84
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Onvetta- and that acknowledgement makes you a very WISE horsewoman! Ev
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 26
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Everyone! i have decided i am not going to breed my mare or any of the other mares on this property again! i have been under way too much stress lately and i can not handle it!..

the depression hits me hard at times and then at other times it is not so bad! i have a picture of her unfinished grave i would like to share with everyone!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture070.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture069.jpg

and i have a good picture of her during daylight hours when she was finally dry!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/arroblake9212/Picture1888.jpg

I Would like to thank everyone for the great support that was given!..i cant thank you enough..

im sorry for the nature of these photo's but please understand..they are the best i could get

Thanks Everyone!..And Please keep baby in your prayers!

Justin
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 27
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she was buried under a apple tree and a large rose bush! she now has a rosebush planted at the front and back of her!..she will have a angel standing over a rock that says

"if tears could build a stareway and memories a lane i would walk rite up to heaven and bring you home again"
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 304
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

May she rest in peace, Justin. She couldn't have had a more caring person than you looking over her.
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin, I am so sorry for your loss but your words were beautiful as was she. Again, I am so sorry for your loss.
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 296
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin I too am so sorry for your loss. The grave site you chose is beautiful and befitting of such a pretty little girl. I will keep you in my prayers.
 

Leia
Yearling
Username: Leia

Post Number: 76
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin ~ just remember you will meet her again someday!! I know that doesn't lessen the pain now...but someday you will get to stroke her silky coat and watch her play with all the horses we have all lost but never forgotten; all of them happy little horsey angels! My prayers are with you and your mare.
 

Justin Blake
Weanling
Username: Arroblake9212

Post Number: 28
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lori,Alison,Dianne And Leia Thanks so much for the kind words!..i wish there were more people like all of you that understand what i am going through!
 

kris lancaster
Neonate
Username: Krisser

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys I am new to the site- I have been addicted and like a sponge for information. I am a newbie and so is my mare she is a 7 year old connemara who has shown signs of first stage labor for quite a while now, until last night- I was convinced her water was going to break and I did not want to miss a thing- I have a foal cam so I was not out in the barn. I went out there around 2:30 am and she was still rubbing her tail and butt, tail was all over the place like a elephant- yawning and itching her face and legs biting- you name it. Then she would just fall asleep . Then it would start up again!! This went on all night until 6 am(I slept in the barn :-)) well can't quite call it sleep!! Then she completely stopped and is now turned out in the small pasture I have UGH!!! LOL maybe my presence made this happen?

I did a calcium test last night at 7pm it went to 5 red squares right away. The problem is that her utter is so hard and she has 3 melonomas and it is hard to get anything from her. I have managedto get some, at first it was clear and then yellow and not yellow and very sticky but I only was able to get 1cc of it. I estimated the distilled water solution so the ratio would be the same as if I had 6cc of milk. I just inserted the strip and turned the tube sideways and it went to 5 red right away. I really thought she would go last night-- ugh I was wrong and no sleep on top of it - Does anyone know how sensitive those calcium tests are and if I did not have the whole amount of milk, maybe it gave me a false reading??? I need to sleep!! HAHAHAHA I have been watching her all day. She is one of those mares who is super sweet will let me do anything to her- she does not care - Thanks so much guys I have a feeling I am going to up all night and on this forum!! Good luck everyone!!!!
 

kris lancaster
Neonate
Username: Krisser

Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

okay I guess I should tell you that she is 333 days today, as she was artificially inseminated only once on May 23,2006 also I had a typo on the amount of milk I tested it was not 1 cc but .1 cc just a small amount. Thanks
 

Colleen Beck
Breeding Stock
Username: Gypsycreations

Post Number: 143
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds like she is way ready! It's nice that your mare is so tolerant. I'm sure she'll be a great mommy. Can't tell you anything about the calcium test, I usually just go by the color and the viscosity. Opaque and sticky is what we're looking for. Keep us posted and healthy happy foaling wishes.
 

kris lancaster
Neonate
Username: Krisser

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man I hope you are right.As soon as I brought her in tonight she was very anxious and was more interested in me than her food??? Once I left she started to eat and has been crossing her hind legs and her tail is out to the side- this is something new- but that is really the only thing she has been doing, Thanks god for foal cams!!!!She normally poops in one corner and pees in the other and the last few days it is just random all over her stall!!she never pees in more than one place and now UGH- so much more fun to clean!!! LOL I still am not able to get a lot of milk from her though but what I can is very sticky. Gotta love it she is gonna keep me guessing.I know I wont sleep well tonight , Any one else out there still waiting patiently???
 

Emily West
Weanling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 44
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kris,
My sister and I are still waiting for our mare to foal so your not alone in your waiting. She is on day 327 today.
Maybe just maybe you all ready have a little foal after last night. (:
 

kris lancaster
Neonate
Username: Krisser

Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish- she was real quite last night actually layed down for the majority of the night which she has never really done and actually slept a lot- I wonder if that means anything???? But no baby- So I actaully got some sleep last night so I am sorta recharged!!!! She has started some weird things as of last night and this morning though crossing her hind legs- like she is trying to keep that baby in!! HAHAHAHA now she has the whole head bobbing thing and the constant yawn and chewing but nothing in her mouth to chew- very strange??? she is such a drama queen!! LOL!! Gotta love her!!Emily keep us posted on your mares progress is she showing signs of anything yet???Is she a maiden? Are you sleeping?? Thank god for energy drinks!!!
 

Onvetta Herrin
Nursing Foal
Username: Onvetta

Post Number: 14
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have my other colt! A bay, born at 4:10 am Saturday. Mare had quite a time after foaling, couldn't expel placenta. 7 hours later it was removed manually. she is doing fine now. My foals have come at 335 & 328 days. both are big and healthy. Good luck to all of you, I will keep checking post, as I really enjoy the info and frindship I see here.
 

Emily West
Weanling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 47
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kris,
Sort of, her udder started filling out a couple weeks ago and her vulva is getting stretched and relaxed. As of this morning she does not appear to be as round and pregnant looking and the fluid changed from honey colored and sticky to just clear and sticky.
We have not started checking her in the middle of the night yet but probably will have to soon. She had her first foal two years ago at 1:00 in the morning. We missed the foaling but were there right as he was standing for the first time.
 

kris lancaster
Neonate
Username: Krisser

Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Emily,
Wow sounds familiar- my hay guy just came and said my mare did not look as round(he is a cattle farmer) He was worried she aborted!!! I just told him the baby is shifting and her belly has dropped- It was quite the conversation!!! LOL

My mare has been doing the same thing with her fluids- I did not know they could go back and forth with the colors- I was a little worried. Sounds like your mare is progressing and may go soon. Can you expel a lot of fluid from her udder yet??? I can not her udder is there and getting bigger slowly but still really hard- I may not have the magic touch(I am a firstie)I really want to test her milk- I have a testing kit and am dying to know!!!!I was only able to get 1/6th of the amount needed to test and I did the test anyway just changed the mixture amount and I got 5 out of 5 squares instantly!! I think -well I know I did it worng becasue this was Friday!!! I hear some of these tests don't work on some mares- like we are all made up differerntly or something like that! My friend who breeds minis swares by them. I just don't know.

You are so lucky you have your sister there with you. My friend who breeds is 25 minutes away and I know I can call her but I am scared if something goes wrong and she is not here- I will go crazy!

Oh yeah anyone out there ever hear that connemaras in their first pregnancy tend to go 12 months?? This connemara pony came from Ireland and the breeder told me that and all of his mares who are at my sisters farm have done that. UGh I will go nuts if that is the case??I just think it is a case to case thing but am curious to know if anyone has heard that about that breed or any other breed? But he also covers them live.So he may not know if they caught the first time.????

Emily do you have any pics to share of your mare??
 

Lynn Ison
Breeding Stock
Username: Lynndi

Post Number: 325
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OH Emily ! Clear and sticky is GOOD! From what I read around here that's what we are looking for !! I bet you go tonight! Good luck and hugzzzzzz!
 

Lynn Ison
Breeding Stock
Username: Lynndi

Post Number: 326
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the record to all....lack of sleep makes me cranky too !! LOL. I have been snapping at everybody at my house!!!! Thank God they know me and love me.
HANG IN THERE everybody!!

Kris- I am a firstie too and beginning to wonder if I am missing the "magic touch" as well. My mare's udder is big and hard and I can't get a drop out of it. She was cranky with me the last 4 days, but today she is like puddy in my hands..I was beginning to take my horse's behavior towards me personally even!! hahahaha... That's the lack of sleep playing tricks on me though...LOL Of course she still loves me- she just HUGE and uncomfortable. If the change in behavior has anything to do with time of birth...maybe we have a chance tonight. She was fine with getting her feet picked and everything today. I just went out to see her a little while ago and she came straight to me , knickering all the way. Of course I couldn't resist her and hugged her and loved her up!
She has been messing up her stall too! Usually very neat and tidy- poops and pees in the corner......NOW she has been peeing right in the middle where she has made her "nest". And I am finding poop piles in random spots!! I got dirt floors.
 

kris lancaster
Neonate
Username: Krisser

Post Number: 7
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn,
I am glad to know your mare is doing just what mine is doing!!! I thought I was kinda seeing things that were not really there! I did not know that the milk would go from yellow to clear. I was told it was clear then yellow then yellow and sticky then opaque than white. I thought we were going backwards!! LOL And as far as the messy stall goes I guess I was just lucky for a long long time and this is her way of paying me back for letting her get pregnant!!! HAHAH

I am going to try again to get some fluid tonight I had some luck warming her up with a warm washcloth and massaging it but I was not able to get enough milk to test. If I could she would certainlyy let me- she so far has been great about it.

My mare "Smokey" when she is turned out even lets me try to get milk- she is a weirdo. She has been acting kinda out out though- the last few days she will just be standing there and all of a sudden almost buck and start running then stop and just stand there breathing hard- poor thing- what could taht foal possibly be doing???

I just hope she foals before I have to go back to work Wednesday but I need to be realistic she is only 334 days today- I feel like an over anxious mother.

Glad to know I am not the only one who is punchy at home- My husband is pretty good but who know for how much longer- he was hoping she would go last night.
Do you have any pics of your mare??? Like udder pics or anything like that?? I may take some tonight and post, just to see what you think??

Has anyone had there mare start crossing there hind legs and stand there for what seems like an eternity with their tail up and out?? She started that last night a long with head bobbing and chewing air?? Very odd???

Onvetta, congrats on your colt- would love to see some pics!!!
 

Emily West
Weanling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 50
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh,
That would be nice, Lynn. I think with her first foal she went from yellow to white and foaled within a few hours.

Kris,
Yea, I am very thankful that I can feel the foal plenty.
Hope all goes well with your mare and that there will be a foal soon.
 

Emily West
Yearling
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 51
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh Kris, under Ready and Waiting Foal Watch there is a topic called Another Countdown. Her pictures and the stud picture are under there. If you can't find them I can repost them here.
 

Beverly Jackson
Yearling
Username: Beverlyrichard

Post Number: 56
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer
I have to respond to your not so smart reply. Maybe I was a bit harsh, you deserved it. You need to get in your place and realize that people who are here are here for a reason. You have spoiled that reason for me. FYI, my husband is and has been a horsebreeder for years. So it was suggested that get on here to try and learn myself since I too love horses, just have never been involved directly in the foalling process. So all your trying to make me look I've put everybody here down is crap and they know it. This thread is full of info that I took appreciatively. So you don't know me so if I were you, I'd stick to what you know and if you know so much, why are you here asking questions. Just a few things for you to think about. These people here have been helping me through and I don't need you or your negative comments. Start your own thread, no no need. I'm finished. Too bad for you had to screw it up for all of us......
 

Lynn Ison
Breeding Stock
Username: Lynndi

Post Number: 328
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can the person who opened this thread , close it? Just a suggestion.
We all need POSITIVE foaling vibes!
 

Leia
Yearling
Username: Leia

Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer.... You didn't ruin it for everyone, just so you know. But maybe Lynn is right, we all need to just move on and start a new thread and let Beverly be mad.

Also... Beverly I am sorry you are so upset over this whole deal, but I think your overreacting a little bit and I wish you could just take the good advice with the not so good advice (or welcome advice) and let us all learn about this together and be a little forgiving of other people! You can't always be sure of a "tone" of a text post and maybe its a good idea to assume the best of people and their intentions instead of assuming that she is being condesending or accusing you of being not a good horse onwer. If anyone is on here looking for more information, then obiviously we all love our critters and want what is best for them. Can't we all just get along and agree to disagree sometimes?
 

Jennifer Graef
Weanling
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 32
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beverly what in the WORLD do you see in my first post that was insulting or rude to deserve the way you are acting? There are hundreds and hundreds of people that come here and have no idea if their mare is even pregnant. They pick them up at auction of what-not and told they were bred and have no clue. It happens every day. That may not be you. I didn't ever say it was. Never. I never said hey stupid! your mare is probably not even pregnant.

I said, in case you were one of the HUNDREDS that come here that are not prepared like you and do not have horseman husbands, that there is a lot to breeding a horse and they don't concieve and they abort all the time. It happens. I simply stated that if you haven't checked you should.

You said "I think this pregnancy may be in my head" I thought that was an indication that you had not confirmed that indeed the pregnancy was real. What do you want from me? Am I supposed to find out what every person's situation is in full down to who their husband is before offerign advice that would be VERY valid to many poeple that end up on this forum?

I am sorry to the rest of you, really. I didn't want this to happen in any way. You guys must also see the people that come here totally unprepared and need help and that my advice is often vaild. I didn't mean to start something and I have no idea where this anger is coming from. I hope that Beverly can see that there is no reason to react like this, and if my advice was simply not applicable to her then she can move on.
I know how stressful horses are and so I know what she is going through and I truly hope that exploding on here helps her to relieve it.

Beverly, I am sorry. I was trying to help. It was none of my business apparently. I don't mean to upset you or make anything harder for you. Again, I DON'T know you and I didn't feel I could assume anything about you. You are a screen name on a forum to me. You had a problem. In the past I have talked to many people on forums who have not been as prepared as you or had a vet follow a pregnancy like you did. I am SO glad that you did things right and have knowledgable help. There are many screen names that I have talked to that didn't. How am I supposed to know that one screen name is different from another without asking? How was I supposed to know?

Again, sorry. I hope it is a happy ending.
 

Onvetta Herrin
Nursing Foal
Username: Onvetta

Post Number: 15
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer, I wish you had given me advice a year ago. I had a mare bred, ultrasound to confirm, then on foal rations at 5 months.She gained weight, got a belly, etc... She must have absorbed or lost it very early on, and it arrestted her cycles. The belly was from the extra feed and hay she was getting. Imagine my disappointment at the 320 day check to hear there was no foal. And I've spent most of my life around horses. I would have bet she was in foal,and lost the bet! So sorry you weren't here to sound off to me, it sure would have saved me a big disappointment!And a bit of money on my feed bill!
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good Morning everyone.. I know it is early but just sent hubby off to work. Still no foal. I am so tired. Her bag is full now, or at least what I would call full, her teats are pointing down and she is still being sooo cranky. She to is scratching her face ALOT and biting at her very swoll belly. Cannot tell you to much about her vulva other than it is very very swollen compared to last week. I guess all I can do is sit back and wait although this is really tiring me out. If you all decide to post a new thread will you please let everyone else in here know as I DO VALUE all the responses and advice that I have been given on this site and would hate for you all to move and leave me behind , Thank you soo much
 

Dianne Edwards
Breeding Stock
Username: Mamaedwards

Post Number: 299
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alison...When I get on the board everyday, at the top right corner of the header it says check new messages, click on that and it shows all the new post in every topic since last time you were on. That way you never get left behind!! Good luck with you foaling, it can be so tiring watching and waiting. My baby Monty is one month old and I am still watching just not waiting anymore.
 

Alison Croft
Neonate
Username: Alisoncroft

Post Number: 7
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So you are telling me just like my kids, you never stop worrying and wondering and watching.. LOL. Great, just what I needed another one. No, I am really excited about this. I work from home and am finding it very difficult to concentrate on work and not my baby and her baby outside. Maybe they should offer us maternity leave for the expectancy of our mares LOL. I will keep looking for the new thread as I definitely do not want to be left behind. Thank You so much. Gotta go ck on her again . Hopefully she will end this for both of us soon.
 

Lynn Ison
Breeding Stock
Username: Lynndi

Post Number: 339
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL Alison- I feel your anticipation! Good Luck!!!!



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